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Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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If you are not looking into rooting, I recommend Google Now Launcher. It is the most stock Android UI experience you can get on a nonnexus phone. Since it's just a launcher, you retain all your device features. If you are looking into swapping out all of the UI and apps from TW base to stock LP ones, however you will experience this error message everytime you exit out of an app: "Android.System.UI has stopped working", so I do not recommend that.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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You're awnser lies amongst the rooted side flashing a tw rom that is aggressively debloated of apps even some essentials and using stock ones from google and then i guess theming the rom to look like a stock pure lollipop. I heard there are some nice alternatives for the spen usage and multiwindow i have tried some in the past on pure android on note 2 but the experience is nowhere near the stock apps from tw, regarding spen and multiwindow.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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If you want to keep eveything, you will have to think about a launcher indeed. Goole Now Launcher will be the closest thing.
Google now launcher: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.launcher
I would say when rooted, flash CM12 official, and use CM SPen addon, in combination with notebuddy for you SPen features. You will only lose the multiwindow (links down below).
Spen Addon: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.cmspen2
Notebuddy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.spen_helper
CM12 Official: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/official-cm12-910f-910g-t3046965
Willem1975 said:
If you want to keep eveything, you will have to think about a launcher indeed. Goole Now Launcher will be the closest thing.
Google now launcher: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.launcher
I would say when rooted, flash CM12 official, and use CM SPen addon, in combination with notebuddy for you SPen features. You will only lose the multiwindow (links down below).
Spen Addon: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.cmspen2
Notebuddy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.spen_helper
CM12 Official: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/official-cm12-910f-910g-t3046965
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yeah but you still lose the epic camera quality.
as much as i dislike touchwiz and like cm12 i keep running on stock rom becouse the camera quality on CM based roms is just to bad.
if only there was a way to get the camera quality on a cyanogenmod rom it would be so awesome i wouldnt even care about the spen anymore
I just got two of these phones for my wife and kid. Since I'm a Note 3 owner and have been on 4.4.4 Biggins ROM cause I love the customization and the Xposed modules, the Lollipop roms are kinda new territory for me. So - that being said - what are some things I need to know with rom'ing and rooting an S5? Both phones came with 5.0 and I am not sure if I should downgrade them to a 4.4.4 rom so I can use Xposed (from what I understand, Xposed doesn't work on Lollipop), but here's the questions I need help/advice with:
1. Is there a version of Xposed that works with Lollipop
2. What do I lose besides Material if I downgrade from Lollipop to KK
3. Are the radios for KK better or worse than the Lollipop ones
4. What's the most customizable (battery icon, tether, network speed indicators, status bar mods, themes, etc.) Lollipop ROM? Which is the most developer active ROM for LP & KK?
5. Which offers the best battery life? LP or KK
I could use some advice from you, the XDA community since I'm not a noob but don't feel like "experimenting" with unstable features since these aren't my daily phones.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Jesse
jessenj said:
I just got two of these phones for my wife and kid. Since I'm a Note 3 owner and have been on 4.4.4 Biggins ROM cause I love the customization and the Xposed modules, the Lollipop roms are kinda new territory for me. So - that being said - what are some things I need to know with rom'ing and rooting an S5? Both phones came with 5.0 and I am not sure if I should downgrade them to a 4.4.4 rom so I can use Xposed (from what I understand, Xposed doesn't work on Lollipop), but here's the questions I need help/advice with:
1. Is there a version of Xposed that works with Lollipop
2. What do I lose besides Material if I downgrade from Lollipop to KK
3. Are the radios for KK better or worse than the Lollipop ones
4. What's the most customizable (battery icon, tether, network speed indicators, status bar mods, themes, etc.) Lollipop ROM? Which is the most developer active ROM for LP & KK?
5. Which offers the best battery life? LP or KK
I could use some advice from you, the XDA community since I'm not a noob but don't feel like "experimenting" with unstable features since these aren't my daily phones.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Jesse
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Nice double post by the way
1) not for touchwiz based ROMs
2) You're flashing an old ROM over a new ROM, you lose your system and data
3) some say the L kernel has better battery life, most say it's worse. It's probably a toss up
4) You need to determine that for yourself. They are all basically the same due to locked bootloader, only TW based ROMs will work, which severely limits things
5) see 3
Pretty much the same thing ldeveraux said, except for the radios they are basically the same if you mean cell service. I notice no difference. Also, for a ROM that is most customizable I would say either MOAR or Alliance. MOAR has lots of user customized things while Alliance has themes.
Thanks for the replies. I realized based on your responses, how I might have been a little more vague than I intended, but either way, the answer I was looking for most was pretty much addressed. I've decided that I'm going to downgrade firmware to the latest KK MOAR rom since both phones have no other data and a wipe won't disturb anything. I have TiBu backups of the apps, settings, etc so I'll just reload them both. Also, since theming is less important to me than customization, MOAR is the way I'm leaning, but I was wondering what the daily driver experience has been like for both. Has anyone run both MOAR and Alliance long enough to see general battery life comparisons, speed, features? Like, for example, are either roms having issues with common functions, like screen sharing, GPS, MMS, tethering, KNOX, etc? Since I mostly run Xposed with the modules I like, out-of-the-box tweaked interface is less of a priority since I'll just tailor the functionality afterwards.
As always - BIG THANKS for taking a look at my post and taking the time to respond. I appreciate it.
Jesse
I'm using cm 10.2 on my d800. its been kinda buggy lately with the contacts and music widget crashing. I figure I'll put lollipop on. whats the most stable bug free rom to use? I was thinking either cm 12 or stock lg g2 lollipop update. I need a stable phone. I prefer the stock lollipop look so the lg g2 lollipop update isn't my first choice.
I am exactly like you, only that I have the Lollipop Update (D800 - v30f) but I want a Stock Lollipop-Looked Rom, but at the same time I want the LG's features like QuickMemo+ and QuickRemote, so if someone know how I could have this kind of LG's features on a AOSP Rom, I will be so geatfull!
JoeBro19 said:
I am exactly like you, only that I have the Lollipop Update (D800 - v30f) but I want a Stock Lollipop-Looked Rom, but at the same time I want the LG's features like QuickMemo+ and QuickRemote, so if someone know how I could have this kind of LG's features on a AOSP Rom, I will be so geatfull!
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I think the stock roms for any android version are missing a lot of camera features that come with the lg roms, right?
cloudy?
droidfreak007 said:
cloudy?
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cloudy g2 3.0 looks like the lg g3 rom. has the lg skin.
it seems like a very good option if i can't find a unskinned rom.
imo lollipop is unstable on the whole (memory leak, redraws, etc) which is why im still on cloudy kk.
You could use the aosp stock laucher on top of standard lg Lollipop. From http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/upload-aosp-launcher-apk-lollipop-please-t2944079
Don't know if that will run on the G2... But why shouldn't it?
droidfreak007 said:
imo lollipop is unstable on the whole (memory leak, redraws, etc) which is why im still on cloudy kk.
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I've been on Lollipop since day 1, I've had 0 redraws, and I don't think I have memory leak, but I'm not sure how could I test that, seeing the running apps currently I have 733 MB free RAM, System uses 583 MB and Apps use 542 MB, I don't know how good is that, but I know that my experience on Lollipop has been great, I couldn't use KitKat for a minute (at least not stock KitKat, Cloudy's ROM is way better).
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You could use the aosp stock laucher on top of standard lg Lollipop. From http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/upload-aosp-launcher-apk-lollipop-please-t2944079
Don't know if that will run on the G2... But why shouldn't it?
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Or just download Nova? But that's still not the same as running a 5.1 stock ROM, I miss some things from my old phone which was running 5.1, and I can't replace that with apps.
Pr3no said:
I've been on Lollipop since day 1, I've had 0 redraws, and I don't think I have memory leak, but I'm not sure how could I test that, seeing the running apps currently I have 733 MB free RAM, System uses 583 MB and Apps use 542 MB, I don't know how good is that, but I know that my experience on Lollipop has been great, I couldn't use KitKat for a minute (at least not stock KitKat, Cloudy's ROM is way better).
Or just download Nova? But that's still not the same as running a 5.1 stock ROM, I miss some things from my old phone which was running 5.1, and I can't replace that with apps.
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what rom are you using now? cloudy g2 3.0 ?
Just stock Lollipop (I mean LG's stock Lollipop, not AOSP-stock).
Give Tsunamical's Euphoria-OS 1.1 a try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development/rom-euphoria-os-1-1-t3114678
Euphoria-OS is from the same team that gave us the awesome Mahdi ROM for KitKat. Tsunamical has put a CAF-based kernel on it and done a bunch of other work. It's a fast, solid, daily driver quality ROM with lots of good features but without a lot of bloat.
My experience: stock lollipop + nova launcher set on fast + set 0.5 animations transitions and duration in developer options menu + kernel dorimanx in signature (performance profile). Rock stable super smooth and very good battery life.
tnstatc said:
Give Tsunamical's Euphoria-OS 1.1 a try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development/rom-euphoria-os-1-1-t3114678
Euphoria-OS is from the same team that gave us the awesome Mahdi ROM for KitKat. Tsunamical has put a CAF-based kernel on it and done a bunch of other work. It's a fast, solid, daily driver quality ROM with lots of good features but without a lot of bloat.
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I'm not sure if he is asking about Stock LG Lollipop or Stock Android. Regardless these are some good suggestions. I personally LOVE the stock LG rom. Like above, I use Nova regardless and .5 Animations.
The Verizon Stock Lollipop 39A is apparently supreme in this case, enough to warrant people porting it. Because the Verizon Variant is GSM unlocked, there isn't much hassle getting it to work on GSM international and Tmobile phones. Most of the "new" stuff Verizon lollipop brings is mostly more Material design in the dialer, messaging, email, etc. I know there is a port thread here somewhere if you look. I honestly didn't have a problem with it. It was MUCH more stable than the CM based roms. The G3 rom ports are also pretty good but buggy on the Verizon model (international G3 ported was lacking Verizon features). I always ended up back on stock.
I've tried going back to the Stock Android Lollipop but I constantly miss the small LG features of the LG rom. There are just too many cool things LG offers like the Floating notifications for Phone and Messaging, Wifi File Sharing, Keyboard, etc. These are things you can't download from the Play Store and have them intregrated like LG has it.
But no matter the base rom, I always use Nova, .5, lower DPI, and SideBar.
The only thing I really like is the CM Theme Engine to randomly swap out the system themes. But I like the white theme of the LG rom. This is the only phone I have actually stayed on the manufactures rom longer than a week; kept it for 2 years and since upgraded to the LG G4.
I had been waiting for my carrier (telstra) to release the lollipop update to my device (SM-N910G) before I rooted, I have now been updated and have rooted my phone, I'm currently still on stock recovery, everything else stock. I am pretty sure Xposed is out of the question for me being on the stock rom, I'm not really interested in installing a custom rom at this stage, is there anything else available that offers the level of customization that Xposed does that will play nice with my phone? Or am I mistaken and xposed should work with my device? I don't really want to stuff around and experiment too much like I have with other devices because I don't want to have to fix it over and over, I'm hoping others have experimented enough to tell me what works. I like the overall functionality of the device, I just wanted to change some things and add to the experience, I would like to be able to customize the Air Command for example, maybe change some status bar icons, change the dpi of some applications, make things a bit snappier, add some missing features, etc, I don't want to lose any of the baked in touchwiz functionality, any suggestions?
Xposed for touchwiz lollipop requires a deodexed ROM which you should be able to find in the development section for your SoC (snapdragon or exynos)
I saw there was an unofficial version of Xposed for touchwiz lollipop but it looked beta and unstable, any more info on that? By the way, is there any downside to a deodexed as opposed to odexed rom?
LG Volt was my first obsession, I moved to this G2 {unlocked verizon varient} with 4.4.2 stock 24a, I dont want to brick this, but im looking for a Stable ROM, where everything works, Id prefer one tweaked for speed and performance, but want my stock LG apps if possible, and wanting a different look....
I know I may not get all of these together, but can someone tell me what i can use and what i have to sacrifice / or gain from such??
Main goal is proper COMPATIBILITY and STABILITY for the most parts.....
Thanks