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[Off Topic] I need help finding a new laptop!

Ok I need a new laptop as my 17" Pavillion dv9410us is starting to die.
what I'm looking for.
1080p or 1080p capable display.
Blu Ray Drive.
15.5" - 18.8" screen
Lots of storage (needs lots of room for all those roms xD)
full size keyboard.
Good hardriver & videocard.
64bit.
I'll be using it for light gaming, doing stuff to my hero, and Video & Audio editing.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think this is what a Quad Core is generally used for. I might do a little multitasking.
My budget is $1000 try to keep it under that, but I'll take a look at stuff up to 1.1k, but no higher.
Thanks, oh yah OS doesn't matter I'm going to put Win 7 Ultimate 64bit or Linux when I get it.

Do not get anything with an intel chipset. I dont care if its a 5.0 ghz quad core laptop. The reason being is because Intel has generic graphic drivers also infamously responsible for the intel 945 chipset which is subpar Geforce 2 mx 4000 quality graphics. When looking for laptops always get Nvidia or Ati chipsets with modern graphics cards inside them such as the Ati HD series or Geforce 9 or Geforce GTX series video cards. If you end up with intel chipsets you will have a bottlenecked PC. I dont care what anyone else says to you if you get a intel chipset you just wasted money lol.

Gotta agree with him, ATI is the way to go. I'd recommend an HP laptop, just because..... they don't suck as much as Dell or others.

chococrazy said:
Ok I need a new laptop as my 17" Pavillion dv9410us is starting to die.
what I'm looking for.
1080p or 1080p capable display.
Blu Ray Drive.
15.5" - 18.8" screen
Lots of storage (needs lots of room for all those roms xD)
full size keyboard.
Good hardriver & videocard.
64bit.
I'll be using it for light gaming, doing stuff to my hero, and Video & Audio editing.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think this is what a Quad Core is generally used for. I might do a little multitasking.
My budget is $1000 try to keep it under that, but I'll take a look at stuff up to 1.1k, but no higher.
Thanks, oh yah OS doesn't matter I'm going to put Win 7 Ultimate 64bit or Linux when I get it.
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i have the Asus - Laptop with Intel® Core™ i5 Processor G60JX-RBBX05
its got everything but the blue ray its a beast of a laptop for 899 check bestbuy

If you are willing to spend some decent money, I can highly recommend a Sager. I got a NP8690 and have had no problems with it, and it plays everything I throw at it on max (L4D2, BC2, SC:C, etc.) I spent just about 2 grand and got a 820QM processor, 8gb of memory, a 5870M (dx11 graphics card).
Best laptop I have ever used, I doubt I will ever buy from a mainstream (dell, apple, hp) company again. ODM companies are the way to go.
Edit: And if I can speak from personal experience for a minute here, while I don't actually have anything against HP, they were the highest percentage of laptops I fixed during this past year at college. That could be that the people that tend to use them are idiots, or that there are more of them floating around, or it could be that they just suck. I don't know. Just saying. Never had one for myself, so I can't really say.
edit2: sorry, I missed the part about your budget. But I still think Sager is worth a gander, they have really REALLY great machines.

I've got a Toshiba Satellite A505-6033 that I got at Best Buy (A505 also available elsewhere). It's got an Intel chipset, but it's also got nVidia mobile graphics card that runs the games I've thrown at it so far very well. Those games would be Warhammer, Ultima Online (lol), and....well I guess that's it
It's got a quad core Core i7 720M and 4GB RAM with a 500GB HDD

afazel said:
I've got a Toshiba Satellite A505-6033 that I got at Best Buy (A505 also available elsewhere). It's got an Intel chipset, but it's also got nVidia mobile graphics card that runs the games I've thrown at it so far very well. Those games would be Warhammer, Ultima Online (lol), and....well I guess that's it
It's got a quad core Core i7 720M and 4GB RAM with a 500GB HDD
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I really wanted a 1080p so I can watch 1080p Movies on my laptop
I was looking at A Sony Vaio Laptop that was 1080p.
So should I be looking at an ATI processor, and an Nvidia GPU?
This one is 1080p and I liked it, the screen was a little small though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127087

chococrazy said:
I really wanted a 1080p so I can watch 1080p Movies on my laptop
I was looking at A Sony Vaio Laptop that was 1080p.
So should I be looking at an ATI processor, and an Nvidia GPU?
This one is 1080p and I liked it, the screen was a little small though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127087
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Bang for the buck you are still better off with Intel processor and Nvidia graphics. Intel is still ahead of AMD in the processor dept...I am hoping AMD will come back as I was a big fan until the dual and quad core's from Intel came out and just smoked em......

I got this in March and have been very happy with it.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=sony+vpcf115fm&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=16969849650323262583&ei=57f5S8n4H8OC8gbTgbW0Cg&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCQQ8wIwAg#

Sorry, just saw your price range. WOuldn't be surprised if you found one for $1100 or cheaper since they're about to refresh that series.

funcrusher said:
Sorry, just saw your price range. WOuldn't be surprised if you found one for $1100 or cheaper since they're about to refresh that series.
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How's the fan on it?
Everyone says it's loud on the reviews.

You could alwyas customize a compaq cq61z to your likings here

http://www.cheapstingybargains.com/...15-1067nr-15-6-inch-Notebook/product/39E0BEAE
HP Envy 15-1067nr Notebook with Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6 GHz and 15.6" Full HD LED Display (Microsoft)
$2004$1204 Shipped (40% off)
Microsoft Store has the lowest and best price on the HP Envy 15-1067nr Notebook for $1199 after $800 coupon discount using coupon code CLR-MSAFL-40%-PC at check-out for 40% off (limited time) + $5 shipping. Get it now on sale for a cheap deal.
The HP Envy 15-1067nr Notebook features
Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6 GHz, L2 cache 6 MB, 15.6" Full HD Ultra BrightView LED backlit (1920 x 1080), ATI Mobility Radeon 4830 (M97) with 1 GB graphics memory, Windows 7 Premium, 6GB RAM, 500GB SATA 7200 RPM, External Super Multi 8x DVD±R/RW with double layer support, 802.11a/b/g/draft N with Bluetooth, 6-cell lithium-ion and 9-cell battery slice

Its kind of loud, but I don't notice it anymore. Plus, no heat issues which is a problem with a lot of other i7 laptops.
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5725517&CatId=4001
How does this laptop look to you guys.
I might be able to get it if i work for my Dad.
It doesn't have a blu ray drive, but it does have nice specs. If you can find one like this with a blu ray I'll love you
Here's a toshiba version, blu ray driver, but the HDD is half the size.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114804

chococrazy said:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5725517&CatId=4001
How does this laptop look to you guys.
I might be able to get it if i work for my Dad.
It doesn't have a blu ray drive, but it does have nice specs. If you can find one like this with a blu ray I'll love you
Here's a toshiba version, blu ray driver, but the HDD is half the size.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114804
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...517&CatId=4001
The tiger direct laptop doesnt spicify that it has a Sata hard drive, To me thats a potential deal breaker. Its got all the horsepower but the drive speed can bog down the computer and bottle neck it. also doesnt have a blueray player.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114804
This laptop doesnt have quadcore but it has all the bells and whistles you would need for extreme gaming like the GPU ram has GDDR 5 . i would look for a laptop that has quad core with blue ray and video card with GDDR5 memory. also either SSD or SAta drive.

Powers16 said:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...517&CatId=4001
The tiger direct laptop doesnt spicify that it has a Sata hard drive, To me thats a potential deal breaker. Its got all the horsepower but the drive speed can bog down the computer and bottle neck it. also doesnt have a blueray player.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114804
This laptop doesnt have quadcore but it has all the bells and whistles you would need for extreme gaming like the GPU ram has GDDR 5 . i would look for a laptop that has quad core with blue ray and video card with GDDR5 memory. also either SSD or SAta drive.
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The tigerdirect is not Sata
I'm really liking the Asus, butt my friends over at Tech geeks online said that if I disable my page file it wont matter. He said I'd only experience slow deleting & file moving.
If someone can find me one with the Asus specs but sata I'd love them.
Blu ray is now optional.

Um.. dont ever disable the page file system.. Unless you have 8gb of ram you should always keep your pagefile even if you disable it and use a 8gb flash drive for swap you still need a swap no matter what. They probably suggested that you disable pagefile because you are possibly getting 8gb of ram with your laptop. Even then, there is no reliable reason why the pagefile should be disabled its there for a reason.

Ok guys I have narrowed it down to the Final 3.
Do not stray pick the best one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...20-704^34-220-704-TS,34-220-695^34-220-695-TS

chococrazy said:
Ok guys I have narrowed it down to the Final 3.
Do not stray pick the best one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...20-704^34-220-704-TS,34-220-695^34-220-695-TS
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SONY VPCF117FX/B 16.4" Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit NoteBook
This one has blue ray, Geforce GT vid card, Sata drive 6gb of ram though but its worth the goodies you get, the expensive laptop in the list is mainly ram and hard drive and no blue ray player which is shocking i would go with the SONY VPCF117FX/B 16.4" Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit NoteBook and upgrade the ram on it to 8gb it will be worth the money and its a powehouse machine.

Ouya vs Nvidia Shield

I personally think that Nvidia shield is better than this one. With the shield, you can stream your PC games on it.

Windiddy said:
I personally think that Nvidia shield is better than this one. With the shield, you can stream your PC games on it.
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Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:

Bongiuz said:
Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
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Yes I need NVIDIA graphic card in the PC tower.

for me, streaming steam games isnt the deciding factor...it 's that project shield has tegra 4 which is claimed to be 2.5x faster than ouya 's tegra 3 with 45% less power consumption AND that a new version of ouya will be available by next year....all that aside, i believe project shield is a lot more portable than ouya...unless you manage to link ouya to your phone 's screen or something, you 're gonna need an actual screen .-.

Why would I want to stream games? I'd need the hardware in my PC to do so and at that point...why am I not gaming on my gaming desktop? The logic doesn't follow with that at all.

youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.

bigd5783 said:
youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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Exactly! For me my android phone and Bluetooth controller are good enough for "mobile gaming". The ouya will make a good xbmc streaming device. But that's about all I'll use it for.

The Tegra 3 in the OUYA is going to be more powerful than the ones found in mobile devices because that there is no power constraint.

are two different devices too ...

bee55 said:
The Tegra 3 in the OUYA is going to be more powerful than the ones found in mobile devices because that there is no power constraint.
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Irrelevant. Project Shield has a Tegra 4. If it were, say, Ouya to Transformer TF300 or another comparable Tegra 3 device, would be relevant.

dibblebill said:
Irrelevant. Project Shield has a Tegra 4. If it were, say, Ouya to Transformer TF300 or another comparable Tegra 3 device, would be relevant.
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Fully relevant with people talking about the Tegra 4 delivering 2.5 times the performance of Tegra 3. It won't.

AW: Ouya vs Nvidia Shield
New i think if i would have to decide nvidia project shield and Ouya i would take the project shield
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bee55 said:
Fully relevant with people talking about the Tegra 4 delivering 2.5 times the performance of Tegra 3. It won't.
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I geuss we'll have to wait for end-user benchmarks and test to see for sure :S
I got an Ouya because I'd rather drop $500 on a Nexus device and have a separate media/HD Game device for the TV than spend $500 on one that does both.

dibblebill said:
I geuss we'll have to wait for end-user benchmarks and test to see for sure :S
I got an Ouya because I'd rather drop $500 on a Nexus device and have a separate media/HD Game device for the TV than spend $500 on one that does both.
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Just for reference, the Ouya uses the highest-end Tegra 3 (T33), which by comparison, is clocked significantly faster than the version inside the Nexus 7.
Ouya clock speed relative to Nexus 7 (Tegra 3):
CPU: +33%
GPU: +25%
RAM: +20%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
It's no where near a Tegra 4, but with XBMC it should handle virtually any 1080P 24fps video you throw at it, which is why I really want it. The games are a bonus.

mancur said:
Just for reference, the Ouya uses the highest-end Tegra 3 (T33), which by comparison, is clocked significantly faster than the version inside the Nexus 7.
Ouya clock speed relative to Nexus 7 (Tegra 3):
CPU: +33%
GPU: +25%
RAM: +20%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
It's no where near a Tegra 4, but with XBMC it should handle virtually any 1080P 24fps video you throw at it, which is why I really want it. The games are a bonus.
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Yeah, I knew it was significantly faster than teh Tegra 3 tablets, but the claim was that it would be superior to the Tegra 4 speeds... I believe it'll be fantastic for Tegra 3.

uoya is the best

bigd5783 said:
youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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Or SNES to GameBoy.
Still, though, I'd like to have both. Simply for the reason that one is on-the-go gaming, and one is console gaming.

Bongiuz said:
Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
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in some weeks there will be a streaming service available with which you don't need any nvidia graphics card in the pc...just a tegra 3/4 device and you can play pc games also on android devices

You can also stream games from your pc to ouya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HZjm-KWCg

AW: Ouya vs Nvidia Shield
cindylove said:
You can also stream games from your pc to ouya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HZjm-KWCg
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Yes because of splashtop or demo version of nvidias streaming service or so
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[QUESTION]What's the best Android stick out now?

I will use the Android TV stick mostly for watching movies on XBMC, and I also want to know if any of them is capable of playing 1080p. So what'd you choose at the moment? I found the Imito MX2, and maybe the MX808 or 809, but what do you find the best stick at the moment?

I would be interested to read people's opinions also on this. I currently use two Xbox 360's with media center but Android sticks could be a nice alternative.

D3vi0uz said:
I will use the Android TV stick mostly for watching movies on XBMC, and I also want to know if any of them is capable of playing 1080p. So what'd you choose at the moment? I found the Imito MX2, and maybe the MX808 or 809, but what do you find the best stick at the moment?
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I chose the iMito MX2 due to it's speed and the fact that it had Bluetooth built in. I have two, and the only real problem I've had is that the play store can't seem to differentiate between them... I'm assuming I'll have to hack a serial down the road in one of them to fix it. It plays 1080p though, and is fast enough to handle dead trigger and retro arch with a gamepad, and blows my raspberry pi out of the water in xbmc smoothness. There are likely better sticks out now due to the quad cores, but these work really well for me.
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Best for the Price$
Let us make this by price category.
Best under $50
Best between $50 and $100
Best over $100
My top choices:
Best under $50
MK802II single core, lowest price (best supported, most ROMS, lots of firmware options)
MK808\MK808B dualcore (well supported, stable, fast, factory provides updates) tabletuser.blogspot.com and see benchmarks LINK
I own the Uhost U1A and it is the same as the MK802II, but don't own the MK802II. I do own the MK808B and believe for the $50 price it's the best choice for an Android Stick.

cesar33 said:
Let us make this by price category.
Best under $50
Best between $50 and $100
Best over $100
My top choices:
Best under $50
MK802II single core, lowest price (best supported, most ROMS, lots of firmware options)
MK808\MK808B dualcore (well supported, stable, fast, factory provides updates) tabletuser.blogspot.com and see benchmarks LINK
I own the Uhost U1A and it is the same as the MK802II, but don't own the MK802II. I do own the MK808B and believe for the $50 price it's the best choice for an Android Stick.
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I just bought MK 802 III for 58 dollars and It looks and works fantastic. It is dual core with 1GB ram. I read some reviews about it and most of them were positive. Android app to control it makes it better. I played some HBO Go movies and they were flawless and very clear. I also tested some 1080P videos from youtube and they works without any issue. On netflix I could see how the video started choppy but then turned into clear HD. I havent played with it much I think I am going to like it.
I also used FAVI smartstick, it was nice too but couldnt play 1080P videos. HBO go was low quality as it is single core.

cesar33 said:
Let us make this by price category.
Best under $50
Best between $50 and $100
Best over $100
My top choices:
Best under $50
MK802II single core, lowest price (best supported, most ROMS, lots of firmware options)
MK808\MK808B dualcore (well supported, stable, fast, factory provides updates) tabletuser.blogspot.com and see benchmarks LINK
I own the Uhost U1A and it is the same as the MK802II, but don't own the MK802II. I do own the MK808B and believe for the $50 price it's the best choice for an Android Stick.
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there are some with 4 cores, i dont know if some have 2 g of ram
http://www.asiapads.com/es/4-2-andr...7b-rk3188-quad-core-2gb-ram-8gb-rom-2363.html
http://liliputing.com/2013/04/tronsmart-mk908-quad-core-android-tv-stick-performance-video.html
http://liliputing.com/2013/01/cubox-mini-computer-goes-pro-with-2gb-of-ram.html
http://liliputing.com/2012/12/s21h-android-4-1-mini-pc-features-2gb-of-ram.html

Hi all, from my search the new quad cores look like they could actually be useful HTPC replacements.
They run the new RK3188 Chip, which means 1.8ghz (Quad core) CPU and MALI 400 GPU. I am still waiting for some custom ROMs and XBMC compatibility tests, but so far they look very promising.
From the reviews I've read/watched the MK908 looks like having a much improved WIFI reception, Bluetooth 4.0 and 2GB of RAM (most new sticks with the RK3188 have 2GB of RAM).
So let's see which Android pc stick will get the developers support , and then choose accordantly.
The competition is on.

Does anyone know if XBMC for android supports live/recorded TV? I have a QAM tuner in my HTPC running WMC right now.

Android stick for mothers day - need advice
I need to order an android stick and I need it fast, but I need product advice. I'm buy it for my mother for mothers day so that she can stream video over netflix and from my Plex server in my home a couple hundred miles away. I want her to be able to Skype rather seamlessly and since she's not very good with computers, less peripherals = better gift. Please advise on everything that I need to get her setup. I'll need either a stick that has a camera built in or I'll need a compatible web cam to buy separately from the stick. Same goes for the keyboard. I'd like it to be already set at or upgradeable to android 4.2 so that she can use it for Miracast. Please let me know:
- Which stick I should buy
- Recommended airmouse/air keyboard w/ mic and speaker if necessary
- Recommended/compatible wifi and/or USB webcam to clip onto the TV
- Recommended USB hub if I need one
If possible recommend devices that can be bought off of Amazon or somewhere in the US so that I can get it by Saturday. If not that's OK too I guess, it'll just be a bit late.
Thanks
Jim

I'm using UG802
Specs:
- 1.6 GHz Dual-Core (Rockchip 3066)
- 1 GB RAM
- 4 GB FLASH
- microSD Slot ( up to 32 GB)
XBMC works like a charm with the Finless ROM.

Shield k1 (2)? Marshmallow? 199 bucks?

http://m.androidcentral.com/nvidia-announces-shield-tablet-k1-refreshed-model-new-low-price
Smart move I guess. Throw it in a different box and pretend it's new. Sounds like an htc stunt. This makes sense though, considering the battery issue with this model.
http://m.androidcentral.com/nvidia-...pdate-shield-tablet-k1-original-shield-tablet
But as of now we are confirmed for marshmallow probably after the holidays, which is all I really care about. I gotta have that marshmallow!
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Its technically still one of the best android tablets for CPU and GPU. I would of loved to have seen it with the Tegra X1 but with the tablet market not really strong, even apple is having issues with the market, I can understand not updating it.

It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.

NoOneLt said:
It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.
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As long as you know how to change the system DPI to 240 then its great, I personally hate the stock DPI that they put on it, with the stock DPI it literally just feels like an enlarged phone. But as soon as you change it to 240 then its great.

NoOneLt said:
It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.
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I use mine for reading books, specifically pdf books of networking materials, and it works really well for that. The screen is amazing for comics. The tablet is a gaming beast and not much can touch its gpu capabilities. Admittedly, I don't do much gaming but I did do a playthrough of ff9 with ePSXe without a HITCH. It's without a doubt a gaming beast when it comes to android devices.
A small comparison lists of the things that are different between Nexus 9 and Shield Tablet:
Nexus 9 vs Shield Tablet
Screen
Nexus: 8.9in, 2048x1536
Shield Tablet: 8in, 1920x1200
Expandable storage
Nexus: None
Shield Tablet: up to 128gb microsd card
Cpu:
Nexus: 64 bit
Shield tablet: 32 bit
GPU:
Same
Ram:
Same
Speakers:
Shield tablet wins hands down
Android updates:
Nexus still has at least 2 more years of android updates
Shield Tablet is getting marshmallow for sure but the next one after is more than likely but not guaranteed.
Fair warning though:
The custom roms on this device have audio issues that happen randomly and it can be annoying. I haven't found a rom that don't have this issue, some are worst than others. There hasn't been a solution to it either from what I've seen.

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The nexus 9 has a better resolution, 2048x1536 vs the 1920x1200 on the shield. The CPUs are a 64bit 2.3Ghz dual core on the N9 and a 32bit 2.2 Quad on the ST. I haven't used an N9 so I can't really add anymore than that.

The shield has an SD card slot, front facing speakers, and wide screen. I read ebooks all the time on the shield and think it's perfect for that. The nexus might get slightly better battery life, but not much more. I was deciding between the two and picked the shield because with the thinner screen I can type very well with my thumbs. My 10.1 tablet is just too big to type on. I imagine with the wider screen the nexus would have that same problem. I would buy the shield for 300 bucks right now if I didn't own one so at 200 it's a steal.
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And what about x32 vs x64 on Nexus, though dual core? What is the future of it? Is it possible that at some point after a year Nexus will have better performance because of x64?

Probably when all tablet and smartphone are x64...they, maybe, developera start to create app that take advantage of x64 CPU...
But there is the possibility that they start to use gpgpu even on smartphone and this is an advantage for tegra hardware
Nobody knows...

Yeah it's hard to say. But at 200 bucks the shield blows away anything in its price range. And I much prefer the wide screen and front facing speakers. I spent a lot of time debating the nexus and the shield in my head and I just didn't want a 4:3 and I really wanted an SD card slot.
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NoOneLt said:
And what about x32 vs x64 on Nexus, though dual core? What is the future of it? Is it possible that at some point after a year Nexus will have better performance because of x64?
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They're equal for multicore performance but the single core performance is much stronger with the 64bit variant. In everyday use, you won't notice it.

nbollinger said:
They're equal for multicore performance but the single core performance is much stronger with the 64bit variant. In everyday use, you won't notice it.
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Thats the thing, most of the users of this tablet use it for gaming. Its a shame the new tablet doesn't have 64bit, but at least it is worth the price.

According to this benchmarks seems like if i would not care about Shield PC streaming or exclusive game in pure performance Nexus is doing better? As i see single core almost 2x better and this would be utilized most in applications not optimized for multi-core? And multi-core is around the same level...
But maybe Marshmallow on Shield could bring another results.

I wait for Shield Tablet 2

Had both, but sold the N9 some weeks ago. My problem with it was, i play a lot WOT Blitz and on the Nexus with max graphics the fps drops from 60 to between 50 and 35 after some minutes of gaming. But the Shield Tab stays most of the time on 60fps and if it drops its still between 50-60 fps and this with maxed out Graphics!

cyraxx84 said:
Had both, but sold the N9 some weeks ago. My problem with it was, i play a lot WOT Blitz and on the Nexus with max graphics the fps drops from 60 to between 50 and 35 after some minutes of gaming. But the Shield Tab stays most of the time on 60fps and if it drops its still between 50-60 fps and this with maxed out Graphics!
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That's pretty interesting, nexus and shield tablet have the same gpu.

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That's pretty interesting, nexus and shield tablet have the same gpu.
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Nexus 9 put more pressure on GPU with higher screen resolution and use a dual core CPU

Anyone who has the K1 can you answer some questions for me?
Does your bottom speaker move? i noticed earlier that I can make it click by pressing on it lightly :S also is there only 1 speaker behind each grill? the speaker on the top I can feel the vibration of how loud it is but the bottom one I can't.
Think it's faulty but that's why i'm asking.

faulty

6700XT Which brand to pick?🤔

Hello guys,
I ordered one MSI 3060 Ventus 2X OC about 380 euros, but then I found 6700XT is a lot better choice at the same price and I canceled the order to buy 6700XT. However I am kinda confused which brand to pick, I know it's -+ about the same perfomance but mostly wondering about Coil whine and Noise / Temps.
Could someone help me to pick the best gpu from these options: (all these are about the same price of 380-390euros) Does anyone tried any of these?
1. Sapphire Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 Pulse
2. ASRock Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 Challenger
3. MSI Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 Mech 2X OC
4. PowerColor Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 Fighter
5. Asrock RX 6700 XT Phantom Gaming D 12GB OC (405euros)
It will be combined with Intel Core i5-12600KF Processor, 32GB G.skill RAM 3200, 1440p 155 Monitor and it will replace MSI 1660 Super Gaming X.
Thanks in advance.

In my opinion, OC versions are better constructed for increased heat dissipation.
At the same time, you do not need to use OC at all.

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In my opinion, OC versions are better constructed for increased heat dissipation.
At the same time, you do not need to use OC at all.
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I found 6700XT Powercolor Red Devil 12GB and Asus RTX 3060 Ti 8GB Dual V2 OC LHR both used in excelent condition with warranty 330€, so I am thinking to buy one of these two. Which one you think? I am close to 6700XT Red Devil as I hear is top tier.

Retrial said:
I found 6700XT Powercolor Red Devil 12GB and Asus RTX 3060 Ti 8GB Dual V2 OC LHR both used in excelent condition with warranty 330€, so I am thinking to buy one of these two. Which one you think? I am close to 6700XT Red Devil as I hear is top tier.
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A lot depends on what your usage preferences are. GForce drivers for linux are very limited as NVidia does not disclose the codes to build them. For this reason and more RAM, the 6700XT Powercolor Red Devil 12GB is the better choice of both cards, although it consumes 30W more power at peak. However, in video (movie) processing for Windows, the Titanium chipset may be more efficient.
Be careful when buying a card from a cryptocurrency miner. The warranty won't help if the cards were overheated. Their performance drops.

ze7zez said:
A lot depends on what your usage preferences are. GForce drivers for linux are very limited as NVidia does not disclose the codes to build them. For this reason and more RAM, the 6700XT Powercolor Red Devil 12GB is the better choice of both cards, although it consumes 30W more power at peak. However, in video (movie) processing for Windows, the Titanium chipset may be more efficient.
Be careful when buying a card from a cryptocurrency miner. The warranty won't help if the cards were overheated. Their performance drops.
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Well my usage is mostly for gaming and slightly other stuff.
Luckily the card is not from crypto miner, I will probably get the red devil 6700xt
I think it will age better than 3060 ti.

Electronics are aging very fast!

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Electronics are aging very fast!
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indeed well seriously 8gb vram of 3060 ti I don't think will last for long, instead 12gb vram of 6700xt have plenty time to age very well

For AMDs , Sapphire & Powercolor are way to go.
Red Devil is a good choice.
But there is also a thing about warranties.
Sapphire has weird warranty rules where I live.
I wouldn't go for used TBH. I would instead get a cheap new card rather than a used one.
If you can wait 2 months, the 7xxx series should be around June-July.

karandpr said:
For AMDs , Sapphire & Powercolor are way to go.
Red Devil is a good choice.
But there is also a thing about warranties.
Sapphire has weird warranty rules where I live.
I wouldn't go for used TBH. I would instead get a cheap new card rather than a used one.
If you can wait 2 months, the 7xxx series should be around June-July.
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I can take 6700XT new at 388€ but low tier models. Red Devil seems beast compared to these low tier cards.
The guy sent me a video and screenshots, the card is in excellent condition and he didn't used it a lot, mostly for editing videos etc. He will also give me all papers for warranty etc. + he could return me the money if I install it and I have problem.
The thing with 7xxx is would be kinda expensive when they come out at September and my budget will remain the same.
Now you make me wonder 6700XT or 7xxx I was already in dilemma about 6700xt or 3060 ti and about what model.

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I can take 6700XT new at 388€ but low tier models. Red Devil seems beast compared to these low tier cards.
The guy sent me a video and screenshots, the card is in excellent condition and he didn't used it a lot, mostly for editing videos etc. He will also give me all papers for warranty etc. + he could return me the money if I install it and I have problem. I attached few screenshot below.
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Red Devil is a good series and powercolor is top 2 AMD brands so they would perform good as long as it was not used to mine.
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The thing with 7xxx is would be kinda expensive when they come out at September and my budget will remain the same.
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7900 got a price drop in a month so I think there is hope. Nah they gonna gauge us, aren't they?
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Now you make me wonder 6700XT and 7xxx I was already in dilemma about 6700xt or 3060 ti and about what model.
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Oh man.
I went from 3060 to 6650 to 6700 XT to 3060 Ti then checked the models.
Apparently, there is a 3060 Ti with a GDDR6X which makes it equivalent to 3070.
Then the Hogwarts Legacy thing hit and 8GB ram is actually not enough anymore.
So back to 6700XT / 6750 XT.
Powercolor /Asus TUF : Out of stock
Gigabyte : Coil whine
Sapphire : Only pulse models. No nitros in stock
AsRock: Lot of complaints in my place.
Asus Dual/ MSI Ventus: Not good
And then nvidia announce RTX Remix yesterday.
NVIDIA RTX Remix Modding Platform
Sign up to be notified of RTX Remix availability.
www.nvidia.com
As an old game enjoyer, this is an enticing feature.
I am just going to wait I guess.

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Red Devil is a good series and powercolor is top 2 AMD brands so they would perform good as long as it was not used to mine.
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Indeed about Powercolor I hear very good things, I must be honest as an Nvidia users for years I didn't knew that brand but with a bit search I learned it's top tier Brand along with Sapphire.
What's wrong with used if it's in an excellent condition and not extremely used? The same card new here cost 515€ and I get it 330€ with warranty. I guess the discount worth it. Then again I wondering, is it good to buy new cheap low tier model or it's better used with better price, top tier in good condition?
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7900 got a price drop in a month so I think there is hope. Nah they gonna gauge us, aren't they?
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Hehe, well I am sure, here I am gonna pay more if I go for new 7000 series plus I am gonna wait for more months, they will release at September, I expect local shops here to have them around Oct. Even now 6750XT new not the best tier costs ~450€+.
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Oh man.
I went from 3060 to 6650 to 6700 XT to 3060 Ti then checked the models.
Apparently, there is a 3060 Ti with a GDDR6X which makes it equivalent to 3070.
Then the Hogwarts Legacy thing hit and 8GB ram is actually not enough anymore.
So back to 6700XT / 6750 XT.
Powercolor /Asus TUF : Out of stock
Gigabyte : Coil whine
Sapphire : Only pulse models. No nitros in stock
AsRock: Lot of complaints in my place.
Asus Dual/ MSI Ventus: Not good
And then nvidia announce RTX Remix yesterday.
NVIDIA RTX Remix Modding Platform
Sign up to be notified of RTX Remix availability.
www.nvidia.com
As an old game enjoyer, this is an enticing feature.
I am just going to wait I guess.
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Lmao I feel you.
I ordered 3060 new gpu but then I canceled the order since I saw 6700XT had similar perfomance with 3060 ti - 3700 plus 12GB VRAM and Hogwarts came to my mind.
Now I am about to buy used 6700XT Red Devil but 2 days ago I saw the new Nvidia VLC upscaling feature + RTX Remix you show me now.... I also found a guy in reddit saying Ray Traycing/DLSS doesn't worth in 3060 ti cards and also AMD's FSR 3.0 is around the corner and nvidia will lock DLSS 3 only to 4000 series.
I am gonna cry...I don't know what to choose.

Retrial said:
Indeed about Powercolor I hear very good things, I must be honest as an Nvidia users for years I didn't knew that brand but with a bit search I learned it's top tier Brand along with Sapphire.
What's wrong with used if it's in an excellent condition and not extremely used? The same card new here cost 515€ and I get it 330€ with warranty. I guess the discount worth it. Then again I wondering, is it good to buy new cheap low tier model or it's better used with better price, top tier in good condition?
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Nothing wrong I guess. Unless it is used by miners. Who sometimes swap components on cards. That's the main issue I believe.
And yes the top cards are better usually.
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Hehe, well I am sure, here I am gonna pay more if I go for new 7000 series plus I am gonna wait for more months, they will release at September, I expect local shops here to have them around Oct. Even now 6750XT new not the best tier costs ~450€+.
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Oh wow. That's a huge difference. Here the difference between 6750 XT and 6700XT is around 20-30 euros.
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Lmao I feel you.
I ordered 3060 new gpu but then I canceled the order since I saw 6700XT had similar perfomance with 3060 ti - 3700 plus 12GB VRAM and Hogwarts came to my mind.
Now I am about to buy used 6700XT Red Devil but 2 days ago I saw the new Nvidia VLC upscaling feature + RTX Remix you show me now.... I also found a guy in reddit saying Ray Traycing/DLSS doesn't worth in 3060 ti cards and also AMD's FSR 3.0 is around the corner and nvidia will lock DLSS 3 only to 4000 series.
I am gonna cry...I don't know what to choose.
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6700 XT has better performance than 3060 Ti. It's near 3070 in everything except Raytracing.
IMO any sort of upscaling looks weird.
nvidia has better software features and support for AI.
AMD just makes good cards. They last a while.

karandpr said:
6700 XT has better performance than 3060 Ti. It's near 3070 in everything except Raytracing.
IMO any sort of upscaling looks weird.
nvidia has better software features and support for AI.
AMD just makes good cards. They last a while.
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Since you have used both, at this point at the same price, which one you suggest and worth more?
I mostly use it for games, yuzu emulator, watching movies/series locally (nvidia released vlc upscaling :S) and generally slightly other things.
Most people telling me to go with 6700XT.

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Since you have used both, at this point at the same price, which one you suggest and worth more?
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Mostly I have been around people who have those. . And a lot of Reddit trawling.
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I mostly use it for games, yuzu emulator, watching movies/series locally (nvidia released vlc upscaling :S) and generally slightly other things.
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That's the tough question.
AMD Pros:
The games on 6700 XT look better. It's a personal opinion tho. No FSR btw.
Also, IMO Xbox and PS5 ports will perform better since both have AMD chips. e.g Horizon games.
Better Linux support, cos Steam has AMD chip as well.
AMD Cons
You cannot run Hackintosh on 6700 XT.
You can do it on 6600 XT/6650 XT/ 6800 .
Goodluck trying to do any AI development.
Nvidia Pros
Raytracing performance is great. Cyberpunk looks dope on nvidia system.
If you do code and are interested in AI modeling, nVidia is the way to go because most libraries are targeted toward Nvidia. And 3060 12GB is a better choice than 3060 Ti/3070/3070 Ti due to more Ram.
Moonlight uses Gamestream but nvidia is shutting down. So I think they will be moving to sunshine which has support for AMD. But I dunno.
Nvidia's AI noise cancellation thing is really cool if you use Mic for calls/recording.
Nvidia Cons:
You cannot run Hackintosh on any nvidia card.
8 GB is not enough for the 1440p system.
A lot of Nvidia software is bound to newer cards.

karandpr said:
Mostly I have been around people who have those. . And a lot of Reddit trawling.
That's the tough question.
AMD Pros:
The games on 6700 XT look better. It's a personal opinion tho. No FSR btw.
Also, IMO Xbox and PS5 ports will perform better since both have AMD chips. e.g Horizon games.
Better Linux support, cos Steam has AMD chip as well.
AMD Cons
You cannot run Hackintosh on 6700 XT.
You can do it on 6600 XT/6650 XT/ 6800 .
Goodluck trying to do any AI development.
Nvidia Pros
Raytracing performance is great. Cyberpunk looks dope on nvidia system.
If you do code and are interested in AI modeling, nVidia is the way to go because most libraries are targeted toward Nvidia. And 3060 12GB is a better choice than 3060 Ti/3070/3070 Ti due to more Ram.
Moonlight uses Gamestream but nvidia is shutting down. So I think they will be moving to sunshine which has support for AMD. But I dunno.
Nvidia's AI noise cancellation thing is really cool if you use Mic for calls/recording.
Nvidia Cons:
You cannot run Hackintosh on any nvidia card.
8 GB is not enough for the 1440p system.
A lot of Nvidia software is bound to newer cards.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed post.
I know RT looks great on Nvidia but it comes with FPS loss + is 3060 cards really worth the RT? ofc some titles look and run great like Cyberpunk. What about the future? I don't believe 3060 will run that much great in new titles.
I don't do AI dev, so pretty much for everything else winner seems is AMD between these cards.
Anyways, I think I am over thinking it, 6700XT looks dope especially the beast Red Devil.