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[Q] Those who are now on KitKat (TouchWiz) any regrets?

It's been eating at me since ROMs started coming out for KitKat whether I should upgrade to it or not. I'm quite happy with my 4.3 Custom Roms and CM11 Roms. The only thing I dont like about the CM11 is the bad sound and the obvious lack of note 3 specific features such as one handed mode and S-Pen and S-Note.
I can't get it out of my head and I would like to hear some feedback for people who already upgraded to Samsung's KitKat.
What are the main issues with most roms right now? Any regrets being in the new bootloader? Worth it?
Should I be a bit more patient and give DEVS more time to master 4.4?
For those that don't know when you upgrade to the new bootloader to try and install KitKat roms you cannot revert to the previous one so hence cannot flash 4.3 roms or AOSP roms.
(AFAIK only the Mexican Note 3 or Canadian I think have a way to go back or install 4.3 roms after going to the new bootleader)

Hakired said:
It's been eating at me since ROMs started coming out for KitKat whether I should upgrade to it or not. I'm quite happy with my 4.3 Custom Roms and CM11 Roms. The only thing I dont like about the CM11 is the bad sound and the obvious lack of note 3 specific features such as one handed mode and S-Pen and S-Note.
I can't get it out of my head and I would like to hear some feedback for people who already upgraded to Samsung's KitKat.
What are the main issues with most roms right now? Any regrets being in the new bootloader? Worth it?
Should I be a bit more patient and give DEVS more time to master 4.4?
For those that don't know when you upgrade to the new bootloader to try and install KitKat roms you cannot revert to the previous one so hence cannot flash 4.3 roms or AOSP roms.
(AFAIK only the Mexican Note 3 or Canadian I think have a way to go back or install 4.3 roms after going to the new bootleader)
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I don't know what others are experiencing at the moment - but I recently flashed Kit Kat and the only problem I seem to be having is that the WIFI will periodically disconnect for 5 second intervals about 10 times an hour. Other than that nothing else is a problem
I do really enjoy the new galaxy s voice. But mind you - I havent installed a custom rom yet

satisfied with kitkat.. no regret
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i heard it brakes compatibility with call recording software.
4.3 is stable enough for my liking.

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Call recording doesn't work and the camera is worse, I have flickering lines on my camera which I never had. But the phone is super fast and the battery is a great improvement. I wouldn't say you need to be on kit Kat if you are happy on 4.3....but the Poland firmware is obviously a test firmware.... So when all regions get it... Should be much better.
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hurdlejade said:
i heard it brakes compatibility with call recording software.
4.3 is stable enough for my liking.
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works fine for me...
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polish_pat said:
works fine for me...
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Have you tried listening to the recording? It will be just noise
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love the kitkat update but just upset i cant try the latest cm till they fix the bootloader issue

On aosp kitkat I'm running acid audio engine with great results!

I actually love the battery life on Kitkat... I have removed both Note 3's, sporting JB and Kitkat from power at the same time. I've been using the Kitkat phone all day making calls, sms'ing and other various things not to mention the auto updates...
Both phones have the same setup and syncing but the Kitkat phone which is being used has more power than JB phone which has sat on my bed all day long doing what it wants and not being used. It's down to 78% over about 11 hours. The Kiktkat one is at 86% ad has been used all day.
That's brilliant as far as I'm concerned...

alom5 said:
Call recording doesn't work and the camera is worse, I have flickering lines on my camera which I never had. But the phone is super fast and the battery is a great improvement. I wouldn't say you need to be on kit Kat if you are happy on 4.3....but the Poland firmware is obviously a test firmware.... So when all regions get it... Should be much better.
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Thats interesting, you never had flickering before you updated?
Mines been off for repair and is due back today. I dont know what they've done yet but I'd be surprised if software was the problem.
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Apparently the Balitic now has 4.4.2 firmware, according to Sammobile... Its the same build though...

Well I would say the only regret is missing the ability to flash 4.3 ROMs and CM. Otherwise seems smoother and faster. So if you do like the TW features I would suggest upgrading.
Been upgraded for a couple of days know, busting my head around how to revert back to CM but I realized putting CM is not very productive when you think about it. The 4.4 stock ROM is damn fast so the only difference I'm seeing is in RAM Usage (stock ROM using much more ram naturally), but does it really matter on a device with 3GBs of Ram? I've never once been close to hitting that mark.. You do get all the S Pen features and stuff that probably made you buy the device in the first place.
So basically:
TW pluses
no bugs
S Pen and other features
CM pluses
no bloat
more customization options and annoyances fixed that should've been there in the first place.

skibadee said:
Thats interesting, you never had flickering before you updated?
Mines been off for repair and is due back today. I dont know what they've done yet but I'd be surprised if software was the problem.
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I didn't have any flickering before at all. I have flashed a few different roms... And it seems to have gone now... I think ?
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polish_pat said:
works fine for me...
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Who's service do you use and which modem or radio do you have loaded. I have wind in Vancouver which does not use LTE but wonder if a different radio will allow me to use LTE from another carrier ie. say Rogers if I am out of coverage area of Wind. I notice with the stock Samsung software and Wind in Vancouver if I loose signal it sometimes does not automatically log back in even though I am within coverage area. My only complaint so far.

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Who's service do you use and which modem or radio do you have loaded. I have wind in Vancouver which does not use LTE but wonder if a different radio will allow me to use LTE from another carrier ie. say Rogers if I am out of coverage area of Wind. I notice with the stock Samsung software and Wind in Vancouver if I loose signal it sometimes does not automatically log back in even though I am within coverage area. My only complaint so far.
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It turns out it doesn't work. The call record button is there but nothing happens when i press it.
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BajaRom horrible battery life?

I just installed the latest (and last) 4th of July BajaRom and love everything about it, except the battery life. I've only been running it for a couple of days. After only a few hours after all night charging, I'm down to 50%. I went back to the thread to ask for help only to find out its been locked. I've tried to run the Media Battery Drain Fix thingy in the BajaRom settings app, but it force closes for some unknown reason. I'm not sure if this would fix my problem or not. Anybody have any suggestions?

Hi, I'm currently running the BajaROM July 4th, I have no problem and did you do dirty installation it might be causing the problem. It might be one of your app kept wakelock that causing eat battery life.
Have you tried using battery wakelock detector app ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector). It helps diagnostic why your battery life goes crap.
Here my recent screenshot battery life.
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Thanks for the response. I did a clean install. This was my first rom other than bean's, since I used the beans method to come over to the rooted KK. Before that I was on 4.3 rooted running clean rom. I was disappointed to find out that Scott had stopped supporting his work there, but glad to move on to KK and find these new roms.
I did install the app you mentioned. The biggest hog shows to be Google search. I force closed it, but it restarts itself. I would think it needs to run pretty much all the time to function anyway, is it really a huge power consumer, or just runs alot? I used to always run my screen on full brightness, and I could still make it through the day just fine. I've put it on auto now, and it seems to be helping the battery quite a bit. But something must be different. I know that it uses alot of juice, but I've always kept it turned up and not had this problem until now

Hi, I would suggest you take Google search disable via application manager under the settings. It should stop the wakelock.
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Thanks very much for your input! I will give that a try. Does google search work differently on this version? I've always used it before and not had these problems. Its a handy tool, I hate to lose it. But if thats what it takes, its better than a dead battery I suppose

I never use Google search feature but if you hate to lose the feature then leave enable. It is up to you and I'm getting good battery life come out on BajaROM. ?

chrootz said:
I never use Google search feature but if you hate to lose the feature then leave enable. It is up to you and I'm getting good battery life come out on BajaROM. ?
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ok but you have to have a extended battery with those kinds of readings...

Hi... yes I'm using a zero lemon battery 10k mAh. ?
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ok but you have to have a extended battery with those kinds of readings...
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scott_65 said:
I just installed the latest (and last) 4th of July BajaRom and love everything about it, except the battery life. I've only been running it for a couple of days. After only a few hours after all night charging, I'm down to 50%. I went back to the thread to ask for help only to find out its been locked. I've tried to run the Media Battery Drain Fix thingy in the BajaRom settings app, but it force closes for some unknown reason. I'm not sure if this would fix my problem or not. Anybody have any suggestions?
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Did you install on a slot on ss or stock?

ironfisted said:
Did you install on a slot on ss or stock?
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I'm running it on rom slot 1. I used the beans rom with the "built in root" to upgrade to kitkat. So beans is still in the stock slot.
If I can figure out how, I'll post the screenshot of my battery from yesterday. It was 9ish hours. Not sure if that seems good or not, but its WAAAY worse than it used to be. And I've uninstalled google search. And I'm running auto brightness, and its much dimmer. It seems better, but still not what it used to be. Not sure if it matters, but I may have had something set up wrong. I've never uninstalled google search, but when I did, it reset my home screen icons like I had just booted the phone for the first time, resetting hangouts as the default sms app, etc. Wouldn't have thought google search had much to do with that

Interesting side note, I'm using my windows based work computer to type these responses today, running google chrome web browser, and it keeps flagging google as misspelled by spell checker. lol

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How many hours of screen-on time was that? Give us a screenshot when you tap on Screen. Very interested.

I was going to post the screenshot of this, but now I can't find it. I wiped data earlier while tinkering with the phone trying to fix this problem. I still have my pictures on the sd card but I guess it doesn't save the screenshots there? I figured they went into the same folder

scott_65 said:
I'm running it on rom slot 1. I used the beans rom with the "built in root" to upgrade to kitkat. So beans is still in the stock slot.
If I can figure out how, I'll post the screenshot of my battery from yesterday. It was 9ish hours. Not sure if that seems good or not, but its WAAAY worse than it used to be. And I've uninstalled google search. And I'm running auto brightness, and its much dimmer. It seems better, but still not what it used to be. Not sure if it matters, but I may have had something set up wrong. I've never uninstalled google search, but when I did, it reset my home screen icons like I had just booted the phone for the first time, resetting hangouts as the default sms app, etc. Wouldn't have thought google search had much to do with that
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There is your issue all.roms including baja have major issues woth battery life on rom slots run it on stock and you should be golden
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Does that look horrible? This rom has the best battery life!
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JBHawaii said:
Does that look horrible? This rom has the best battery life!
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That looks impossible... and irrelevant. Your sig shows your running Jasmine rom. My problem was with BajaRom

scott_65 said:
That looks impossible... and irrelevant. Your sig shows your running Jasmine rom. My problem was with BajaRom
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I have been running BajaRom since release of version 16, that was my first posts since flashing.... I simply forgot to change my signature!
That looks impossible? Are you suggesting I photoshoped that image?

Don't think the battery stats reset if you plug in and power before it gets really low. Not saying you doctored image, just food for thought.
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I quit.

I f÷׶ing quit.
I've been using this galaxy s2 for months but I quit.
Enough, simply enough.
This thing's battery life is so poor its just unusable. Rebooting the device makes me lose half the battery, and I can't fix it.
I really like this phone for it's performance but except for that it sucks. I've been trying to fix this for months but I cant get it working. No matter which ROM or which kernel, a full battery can't even hold one single evening of reading 9gag. (It survives just a hour, maybe a little more...)
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The drop in the middle is a reboot
I've not used the phone all day, but at the second I touch it it drains from 70% to 10% in not even a hour, only app running was 9gag. It does NEVER survive a school day, no longer than 1/1.5 hour screen on time... The battery in it is brand new, and I even had it replaced twice by Samsung.
I'm sorry all, I'm taking my iphone with me tomorrow. This is no more fun.

You obviosly have media scanner issue, since sdcard is the first one listed. Install BBS for more info, but I'm sure it's media scanner. It can be fixed quite easily though.
About losing half of the battery when you reboot, it's a KK's bug on S2.(That is KK you're using, right ? ) It is annoying, but can be solved. Just plug it into charger, reboot to recovery, and then reboot the recovery itself. Battery percentage should fill up.
And at the end, you should't have rooted and installed a custom ROM(s) if you can't solve a simple problems like this.
With sammy based ROMs, you wouldn't have had those issues, but KK based ROMs are not perfect, so either deal with it, or simply don't use them.

You certainly have a problem with the mediascanner... A clean install would probably fix it...

Nightshadow931 said:
You obviosly have media scanner issue, since sdcard is the first one listed. Install BBS for more info, but I'm sure it's media scanner. It can be fixed quite easily though.
About losing half of the battery when you reboot, it's a KK's bug on S2.(That is KK you're using, right ? ) It is annoying, but can be solved. Just plug it into charger, reboot to recovery, and then reboot the recovery itself. Battery percentage should fill up.
And at the end, you should't have rooted and installed a custom ROM(s) if you can't solve a simple problems like this.
With sammy based ROMs, you wouldn't have had those issues, but KK based ROMs are not perfect, so either deal with it, or simply don't use them.
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Well said man, also I'd like to add, maybe try an app like Greenify, it helps A LOT with battery.
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ahmedelhofy said:
You certainly have a problem with the mediascanner... A clean install would probably fix it...
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Yeah, this bug used to happen to me a lot, a clean install would fix it, also maybe try a new rom? I've been on PACman since 4.2.2 and it's amazing=p
The battery is really good. Maybe try SetCPU as an app? - It's really good

Its some time later now, tried all of it, still no improvement

You have some serious sh*t going on your phone, dude...
I am browsing 9GAG also on my S2, and I can survive 2 Hours straight PLUS listening to music PLUS using Viper4Android (High Quality Sound Applied)... And has an extra 30 minutes to spare!
It's either something badass app running on your Background, or your Battery is just weak...
I have a 2-year-old Stock Battery and I can perform these... So... Yeah... Your setup sucks... Don't blame your s2... :good:
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You have some serious sh*t going on your phone, dude...
I am browsing 9GAG also on my S2, and I can survive 2 Hours straight PLUS listening to music PLUS using Viper4Android (High Quality Sound Applied)... And has an extra 30 minutes to spare!
It's either something badass app running on your Background, or your Battery is just weak...
I have a 2-year-old Stock Battery and I can perform these... So... Yeah... Your setup sucks... Don't blame your s2... :good:
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I can't use 9gag longer than a hour,
Im not done troubleshooting b because I simply can't give up Android.. Nobody can

domini99 said:
I can't use 9gag longer than a hour,
Im not done troubleshooting b because I simply can't give up Android.. Nobody can
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Dude... Just use BetterBatteryStats! Or GSM Battery Monitor to see what Apps are eating your extra battery juices!
I also recommend you to stick to Stock-JB-based ROMs (like NeatROM JB), since it's one of the Custom Stock ROMs that's gonna give you a longer-lasting battery. I recommend NeatROM since it's packed with Apolo Kernel, which also a good kernel for battery!
I use SlimSaber KitKat by fusionjack, since I want features. But if you want to enjoy more Screen-ON time with your S2, better get NeatROM :good:

Tell me what this is:
A simple reboot causes major battery loss.
And its HELL annoying

That's the bug on every KitKat based ROM, I already told you. You haven't actually lost your battery p
ercentage, it's just showing wrong informations.
Just reboot to recovery with your phone plugged into the charger, and then reboot the recovery itself, and your battery should fill up.
And install BetterBatteryStats, let your phone idle during the night, and post the log here, so we can tell you if there's anything specific draining your battery.
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That's the bug on every KitKat based ROM, I already told you. You haven't actually lost your battery p
ercentage, it's just showing wrong informations.
Just reboot to recovery with your phone plugged into the charger, and then reboot the recovery itself, and your battery should fill up.
And install BetterBatteryStats, let your phone idle during the night, and post the log here, so we can tell you if there's anything specific draining your battery.
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Im not running kitkat.
I'm running kitkat themed jelly bean.

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That's the bug on every KitKat based ROM
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Fuel gauge chip problem. I have that bug even on stock rom.

I apologize then, didn't know it happens even on stock ROMs.

It won't even boot up today, it turns on and immediately gives 0% battery and shuts of again, it was fully charged for sure.
I don't have the time right now to try and get it work again. I'll just use my iPhone...

Have you tried checking your battery?
Duplicate or more than 2 years old batteries can give such results
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worthless thread. nobody cares.

Get another device............................................................... ........................................................ ........................................................
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Okay, today my phone completely died. It won't stay on for longer than 10 minutes, after that the screen starts to flicker and the phone shuts off.
I already tried to reflash stock rom, but the problem stays there.
I tried a battery from a friend's S2, that was confirmed working in his phone, my phone simply won' t stay on.

© «Get best battery life & screen touch fix - EUROPEAN 815 only»

For information...
I installed the latest c firmware (d in build prop) with LG flash tool (NOT UPGRADE), a CLEAN install.
wiped(factory reset) before flashing, then in flash tool cleared and made a CLEAN install and factory reset after to be safe (3 resets) .
Now I get very few screen misses, and screen on time 4.5 hours.
Before this I got screen on time maximum 2,5 hours.
Just wanted to let you guys/Girls in on this as it worked perfect for me and my wife.

Thanks for the placebo
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Think I've been around enough to make an accurate judgement, add I'm an recognised developer, I made a hell of a lot of mods and ROM's all developed for two things only battery life with good speed.
You don't have to believe me, what matters is for me, add I got a much better phone.

Hi smaberg,
I was wondering if you are on the Euro 815 version of the G4? Based on your post I'm guessing you are? As a guy who knows what he/she is doing, I was wondering if you could make a flashable zip of the version d firmware? I have a mac and my understanding is you need a pc for the LG flash tool?
Figured I would ask and would greatly appreciate if you could help!!

Do you have the same set of apps installed as you did before the firmware and resets?
I saw better battery results on my second G4 vs my first, some of which I assume was because I installed a lot less apps on the second unit. Which seems reasonable to me.

What device is the OP using?
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I'm on international 815 (Euro).
Still using the exact same apps(didn't use LG backup Restore as it brings back the old draining Barry problem from my old backup).
And NO I can't make an zip, as it would skip some important steps. I mean I can make it, NO problem, but then you will end up with the exact same problem add the old.

hey Smaberg, can you outline the step to flash the new version? I'm using 815, but since i'm residing in Asia, my phone is not seeing any upgrades.

Yeah i also like to get exact steps you made to flash
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lol at 3 factory resets..just makes me want to skip the whole ordeal
it's 2015 and google (+manufacturers) still can't get their **** together even when using the most powerful hardware available
android 5.x has been utter failure imo.

@smaberg, 4.5 hrs screenon is nothing to be specially proud on, yesterday i had 6hrs with 12.5hrs on battery. Device is H815 and firmware is v10c howecer, i got my device on saturday and did just root it this night... we will see how it behaves now.
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Furma said:
lol at 3 factory resets..just makes me want to skip the whole ordeal
it's 2015 and google (+manufacturers) still can't get their **** together even when using the most powerful hardware available
android 5.x has been utter failure imo.
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Me too, but I did one before flash, one with the flash tool as I chose to make a CLEAN install, and the last mostly to be sure.

FadeFx said:
@smaberg, 4.5 hrs screenon is nothing to be specially proud on, yesterday i had 6hrs with 12.5hrs on battery. Device is H815 and firmware is v10c howecer, i got my device on saturday and did just root it this night... we will see how it behaves now.
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I know, but compared to before, with only 2 hours, sometimes even less worth stock a and b I'm pretty ☺ happy, now I'm going to deactivate some junk and see the results, and when I'm done I'll share it.
I'm trying to get the best battery without root, then with root and some of mine scripts and files mod. And we'll see where we stand. In the end maybe an ROM pure made for battery as in the old days. If some still want this? I thought/think people mostly want bling bling and speed...

smaberg said:
I know, but compared to before, with only 2 hours, sometimes even less worth stock a and b I'm pretty ☺ happy, now I'm going to deactivate some junk and see the results, and when I'm done I'll share it.
I'm trying to get the best battery without root, then with root and some of mine scripts and files mod. And we'll see where we stand. In the end maybe an ROM pure made for battery as in the old days. If some still want this? I thought/think people mostly want bling bling and speed...
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Hi,
I would definitely be interested in a battery life based ROM. I find that premium phones have more than enough power you need (if youre not a gamer) so as long as the UI is smooth battery life is more important to me.
Regards,
Ravi

Only used 4% battery and got this screen on time. With everything on.
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Here's mine
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Here's mine
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That's weird, you have the economy saver logo activated but still have 62% of battery life...

DoKaTSuYa said:
That's weird, you have the economy saver logo activated but still have 62% of battery life...
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You can turn it on manually which some people do to prolong battery life rather than just when on low battery.

rav101 said:
You can turn it on manually which some people do to prolong battery life rather than just when on low battery.
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Correct I have it on pretty much all the time. It doesn't effect anything I do on the phone and I get a lot better battery life as you can see combined with the use of App Ops, DisableService, and greenify

drivel2787 said:
Correct I have it on pretty much all the time. It doesn't effect anything I do on the phone and I get a lot better battery life as you can see combined with the use of App Ops, DisableService, and greenify
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I don't use it because of the annoying orange colour change... How did you get rid of that??

New Firmware QC1 released 3/29/2017...Security update only

Just a security update, nothing else to see here.
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Here I was thinking my phone would stop doing soft reboots at least 4x a day while also being able to get LTE/4G in the same locations my Note 2 & 3 did.

poit said:
Just a security update, nothing else to see here.
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http://sihmar.com/software-update-n910pvps4dqc1-galaxy-note-4-download/

Trying to get this installed but it seems that it doesn't play well with TWRP.
Also tried installing it manually in TWRP /cache/fota/update.zip but TWRP said the zip is corrupted...

m5james said:
Here I was thinking my phone would stop doing soft reboots at least 4x a day while also being able to get LTE/4G in the same locations my Note 2 & 3 did.
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I keep seeing people talking about this reboot problem when 99.9% of the time the solution is so simple. Get a new battery.

I wish it was that simple...
DaggettBeaver said:
I keep seeing people talking about this reboot problem when 99.9% of the time the solution is so simple. Get a new battery.
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My Note worked perfectly until this recent update. About 2 days after taking the update, my Note started rebooting, lagging, freezing...basically becoming unusable.
I have 4 batteries, and no matter which battery or whether plugged in or not, this happened.
Wake lock app helped but then, yesterday, the phone wouldnt boot. Nothing but black screen. Would not charge with any battery or any combo of cables and chargers.
By playing around with it, I finally got it to boot into recovery, however, there was no recovery. No matter whether I did power up or down, I got download mode.
The firmware repair using the PIT file got me back in action through Odin. It still took half a day to get the phone stable.
Long story short, it's not always the battery. I think these updates cause issues. The web is full of similar cases. My phone has been completely stock and still this happens. Even going back to Android 5.0 didn't cure the software corruption that this latest update caused me. My phone still won't work without the wake lock app.
I was thinking S8Plus but now I'm thinking no more Samsung.

masbirdies said:
Long story short, it's not always the battery.
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Hey, I DID say 99.9%, not 100%.

DaggettBeaver said:
I keep seeing people talking about this reboot problem when 99.9% of the time the solution is so simple. Get a new battery.
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This has nothing to do with the battery. This issue with the Note 4 rebooting is common and no matter which battery you use, the issue continues. I have numerous reason why that is but they seem to do with the MM updates not playing well with the hardware on the Note 4, especially the most recent updates (last 2 or 3). No matter what people try, the issue continues. The Wake Lock app seems to help a bit but this is no long term solution and honestly I don't think Samsung or Google will invest any time in fixing this issue for a device that is over 2 years old. They want people to upgrade.

DaggettBeaver said:
I keep seeing people talking about this reboot problem when 99.9% of the time the solution is so simple. Get a new battery.
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Does this include stock unmodified and fully OEM phones? My wife's Note 4 started rebooting a lot in the last few days. She has done NOTHING other than standard user stuff. Me? I always mod mine or add an extended battery, but hers straight up the consumer setup, including the original battery.
If the battery, why would a battery cause this? just getting old or is this related to mods or buying after market batteries.
Bob

ParrSt said:
Does this include stock unmodified and fully OEM phones? My wife's Note 4 started rebooting a lot in the last few days. She has done NOTHING other than standard user stuff. Me? I always mod mine or add an extended battery, but hers straight up the consumer setup, including the original battery.
If the battery, why would a battery cause this? just getting old or is this related to mods or buying after market batteries.
Bob
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A phone battery (at least these days) isn't like a D battery you put in a flashlight. It communicates with the phone. When it starts to go bad, it can cause things like premature shutdowns and boot loops.
Yes, I've been running 6.0.1 ever since I got it OTA, and have never rooted or loaded a custom ROM since then. Suddenly my phone started shutting down at 40-60%, and often went into a boot loop. The only way I could stop it was to put it on the charger. But as soon as I had it fully charged, it would start giving me problems at 40-60% again.
I bought 2 supposedly Samsung OEM batteries, one from Amazon, and one with the external charger from Sprint. They both fixed the problem, but the Amazon battery sucks. It looks identical to the Sprint, but I suspect it's a clone. It doesn't last nearly as long as the Sprint OEM battery. I bet you can get a battery that is genuine Samsung other than using Sprint, but just beware.
EDIT: Just as an aside, I didn't suspect the battery was the problem at first. The battery started to swell up, which is why I replaced it. It was a lucky thing that replacing it fixed the problems.

Thanks, got one ordered. for $15, it is worth a try!

Or is it a conspiracy! Is Samsung killing our phones, to make us buy new ones? ???

Just my 2 cents. I don't know, but here is a theory.
Everyone i see make a post about rebooting issues always mentions it after taking ota's.
Now my theory, i can only speak for myself. I've never taken an ota, always upgraded through Odin. When i got my phone it was on ob7, i think. And i upgraded it through Odin since. Thank God i haven't had any problems.
So i wonder if it has something to do with Samsung's ota process? Just a thought!

aaron74 said:
Just my 2 cents. I don't know, but here is a theory.
Everyone i see make a post about rebooting issues always mentions it after taking ota's.
Now my theory, i can only speak for myself. I've never taken an ota, always upgraded through Odin. When i got my phone it was on ob7, i think. And i upgraded it through Odin since. Thank God i haven't had any problems.
So i wonder if it has something to do with Samsung's ota process? Just a thought!
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Samsung doesn't run the OTAs, they come from Google servers.

poit said:
Samsung doesn't run the OTAs, they come from Google servers.
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Understood! :good: