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Some Pictures Taken by X10i

I already sold my X10i, and I would like to share some pictures I captured using X10i earlier, they are not professional, but they are much better then Neo V cam (which is 5MP), Now I am thinking about Neo which also have 8MP Cam, but if its better ?
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150430328547952.415528.780557951&type=3

what camera settings did ya use sick pics

looking good
nice pictures bro!

huzi7868 said:
what camera settings did ya use sick pics
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Just used Landscape mode, focus infinity and no stabilizing, nothing special !
Matthyzz said:
nice pictures bro!
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Thanks

zmbutt said:
focus infinity and no stabilizing, nothing special
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yeah, those settings are the best, overall i like the photos taken with my x10 but wish it had better lens though.
My old Olympus camera produced some stunning pictures even at a meager 3 megapixel because it packed Carl Zeiss lens. the most tempting thing for me about the Nokia lumia 900 is it's Carl Zeiss camera.
some pics taken from my x10, the second one with Panorama beta, the others with stock and miui camera.

a.monteiro said:
some pics taken from my x10, the second one with Panorama beta, the others with stock and miui camera.
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Good novice level !

Here are some from me, these are showing focused pics. And lol at third one xD
All are at 6MP 16:9 widescreen, Single Auto-focus.
PlantFocus1
Plantfocus2
Playing BF3lolwut
I'm gonna try that Infinity focus and no image stabilizing.

I think , only difference neo camera in low light condition taken photo , other stiuation X10 beats ... Here is some examples

ItBankRock said:
Here are some from me, these are showing focused pics. And lol at third one xD
All are at 6MP 16:9 widescreen, Single Auto-focus.
PlantFocus1
Plantfocus2
Playing BF3lolwut
I'm gonna try that Infinity focus and no image stabilizing.
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that's Impressive
mundy725 said:
I think , only difference neo camera in low light condition taken photo , other stiuation X10 beats ... Here is some examples
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you mean by Neo V, yea disappointed ...

zmbutt said:
you mean by Neo V, yea disappointed ...
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Well, i used Neo camera , and compare it with x10 in my opinion, only in low light condition neo camera is much better take photos, in light condition , x10 much better , no difference , abt neo v , i didnt used that but , xperia mini i used, it is also 5 mp camera , comparing with other 5mp cameras it takes nice photos , but in details not so deeply, only generally takes ... via taken photos sometimes i used lens , some macro or other ... size of photos increase up stock kamera 4 -4.5 mb sometimes , in vignnette app, it 2x more , up to 8 mb ... i looking a way to increase video bitrate also , max is 49.5 mb per minute

I see, I thought Neo might have good camera than X10 well that's more disappointing, I was thinking about to buy Neo ! huh.

zmbutt said:
I see, I thought Neo might have good camera than X10 well that's more disappointing, I was thinking about to buy Neo ! huh.
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Well, there some things , i also disappointing , if SE use same Exmor R camera in Neo and Xperia Ray , why only ARC and ARC S win cameraphone 2011-2012 ? Also in here Neo is cheaper than X10 difference btw them about over 60 dollar. in price ...

SP Camera Discussion & your views.

So What you think about your SP camera . is it good, avg or below avg .
comment on this thread and share your views , and also some reasons for your views

for me its good but it needs some fixes like noise reduction and most impotently highly oversaturated colors some time . in macro mode, pictures behind the main object are noisy (not blurry) and pics in low light with flash, are so yellowish

I think photos in low-light cause white objects to turn out greenish. Also, the camera app or something automatically sharpens the image, making it look unnaturally sharp and blotchy when zoomed in. Would like more controls to turn this sharpen on and off, as well as a 'set' mode for the white balance.
The camera button always opens the camera app in a 'default' mode and doesn't remember any previous settings too, so I always have to open from the app drawer to make sure premium auto isn't set.
Does anyone notice any differences with image stabilization turned on or off?

Theres the good:
http://i.imgur.com/jiZ6U0J.jpg
The "pretty decent":
http://i.imgur.com/cND6Yy3.jpg
The alright:
http://i.imgur.com/B0NGRtU.jpg
And the bad:
http://i.imgur.com/1JZYaFA.jpg
Overall i'd say if you value the camera a lot don't buy this, but if you don't take pictures every day this is fine

Sinse Exmor R sensors on iPhone 4s/5, S3 and Note 2 are excellent, the Exmor RS sensor inside SP should be better, but Sony software ruins it.

As long as there's a lot of light the camera is great but when it gets dark the camera captures too much noise
Sent from my C5303 using xda premium

compare my own Xperia Ray & SP.
finding SP sucks.

Views on Xperia SP Camera
Positives:
Vivid colors
good camera UI and lots of effects,options
HD Video recording quality is good
seperate hardware 2-stage shutter key, instant photos from sleep
'Document mode' is wonderful-text in magazine pages/books are captured sharply
Negatives
Noise- all pictures have noise other than those with bright light
Previewing a taken photo and getting back to shooting mode takes long time(lag?)
no Burst mode
HDR mode is overly-artificial
very poor 'Low light' shots
Overall, SP's camera is good for day-to-day use but not exceptional and I will need to carry my digital camera for vacations

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camera comparison between Xperia L , Galaxy Maga 5.8 and SP . results are so bad for 8mp camera of SP compared to its price
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=5363&idPhone2=5396&idPhone3=5364

xPeRiA_RaVi said:
camera comparison between Xperia L , Galaxy Maga 5.8 and SP . results are so bad for 8mp camera of SP compared to its price
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=5363&idPhone2=5396&idPhone3=5364
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L performing better than SP, lol sony

It's a phone, not a camera.
Sent from my C5303 using Tapatalk 2

technaudio said:
It's a phone, not a camera.
Sent from my C5303 using Tapatalk 2
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Agree with you. Please stop complaining about the camera guys.. If u need a better camera phone go for ZR or Z.
Even Xperia S have 12 MP camera and its sucks. . .
For that price the camera is ok for SP. Pls stop complaining...
And pls dont blame me anyone because of this comment.. If any one do that means i will forget XDA rules...

rajeevxperia said:
Agree with you. Please stop complaining about the camera guys.. If u need a better camera phone go for ZR or Z.
Even Xperia S have 12 MP camera and its sucks. . .
For that price the camera is ok for SP. Pls stop complaining...
And pls dont blame me anyone because of this comment.. If any one do that means i will forget XDA rules...
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The camera is worse than the camera on older devices with the same price and devices with cheaper prices too so I disagree
Sony has a long history with digital cameras AND has also made the Exmor RS sensor, so they should have known what they were doing on the camera
You can see the comparisson here: http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=4134&idPhone2=5364&idPhone3=4238
Arc S - old and cheaper
S3 - old and only slightly more expensive
Also, if you just want a "phone" you should really just get a $20 one because that makes calls and sends text messages too, as you don't seem to want extra functionalities

ZakooZ said:
The camera is worse than the camera on older devices with the same price and devices with cheaper prices too so I disagree
Sony has a long history with digital cameras AND has also made the Exmor RS sensor, so they should have known what they were doing on the camera
You can see the comparisson here: http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=4134&idPhone2=5364&idPhone3=4238
Arc S - old and cheaper
S3 - old and only slightly more expensive
Also, if you just want a "phone" you should really just get a $20 one because that makes calls and sends text messages too, as you don't seem to want extra functionalities
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Ha ha .. I agree. I dont want to fight here.. Because i am not a photographer. I bought this phone for Gaming and other stuff. Because i am a mad gamer.. And i am not taking photos much. So dont care about it..
May be sony will do a software update for this... I hope so....
And i am not disappointed with the price bro. Because i got it for 19500 Indian Ruppes.. No bill and warrenty..
Any way my wishes for u guys for a better camera update from Sony soon....

The update for the Z made my phone so much better, so I hope the SP will get a similar tweak soon.
I've had one update so far on my SP (review phone from Sony) but can't see any change to the camera, and it still has the grey background.
I am sure the camera can be made good. Stick with it!

Today I went to pay my phone bill and a Sony guy was in the carrer's store (Telcel, MX). We spent about 30 minutes comparing and testing the ZL against the SP.
Both phones feel the same weight on the hand, not too much difference between the 1080P screen on the ZL from the 720P on the SP. And most important: Camera SUCKS on the ZL I know it's software problem, the SP on Superior Auto offered better ilumination on the same picture. I don't use Superior Auto, "Normal" mode works a lot better for me.
ZL wins in IR LED, bigger screen and Quad core performance...but let's keep in mind this: The SP is a mid-range phone that can compete with last year flagships.

As I said, the Z had an update to massively improve the camera. Maybe the ZL you saw hadn't had this update?
But I would say the SP is an excellent phone for the money. SIM free in the UK from Clove, you can get it for £300. Most high end models will be £500-600 so that's a big saving.
My wife thinks the Z is too big and loves the SP, so I expect Sony should sell a fair few of them.

can someone upload SemcCameraUI.apk

levered said:
can someone upload SemcCameraUI.apk
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SemcCameraUI.apk from SP

Average
Though SP's camera does good in good lighting, in low light the images are downright bad. Superior auto is actually the worse performer than the normal mode. All these just don't cut for a device in it's price range. Hope a software update resolves the issue.
I still went for SP due to its Processor & GPU. It blows S3 & One X/X+ in benchmarks, gaming, web browsing etc. And besides one better use a good digicam for nice pics. The indoor party shots would be "ok" at best with any other camera phone unless its Nokia's PureView.

Camera quality

Hi everyone, I've been reading around a bit about the Z2 camera and I'm finding some very conflicting opinions. GSMarena did a camera shootout not too long ago for which I'm pretty sure the Z2 came last or at least did horribly. (http://www.gsmarena.com/camera_shootout-review-1104.php) What makes this interesting is that DXOmark (http://www.dxomark.com/Phones/Sony-...ed-model-takes-first-place-in-Mobile-rankings) did a review on the Z2 camera and it scored quite highly. Am I missing something here? I don't think the stills are amazing to be honest and I mostly use superior auto. Is superior auto just garbage?

Camera has been improved with the new 4.4.4 Android update.Second of all,yes - Superior Auto is complete crap to be honest.The real deal is shooting in Manual Mode.So you need to play with the camera options abit to achieve the shot you want to see.Apart of that i don't beleave that the scores from dxomark are true.Sony has a crappy software (we all know that),so if u have time to shoot something - do it on manual. You will be surprised with the results.Use superior when u need to take a fast shot only.

effective said:
Camera has been improved with the new 4.4.4 Android update.Second of all,yes - Superior Auto is complete crap to be honest.The real deal is shooting in Manual Mode.So you need to play with the camera options abit to achieve the shot you want to see.Apart of that i don't beleave that the scores from dxomark are true.Sony has a crappy software (we all know that),so if u have time to shoot something - do it on manual. You will be surprised with the results.Use superior when u need to take a fast shot only.
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Hi friend,
you tell that Sony has a crappy camera software... Its true but can we solve problem using another camera software and which software... ?
Maybe Google camera app or... What is your favorite camera app ?
Greetings from Serbia.

mimahitna said:
Hi friend,
you tell that Sony has a crappy camera software... Its true but can we solve problem using another camera software and which software... ?
Maybe Google camera app or... What is your favorite camera app ?
Greetings from Serbia.
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Well you can try by yourself and decide which one fits you the best..Personaly i use the stock app using Manual mode.Other good apps are Camera 51 , ProCapture camera , LGcamera. Try them and decide. Cheers :highfive:

effective said:
Well you can try by yourself and decide which one fits you the best..Personaly i use the stock app using Manual mode.Other good apps are Camera 51 , ProCapture camera , LGcamera. Try them and decide. Cheers :highfive:
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Thanks man.

I have to admit this the Z2 is horrible under use of Superiour Auto however manual mode with correct settings, this camera will eat others
I recomend using the stock camera

Envious_Data said:
I have to admit this the Z2 is horrible under use of Superiour Auto however manual mode with correct settings, this camera will eat others
I recomend using the stock camera
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Hi.
Where i can find a guide like that?
Because i try to use my camera with superior auto and the taken pics doesn't look good.

avercros said:
Hi.
Where i can find a guide like that?
Because i try to use my camera with superior auto and the taken pics doesn't look good.
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I dont know of any guides
Try googling words you dont know such as:
Exposure
ISO
Metering
White balance
Anything else you dont understand
I usualy like to use these settings:
ISO400(always)
Metering: Spot or multi
2MP size
Apropriate exposure and white balance
Flash i try to keep off

Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
Just see.
My opinion: currently Z2 Camera is amazing, in Manual Mode.
Recommended.
See more on my Flickr, here is the example:
Luzern bridge by doministry, on Flickr

mimahitna said:
Hi friend,
you tell that Sony has a crappy camera software... Its true but can we solve problem using another camera software and which software... ?
Maybe Google camera app or... What is your favorite camera app ?
Greetings from Serbia.
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Sony only pretends to allow other apps to take control of for example ISO (FV-5 Camera comes up in my mind in particular), but doesn't do so. The onyl camera, which really can use manual settings like ISO from user is crappy Sony Camera app unfortunately. We should all pray for Sony not screwing up 5.0 update with all it' new camera APIs being open.

So it seems to be unanimous that superior auto is crap, I'll start using manual then from now on
Thanks guys!

Z3 Compact no focus when close / macro [VIDEO]

Watch video below
The focus when close or macro is perfect with all smartphones (standard, Zenfone 2, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, ...) but with the Z3 Compact... look :
VIDEO:
drive.google.com/file/d/0B_nG40-uFJh7NUk0WTlMWTBjcVU/view?usp=sharing
Am I alone with this issue ?
Is it normal ?
Software or hardware ?
Can you try and tell me?
Thanks

I do not have any issues with close up or macro photos, they work perfectly fine, in fact, i find it working better then on any iphone or samsung ive tried so far...

bubimir13 said:
I do not have any issues with close up or macro photos, they work perfectly fine, in fact, i find it working better then on any iphone or samsung ive tried so far...
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Really???
Can you post a close macro sample of a key on your keyboard please. Like in my video.
Thanks

you cannot have the lens has close, but with the amount of details you'll still have a better macro than the older camera
this is because of the f2.2 lens
the z3 tends to indeed take better macro shots than the competition (yay! one thing the camera does sort of decent).. but yeah you cant stick the camera too close like you would with another phone. i know, it feels "unnatural" but try 1 more centimer away and compare the resulting picture instead
quick demo:
lens too close: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAOJA/qfnJKKFHX6Q/w1525-h858-no/DSC_1097.JPG
lens 1 cm away: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAOJQ/3eElMevMZ3g/w1525-h858-no/DSC_1098.JPG
/me goes clean this keyboard now

Thanks man, your pictures have the same "problem" of mine. So it's not a problem with my Z3C but it's normal for all models.
But I am a little sad about that because YES the pictures are good but when I see the PERFECT focus at 2cm with a 200$ phone... and my Z3C completly blur at the same distance... I don't understand.
I'm not here for know if the Z3C is a good phone or not... but only for know if when you watch my video (1sr post) and ou try to take the same picture thad me in the video, you have the same blur result ?
But anyway I saw your sample and you have same pictures than me. Thanks for help and taking pictures for me man
EDIT:
Look! That AWESOME focus of my chinese basic phone vs. Z3 Compact at the SAME distance :'(
uprapide.com/images/invite/img-20150604-051342.jpg
uprapide.com/images/invite/dsc-0031_11.jpg
If someone can try the same with money at the same distance and post result, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
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you cant at same distance, other phone prolly has a f2.0 lens
since its higher mp it doesnt matter if u go back a centimer tho

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you cant at same distance, other phone prolly has a f2.0 lens
since its higher mp it doesnt matter if u go back a centimer tho
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So when you see my two pictures, the difference, you have (and all Z3C) the same thing ?
Nobody can with Z3C take a picture of money at the same distance than me in my sample?
other phone prolly has a f2.0 lens ? So the Z3C doesn't ?

Z3 has a f2.2 Lens
And nope cant take picture that close but if i take it further away and zoom it looks the same
I can take that pic on my z1c (f2.0 lens) hehe

Thank you

New way to take great photos with absurde quality (.PNG)

Hey everyone.
Today I searched in store some kind of camera app with macro focus feature (too bad Sony Camera lacks this.)
So I came across Camera FV-5. Nice interface, but still a Sony UI fan. Anyway, besides the macro focus, under Settings I found the option to save pictures as .PNG.
I knew it has a better compression, almost lossless, compared to the common and easy-to-process .JPEG, so I took one photo outside (ISO 50, AutoFocus, a bit lowered exposure) and one indoor (without flash, yellow/orange 60W lightbulb as source of light in the room, same settings as above.)
I was pretty impressed by the quality. It takes some time to process the image fully, Album firstly doesn't even recognize the photo as existent. Afterwards, it takes ages to load the cache when double-tap zoom.
Anyway, see how nice, crisp and clear photos our phones can take - with absolute no post-editing.
Taken with Z3 Compact with Cyberian Camera MOD.
BTW, the files are huge. One is 21.7 MB and the other over 25. That means 1 pixel is over 1 byte. Cool.
OUTSIDE VIEW
INSIDE ENERGY BAR

Wow - that shot of the candy bar is VERY impressive. Too bad the file size is so ridiculously large. Can you show us the same picture taken using the Sony Superior Auto Mode (8MP)?

PuffDaddy_d said:
Can you show us the same picture taken using the Sony Superior Auto Mode (8MP)?
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I've attached 8MP and 20 MP versions, Superior Auto Mode.
And thanks to Cyberian MOD, I'm lucky to have macro auto-scene on 20MP also.
Also, massive improvement in quality overall, the Z5 Camera libs really work great.

Now that I can see them side by side, it still appears that the Sony camera app reduces noise better than the 3rd party app. I had a similar experience in a comparison thread I created a while back as well.
Sent from the only flagship phone that actually fits in my hand... The Sony Xperia Z3 Compact

weekender90 said:
I've attached 8MP and 20 MP versions, Superior Auto Mode.
And thanks to Cyberian MOD, I'm lucky to have macro auto-scene on 20MP also.
Also, massive improvement in quality overall, the Z5 Camera libs really work great.
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Not bad for a macro shot. Here's mine using the Slim Rom i been using for couple of months.
I just used the sony camera with z5 camera libs, set to auto 8MP (4:3).

yoorie016 said:
Not bad for a macro shot. Here's mine using the Slim Rom i been using for couple of months.
I just used the sony camera with z5 camera libs, set to auto 8MP (4:3).
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Oh my god, I'm in love with your photos...
Gonna flash this today and compare the results very strictly before and after flashing

romcio47 said:
Oh my god, I'm in love with your photos...
Gonna flash this today and compare the results very strictly before and after flashing
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Thanks I didn't make any tweaks, i just used the auto and set the aspect ration to 4:3.
here's another one, and saved on JPEG format.

Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6

jody2k said:
Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
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So stock camera is now better?

doriandiaconu said:
So stock camera is now better?
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No i mean with open camera or snap camera its waayy better than stock camera

jody2k said:
No i mean with open camera or snap camera its waayy better than stock camera
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What rom are you using?
Sent from my D5803 using XDA Free mobile app

jody2k said:
Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
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I have a hard time agreeing with you. I tried to compare the stock camera software to various 3rd party software (including Open Camera) and the results indicated that Sony's produces better images:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/sonys-camera-isnt-worse-t3102790