I just got this unlocked verizon g2 and am using it on att, I can't get lte but I was seeing if there's a way to enable aws on it? I really like this phone but this slow data is killing me
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MrPlNK said:
I just got this unlocked verizon g2 and am using it on att, I can't get lte but I was seeing if there's a way to enable aws on it? I really like this phone but this slow data is killing me
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AT&T doesn't use AWS, except in very very VERY few areas, and only for LTE. They use 700 MHz. Verizon uses 750 MHz.
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AT&T doesn't use AWS, except in very very VERY few areas, and only for LTE. They use 700 MHz. Verizon uses 750 MHz.
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But Verizon is starting to activate their AWS spectrum in "major metropolitan areas" but there are conflicting reports in regards to the Verizon variant of the G2 and AWS.
Especially since most recent Verizon LTE phones can access the spectrum yet it hasn't been confirmed for the G2.
Do you understand what AWS is though? It's just 1700/2100 MHz together. AT&T doesn't use it (except as I said in like less than 1% of their LTE areas). AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz for HSPA+ ("4G") and 700 MHz for LTE (which Verizon devices don't do).
AWS is what T-Mobile uses for LTE though, so you'd be able to get T-Mobile's LTE out of the box.
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But lemme get one thing straight, can the phones run at these frequencies if a different modem flashed or what? Anyway this isnt going to be an issue for me because im buying an att variant and selling my Verizon variant
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But lemme get one thing straight, can the phones run at these frequencies if a different modem flashed or what? Anyway this isnt going to be an issue for me because im buying an att variant and selling my Verizon variant
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No, it's more than just the modem file. Like you said, just go and buy the AT&T (or T-Mobile) version. The T-Mobile version will work on AT&T fully as well.
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No, it's more than just the modem file. Like you said, just go and buy the AT&T (or T-Mobile) version. The T-Mobile version will work on AT&T fully as well.
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Than its different hardware?
Also, T-Mobile variant will work on AT&T LTE?
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Need to know if tmobile variant will work on att lte out of box, about to go meet up with someone who has one and id rather not waste anyone's time..
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Need to know if tmobile variant will work on att lte out of box, about to go meet up with someone who has one and id rather not waste anyone's time..
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I posted before that, yes, a T-Mobile device will fully work on AT&T with LTE and everything. If you don't have LTE on it when you put the SIM in, call up AT&T and tell them to turn on LTE on your account (if you've never had an LTE device on your AT&T account before).
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I posted before that, yes, a T-Mobile device will fully work on AT&T with LTE and everything. If you don't have LTE on it when you put the SIM in, call up AT&T and tell them to turn on LTE on your account (if you've never had an LTE device on your AT&T account before).
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Ive had lte phones since they came out, i just havent seen anything about it but you saying itll work. I just dont want to be stuck in the same position i am now with this Verizon phone
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Ive had lte phones since they came out, i just havent seen anything about it but you saying itll work. I just dont want to be stuck in the same position i am now with this Verizon phone
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T-Mobile devices are the same as AT&T devices; the only thing different is that they also support T-Mobile's 4G (which uses AWS) where as AT&T devices don't. I promise you it'll work. Just make sure you ask the buyer for a receipt to prove that he paid for the phone in full; you might end up with a device that gets blacklisted because the buyer decides not to pay for the phone/his bill in full.
So, is the Verizon G2 AWS capable?
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So, is the Verizon G2 AWS capable?
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Only for LTE. It won't get LTE on AT&T but it will on T-Mobile.
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I don't get why people still think they can just bring a Verizon LTE phone to ATT OR ATT LTE to Sprint or Sprint LTE to Tmobile, etc. It is pretty ridiculous that most people don't understand how cell phones work and never look at the frequencies that are supported on the phone.
About Verizon AWS LTE...Verizon has said that they are only deploying 5,000 AWS LTE towers by the end of this year and willing be adding more sites in 2014. You think 5,000 LTE sites is a lot considering that Verizon's network comprises of 45,000 towers. Let me tell you it isn't considering that is only about 1/9 of the total towers spread out nationwide. You'll be lucky to get a stable LTE connection if you only have LTE BC 4 support considering the shorter range propagation characteristics of AWS spectrum. Anyone thinking of bringing over their Tmobile LTE phones to Verizon better think twice before doing that assuming they will get the same LTE range and coverage as its 700 MHz LTE network.
To me it is always easier to just sell the LTE phone that I am no longer a carrier with and buy the carrier branded LTE phone to avoid all this hassle of unlocking it and having to worry about frequency incompatibilities.
Verizon and att share an aws band. I know about phones, im not dumb. I was just exploring the possibility of it being achieved. If the phones have exactly same hardware across the board, than it means its software related, which in the android world, with alot of trial and error and work, most software issues can be overcome. Thanks for your huge rant though, you should go work for Verizon
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Verizon and att share an aws band. I know about phones, im not dumb. I was just exploring the possibility of it being achieved. If the phones have exactly same hardware across the board, than it means its software related, which in the android world, with alot of trial and error and work, most software issues can be overcome. Thanks for your huge rant though, you should go work for Verizon
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Dude. I know everything there is to know about this. AT&T uses AWS LTE in VERY VERY VERY few areas. You won't be able to get LTE with your Verizon G2 on 99% of their network.
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I bought a used N1 on eBay. I totally wasn't even thinking about the fact that there are different models of the phone for different carriers. Turns out I have the T-Mobile N1, but I have AT&T service currently.
I assume that there is no kind of mod/firmware to get it to use AT&T 3G, and that it's the hardware that limits me to T-Mo? Probably more than some custom firmware or something could fix?
That kind of sucks, if so. I doubt anyone would have an AT&T model, looking for a T-Mo model, eh?
Thanks for any help, if it's even possible..
Have you looked at the seller's return policy?
No returns accepted, as stated on the item page.
I can live with it (in remorse)..
The seller didn't mention what model it was at all, either.
I don't suppose Verizon uses the same bands as T-Mo?
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No returns accepted, as stated on the item page.
I can live with it (in remorse)..
The seller didn't mention what model it was at all, either.
I don't suppose Verizon uses the same bands as T-Mo?
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No, they don't. T-Mobile and Verizon use totally different radio technologies.
Go onto the Marketplace forum on XDA, and trade/sell it through there.
Put your sim card in it
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Post it for sale locally on craigslist to finance a unit with the AT&T radio.
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Also if you have trouble locating the AT&T compatible N1, you may also consider the Telus version of HTC Desire. Largely the same hardware, AT&T bands, but no Euro 2100 band.
Possible bonus: AT&T does not know the IMEI of Telus Androids, and might not force you to a higher cost smart phone data plan.
Thanks for your input, guys.
I'll try first to sell it locally via Craigslist.
I really think that it will be much more difficult
since they discontinued the Nexus One, and provided it through the developers only,
it has always been the T-Mobile version which is quite disappointing....
the AT&T version seem to just disappear from manufacturing all together
point I am trying to make is that it the AT&T version should be much rarer and possibly worth more on the market since there are less quantities of it
it sucks my friend I feel for you...
How is the T-Mobile N1 different from AT&T model?
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Different radio frequencies and limited availability. Otherwise identical.
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I've done the exact opposite...got myself an ATT N1 while on tmobile...hahaha
hahah. I've since sold my T-Mo N1 on eBay and bought an AT&T N1 from Craigslist.. got a sweet deal, too!
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If you Unlock the S off on the nexus one Tmobile. You can use a At&t sm card with out a problem. I UnloCked the S off ON the mytouch 4g AND IT works on At&t s network. HMMMM. Wondering if it works.
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If you Unlock the S off on the nexus one Tmobile. You can use a At&t sm card with out a problem. I UnloCked the S off ON the mytouch 4g AND IT works on At&t s network. HMMMM. Wondering if it works.
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Yes, it will function on the network. The issue is that the radio hardware is built for specific frequencies, which differ between the T-Mobile and AT&T models.
You can use one phone on the other's network just fine as a phone, but you will be limited to 2G data speeds, as AT&T uses 850/1900MHz for their 3G data and T-Mobile uses 900 1700/2100MHz.
Umm, nobody uses 900 MHz for cellular in North America... that spectrum is not allocated for that purpose here.
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Umm, nobody uses 900 MHz for cellular in North America... that spectrum is not allocated for that purpose here.
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You're right, my apologies. The fact of the matter (that the hardware is incompatible between the AT&T and T-Mobile networks) remains intact though.
Correct 3G data frequency information, as best I can make it out:
AT&T uses 850MHz and 1900MHz.
T-Mobile uses 1700MHz and 2100MHz.
900MHz and 2100MHz are used primarily in Europe; a phone made for European markets will have a better chance of being fully compatible with T-Mobile's network in the states based on sharing the 2100MHz band.
Closer but still not quite
Read up on the AWS band. European phones will not get T-Mobile 3G at all without 1700.
But in the specific case of the Nexus One, models sold in Europe do have AWS.
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I just got the mytouch 4g and i wanted to sell my nexus one. But i wanted to double check and see if i can sell it to someone on the at&t network. I currently have tmobile. I thought the S-Off was to completely unlock the phone. So u can switch between carriers. Didnt know the frequency would be different. thank guyz. Damn u HTC.
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I bought a used N1 on eBay. I totally wasn't even thinking about the fact that there are different models of the phone for different carriers. Turns out I have the T-Mobile N1, but I have AT&T service currently.
I assume that there is no kind of mod/firmware to get it to use AT&T 3G, and that it's the hardware that limits me to T-Mo? Probably more than some custom firmware or something could fix?
That kind of sucks, if so. I doubt anyone would have an AT&T model, looking for a T-Mo model, eh?
Thanks for any help, if it's even possible..
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What kind of shape is your T-Mobile N1 in?
I'm actually in the process of switching to T-Mobile, and I have an ATT model that I would potentially be interested in trading, but it's definitely not mint.
I'm very interested in getting a Note 8.0 but if I did get it I would want one that has the phone functionality and is capable of connecting to hspa+ on aws band 4 (I'm on tmo US). I know it's not very likely to happen in the US but I was hoping maybe Wind or some other carrier would release one with the feature intact and the bands I need. Anyone hear anything?
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I'm very interested in getting a Note 8.0 but if I did get it I would want one that has the phone functionality and is capable of connecting to hspa+ on aws band 4 (I'm on tmo US). I know it's not very likely to happen in the US but I was hoping maybe Wind or some other carrier would release one with the feature intact and the bands I need. Anyone hear anything?
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One thing to keep in mind is that T-Mobile US is in the process of rolling out 1900Mhz data bands, so you will be able to use EU standard GSM devices (like the n5100), and AT&T compatible phones with 3G/4G data.
It's not everywhere yet, but you can check Airportal/ to see if people are getting 3G/4G data in your area. It's currently rolling out in my area, and I've been seeing 3G and H signals on my EU GSM Xperia Mini more and more often. Pretty sweet, really.
Cheers.
Yesterday I tried to switch to iWireless (a Tmobile Affiliate in Iowa) and to my surprise I was getting Edge connection from them on my unlocked ATT Galaxy S4!
I was aware about ATT iPhone working on edge speed if we use under tmobile but samsung too?
I tried the free method available on this forum to unlock the phone. Should I request a full unlock from ATT or this is (edge speed on iWireless-Tmobile) what I should be expecting even though I get full unlock from ATT (if the method I used is not unlocking the phone fully).
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Yesterday I tried to switch to iWireless (a Tmobile Affiliate in Iowa) and to my surprise I was getting Edge connection from them on my unlocked ATT Galaxy S4!
I was aware about ATT iPhone working on edge speed if we use under tmobile but samsung too?
I tried the free method available on this forum to unlock the phone. Should I request a full unlock from ATT or this is (edge speed on iWireless-Tmobile) what I should be expecting even though I get full unlock from ATT (if the method I used is not unlocking the phone fully).
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Are you sure you have 4g in your area? I have same setup and certain places even blocks difference only gets hspa.
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Are you sure you have 4g in your area? I have same setup and certain places even blocks difference only gets hspa.
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Yes, I tried that sim card on my tmobile galaxy s3 and it was showing 4g (~4-5 Mbps speed)..
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Yes, I tried that sim card on my tmobile galaxy s3 and it was showing 4g (~4-5 Mbps speed)..
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Unfortunately, for 4G, iWireless uses the AWS Spectrum (1700/2100) which the Galaxy S4 doesn't support. Even the T-Mobile version doesn't due to the switch to the 1900 frequency.
Next time if you want 4G on your phone, look at the Tech Specs and make sure under UMTS it says 1700/2100. If you want 4G, your phone HAS to support that frequency.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41738642
Try this
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Unfortunately, for 4G, iWireless uses the AWS Spectrum (1700/2100) which the Galaxy S4 doesn't support. Even the T-Mobile version doesn't due to the switch to the 1900 frequency.
Next time if you want 4G on your phone, look at the Tech Specs and make sure under UMTS it says 1700/2100. If you want 4G, your phone HAS to support that frequency.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41738642
So I guess what jd1639 suggested in above lunk will not work based on what you are saying? Because if the hardware doesn't support then unabaling it wont work.
Any comments please.
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raone26 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41738642
So I guess what jd1639 suggested in above lunk will not work based on what you are saying? Because if the hardware doesn't support then unabaling it wont work.
Any comments please.
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I don't know, I haven't seen that. I guess you can try it at your own risk.
I have iWireless, and just wondering what your location is. ;P
Unless tmobile has re done the towers in ur area ull have to unlock the the baseband im assuming u only get edge
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Unfortunately, for 4G, iWireless uses the AWS Spectrum (1700/2100) which the Galaxy S4 doesn't support. Even the T-Mobile version doesn't due to the switch to the 1900 frequency.
Next time if you want 4G on your phone, look at the Tech Specs and make sure under UMTS it says 1700/2100. If you want 4G, your phone HAS to support that frequency.
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If I'm not mistaken the MF3 update unlocks that freq. I'm pretty sure I saw in some release notes on either the MF3 or the one before that unlocked that.
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If I'm not mistaken the MF3 update unlocks that freq. I'm pretty sure I saw in some release notes on either the MF3 or the one before that unlocked that.
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I have no idea, I don't have a GS4. I have a Galaxy Nexus.
Already.... This is resolved!!!
I tried unlocking all bands based on the link above and it was smooth. Bought new prepaid sim card from iWireless. And woila a nice 4G sign on status bar and the speed justified the sign
Thanks too all who took time reply. I really appreciate it!!
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raone26 said:
Already.... This is resolved!!!
I tried unlocking all bands based on the link above and it was smooth. Bought new prepaid sim card from iWireless. And woila a nice 4G sign on status bar and the speed justified the sign
Thanks too all who took time reply. I really appreciate it!!
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Great! Enjoy your phone!
Is there any reason that the VZN rom had greyed out GSM settings. Does this mean that there are antennas that can be enabled with drivers or a SIM from ATT or TMobile?
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The phone is a world phone which means you can put in any gsm SIM card and it will work with the Bands that the phone is equipped with. I have used it on T-Mobile and metropcs successfully so far.
Also the area is greyed out because Verizon doesn't have a gsm network for cellular use. Yet. Their LTE is deployed over gsm but it is data only.
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The phone is a world phone which means you can put in any gsm SIM card and it will work with the Bands that the phone is equipped with. I have used it on T-Mobile and metropcs successfully so far.
Also the area is greyed out because Verizon doesn't have a gsm network for cellular use. Yet. Their LTE is deployed over gsm but it is data only.
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you getting 4g and lte or 4g?
I get 4g h+ where T-Mobile has upgraded their towers.
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Verizon would have GSM settings grayed out because it is not applicable to their network at all. The phone would come carrier locked so if you pop a sim card in from say TMobile then the phone still wont work. However if you were to unlock the phone (currently illegal last I heard, might change in a year or so though) it should theoretically work on ATT and TMobile and other GSM networks, although you may or may not have to manually input APN settings to get the network data working. The stock Verizon ROM though may also not include drivers for activating those radios bands wither, IDK if that is something they would do or not. All the versions of this phone use the Snapdragon 800 chipset, which has built in radios that can hit basically any network's frequency in the world.
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Verizon would have GSM settings grayed out because it is not applicable to their network at all. The phone would come carrier locked so if you pop a sim card in from say TMobile then the phone still wont work. However if you were to unlock the phone (currently illegal last I heard, might change in a year or so though) it should theoretically work on ATT and TMobile and other GSM networks, although you may or may not have to manually input APN settings to get the network data working. The stock Verizon ROM though may also not include drivers for activating those radios bands wither, IDK if that is something they would do or not. All the versions of this phone use the Snapdragon 800 chipset, which has built in radios that can hit basically any network's frequency in the world.
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This is completely and I mean completely wrong! ALL VERIZON LTE PHONES ARE UNLOCKED...... Which is why they are called world phones because you can,travel the world with them switching SIM cards and still have Verizon. I personally have done this with gs4, note2, droid maxx, motox, and now the lgg2
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This is completely and I mean completely wrong! ALL VERIZON LTE PHONES ARE UNLOCKED...... Which is why they are called world phones because you can,travel the world with them switching SIM cards and still have Verizon. I personally have done this with gs4, note2, droid maxx, motox, and now the lgg2
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Well at most only a small part of what I said is wrong so thanks for trying to correct me in in a very dickish way. Unfortunately you are also wrong, not all Verizon phones come unlocked from them.
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AT&T will let you unlock your device permanently, provided your contract has already expired. AT&T customers still on contract may unlock their devices up to five times per year (for international travel purposes), as long as they don’t owe any past-due amount on their accounts, and have been a customer for 60 days or more.
Verizon sells all iPhone 5s unlocked, meaning you could take your device over to AT&T or T-Mobile without having to unlock the device. But other devices, like the Samsung Galaxy S3, are locked by Verizon. However, like AT&T, customers in good standing can request to have their devices unlocked for international travel.
Sprint does not offer unlocked devices, but it will allow customers to unlock their devices for travel after three months with the carrier.
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All verizon LTE devices are unlocked out the box... wasn't being a. .... despite your assumptions the gs3 is unlocked so is all their world phones. And I never said all their phones were unlocked I stated all lte devices which are world phones are unlocked out the box. I currently have every phone that has come out since the gs3 and all work on T-Mobile with no call to verizon. But I am not going to argue about it. My apologies to the op simply stating what I know is true...
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All verizon LTE devices are unlocked out the box... wasn't being a. .... despite your assumptions the gs3 is unlocked so is all their world phones. And I never said all their phones were unlocked I stated all lte devices which are world phones are unlocked out the box. I currently have every phone that has come out since the gs3 and all work on T-Mobile with no call to verizon. But I am not going to argue about it. My apologies to the op simply stating what I know is true...
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Can you use a vs980 vzw lg g2 on at&t's network have it work properly and get 4g lte coverage?
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Can you use a vs980 vzw lg g2 on at&t's network have it work properly and get 4g lte coverage?
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The Verizon G2 supports the LTE bands 4 and 13.
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The Verizon G2 supports the LTE bands 4 and 13.
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Forgive me, but i dont know what that means lol.
Will TMO be bound by the same restrictions re 700mhz as Verizon? My Verizon sold N7 works just fine with my TMO unlimited phone sim (have tried it many times); I'm not sure whether that's related to the above or that T-Mobile just doesn't see it as a tablet. My AT&T Note 8 does not work but that also doesn't have that band.
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Will TMO be bound by the same restrictions re 700mhz as Verizon? My Verizon sold N7 works just fine with my TMO unlimited phone sim (have tried it many times); I'm not sure whether that's related to the above or that T-Mobile just doesn't see it as a tablet. My AT&T Note 8 does not work but that also doesn't have that band.
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I don't really understand the question. T-Mobile 700mhz LTE may may not be deployed in your area yet. I know Nyc and its neighbors wont get it until beginning of next year.
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