On January 24th, 2014, I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile mainly for the price. T-Mobile is sending me a reimbursement for the early termination fee that Verizon charged.
T-Mobile service in my area isn't as good as Verizon and AT&T and I want to switch to AT&T and use my LG G2 that I got from T-Mobile.
I am planning to switch very soon after I receive the ETF reimbursement in the mail.
Will there be any problems with using my T-Mobile LG G2 when I change to AT&T? I have seen some specifications and saw some differences between the T-Mobile and AT&T G2's. Will I still be able to get good AT&T service with the T-Mobile version of the G2? I entered the IMEI# on AT&T site and it shows it's compatible, but was just wondering if it is going to have limitations.
I'm wondering if I should just sell my T-Moble LG G2 when I switch to AT&T and just buy a new phone(possibly an AT&T LG G2)
I use my T-Mobile LG g2 without any problems on AT&T. I did the exact same thing you are doing
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kmp542 said:
I use my T-Mobile LG g2 without any problems on AT&T. I did the exact same thing you are doing
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Thank you for the reply, are you able to get 4G LTE data and get the same voice signal as you would on the AT&T version of the phone? I just don't want to get worse service than I would get if I got the AT&T version of the phone.
tarheeltx said:
On January 24th, 2014, I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile mainly for the price. T-Mobile is sending me a reimbursement for the early termination fee that Verizon charged.
T-Mobile service in my area isn't as good as Verizon and AT&T and I want to switch to AT&T and use my LG G2 that I got from T-Mobile.
I am planning to switch very soon after I receive the ETF reimbursement in the mail.
Will there be any problems with using my T-Mobile LG G2 when I change to AT&T? I have seen some specifications and saw some differences between the T-Mobile and AT&T G2's. Will I still be able to get good AT&T service with the T-Mobile version of the G2? I entered the IMEI# on AT&T site and it shows it's compatible, but was just wondering if it is going to have limitations.
I'm wondering if I should just sell my T-Moble LG G2 when I switch to AT&T and just buy a new phone(possibly an AT&T LG G2)
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Wait did you just say "AT&T and I want to switch to AT&T..."? Lol. How did that convo go? You: "T-Mobile is jank! Why didn't I check coverage before I did this!?" AT&T: "Idk! Come to our network! Its what the cool kids do!" You "I don't know..." AT&T: "Oh come on! Do it! I want you too!" You: "Okay!!" And... scene.
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The tmobile G2 is lacking LTE band 5 which AT&T uses. However my understanding is that AT&T had not deployed band 5 in many areas so there should be no issues.
I am considering doing the same.
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I used my G2 on att and got LTE. You'll have to input the APN, but a quick Google search will help you find that. You'll have to pay the phone off or it will get blacklisted and you'll have to get T-Mobile to unlock it which shouldn't be hard once you pay it off.
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I use my T-Mobile LG g2 without any problems on AT&T. I did the exact same thing you are doing
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sorry it looks like this message was months ago, but I want to ask what APN you used to get AT&T LTE to work on the D801. I tried various APNs I found from google searches and I was not able to connect. Using the 'phone' APN, 3G HSPA connects and the data works (a bit slow in my opinion, much slower than t-mobile). I changed the APN from 'phone' to 'pta' and it doesn't connect to anything anymore.
Furthermore, I went to the network settings to choose the network manually. The phone sees both T-mobile and AT&T for GSM, WCDMA, and LTE. When I choose AT&T LTE, it says that it cannot register. The WCDMA and automatically connect choices registers properly. I tried this for both APNs 'phone' and 'pta'. I also saw on some websites 'wap.cingular' and another APN I can't recall right now, so I tried those an no luck finding LTE on AT&T.
yes, this phone works on LTE and WCDMA on T-mobile. The phone was advertised as unlocked and it does work with AT&T 3G. The phone should support AT&T LTE on 700mhz, 1700mhz, and 1900mhz. I live in the Boston area, so I should be able to get one of these LTE signals...
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Is there any reason that the VZN rom had greyed out GSM settings. Does this mean that there are antennas that can be enabled with drivers or a SIM from ATT or TMobile?
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The phone is a world phone which means you can put in any gsm SIM card and it will work with the Bands that the phone is equipped with. I have used it on T-Mobile and metropcs successfully so far.
Also the area is greyed out because Verizon doesn't have a gsm network for cellular use. Yet. Their LTE is deployed over gsm but it is data only.
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craigbailey1986 said:
The phone is a world phone which means you can put in any gsm SIM card and it will work with the Bands that the phone is equipped with. I have used it on T-Mobile and metropcs successfully so far.
Also the area is greyed out because Verizon doesn't have a gsm network for cellular use. Yet. Their LTE is deployed over gsm but it is data only.
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you getting 4g and lte or 4g?
I get 4g h+ where T-Mobile has upgraded their towers.
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Verizon would have GSM settings grayed out because it is not applicable to their network at all. The phone would come carrier locked so if you pop a sim card in from say TMobile then the phone still wont work. However if you were to unlock the phone (currently illegal last I heard, might change in a year or so though) it should theoretically work on ATT and TMobile and other GSM networks, although you may or may not have to manually input APN settings to get the network data working. The stock Verizon ROM though may also not include drivers for activating those radios bands wither, IDK if that is something they would do or not. All the versions of this phone use the Snapdragon 800 chipset, which has built in radios that can hit basically any network's frequency in the world.
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Verizon would have GSM settings grayed out because it is not applicable to their network at all. The phone would come carrier locked so if you pop a sim card in from say TMobile then the phone still wont work. However if you were to unlock the phone (currently illegal last I heard, might change in a year or so though) it should theoretically work on ATT and TMobile and other GSM networks, although you may or may not have to manually input APN settings to get the network data working. The stock Verizon ROM though may also not include drivers for activating those radios bands wither, IDK if that is something they would do or not. All the versions of this phone use the Snapdragon 800 chipset, which has built in radios that can hit basically any network's frequency in the world.
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This is completely and I mean completely wrong! ALL VERIZON LTE PHONES ARE UNLOCKED...... Which is why they are called world phones because you can,travel the world with them switching SIM cards and still have Verizon. I personally have done this with gs4, note2, droid maxx, motox, and now the lgg2
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craigbailey1986 said:
This is completely and I mean completely wrong! ALL VERIZON LTE PHONES ARE UNLOCKED...... Which is why they are called world phones because you can,travel the world with them switching SIM cards and still have Verizon. I personally have done this with gs4, note2, droid maxx, motox, and now the lgg2
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Well at most only a small part of what I said is wrong so thanks for trying to correct me in in a very dickish way. Unfortunately you are also wrong, not all Verizon phones come unlocked from them.
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AT&T will let you unlock your device permanently, provided your contract has already expired. AT&T customers still on contract may unlock their devices up to five times per year (for international travel purposes), as long as they don’t owe any past-due amount on their accounts, and have been a customer for 60 days or more.
Verizon sells all iPhone 5s unlocked, meaning you could take your device over to AT&T or T-Mobile without having to unlock the device. But other devices, like the Samsung Galaxy S3, are locked by Verizon. However, like AT&T, customers in good standing can request to have their devices unlocked for international travel.
Sprint does not offer unlocked devices, but it will allow customers to unlock their devices for travel after three months with the carrier.
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All verizon LTE devices are unlocked out the box... wasn't being a. .... despite your assumptions the gs3 is unlocked so is all their world phones. And I never said all their phones were unlocked I stated all lte devices which are world phones are unlocked out the box. I currently have every phone that has come out since the gs3 and all work on T-Mobile with no call to verizon. But I am not going to argue about it. My apologies to the op simply stating what I know is true...
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Use a vzw on at&t
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All verizon LTE devices are unlocked out the box... wasn't being a. .... despite your assumptions the gs3 is unlocked so is all their world phones. And I never said all their phones were unlocked I stated all lte devices which are world phones are unlocked out the box. I currently have every phone that has come out since the gs3 and all work on T-Mobile with no call to verizon. But I am not going to argue about it. My apologies to the op simply stating what I know is true...
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Can you use a vs980 vzw lg g2 on at&t's network have it work properly and get 4g lte coverage?
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Can you use a vs980 vzw lg g2 on at&t's network have it work properly and get 4g lte coverage?
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The Verizon G2 supports the LTE bands 4 and 13.
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The Verizon G2 supports the LTE bands 4 and 13.
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Forgive me, but i dont know what that means lol.
I just got this unlocked verizon g2 and am using it on att, I can't get lte but I was seeing if there's a way to enable aws on it? I really like this phone but this slow data is killing me
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MrPlNK said:
I just got this unlocked verizon g2 and am using it on att, I can't get lte but I was seeing if there's a way to enable aws on it? I really like this phone but this slow data is killing me
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AT&T doesn't use AWS, except in very very VERY few areas, and only for LTE. They use 700 MHz. Verizon uses 750 MHz.
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AT&T doesn't use AWS, except in very very VERY few areas, and only for LTE. They use 700 MHz. Verizon uses 750 MHz.
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But Verizon is starting to activate their AWS spectrum in "major metropolitan areas" but there are conflicting reports in regards to the Verizon variant of the G2 and AWS.
Especially since most recent Verizon LTE phones can access the spectrum yet it hasn't been confirmed for the G2.
Do you understand what AWS is though? It's just 1700/2100 MHz together. AT&T doesn't use it (except as I said in like less than 1% of their LTE areas). AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz for HSPA+ ("4G") and 700 MHz for LTE (which Verizon devices don't do).
AWS is what T-Mobile uses for LTE though, so you'd be able to get T-Mobile's LTE out of the box.
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But lemme get one thing straight, can the phones run at these frequencies if a different modem flashed or what? Anyway this isnt going to be an issue for me because im buying an att variant and selling my Verizon variant
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But lemme get one thing straight, can the phones run at these frequencies if a different modem flashed or what? Anyway this isnt going to be an issue for me because im buying an att variant and selling my Verizon variant
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No, it's more than just the modem file. Like you said, just go and buy the AT&T (or T-Mobile) version. The T-Mobile version will work on AT&T fully as well.
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No, it's more than just the modem file. Like you said, just go and buy the AT&T (or T-Mobile) version. The T-Mobile version will work on AT&T fully as well.
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Than its different hardware?
Also, T-Mobile variant will work on AT&T LTE?
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Need to know if tmobile variant will work on att lte out of box, about to go meet up with someone who has one and id rather not waste anyone's time..
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Need to know if tmobile variant will work on att lte out of box, about to go meet up with someone who has one and id rather not waste anyone's time..
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I posted before that, yes, a T-Mobile device will fully work on AT&T with LTE and everything. If you don't have LTE on it when you put the SIM in, call up AT&T and tell them to turn on LTE on your account (if you've never had an LTE device on your AT&T account before).
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I posted before that, yes, a T-Mobile device will fully work on AT&T with LTE and everything. If you don't have LTE on it when you put the SIM in, call up AT&T and tell them to turn on LTE on your account (if you've never had an LTE device on your AT&T account before).
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Ive had lte phones since they came out, i just havent seen anything about it but you saying itll work. I just dont want to be stuck in the same position i am now with this Verizon phone
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Ive had lte phones since they came out, i just havent seen anything about it but you saying itll work. I just dont want to be stuck in the same position i am now with this Verizon phone
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T-Mobile devices are the same as AT&T devices; the only thing different is that they also support T-Mobile's 4G (which uses AWS) where as AT&T devices don't. I promise you it'll work. Just make sure you ask the buyer for a receipt to prove that he paid for the phone in full; you might end up with a device that gets blacklisted because the buyer decides not to pay for the phone/his bill in full.
So, is the Verizon G2 AWS capable?
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So, is the Verizon G2 AWS capable?
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Only for LTE. It won't get LTE on AT&T but it will on T-Mobile.
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I don't get why people still think they can just bring a Verizon LTE phone to ATT OR ATT LTE to Sprint or Sprint LTE to Tmobile, etc. It is pretty ridiculous that most people don't understand how cell phones work and never look at the frequencies that are supported on the phone.
About Verizon AWS LTE...Verizon has said that they are only deploying 5,000 AWS LTE towers by the end of this year and willing be adding more sites in 2014. You think 5,000 LTE sites is a lot considering that Verizon's network comprises of 45,000 towers. Let me tell you it isn't considering that is only about 1/9 of the total towers spread out nationwide. You'll be lucky to get a stable LTE connection if you only have LTE BC 4 support considering the shorter range propagation characteristics of AWS spectrum. Anyone thinking of bringing over their Tmobile LTE phones to Verizon better think twice before doing that assuming they will get the same LTE range and coverage as its 700 MHz LTE network.
To me it is always easier to just sell the LTE phone that I am no longer a carrier with and buy the carrier branded LTE phone to avoid all this hassle of unlocking it and having to worry about frequency incompatibilities.
Verizon and att share an aws band. I know about phones, im not dumb. I was just exploring the possibility of it being achieved. If the phones have exactly same hardware across the board, than it means its software related, which in the android world, with alot of trial and error and work, most software issues can be overcome. Thanks for your huge rant though, you should go work for Verizon
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Verizon and att share an aws band. I know about phones, im not dumb. I was just exploring the possibility of it being achieved. If the phones have exactly same hardware across the board, than it means its software related, which in the android world, with alot of trial and error and work, most software issues can be overcome. Thanks for your huge rant though, you should go work for Verizon
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Dude. I know everything there is to know about this. AT&T uses AWS LTE in VERY VERY VERY few areas. You won't be able to get LTE with your Verizon G2 on 99% of their network.
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I had a little too much fun on new years eve .. I set my Verizon LG G2 down on a table and apparently either I left it or it was stolen .. I probably left it hahaha..
Now i'm trying to get another one .. I really loved the phone...
I'm scouring eBay ..
I'm in a 2 year contract with verizon ..... but, I wanted to know ... Can I use a Sprint based LG G2 on the verizon network ? Will I still get verizon LTE ?
Same thing with T-mobile versions ? Can I get all the bands and function I did out of my verizon LG G2 ?
Thanks for the heads up guys.
I know that the Verizon one can use Sprint, but I am not sure about the other war around. I think the global one works on Verizon's LTE band, although I am not sure an that either. If you can afford it, get the Verizon model (VS980) off contract. You can check the bands and other specs on phone arena.
The T-Mobile one seems to share frequencies of Verizon's though.
Hope I helped.
Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers and run on compatible CDMA frequencies and technologies (1xRTT, EvDO) and both their branded phones can roam on/off each other's network for both voice and data.
Having said that, the fact that they're primarily CDMA carriers means that you cannot just bring a phone onto their respective networks. The ESN/MEID of the phone has to already be in their database for them to activate.
So, taking a Sprint LG G2 and walking into a Verizon store or calling Verizon to activate it will get you a big fat NO, and vice versa.
Is it technically possible? Of course.
Worth the effort/hassle? No.
T-Mobile is a GSM carrier, no CDMA, so that's out of the question, same with AT&T, or any GSM variant of the G2.
Get a Verizon LG G2. Just keep looking carefully and you'll find a good deal.
I got my Sprint LG G2 mint in box for 325, clean ESN, no funny business. Love it to bits.
You can use Sprint LG G2 on Tmobile, takes about 20 minutes
LordLugard said:
Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers and run on compatible CDMA frequencies and technologies (1xRTT, EvDO) and both their branded phones can roam on/off each other's network for both voice and data.
Having said that, the fact that they're primarily CDMA carriers means that you cannot just bring a phone onto their respective networks. The ESN/MEID of the phone has to already be in their database for them to activate.
So, taking a Sprint LG G2 and walking into a Verizon store or calling Verizon to activate it will get you a big fat NO, and vice versa.
Is it technically possible? Of course.
Worth the effort/hassle? No.
T-Mobile is a GSM carrier, no CDMA, so that's out of the question, same with AT&T, or any GSM variant of the G2.
Get a Verizon LG G2. Just keep looking carefully and you'll find a good deal.
I got my Sprint LG G2 mint in box for 325, clean ESN, no funny business. Love it to bits.
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In response to this assessment I have to correct these "facts"
You CAN use Tmobile's network on Sprint LG G2 Variant. See Younggunners forum on Sprint-Tmobile rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165
I am currently getting 4G speeds at around 14 mb on the down and 4 on the up, very workable.
I can attest that it works; I have also performed the flash on other sprint LG G2 LS980 Variants as well.
I am using Justin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165&page=11,
It's an awesome stock experience!
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In response to this assessment I have to correct these "facts"
You CAN use Tmobile's network on Sprint LG G2 Variant. See Younggunners forum on Sprint-Tmobile rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165
I am currently getting 4G speeds at around 14 mb on the down and 4 on the up, very workable.
I can attest that it works; I have also performed the flash on other sprint LG G2 LS980 Variants as well.
I am using Justin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165&page=11,
It's an awesome stock experience!
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I think you missed what he was saying. He was saying that the T-Mobile and ATT variants do not support any CDMA so they will not work at all. The sprint variant supports Verizon CDMA but verizon will not activate a sprint device on their network. In any case the sprint device does not support Verizon LTE bands. Even if Verizon activated a sprint g2 on their network it would be 3G only.
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I'm currently with verizon., and they are so expensive! I went to a MetroPCS store who told me that since its a verizon phone that I can have phone and texting service with MetroPCS, but would not have internet or picture messaging. If I flash my Verizon LG G2 to an AT&T stock ROM, would that work? The MetroPCS guy told me their system only works with AT&T or T-Mobile phones. If flashing to an AT&T ROM wouldnt work, do you have any suggestions?
Please...someone help with my question
You'll have service without an issue. Only problem is that the phone will be stuck on edge because it is missing the aws bands required for hspa+ unless you are in a reformed section where you'll pick up hspa+ 21.1 but that's not available for all towers. Flashing a room will not work. Best if you sell the device, cancel your Verizon contract, pay it with the phone money and get a new phone.
Source: Being a solavei member
Also, wrong section to post the question.
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I dunno my Sprint G2 runs perfect on AT&T but I would think a pro could flash you and not lose anything except maybe LTE, maybe Metro/Tmobile spectrum isn't compatible in your area for the internet. Try an AIO store, call some flashers on Craigslist.
Hey, I've used xda plenty in the past before but never had to post a question so bear with me.
I bought a att lg g2 and a tmobile sim to go with it. I can only get 3g, no lte. Its very slow. I did some reading and it looks discouraging. I live in south texas.
Is there anyway to turn on the radio bands i need to make 4g/lte work? I saw a thread about how to turn on lte for custom roms. Will that work or not? I think tmobile uses bands 17 19 and 21. There are those bands in the hidden menu on my phone but idk. It looks like some att lg g2s work with tmobile lte and others do not. Thanks for your help.
Ps. Im on another forum where the attitude towards noobs is like xda's so take it easy on me lol.
First thing first, have you rooted, unlocked the phone and bootloader?
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First thing first, have you rooted, unlocked the phone and bootloader?
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Yes, its rooted and unlocked for different carriers. Su is installed but not a custom recovery. Im not really interested in installing a custom rom at this point.
From the carrier pages:
AT&T LG G2 has bands 1,2,4,5 & 17
T-Mobile LG G2 has: 2,4,7 & 17
7 is 2600MHz so it's not relevant for the US
I would say it's not a phone capability problem
The T-Mobile LG G2 has a seting in networks for network mode: GSM, WCDMA, GSM+WCDMA, GSM+WCDMA+LTE
The same can be achieved with the Phone Info app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=myc.phone.PhoneInfo
Also make sure you are using the fast.t-mobile.com APN http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
That apn you linked above does not work on my phone. I talked to a tmobile rep this morning and thats the one he gave me. When that one didnt work i got referred up the line to a rep that sent me texts with setting patches that supposedly set my phone up like a tmobile one but i didnt get 4g/lte from that and it wasnt the lte apn. I did, however, find another fast.tmobile.com apn with a little bit different settings than the one linked above that gave me 3g. Im at a loss, I guess.
LTE works fine on this phone, I use a D800 on T-Mobile, you just need the LTE APN. That's what I use on mine.
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Im using the apn from this link and no 4g. Just edge. Its a lte apn tutorial. I know i have tmobile lte in my area. Thanks for the help so far tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236735
Do yall think it would be possible to install a tmobile kernel to maybe turn on bands that i need for tmobile lte? Tmobile uses bands 1700 and 2100. In some areas, it looks like, att phones do have tmobile lte .
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Do yall think it would be possible to install a tmobile kernel to maybe turn on bands that i need for tmobile lte? Tmobile uses bands 1700 and 2100. In some areas, it looks like, att phones do have tmobile lte .
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Only use D800 kernels on this model.
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Make sure there is a dash in t-mobile in fast.t-mobile.com
Did you ever get this fixed?
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Only use D800 kernels on this model.
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Thanks for Attached Thumbnails, I changed mine to match, and it works.
But it does take sometime to connect, especially inside house.
I'm running CM11 nightly 12/26.