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[Q] OTA 4.4 back to 4.3

Can someone help me take my S4 back to 4.3? I got the OTA update for 4.4 yesterday morning and have had nothing but problems. Terrible battery life (40% down in 3 hours with little to no use) WiFi wont turn on thanks to this piece of junk Knox software. So before I dump Samsung completely for a Moto X or Nexus, can someone help me downgrade from 4.4 back to 4.3 where I had no problems?

Were you totally stock before the OTA? If you still have warranty left, I would bring it in to a Sprint store and *****.
If not, you can try one of 2 things. 1) flash the NAE tar file using odin to see if that fixes your issues or 2) flash the MK2 tar file to bring you back to 4.3

aypanthony said:
Were you totally stock before the OTA? If you still have warranty left, I would bring it in to a Sprint store and *****.
If not, you can try one of 2 things. 1) flash the NAE tar file using odin to see if that fixes your issues or 2) flash the MK2 tar file to bring you back to 4.3
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I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.

sponge14 said:
I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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You're correct with not being able to go back to mk2 4.3 via Odin.
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sponge14 said:
I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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Yeah, I think you are right. Can't go back to 4.3 once you have the 4.4 bootloader, my bad. I wonder if you should do a factory reset to see if that clears up your issues.

daniel4653 said:
You're correct with not being able to go back to mk2 4.3 via Odin.
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Is there some other way of downgrading? What about going back to Cyanogen's full release?

Well that sucks that you can't go back to 4.3

I had the same issues when I updated and was kinda pissed at it to but a factory reset and it been running way better ever since and I'm rooted with xposed installed and no complaints
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sponge14 said:
I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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I believe once KNOX Bootloader has been installed, your stuck with it. No going back.
But honestly, if you root 4.4, your gonna void KNOX.

lawmangrant said:
I believe once KNOX Bootloader has been installed, your stuck with it. No going back.
But honestly, if you root 4.4, your gonna void KNOX.
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I don't want Knox on my phone at all, it's garbage for me. Are you saying I can't even go Cyanogen at this point?

sponge14 said:
I don't want Knox on my phone at all, it's garbage for me. Are you saying I can't even go Cyanogen at this point?
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You can still have all that. KNOX is just the warrantly flag I have KNOX on mine, but I still have rooted and flashed other roms.

lawmangrant said:
You can still have all that. KNOX is just the warrantly flag I have KNOX on mine, but I still have rooted and flashed other roms.
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Ah OK, I don't care about the warranty, it's out in April anyways... Looks like I need to try Cyanogen again, hopefully it's better this time.

i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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chris-allen said:
i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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You're saying your bootloader went back to MK2 after this? Didn't think that was possible. I've had nothing but stupid little issues myself after using Odin to flash the phone to NAE. I've done factory resets... Completely wiped the phone in Philz. Tried KToonsez kernel as well and stock NAE just sux! I'll probably just flash Liquid Smooth back on it, was only trying to stick with stock NAE for stability and camera , that phone is my girls and she doesn't have the patience for all the bugs that come with custom Roms lol
Anyways just want to confirm that with you. Thanks
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chris-allen said:
i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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I don't know if that is possible for those of us rocking triband. Obviously we cannot use the Mk2 modem or rom. In any event, I upgraded to 4.4.2 on my new L720T and regretted it, but now I'v" managed to install twrp and rooted it and the rom settled down after a few days. At first, horrible battery use but now its amazing. My battery reads 75 percent after 14 hours and that's quite good enough. The only issue I still face is the SD card thing, but that only seems to apply third party software as I can move files directly from internal to external memory using the stock files app that comes with android.

i dont know about triband. i dont have one and im not going to pretend im a smart dev because thats also not true.. i HAVE ODIN 4.4.2 THEN turned around and ODIN 4.3 due to something i didnt like...im not sure if it changes the bootloader or not, i dont even check. i have only tried this with mk2 to nae.. when i purchesed my device it came with mk2 so i have never tinkerd with the other bootloaders. if you have something other then mk2 id ask a dev befor doing anything. like i said it works for me as long as i flash the modem FIRST that corrisponds to the build. ( mk2 or nae )...and in some cases if the wifi is borked on nae, iv had to flash the modem again after instalation of the rom.. i cant explain why any of this happens....
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chris-allen said:
i dont know about triband. i dont have one and im not going to pretend im a smart dev because thats also not true.. i HAVE ODIN 4.4.2 THEN turned around and ODIN 4.3 due to something i didnt like...im not sure if it changes the bootloader or not, i dont even check. i have only tried this with mk2 to nae.. when i purchesed my device it came with mk2 so i have never tinkerd with the other bootloaders. if you have something other then mk2 id ask a dev befor doing anything. like i said it works for me as long as i flash the modem FIRST that corrisponds to the build. ( mk2 or nae )...and in some cases if the wifi is borked on nae, iv had to flash the modem again after instalation of the rom.. i cant explain why any of this happens....
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Lol I know what you mean... Sometimes things just seem to work or they don't.
But that's interesting you can go back to mk2 after being on nae. I figured that was not possible. But if you didn't get any fails in Odin while downgrading that's great. Maybe I'll get ballsy and try this later.
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Is there a stock 4.4 Rom out there I can try, preferably one without Knox? Sprint has recommended that I unroot, that they have a tech bulletin where rooted phones have wifi, and other issues.

sponge14 said:
Is there a stock 4.4 Rom out there I can try, preferably one without Knox? Sprint has recommended that I unroot, that they have a tech bulletin where rooted phones have wifi, and other issues.
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You have a link to that bulletin??
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Mistertac said:
You have a link to that bulletin??
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No that's just what the escalated Tech Support person from Oklahoma City told me.
I also just wiped the cache and did a factory reset and still have the same wifi problem...

[Request] Update from NB1 to NC1

currently I am outside us i want NC1 Frimware to upgrade with out rooting my device
ٍSorry i but it on wrong place i want to move it to question sections i am sorry for that

The NC1 update is provided by your carrier. You should just be able to do a check for updates on your device and it'll find it. Please know that it's a very recent update and not much is known about how it affects custom ROMs or the rooting process. I updated to it and I'm waiting to see what the experts here say.
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5erv0 said:
The NC1 update is provided by your carrier. You should just be able to do a check for updates on your device and it'll find it. Please know that it's a very recent update and not much is known about how it affects custom ROMs or the rooting process. I updated to it and I'm waiting to see what the experts here say.
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My carrier is At&t and they don't allow any update out the US

There was another thread I posted this to but for some reason the OP wanted the thread deleted.
So here is the link to the file I was pushed.
https://mega.co.nz/#!oYp13KoL!iM-Wr_M4ix22OeLw6cne0G1WXH7BjuN9i0Fr995G6lQ
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0o0nano0o0 said:
My carrier is At&t and they don't allow any update out the US
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Currently living in Japan and my i337 took the 4.3 and 4.4 updates just fine prior to rooting.
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0o0nano0o0 said:
currently I am outside us i want NC1 Frimware to upgrade with out rooting my device
ٍSorry i but it on wrong place i want to move it to question sections i am sorry for that
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I honestly do not trust the update and I will explain. I believe the update was pushed to prevent us, the custom ROM users, from downgrading back to mf3. We all know that in mf3 there is an exploit where we can change the kernel inside the memory or something like that. I am rooted on nb1 and am running a bootloader that lets me downgrade back to mf3. It would make sense to me that they are trying to prevent that exploit. I know they probably fix a stability issue or something but I would not flash to nc1 if you don't want custom roms here in the near future.

braindead444 said:
I honestly do not trust the update and I will explain. I believe the update was pushed to prevent us, the custom ROM users, from downgrading back to mf3. We all know that in mf3 there is an exploit where we can change the kernel inside the memory or something like that. I am rooted on nb1 and am running a bootloader that lets me downgrade back to mf3. It would make sense to me that they are trying to prevent that exploit. I know they probably fix a stability issue or something but I would not flash to nc1 if you don't want custom roms here in the near future.
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We could never downgrade to mf3, only a partial downgrade to MK2 from nb1. And jeboo already said the nc1 bootloader does not increment the q fuse counter so you can still go back to nb1 if you want...

braindead444 said:
I honestly do not trust the update and I will explain. I believe the update was pushed to prevent us, the custom ROM users, from downgrading back to mf3. We all know that in mf3 there is an exploit where we can change the kernel inside the memory or something like that. I am rooted on nb1 and am running a bootloader that lets me downgrade back to mf3. It would make sense to me that they are trying to prevent that exploit. I know they probably fix a stability issue or something but I would not flash to nc1 if you don't want custom roms here in the near future.
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dmc2359 said:
We could never downgrade to mf3, only a partial downgrade to MK2 from nb1. And jeboo already said the nc1 bootloader does not increment the q fuse counter so you can still go back to nb1 if you want...
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On top of that, the exploit is at the kernel level. We can still get the MK2 kernel so we can still get the exploit. That's why bypasslkm still works on the downgrade.
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I was Odining back to stock MK2 and after it was finished I set it up then went outside real quick. Came back and phone said it was updated to this NC1 firmware and this happens when looks like potential progress on the "serious about unlocking bootloader" thread f u ATT.
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Thread moved :good:

raulz28 said:
I was Odining back to stock MK2 and after it was finished I set it up then went outside real quick. Came back and phone said it was updated to this NC1 firmware and this happens when looks like potential progress on the "serious about unlocking bootloader" thread f u ATT.
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Don't worry, chances are exploits will function still if one is found, and if Hashcode implements kexec you'll still be fine.

0o0nano0o0 said:
My carrier is At&t and they don't allow any update out the US
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I think you should be able to connect through a proxy and download the update over wifi that way. Note that the update will only work over WiFi... not mobile data. I hope you get it worked out.

CAG-man said:
There was another thread I posted this to but for some reason the OP wanted the thread deleted.
So here is the link to the file I was pushed.
https://mega.co.nz/#!oYp13KoL!iM-Wr_M4ix22OeLw6cne0G1WXH7BjuN9i0Fr995G6lQ
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Sir,
Download the OTA package I337UCUFNC1 19MB Zip File
This Link Not Working : https://mega.co.nz/#!oYp13KoL!iM-Wr_M4ix22OeLw6cne0G1WXH7BjuN9i0Fr995G6lQ
Unavailable To Download
Plz Give Fresh Link :
Plz Upload Official NC1 Update 19MB ... I Can't Download Plz Upload Another Link I Need Sir
Plz Help Me :crying:

Throwing in the towel, I need help.

Hey all, I just acquired the SGH-I337 as an upgrade to my Galaxy S3. I can not for the life of me get a custom ROM running on it. My goal is SlimKAT because I like the ROM and have been using it on every phone since my Samsung Vibrant. Any time I'm flashing something in ODIN that has anything to do with ABOOT, it fails, soft bricks the device, and I have to reflash in ODIN all over again.
Please let me know what information I can provide to help with this. I've never had so much trouble with a phone before.

zeusakatkm said:
Hey all, I just acquired the SGH-I337 as an upgrade to my Galaxy S3. I can not for the life of me get a custom ROM running on it. My goal is SlimKAT because I like the ROM and have been using it on every phone since my Samsung Vibrant. Any time I'm flashing something in ODIN that has anything to do with ABOOT, it fails, soft bricks the device, and I have to reflash in ODIN all over again.
Please let me know what information I can provide to help with this. I've never had so much trouble with a phone before.
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Please tell us the firmware of your phone (baseband, modem, etc..)
I337 has locked bootloader if your firmware is MF3 and above (MK2, NB1, NC1). You have to use the safestrap as a recovery if you want to flash the custom roms. If you want to flash SlimKAT you have to the SlimKAT safestrap version if they have one.

If he had to use Safestrap he can't use Slimkat as it's AOSP and he can't change the kernel. Chances are if he was getting issues flashing aboot then he's on a newer version. Confirm it in the about phone section of the settings though.
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I believe when I got the phone, it was updated all the way. Although I'm not entirely sure what the latest firmware is. I tried using Odin to go back, which worked sort of
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zeusakatkm said:
I believe when I got the phone, it was updated all the way. Although I'm not entirely sure what the latest firmware is. I tried using Odin to go back, which worked sort of
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You can't go back to older bootloaders ever. Sounds like you are updated to something that you can't flash custom anything to. So safestrap is the only way to go with modded touchwiz based roms.
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drock212 said:
You can't go back to older bootloaders ever. Sounds like you are updated to something that you can't flash custom anything to. So safestrap is the only way to go with modded touchwiz based roms.
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I was able to successfully unbrick the phone by using Odin to get it to MK2, although Wifi didn't work. Now I'm trying to get it back to the latest firmware so that I can sell it.
UPDATE!
Phone had been successfully reflashed to firmware NB1, with everything seemingly working. This phone seems so much more complicated than the S3 was, thanks locked bootloader.

zeusakatkm said:
I was able to successfully unbrick the phone by using Odin to get it to MK2, although Wifi didn't work. Now I'm trying to get it back to the latest firmware so that I can sell it.
UPDATE!
Phone had been successfully reflashed to firmware NB1, with everything seemingly working. This phone seems so much more complicated than the S3 was, thanks locked bootloader.
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use this to get to the NB1 firmware then take the NC1 OTA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674223

shamelin73 said:
use this to get to the NB1 firmware then take the NC1 OTA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674223
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Does it matter if I use the rootable version?

I would use the non root one then let phone take the NC1 OTA update.
That shod give you a clean slate to sell the phone or you can root NC1 with towelroot
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I've already flashed the stock one, but it says there is no software update available

I've already flashed the stock one, but it says there is no software update available
UPDATE!
Success! I am successfully running this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767026

[Q] Updated to 4.4.2 KitKat any Rom suggestions?

I recently updated to 4.4.2 KitKat on my AT&T Galaxy S4. I am rooted with safestrap installed. I am new to Androids and I was wondering if there were any roms available for baseband I337UCUFNB1, I found GoldenEye but it won't work on my baseband without a certain file being flashed through Odin first, every link I have come across to download this file ends up saying file not found. Are there any safe roms out there that I can use? I've searched all over and found some, but it's just kind of confusing to me. Thanks in advance!

If you haven't already you should start here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758227
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Yea i've been there, I'm just really confused on the whole process is all. It says something about going from NB1 to NC1, but the roms it lists aren't for either one of those basebands but it still says they'll work. I don't know if I want to risk it lol

sikeward81 said:
Yea i've been there, I'm just really confused on the whole process is all. It says something about going from NB1 to NC1, but the roms it lists aren't for either one of those basebands but it still says they'll work. I don't know if I want to risk it lol
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You're not going to brick your device. You may have to Odin back to nb1 in the worst case. Do the ota to nc1 and root with towel root. Then use safestrap.
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jd1639 said:
You're not going to brick your device. You may have to Odin back to nb1 in the worst case. Do the ota to nc1 and root with towel root. Then use safestrap.
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Ok...i'll give it a shot i guess lol...i was just worried about bricking is all.
thanks for the help! :good:

[Q] Galaxy s4 in a weird Not-Rooted/Rooted state

I recently rooted my Galaxy S4 using the Towel Root method. but a week ago or so while driving ATT forced an update and updated to the new version. The problem is I do not have Root active, but I can't use certain apps due to getting a message saying that they can't be used on a Rooted device. I am not sure how to remove this odd state I am in. Has anyone had this issue and know how to remove it?
Device: Samsung Galaxy S4
Carrier: AT&T
Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
Android Version 4.4.2
Build Number: KOT49.I337UCUFNI1

darxval said:
I recently rooted my Galaxy S4 using the Towel Root method. but a week ago or so while driving ATT forced an update and updated to the new version. The problem is I do not have Root active, but I can't use certain apps due to getting a message saying that they can't be used on a Rooted device. I am not sure how to remove this odd state I am in. Has anyone had this issue and know how to remove it?
Device: Samsung Galaxy S4
Carrier: AT&T
Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
Android Version 4.4.2
Build Number: KOT49.I337UCUFNI1
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What is it that you really want - to regain root or to unroot?
1. To regain root - read the root section of All Things AT&T thread
2. To unroot
a. Without losing data -- I am not sure exactly how to do this
One way would be to re-root and then unroot using the superSu app.
b. With losing data -- Oding NB1 stock and update to latest. Follow Return to Stock

I would like to have it go back to unrooted status. I was hoping for a data safe method. But at this point whichever will work. I am assuming i'll have to root, then unroot. But I didnt know if this causes problem as apps believe it to be rooted but the system says I am not.

I'm having the same dilemma
I rooted my s4 using towelroot. Later att forced an update to 4.4.2 which i thought wouldn't work because it was tooted. But it actually did work and updated. Now the phone is not rooted but it seems that there are some files that are still somewhere that pretty much makes it be partially rooted but with not real root access. Now that the next update is being forced by att for version 4.4.4 it doesn't work. It stores installing at 27% with a failed message. I uninstalled towel root and super user but with no success. I whiped the partition and no success. I did a factory reset which i thought it would work and remove the files that maked look rooted and no success. What should i do exactly to unroot it?

JaureguiRoberto said:
I rooted my s4 using towelroot. Later att forced an update to 4.4.2 which i thought wouldn't work because it was tooted. But it actually did work and updated. Now the phone is not rooted but it seems that there are some files that are still somewhere that pretty much makes it be partially rooted but with not real root access. Now that the next update is being forced by att for version 4.4.4 it doesn't work. It stores installing at 27% with a failed message. I uninstalled towel root and super user but with no success. I whiped the partition and no success. I did a factory reset which i thought it would work and remove the files that maked look rooted and no success. What should i do exactly to unroot it?
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You could use Odin since nothing else is working
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jd1639 said:
You could use Odin since nothing else is working
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What version of odin? Is there a link with special instructions for this situation? Will i be using odin to install 4.4.2 again? Or 4.4.4? Is there a direct link for at&t 4.4.4 so i can install using odin?
Thanks

JaureguiRoberto said:
What version of odin? Is there a link with special instructions for this situation? Will i be using odin to install 4.4.2 again? Or 4.4.4? Is there a direct link for at&t 4.4.4 so i can install using odin?
Thanks
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You would have to Odin the nb1 tar file, it's the only version that exists. Then ota to 4.4.4, nj4. Any version of Odin works. It will wipe your device and you'll have to start over setting it up.
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jd1639 said:
You could use Odin since nothing else is working
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jd1639 said:
You would have to Odin the nb1 tar file, it's the only version that exists. Then ota to 4.4.4, nj4. Any version of Odin works. It will wipe your device and you'll have to start over setting it up.
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Thank you i will start looking for the files.

JaureguiRoberto said:
Thank you i will start looking for the files.
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Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56453100
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