http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/introducing-the-new-gtx-800m-notebook-gpus
GameStream: Now On Notebooks
NVIDIA ShadowPlay’s critically acclaimed features are made possible by the H.264 encoder hardware integrated into every GeForce GTX Kepler and Maxwell GPU, and it is this same hardware that powers NVIDIA GameStream, a low latency technology that enables games to be streamed between GameStream-Ready devices, such as the NVIDIA SHIELD.
Like GeForce ShadowPlay, GeForce GTX 800M GPUs will support game-changing GameStream technology out of the box, with support for GeForce GTX 700M, and GeForce GTX 680M, GTX 675MX, GTX 670MX, and GeForce GTX 660M GPUs following later this month.
With the latest software updates for your notebook and SHIELD, you’ll be able to stream gameplay to SHIELD anywhere in range of your wireless router, or stream gameplay through SHIELD onto a HDTV at 1080p, making it the perfect solution for big screen gaming in situations where the PC or notebook cannot be placed next to the TV itself. To learn more about GameStream head on over to the GameStream tech page.
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GeForce GTX 800M notebooks are a turning point for mobile gamers, offering the same game-changing features as desktops, and performance levels capable of playing the latest and greatest games at ultra detail at Full HD resolutions. Notebooks are no longer catching up, they’re now on even footing with GeForce GTX desktops.
Beyond performance and features, GeForce GTX 800M notebooks bring increased power efficiency and Battery Boost to the table, giving notebook gamers unprecedented performance per watt and the ability to fine tune their battery-based gaming, increasing game times by up to 2x.
In comparison to our competitors, they can’t come close. GeForce GTX 800M notebooks feature record breaking performance, unbeatable performance efficiency, the best chassis, and critically acclaimed interconnected technologies that improve your games and extend the ways in which you interact with your games. Be that the streaming of gameplay to Twitch, the recording of footage with ShadowPlay, the optimization of settings with GeForce Experience, or the streaming of games to your TV with GameStream.
If you want to do more with your notebook, and do it better than anybody else, there’s only one game in town, and it is called GeForce GTX 800M. To find your perfect GeForce GTX 800M notebook, head on over to our GeForce GTX 800M landing page, which features all of the new and upcoming models
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Sick. Ive been waiting for 660m support.
I picked up a Shield today just because of this. I've been waiting to pull the trigger.
Alienware 14 w/ GTX765m <===> Shield.... NERDGASM!
I know this has been covered already, but since official Gamestreaming support isn't available yet, Splashtop Gamepad THD is a decent option. Even supports the builtin gamepad. Overall this thing might just change how I play certain games.
What about laptops with GT 750M SLI? (Lenovo Y510p) its just like a GTX 770M... its not supported? =(
looks like something you'll have to post on the Geforce forums to help clarify.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/136/general-discussion/
I can confirm with a 765m it's not supported yet! I don't see why...I mean the 800Ms are...w.e more waiting let's hope it's worth it!
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I can confirm with a 765m it's not supported yet! I don't see why...I mean the 800Ms are...w.e more waiting let's hope it's worth it!
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The mobile GPU support is not coming until next week. All they have said until yesterday is that it was coming. It seems it is coming April 2nd with the 4.4.2 update.
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The mobile GPU support is not coming until next week. All they have said until yesterday is that it was coming. It seems it is coming April 2nd with the 4.4.2 update.
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Oh ok, because in their sale Ad it said notebook support was here now
I can wait a week
Gamestreaming aside, this unique device has been an absolute joy to play games on. Borderlands2 plays really nicely already using splashtop. Theres no hindering lag.
Hey mrm0rbid99, have you been able to get the back button on the shield, to be mapped as a control in regards to emulators for splashtop?
I noticed that when using Splashtop THD, it recognizes all of my buttons except the back button. I can't remember if it worked for PC game(haven't played them in a while) , but when using emulators such as Dolphin or PCSX2, it doesn't recognize the Nvidia Shield's back button, when mapping controls. All it does it exit out of those emulators, instead of being a real control in games.
Have the same issue with Kainy where I can't input the "back" button as another control. Wondering if anyone else who uses splashtop has had this issue. Every other button works though.
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Hey mrm0rbid99, have you been able to get the back button on the shield, to be mapped as a control in regards to emulators for splashtop?
I noticed that when using Splashtop THD, it recognizes all of my buttons except the back button. I can't remember if it worked for PC game(haven't played them in a while) , but when using emulators such as Dolphin or PCSX2, it doesn't recognize the Nvidia Shield's back button, when mapping controls. All it does it exit out of those emulators, instead of being a real control in games.
Have the same issue with Kainy where I can't input the "back" button as another control. Wondering if anyone else who uses splashtop has had this issue. Every other button works though.
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I have not had much luck in this regard. If it werent for this 1 little issue, id be playing alot more games with this thing. kinda makes a few games unplayable though.
Well after playing with the new April update... ITS AWESOME!!!
Streaming from a notebook/laptop equipped with a GTX 7XX series GPU to Shield is just.... words cannot describe the joy I get from playing Bioshock Infinite while sitting on the john.
Also to clear up confusion, a GT Series M card will not work as it doesn't have the Encoding chip that the GTX cards have which is how the whole Streaming magic happens. So sadly anyone with a GT 750M will still not be able to stream. :/
which laptops have these gpu's?
hey which type of these agming laptops have these gpu's/
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The compatibility from the update reads: All 800Ms, 700Ms and Select 600Ms are compatible.
I woud say 660M and up for 600s if I remember what Nvidia said
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The compatibility from the update reads: All 800Ms, 700Ms and Select 600Ms are compatible.
I woud say 660M and up for 600s if I remember what Nvidia said
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But it says GTX at the beginning of the line that says that, so it's not for any of the 600 GT, 700GT, or 800GT cards I'm very upset as I had misread that before buying the Shield, ugh!
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But it says GTX at the beginning of the line that says that, so it's not for any of the 600 GT, 700GT, or 800GT cards I'm very upset as I had misread that before buying the Shield, ugh!
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GTX is merely a brand of the card, like saying Pro, XL or XT. They do state that ALL 700s and 800s are compatible, prob only 600s with GTX line, but I know for sure they said 660m and up (which really should be 650m...since they are the same card).
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GPU: GeForce GTX 650 or higher desktop GPU, or NVIDIA Kepler™-based GeForce GTX 600M or higher notebook GPU
Also reading the line it says GTX 600M or higher (which reads any 600m GTX or higher, not only GTX models for the 700s and 800s)
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GTX is merely a brand of the card, like saying Pro, XL or XT. They do state that ALL 700s and 800s are compatible, prob only 600s with GTX line, but I know for sure they said 660m and up (which really should be 650m...since they are the same card).
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GPU: GeForce GTX 650 or higher desktop GPU, or NVIDIA Kepler™-based GeForce GTX 600M or higher notebook GPU
Also reading the line it says GTX 600M or higher (which reads any 600m GTX or higher, not only GTX models for the 700s and 800s)
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Yes you'd think that a 750 GT 2GB mobile GPU would be considered higher than a GTX 600M but it's not. I have a Lenovo Y400 w/ a 750 GT 2GB and a Shield and the latest drivers released yesterday as well as the Shield update from yesterday and it's still not compatible, says it has to be a GTX in GeForce Experience and has a red mark next to that line showing my machine isn't Shield Streaming ready. So regardless of how it's worded what they really mean is it's now compatible with all GTX 600, 700, and 800 mobile processes but not the GT ones Really misleading if you ask me, I wouldn't have bought this thing had I known this.
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Yes you'd think that a 750 GT 2GB mobile GPU would be considered higher than a GTX 600M but it's not. I have a Lenovo Y400 w/ a 750 GT 2GB and a Shield and the latest drivers released yesterday as well as the Shield update from yesterday and it's still not compatible, says it has to be a GTX in GeForce Experience and has a red mark next to that line showing my machine isn't Shield Streaming ready. So regardless of how it's worded what they really mean is it's now compatible with all GTX 600, 700, and 800 mobile processes but not the GT ones Really misleading if you ask me, I wouldn't have bought this thing had I known this.
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Do you have N wireless or A?
I think u cannot do g.
If u can't do it, I'd contact Nvidia and tell them it was false advertisement and you stuck with a shield.
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Ok I need a new laptop as my 17" Pavillion dv9410us is starting to die.
what I'm looking for.
1080p or 1080p capable display.
Blu Ray Drive.
15.5" - 18.8" screen
Lots of storage (needs lots of room for all those roms xD)
full size keyboard.
Good hardriver & videocard.
64bit.
I'll be using it for light gaming, doing stuff to my hero, and Video & Audio editing.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think this is what a Quad Core is generally used for. I might do a little multitasking.
My budget is $1000 try to keep it under that, but I'll take a look at stuff up to 1.1k, but no higher.
Thanks, oh yah OS doesn't matter I'm going to put Win 7 Ultimate 64bit or Linux when I get it.
Do not get anything with an intel chipset. I dont care if its a 5.0 ghz quad core laptop. The reason being is because Intel has generic graphic drivers also infamously responsible for the intel 945 chipset which is subpar Geforce 2 mx 4000 quality graphics. When looking for laptops always get Nvidia or Ati chipsets with modern graphics cards inside them such as the Ati HD series or Geforce 9 or Geforce GTX series video cards. If you end up with intel chipsets you will have a bottlenecked PC. I dont care what anyone else says to you if you get a intel chipset you just wasted money lol.
Gotta agree with him, ATI is the way to go. I'd recommend an HP laptop, just because..... they don't suck as much as Dell or others.
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Ok I need a new laptop as my 17" Pavillion dv9410us is starting to die.
what I'm looking for.
1080p or 1080p capable display.
Blu Ray Drive.
15.5" - 18.8" screen
Lots of storage (needs lots of room for all those roms xD)
full size keyboard.
Good hardriver & videocard.
64bit.
I'll be using it for light gaming, doing stuff to my hero, and Video & Audio editing.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think this is what a Quad Core is generally used for. I might do a little multitasking.
My budget is $1000 try to keep it under that, but I'll take a look at stuff up to 1.1k, but no higher.
Thanks, oh yah OS doesn't matter I'm going to put Win 7 Ultimate 64bit or Linux when I get it.
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i have the Asus - Laptop with Intel® Core™ i5 Processor G60JX-RBBX05
its got everything but the blue ray its a beast of a laptop for 899 check bestbuy
If you are willing to spend some decent money, I can highly recommend a Sager. I got a NP8690 and have had no problems with it, and it plays everything I throw at it on max (L4D2, BC2, SC:C, etc.) I spent just about 2 grand and got a 820QM processor, 8gb of memory, a 5870M (dx11 graphics card).
Best laptop I have ever used, I doubt I will ever buy from a mainstream (dell, apple, hp) company again. ODM companies are the way to go.
Edit: And if I can speak from personal experience for a minute here, while I don't actually have anything against HP, they were the highest percentage of laptops I fixed during this past year at college. That could be that the people that tend to use them are idiots, or that there are more of them floating around, or it could be that they just suck. I don't know. Just saying. Never had one for myself, so I can't really say.
edit2: sorry, I missed the part about your budget. But I still think Sager is worth a gander, they have really REALLY great machines.
I've got a Toshiba Satellite A505-6033 that I got at Best Buy (A505 also available elsewhere). It's got an Intel chipset, but it's also got nVidia mobile graphics card that runs the games I've thrown at it so far very well. Those games would be Warhammer, Ultima Online (lol), and....well I guess that's it
It's got a quad core Core i7 720M and 4GB RAM with a 500GB HDD
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I've got a Toshiba Satellite A505-6033 that I got at Best Buy (A505 also available elsewhere). It's got an Intel chipset, but it's also got nVidia mobile graphics card that runs the games I've thrown at it so far very well. Those games would be Warhammer, Ultima Online (lol), and....well I guess that's it
It's got a quad core Core i7 720M and 4GB RAM with a 500GB HDD
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I really wanted a 1080p so I can watch 1080p Movies on my laptop
I was looking at A Sony Vaio Laptop that was 1080p.
So should I be looking at an ATI processor, and an Nvidia GPU?
This one is 1080p and I liked it, the screen was a little small though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127087
chococrazy said:
I really wanted a 1080p so I can watch 1080p Movies on my laptop
I was looking at A Sony Vaio Laptop that was 1080p.
So should I be looking at an ATI processor, and an Nvidia GPU?
This one is 1080p and I liked it, the screen was a little small though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127087
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Bang for the buck you are still better off with Intel processor and Nvidia graphics. Intel is still ahead of AMD in the processor dept...I am hoping AMD will come back as I was a big fan until the dual and quad core's from Intel came out and just smoked em......
I got this in March and have been very happy with it.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=sony+vpcf115fm&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=16969849650323262583&ei=57f5S8n4H8OC8gbTgbW0Cg&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCQQ8wIwAg#
Sorry, just saw your price range. WOuldn't be surprised if you found one for $1100 or cheaper since they're about to refresh that series.
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Sorry, just saw your price range. WOuldn't be surprised if you found one for $1100 or cheaper since they're about to refresh that series.
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How's the fan on it?
Everyone says it's loud on the reviews.
You could alwyas customize a compaq cq61z to your likings here
http://www.cheapstingybargains.com/...15-1067nr-15-6-inch-Notebook/product/39E0BEAE
HP Envy 15-1067nr Notebook with Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6 GHz and 15.6" Full HD LED Display (Microsoft)
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The HP Envy 15-1067nr Notebook features
Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6 GHz, L2 cache 6 MB, 15.6" Full HD Ultra BrightView LED backlit (1920 x 1080), ATI Mobility Radeon 4830 (M97) with 1 GB graphics memory, Windows 7 Premium, 6GB RAM, 500GB SATA 7200 RPM, External Super Multi 8x DVD±R/RW with double layer support, 802.11a/b/g/draft N with Bluetooth, 6-cell lithium-ion and 9-cell battery slice
Its kind of loud, but I don't notice it anymore. Plus, no heat issues which is a problem with a lot of other i7 laptops.
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5725517&CatId=4001
How does this laptop look to you guys.
I might be able to get it if i work for my Dad.
It doesn't have a blu ray drive, but it does have nice specs. If you can find one like this with a blu ray I'll love you
Here's a toshiba version, blu ray driver, but the HDD is half the size.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114804
chococrazy said:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5725517&CatId=4001
How does this laptop look to you guys.
I might be able to get it if i work for my Dad.
It doesn't have a blu ray drive, but it does have nice specs. If you can find one like this with a blu ray I'll love you
Here's a toshiba version, blu ray driver, but the HDD is half the size.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114804
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...517&CatId=4001
The tiger direct laptop doesnt spicify that it has a Sata hard drive, To me thats a potential deal breaker. Its got all the horsepower but the drive speed can bog down the computer and bottle neck it. also doesnt have a blueray player.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114804
This laptop doesnt have quadcore but it has all the bells and whistles you would need for extreme gaming like the GPU ram has GDDR 5 . i would look for a laptop that has quad core with blue ray and video card with GDDR5 memory. also either SSD or SAta drive.
Powers16 said:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...517&CatId=4001
The tiger direct laptop doesnt spicify that it has a Sata hard drive, To me thats a potential deal breaker. Its got all the horsepower but the drive speed can bog down the computer and bottle neck it. also doesnt have a blueray player.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114804
This laptop doesnt have quadcore but it has all the bells and whistles you would need for extreme gaming like the GPU ram has GDDR 5 . i would look for a laptop that has quad core with blue ray and video card with GDDR5 memory. also either SSD or SAta drive.
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The tigerdirect is not Sata
I'm really liking the Asus, butt my friends over at Tech geeks online said that if I disable my page file it wont matter. He said I'd only experience slow deleting & file moving.
If someone can find me one with the Asus specs but sata I'd love them.
Blu ray is now optional.
Um.. dont ever disable the page file system.. Unless you have 8gb of ram you should always keep your pagefile even if you disable it and use a 8gb flash drive for swap you still need a swap no matter what. They probably suggested that you disable pagefile because you are possibly getting 8gb of ram with your laptop. Even then, there is no reliable reason why the pagefile should be disabled its there for a reason.
Ok guys I have narrowed it down to the Final 3.
Do not stray pick the best one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...20-704^34-220-704-TS,34-220-695^34-220-695-TS
chococrazy said:
Ok guys I have narrowed it down to the Final 3.
Do not stray pick the best one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...20-704^34-220-704-TS,34-220-695^34-220-695-TS
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SONY VPCF117FX/B 16.4" Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit NoteBook
This one has blue ray, Geforce GT vid card, Sata drive 6gb of ram though but its worth the goodies you get, the expensive laptop in the list is mainly ram and hard drive and no blue ray player which is shocking i would go with the SONY VPCF117FX/B 16.4" Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit NoteBook and upgrade the ram on it to 8gb it will be worth the money and its a powehouse machine.
I personally think that Nvidia shield is better than this one. With the shield, you can stream your PC games on it.
Windiddy said:
I personally think that Nvidia shield is better than this one. With the shield, you can stream your PC games on it.
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Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
Bongiuz said:
Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
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Yes I need NVIDIA graphic card in the PC tower.
for me, streaming steam games isnt the deciding factor...it 's that project shield has tegra 4 which is claimed to be 2.5x faster than ouya 's tegra 3 with 45% less power consumption AND that a new version of ouya will be available by next year....all that aside, i believe project shield is a lot more portable than ouya...unless you manage to link ouya to your phone 's screen or something, you 're gonna need an actual screen .-.
Why would I want to stream games? I'd need the hardware in my PC to do so and at that point...why am I not gaming on my gaming desktop? The logic doesn't follow with that at all.
youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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Exactly! For me my android phone and Bluetooth controller are good enough for "mobile gaming". The ouya will make a good xbmc streaming device. But that's about all I'll use it for.
The Tegra 3 in the OUYA is going to be more powerful than the ones found in mobile devices because that there is no power constraint.
are two different devices too ...
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The Tegra 3 in the OUYA is going to be more powerful than the ones found in mobile devices because that there is no power constraint.
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Irrelevant. Project Shield has a Tegra 4. If it were, say, Ouya to Transformer TF300 or another comparable Tegra 3 device, would be relevant.
dibblebill said:
Irrelevant. Project Shield has a Tegra 4. If it were, say, Ouya to Transformer TF300 or another comparable Tegra 3 device, would be relevant.
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Fully relevant with people talking about the Tegra 4 delivering 2.5 times the performance of Tegra 3. It won't.
AW: Ouya vs Nvidia Shield
New i think if i would have to decide nvidia project shield and Ouya i would take the project shield
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bee55 said:
Fully relevant with people talking about the Tegra 4 delivering 2.5 times the performance of Tegra 3. It won't.
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I geuss we'll have to wait for end-user benchmarks and test to see for sure :S
I got an Ouya because I'd rather drop $500 on a Nexus device and have a separate media/HD Game device for the TV than spend $500 on one that does both.
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I geuss we'll have to wait for end-user benchmarks and test to see for sure :S
I got an Ouya because I'd rather drop $500 on a Nexus device and have a separate media/HD Game device for the TV than spend $500 on one that does both.
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Just for reference, the Ouya uses the highest-end Tegra 3 (T33), which by comparison, is clocked significantly faster than the version inside the Nexus 7.
Ouya clock speed relative to Nexus 7 (Tegra 3):
CPU: +33%
GPU: +25%
RAM: +20%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
It's no where near a Tegra 4, but with XBMC it should handle virtually any 1080P 24fps video you throw at it, which is why I really want it. The games are a bonus.
mancur said:
Just for reference, the Ouya uses the highest-end Tegra 3 (T33), which by comparison, is clocked significantly faster than the version inside the Nexus 7.
Ouya clock speed relative to Nexus 7 (Tegra 3):
CPU: +33%
GPU: +25%
RAM: +20%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
It's no where near a Tegra 4, but with XBMC it should handle virtually any 1080P 24fps video you throw at it, which is why I really want it. The games are a bonus.
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Yeah, I knew it was significantly faster than teh Tegra 3 tablets, but the claim was that it would be superior to the Tegra 4 speeds... I believe it'll be fantastic for Tegra 3.
uoya is the best
bigd5783 said:
youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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Or SNES to GameBoy.
Still, though, I'd like to have both. Simply for the reason that one is on-the-go gaming, and one is console gaming.
Bongiuz said:
Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
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in some weeks there will be a streaming service available with which you don't need any nvidia graphics card in the pc...just a tegra 3/4 device and you can play pc games also on android devices
You can also stream games from your pc to ouya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HZjm-KWCg
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cindylove said:
You can also stream games from your pc to ouya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HZjm-KWCg
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Yes because of splashtop or demo version of nvidias streaming service or so
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Hello to you all.
I'd like to hear your view about which version of the phone has more potential in the years to come when dealing with future emulators such as the Wii, 360, PS3, and any previous gen game console to date. With that I have a few questions I ask to you all.
With the Snapdragon running Quad 1.9's. What could be the maximum overclock on these?
In this wikipage, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4, it explains the Exynos runs only 1 of the 2 sets of quad 1.6 and 1.2 cores respectfully. I'd like to know if there is a bypass to get all 8 cores running concurrently at the same time. And if so, To get the overclock on every core for this model as well.
The ultimate goal is using a BT controller(Moga Controller), maximum processing and graphics powers(These phones), Connector cables for HDMI, and the proper emulators to enjoy(Which I'm currently working/dealing with).
Hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
Sincereless
Sincereless said:
I'd like to hear your view about which version of the phone has more potential in the years to come when dealing with future emulators such as the Wii, 360, PS3
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You're highly overestimating the performance of the phone. While there's a Dolphin emulator in the works to emulate Gamecube and Wii games on Android, the S4 will never be able to run them at a decent frame rate. 360 and PS3 emulators are out of the question, even for the most powerful desktop computers available.
Yeah, it takes many times the power of the original to emulate it. Phones are only close in capabilities to those 7 year old consoles which means there's no hope of emulating them.
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Yeah, it takes many times the power of the original to emulate it. Phones are only close in capabilities to those 7 year old consoles which means there's no hope of emulating them.
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THE ADRENO 320 ITS WORKING TOO CLOSE OF THE PS3 PERFORMANCE... AND THE 1.9GHz OF THE CPU IS OVERLOCKABLE TO 2.0GHz EVEN 2.2GHz BUT THE PHONE ALREY SUFFERS THOROTTLE SO LETS SEE WHAT HAPPEN
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Hello to you all.
With the Snapdragon running Quad 1.9's. What could be the maximum overclock on these?
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Doubt it will get overclocked, it already feels like it's gonna burn a hole through the screen after 15 minutes use...
Before we get into whether it can or can't run an emulation it's best to discuss the absolute limits of the Exynos phone and Snapdragon. I'm currently discussing the situation with a group working on the PS3 emulation. But first we need to know what the phone can and can't do.
So the question now is how high can the Exynos 1.6 and 1.2 cores be overclocked, and how high can the 1.9 Snapdragons? What would be a good stable overclock speed? One that won't burn out the CPU's.
(On a side note is there such a thing as portable external CPU's. After browsing extended batteries I got the notion you could kinda fit a second phone motherboard in the size of one of the extended cases. Say for example a second Galaxy S4.) <.<
Your thoughts?
I have had my shield now for a few weeks and I thought I'd share my opinion.
This thing is amazing. I do not understand why NVidia is not marketing this little machine. It's amazing.
I've got a 64 gig micro SD in it that has only 2 gigs free because I have it filled with ROMs
I have very few gripes about it.
1 - No camera. I really would have liked a camera for skype capabilities.
2 - R2 and L2 don't seem to be mappable on all the emulators. I think that is emulator problems not the shield itself.
3 - The lack of marketing. It's not very popular so developers are not really making many games strictly for the shield.
I have not played my PSP nor my exploited PS Vita since I got the shield. I honestly did not expect it to be this good. While the Vita has that super beautiful OLED screen, the Shield has a much better looking picture on EVERYTHING I have put on it.
This is my first android device. I have an iPhone 5, I may have to go straight with android from now on. This is great. I love how you can just use micro SD cards and you don't have to go spend a fortune on a memory card because you have no other choice.
This device is so highly under rated that it makes me sad.
I am actually looking into this. At $250, I say it's well worth it
I already ordered one from newegg for 250$ , t-shirt sucks though and I wish there would be WebCam
iCloudServ said:
I already ordered one from newegg for 250$ , t-shirt sucks though and I wish there would be WebCam
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Yea. But in my opinion I think it is still well worth the price tag. Look how much the vita costs and then how much you have to put in it for games and memory cards. The Shield costs a lot less in the long run and it has much better specs.
Shield is the the best portable gaming system yet. With the absolutely best controller - real joystick.
Best speakers also. 64gb card cost 40$ vs 100$ vitas 32gb.
The problem is that n64 emulators are very slow, no dreamcast emu also.
Mame support is limited.
Only 2 hardware/software problem. Lack of vibration and slow start up. Sleep state kill the battery.
Well its actually 250$ + 3000$ Gaming Server (PC) with 6Core Xeon + 64GB ram + SSD + GTX 690 )))) so I guess 3250$ its kind of expensive )))
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iCloudServ said:
Well its actually 250$ + 3000$ Gaming Server (PC) with 6Core Xeon + 64GB ram + SSD + GTX 690 )))) so I guess 3250$ its kind of expensive )))
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i5 + 4gb ddr3 + sshd + gtx650 above you can play with a good quality, first gaming on the small Shield display you dont need use AA, and you can play 720p (Shield display native resolution) and your games will still be nice and beautiful running medium quality or more, its less then us$3000.
I recently upgraded my PC to a gtx 770 with an i5 (+ram, SSD, etc) and paid less than $1000 if I was targeting the minimum specs streaming requires you could get away with under $500. $3k is so completely overkill on a system if all your doing is streaming. I bet most people can get away with just a GPU upgrade if they have a normal PC bought within the last 3 years.
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Well its actually 250$ + 3000$ Gaming Server (PC) with 6Core Xeon + 64GB ram + SSD + GTX 690 )))) so I guess 3250$ its kind of expensive )))
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You could get away with a $500 set up for streaming.
I don't understand how the shield could be held in such high regard when an original psp for 50 to 100 bucks will do all the things op said.
Dajinn said:
I don't understand how the shield could be held in such high regard when an original psp for 50 to 100 bucks will do all the things op said.
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If we're talking only about emulators, then I don't think its even close. I remember the PSP having a hard time with snes emulation. I also don't think a decent n64 emulator exists and playstation games look so much better on the Shield (retroarch). There's also a DS emulator for Android
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I don't understand how the shield could be held in such high regard when an original psp for 50 to 100 bucks will do all the things op said.
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The psp does not have the beautiful high def 5" screen. It also does not have the amazingly comfortable controller. The shield also runs the DS emulator and the psp does not. The sound quality, video quality, overall quality of the shield is leaps and bounds ahead of the psp.
Also, there are a bunch of my favorite games that I cannot map R2 and L2 triggers on the psp.
Dajinn said:
I don't understand how the shield could be held in such high regard when an original psp for 50 to 100 bucks will do all the things op said.
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There is also at least one PSP emulator being worked on for android.
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There is also at least one PSP emulator being worked on for android.
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I use ppsspp and it works great. I have had only 1 game(assassins creed) that runs slow on it. Everything else runs excellently. And you can use those extra triggers to fast forward through those stupid scenes that you don't like.
with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
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with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
Time will Tell
I'm curious to see how the nexus player develops
but right now I'm satisfied with the firetv I got XBMC on there and all my repos
so right now I'm good
I agreed, It probably locked bootloader and unless Google changed their mind letting us have a unlock bootloader = addicted flasher custom ROM. I might email some google developers and see what their response regard the bootloader status.
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
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While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
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100% sure? Google TV and Chrome products have been locked down. ChromeBook and Chromecast. This device is called a Nexus, and i cant name one Nexus device that is locked down. Even my nexus q was easily unlocked!!! Even though i can see them locking the device i disagree with the level of certainty you have (100%)
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While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
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Less Ram: Good point, but one of the android forums mention this wont be a problem with the intel chip. Time will tell.
lack of hardwire ethernet: the fire tv has FastEthernet which is limited by 100, Wireless N gives fastethernet a run for its money and this device supports AC. Way faster than fastethernet.
I will be giving it a shot I think. Need an extra unit for the bedroom TV anyway. Will wait to see if it is rootable first though I think
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Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
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Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
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This is only one device released by google, nvidia could release their own android tv device along with htc, samsung, acer, asus, motorla, hisense.... Etc... Even though i doubt nvidia will release a box since they already sell an nvidia shield tablet (which doesnt support dts pass through). Even though im sticking with my firetv i am interested to see others join. Especially if this pushes amazon to properly support vc1, 24p, 4k, dts-hd/truehd, 802.11ac.
I don't think you guys are remembering exactly what "Nexus" means. It means do whatever you want to the device.
Yes the Nexus 7 was locked but they made it easy to unlock for us to mod. The whole nexus line is the play ground line if you want to mod and have fun with your device.
I for one am going to be jumping ship because quite frankly, Amazon has, and always will be, absolutely garbage when it comes to making anything interface related. Their app sucks, their web interface sucks, their amazon fire TV interface sucks, everything they design is garbage when it comes to UI.
I've had a blast with this device but with them locking it down...no bueno.
As per the wireless worry, it's 5GHz AC. If you're doing anything that's going to be able to tax THAT, having an ethernet cable isn't going to save you.
Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
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Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
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Not exactly. Bootloader is still locked.
Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
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Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
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1 GB is fine. Unlike phones we wont be multi-tasking as much. The Nexus Player will mostly only worry about the active application which is why 1 GB will be fine. As for the CPU its an Inel Atom which has been shown to run as fast as a Snapdragon 801, for comparison sakes the FireTV uses a Snapdragon 600.
Its not exciting enough for me to jump over to it. My AFTV is doing everything i need right now, not to mention the lack of ethernet is a deal breaker. Unless wireless AC has come down quite a bit in the last few months, Im not ready to make that move.
Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to have to really WOW me to get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
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Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to really WOW me get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
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the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
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the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
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Would love to see one with OTA Antenna & PVR built in. Would be the perfect machine. For now a rooted FireTV will be the best for the price.
I'll wait for the actual user reviews to start showing up before I make a final decision, but at this point I'm leaning toward no. The biggest drawback to the FireTV for me is lack of storage. 8G is just not enough, I will not buy another FTV game until an official firmware update includes support for USB drives. Just a wild guess, but I suspect the Nexus Player has this same limitation. I'm willing to wait a bit longer and pay a bit more for a different Android TV box with better specs and hardware support.