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I bought a used N1 on eBay. I totally wasn't even thinking about the fact that there are different models of the phone for different carriers. Turns out I have the T-Mobile N1, but I have AT&T service currently.
I assume that there is no kind of mod/firmware to get it to use AT&T 3G, and that it's the hardware that limits me to T-Mo? Probably more than some custom firmware or something could fix?
That kind of sucks, if so. I doubt anyone would have an AT&T model, looking for a T-Mo model, eh?
Thanks for any help, if it's even possible..
Have you looked at the seller's return policy?
No returns accepted, as stated on the item page.
I can live with it (in remorse)..
The seller didn't mention what model it was at all, either.
I don't suppose Verizon uses the same bands as T-Mo?
austinm08 said:
No returns accepted, as stated on the item page.
I can live with it (in remorse)..
The seller didn't mention what model it was at all, either.
I don't suppose Verizon uses the same bands as T-Mo?
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No, they don't. T-Mobile and Verizon use totally different radio technologies.
Go onto the Marketplace forum on XDA, and trade/sell it through there.
Put your sim card in it
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Post it for sale locally on craigslist to finance a unit with the AT&T radio.
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Also if you have trouble locating the AT&T compatible N1, you may also consider the Telus version of HTC Desire. Largely the same hardware, AT&T bands, but no Euro 2100 band.
Possible bonus: AT&T does not know the IMEI of Telus Androids, and might not force you to a higher cost smart phone data plan.
Thanks for your input, guys.
I'll try first to sell it locally via Craigslist.
I really think that it will be much more difficult
since they discontinued the Nexus One, and provided it through the developers only,
it has always been the T-Mobile version which is quite disappointing....
the AT&T version seem to just disappear from manufacturing all together
point I am trying to make is that it the AT&T version should be much rarer and possibly worth more on the market since there are less quantities of it
it sucks my friend I feel for you...
How is the T-Mobile N1 different from AT&T model?
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Different radio frequencies and limited availability. Otherwise identical.
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I've done the exact opposite...got myself an ATT N1 while on tmobile...hahaha
hahah. I've since sold my T-Mo N1 on eBay and bought an AT&T N1 from Craigslist.. got a sweet deal, too!
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If you Unlock the S off on the nexus one Tmobile. You can use a At&t sm card with out a problem. I UnloCked the S off ON the mytouch 4g AND IT works on At&t s network. HMMMM. Wondering if it works.
Sir0 said:
If you Unlock the S off on the nexus one Tmobile. You can use a At&t sm card with out a problem. I UnloCked the S off ON the mytouch 4g AND IT works on At&t s network. HMMMM. Wondering if it works.
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Yes, it will function on the network. The issue is that the radio hardware is built for specific frequencies, which differ between the T-Mobile and AT&T models.
You can use one phone on the other's network just fine as a phone, but you will be limited to 2G data speeds, as AT&T uses 850/1900MHz for their 3G data and T-Mobile uses 900 1700/2100MHz.
Umm, nobody uses 900 MHz for cellular in North America... that spectrum is not allocated for that purpose here.
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cmstlist said:
Umm, nobody uses 900 MHz for cellular in North America... that spectrum is not allocated for that purpose here.
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You're right, my apologies. The fact of the matter (that the hardware is incompatible between the AT&T and T-Mobile networks) remains intact though.
Correct 3G data frequency information, as best I can make it out:
AT&T uses 850MHz and 1900MHz.
T-Mobile uses 1700MHz and 2100MHz.
900MHz and 2100MHz are used primarily in Europe; a phone made for European markets will have a better chance of being fully compatible with T-Mobile's network in the states based on sharing the 2100MHz band.
Closer but still not quite
Read up on the AWS band. European phones will not get T-Mobile 3G at all without 1700.
But in the specific case of the Nexus One, models sold in Europe do have AWS.
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Dope
I just got the mytouch 4g and i wanted to sell my nexus one. But i wanted to double check and see if i can sell it to someone on the at&t network. I currently have tmobile. I thought the S-Off was to completely unlock the phone. So u can switch between carriers. Didnt know the frequency would be different. thank guyz. Damn u HTC.
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I bought a used N1 on eBay. I totally wasn't even thinking about the fact that there are different models of the phone for different carriers. Turns out I have the T-Mobile N1, but I have AT&T service currently.
I assume that there is no kind of mod/firmware to get it to use AT&T 3G, and that it's the hardware that limits me to T-Mo? Probably more than some custom firmware or something could fix?
That kind of sucks, if so. I doubt anyone would have an AT&T model, looking for a T-Mo model, eh?
Thanks for any help, if it's even possible..
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What kind of shape is your T-Mobile N1 in?
I'm actually in the process of switching to T-Mobile, and I have an ATT model that I would potentially be interested in trading, but it's definitely not mint.
Hi guys I am interested to buy international lte galaxy note 2 (gt-n7105) .I stay in us I dont want to stick with at&t galaxy note 2 just because updates are very slow and support is very frustrating.till date we didn't get the update for multi app Window which is one of the unique features in note 2 .can u suggest me a place or website where I can buy the note 2 lte (gt-n7105) in us .
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sush143555 said:
Hi guys I am interested to buy international lte galaxy note 2 (gt-n7105)
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Hmm
sush143555 said:
Hi guys I am interested to buy international lte galaxy note 2 (gt-n7105) .I stay in us I dont want to stick with at&t galaxy note 2 just because updates are very slow and support is very frustrating.till date we didn't get the update for multi app Window which is one of the unique features in note 2 .can u suggest me a place or website where I can buy the note 2 lte (gt-n7105) in us .
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I recently bought one from www.android-enjoyed.com and they shipped from hongkong to me. It's perfect and in a sealed box. Also available at www.gsmnation.com. Price is the factor which vendor to go with. Check if at&t support the LTE bandwidth (800, 1800, 2600). Good luck.
unless you're going to be staying a lot in Europe, the N7105 isn't going to be a particularly better phone for you with its Euro/ETSI bands for LTE. The Note2 is multiband GSM and 3G (UMTS) anyway.
And LTE isn't fully deployed across Europe either, so by the time it is, the Note3 will be here, so I would say buy a cheaper Note2-7100 and save your money!
Or buy an US variant and flash a custom ROM on it.
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sush143555 said:
Hi guys I am interested to buy international lte galaxy note 2 (gt-n7105) .I stay in us I dont want to stick with at&t galaxy note 2 just because updates are very slow and support is very frustrating.till date we didn't get the update for multi app Window which is one of the unique features in note 2 .can u suggest me a place or website where I can buy the note 2 lte (gt-n7105) in us .
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Just as Victorator mentioned, just get the AT&T Note 2 and flash international firmware onto it. The N7105's LTE hardware is not compatible with domestic North American LTE service, so it won't work. Fortunately, the AT&T/Rogers i317(m) Note 2's are virtually identical to the N7105 from a hardware standpoint, with the exceptions of differing LTE radios and lack of FM radio in the case of the North American Note 2's. That's why it's so easy to flash the international firmware onto them.
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hpacura said:
I recently bought one from www.android-enjoyed.com and they shipped from hongkong to me. It's perfect and in a sealed box. Also available at www.gsmnation.com. Price is the factor which vendor to go with. Check if at&t support the LTE bandwidth (800, 1800, 2600). Good luck.
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Niether of those are selling cheap N7105 compared to
www.negrielectronics.com
Who are also more suitably based for the OP in the US.
The 7105 LTE bands aren't the US bands but alot are buying the 7105 for its faster 3G capabilities (DC HSPA+) rather than for its 4G
Not sure whether its an advantage to have that feature in US though.
For the International version N7100, if I put in the T-mobile sim, do I only get "edge" and not "3G" ?
And with AT&T, do I at least get the 4G? I am debating to either get the AT&T one of the international one.
benzso63 said:
For the International version N7100, if I put in the T-mobile sim, do I only get "edge" and not "3G" ?
And with AT&T, do I at least get the 4G? I am debating to either get the AT&T one of the international one.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm moving from Japan to the America, and I have an unlocked N2 with docomo. I knew off the bat that the LTE wouldn't be compatible, but didn't even consider the 3G. Hate to have such an awesome device on an ancient network.
I am using AT&T myself. I just want to make sure with the N7100 international unlocked version. Will I get 4G , I know LTE is out of luck.
Can anyone confirm this?
D1G1N1XY said:
I'm in the same boat. I'm moving from Japan to the America, and I have an unlocked N2 with docomo. I knew off the bat that the LTE wouldn't be compatible, but didn't even consider the 3G. Hate to have such an awesome device on an ancient network.
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Almost same here. I will be coming to the US next month with international N7100 unlocked.
And I am wondering which provider will give me maximum speeds (AT&T or TMo or someelse like Straighttalk)
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Almost same here. I will be coming to the US next month with international N7100 unlocked.
And I am wondering which provider will give me maximum speeds (AT&T or TMo or someelse like Straighttalk)
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If you have the INT GT-N7100 then you will want to use AT&T but go with Straight Talk they use att network. I use Straight Talk and get dl speeds of 6-8 up of about2-4. And its cheaper than att.
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Would it be a problem using the AT&T branded SGH-I337 sim-unlocked phone with the T-Mobile SIM card here in the States?
I was told at T-Mobile store today that the voice calls and SMSs should be no problem, but mobile internet would be a big issue.
I don't know whether it's worth or even possible to reflash the phone with T-Moblie firmware.
The reason being I have 1 bar or signal at home (or even less when it rains), regular phone with international SIM card does not even pick up ATT - T-M only...
They gave me free ATT 3G MicroCell - got the full bar but in the weak areas other party still hears mostly distortion.
no,it be a problem, i bought my GF a T-Mobile unlocked S4 model M919 and she uses it on LTE here in canada all the time. Rogers and ATT have very similar networks so NO, it would def not be a problem
Everything will work. However data will only be 2G while you are on t-mobile
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Everything will work. However data will only be 2G while you are on t-mobile
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Would it be slower?
I'm currently using my I337 on t-mobile. Have no issues with anything, getting LTE data also
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You need a few things to unlock all the bands for full coverage on T-Mobile.
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I get 2g/3g/HSPA+ and LTE all great on my AT&T Galaxy S4 with T-Mobile SIM. Running Cyanogenmod 10.1 nightlies
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You need a few things to unlock all the bands for full coverage on T-Mobile.
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What are the things you need to do? Thanks. Trying to do this now.
It will work regardless. But if you want to make it pick up all of tmobiles bands you need to unlock aws.. I did it yesterday. Worked fine without it but works way better with it... Didn't take long and was easy. Just follow the steps
FYI you Dont need tmobiles firmware. You just need your phones frequency's unlocked so its more compatible to T-Mobile. Att uses 1900 frequency and T-Mobile uses 1700, 1900 and 2200 I believe. Atts phone dont have the other frequencies unlocked without you doing it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291589
Lol just realized I answered your question in the q and a section about this like an hour ago. Go look at your post
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I just got this unlocked verizon g2 and am using it on att, I can't get lte but I was seeing if there's a way to enable aws on it? I really like this phone but this slow data is killing me
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MrPlNK said:
I just got this unlocked verizon g2 and am using it on att, I can't get lte but I was seeing if there's a way to enable aws on it? I really like this phone but this slow data is killing me
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AT&T doesn't use AWS, except in very very VERY few areas, and only for LTE. They use 700 MHz. Verizon uses 750 MHz.
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AT&T doesn't use AWS, except in very very VERY few areas, and only for LTE. They use 700 MHz. Verizon uses 750 MHz.
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But Verizon is starting to activate their AWS spectrum in "major metropolitan areas" but there are conflicting reports in regards to the Verizon variant of the G2 and AWS.
Especially since most recent Verizon LTE phones can access the spectrum yet it hasn't been confirmed for the G2.
Do you understand what AWS is though? It's just 1700/2100 MHz together. AT&T doesn't use it (except as I said in like less than 1% of their LTE areas). AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz for HSPA+ ("4G") and 700 MHz for LTE (which Verizon devices don't do).
AWS is what T-Mobile uses for LTE though, so you'd be able to get T-Mobile's LTE out of the box.
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But lemme get one thing straight, can the phones run at these frequencies if a different modem flashed or what? Anyway this isnt going to be an issue for me because im buying an att variant and selling my Verizon variant
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MrPlNK said:
But lemme get one thing straight, can the phones run at these frequencies if a different modem flashed or what? Anyway this isnt going to be an issue for me because im buying an att variant and selling my Verizon variant
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No, it's more than just the modem file. Like you said, just go and buy the AT&T (or T-Mobile) version. The T-Mobile version will work on AT&T fully as well.
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No, it's more than just the modem file. Like you said, just go and buy the AT&T (or T-Mobile) version. The T-Mobile version will work on AT&T fully as well.
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Than its different hardware?
Also, T-Mobile variant will work on AT&T LTE?
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Need to know if tmobile variant will work on att lte out of box, about to go meet up with someone who has one and id rather not waste anyone's time..
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Need to know if tmobile variant will work on att lte out of box, about to go meet up with someone who has one and id rather not waste anyone's time..
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I posted before that, yes, a T-Mobile device will fully work on AT&T with LTE and everything. If you don't have LTE on it when you put the SIM in, call up AT&T and tell them to turn on LTE on your account (if you've never had an LTE device on your AT&T account before).
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I posted before that, yes, a T-Mobile device will fully work on AT&T with LTE and everything. If you don't have LTE on it when you put the SIM in, call up AT&T and tell them to turn on LTE on your account (if you've never had an LTE device on your AT&T account before).
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Ive had lte phones since they came out, i just havent seen anything about it but you saying itll work. I just dont want to be stuck in the same position i am now with this Verizon phone
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MrPlNK said:
Ive had lte phones since they came out, i just havent seen anything about it but you saying itll work. I just dont want to be stuck in the same position i am now with this Verizon phone
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T-Mobile devices are the same as AT&T devices; the only thing different is that they also support T-Mobile's 4G (which uses AWS) where as AT&T devices don't. I promise you it'll work. Just make sure you ask the buyer for a receipt to prove that he paid for the phone in full; you might end up with a device that gets blacklisted because the buyer decides not to pay for the phone/his bill in full.
So, is the Verizon G2 AWS capable?
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So, is the Verizon G2 AWS capable?
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Only for LTE. It won't get LTE on AT&T but it will on T-Mobile.
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I don't get why people still think they can just bring a Verizon LTE phone to ATT OR ATT LTE to Sprint or Sprint LTE to Tmobile, etc. It is pretty ridiculous that most people don't understand how cell phones work and never look at the frequencies that are supported on the phone.
About Verizon AWS LTE...Verizon has said that they are only deploying 5,000 AWS LTE towers by the end of this year and willing be adding more sites in 2014. You think 5,000 LTE sites is a lot considering that Verizon's network comprises of 45,000 towers. Let me tell you it isn't considering that is only about 1/9 of the total towers spread out nationwide. You'll be lucky to get a stable LTE connection if you only have LTE BC 4 support considering the shorter range propagation characteristics of AWS spectrum. Anyone thinking of bringing over their Tmobile LTE phones to Verizon better think twice before doing that assuming they will get the same LTE range and coverage as its 700 MHz LTE network.
To me it is always easier to just sell the LTE phone that I am no longer a carrier with and buy the carrier branded LTE phone to avoid all this hassle of unlocking it and having to worry about frequency incompatibilities.
Verizon and att share an aws band. I know about phones, im not dumb. I was just exploring the possibility of it being achieved. If the phones have exactly same hardware across the board, than it means its software related, which in the android world, with alot of trial and error and work, most software issues can be overcome. Thanks for your huge rant though, you should go work for Verizon
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Verizon and att share an aws band. I know about phones, im not dumb. I was just exploring the possibility of it being achieved. If the phones have exactly same hardware across the board, than it means its software related, which in the android world, with alot of trial and error and work, most software issues can be overcome. Thanks for your huge rant though, you should go work for Verizon
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Dude. I know everything there is to know about this. AT&T uses AWS LTE in VERY VERY VERY few areas. You won't be able to get LTE with your Verizon G2 on 99% of their network.
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Will TMO be bound by the same restrictions re 700mhz as Verizon? My Verizon sold N7 works just fine with my TMO unlimited phone sim (have tried it many times); I'm not sure whether that's related to the above or that T-Mobile just doesn't see it as a tablet. My AT&T Note 8 does not work but that also doesn't have that band.
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Will TMO be bound by the same restrictions re 700mhz as Verizon? My Verizon sold N7 works just fine with my TMO unlimited phone sim (have tried it many times); I'm not sure whether that's related to the above or that T-Mobile just doesn't see it as a tablet. My AT&T Note 8 does not work but that also doesn't have that band.
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I don't really understand the question. T-Mobile 700mhz LTE may may not be deployed in your area yet. I know Nyc and its neighbors wont get it until beginning of next year.
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