Is there any reason that the VZN rom had greyed out GSM settings. Does this mean that there are antennas that can be enabled with drivers or a SIM from ATT or TMobile?
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The phone is a world phone which means you can put in any gsm SIM card and it will work with the Bands that the phone is equipped with. I have used it on T-Mobile and metropcs successfully so far.
Also the area is greyed out because Verizon doesn't have a gsm network for cellular use. Yet. Their LTE is deployed over gsm but it is data only.
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The phone is a world phone which means you can put in any gsm SIM card and it will work with the Bands that the phone is equipped with. I have used it on T-Mobile and metropcs successfully so far.
Also the area is greyed out because Verizon doesn't have a gsm network for cellular use. Yet. Their LTE is deployed over gsm but it is data only.
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you getting 4g and lte or 4g?
I get 4g h+ where T-Mobile has upgraded their towers.
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Verizon would have GSM settings grayed out because it is not applicable to their network at all. The phone would come carrier locked so if you pop a sim card in from say TMobile then the phone still wont work. However if you were to unlock the phone (currently illegal last I heard, might change in a year or so though) it should theoretically work on ATT and TMobile and other GSM networks, although you may or may not have to manually input APN settings to get the network data working. The stock Verizon ROM though may also not include drivers for activating those radios bands wither, IDK if that is something they would do or not. All the versions of this phone use the Snapdragon 800 chipset, which has built in radios that can hit basically any network's frequency in the world.
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Verizon would have GSM settings grayed out because it is not applicable to their network at all. The phone would come carrier locked so if you pop a sim card in from say TMobile then the phone still wont work. However if you were to unlock the phone (currently illegal last I heard, might change in a year or so though) it should theoretically work on ATT and TMobile and other GSM networks, although you may or may not have to manually input APN settings to get the network data working. The stock Verizon ROM though may also not include drivers for activating those radios bands wither, IDK if that is something they would do or not. All the versions of this phone use the Snapdragon 800 chipset, which has built in radios that can hit basically any network's frequency in the world.
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This is completely and I mean completely wrong! ALL VERIZON LTE PHONES ARE UNLOCKED...... Which is why they are called world phones because you can,travel the world with them switching SIM cards and still have Verizon. I personally have done this with gs4, note2, droid maxx, motox, and now the lgg2
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This is completely and I mean completely wrong! ALL VERIZON LTE PHONES ARE UNLOCKED...... Which is why they are called world phones because you can,travel the world with them switching SIM cards and still have Verizon. I personally have done this with gs4, note2, droid maxx, motox, and now the lgg2
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Well at most only a small part of what I said is wrong so thanks for trying to correct me in in a very dickish way. Unfortunately you are also wrong, not all Verizon phones come unlocked from them.
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AT&T will let you unlock your device permanently, provided your contract has already expired. AT&T customers still on contract may unlock their devices up to five times per year (for international travel purposes), as long as they don’t owe any past-due amount on their accounts, and have been a customer for 60 days or more.
Verizon sells all iPhone 5s unlocked, meaning you could take your device over to AT&T or T-Mobile without having to unlock the device. But other devices, like the Samsung Galaxy S3, are locked by Verizon. However, like AT&T, customers in good standing can request to have their devices unlocked for international travel.
Sprint does not offer unlocked devices, but it will allow customers to unlock their devices for travel after three months with the carrier.
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All verizon LTE devices are unlocked out the box... wasn't being a. .... despite your assumptions the gs3 is unlocked so is all their world phones. And I never said all their phones were unlocked I stated all lte devices which are world phones are unlocked out the box. I currently have every phone that has come out since the gs3 and all work on T-Mobile with no call to verizon. But I am not going to argue about it. My apologies to the op simply stating what I know is true...
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Use a vzw on at&t
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All verizon LTE devices are unlocked out the box... wasn't being a. .... despite your assumptions the gs3 is unlocked so is all their world phones. And I never said all their phones were unlocked I stated all lte devices which are world phones are unlocked out the box. I currently have every phone that has come out since the gs3 and all work on T-Mobile with no call to verizon. But I am not going to argue about it. My apologies to the op simply stating what I know is true...
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Can you use a vs980 vzw lg g2 on at&t's network have it work properly and get 4g lte coverage?
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Can you use a vs980 vzw lg g2 on at&t's network have it work properly and get 4g lte coverage?
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The Verizon G2 supports the LTE bands 4 and 13.
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The Verizon G2 supports the LTE bands 4 and 13.
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Forgive me, but i dont know what that means lol.
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Hey, I just wanna know if it's unlocked because t mobile told me it's not unlocked and this guy on youtube told me it's not unlocked but it's easy to unlock.. Yet I see soooo many forums that say it's unlocked. I need to know if it's unlocked cause I may be switching to Sprint due to the fact that they have more coverage in PA than T Mobile does even though I live in NY, i recently bought a house down in PA and my t mobile service sucks
If it isn't unlocked, please tell me how I can unlock it. Thank you.
It comes unlocked. But different technology than Sprint uses so it won't work for them. It will only work with carriers who use a SIM card.
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it is unlocked for gsm carriers
sprint and verizon are not gsm so you wont be able to use it with sprint.
and also there is NO possible way to use it on sprint. different bands different wireless technologies
The Nexus 4 is a GSM device not a CDMA device. A Sim-card is required to use the phone.
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It is unlocked. You could use AT&T or one of their MVNO's like NET10. The deals are not as good for data, but they have better coverage outside the city. I would do a network scan while in PA and see what GSM carrier's show up. If you see AT&T, try a NET10 SIM for 1 month and if reception is strong enough, choose them or AT&T directly. If not, sell the N4 and look for a new phone and carrier. A friend who lives in the city, but has a house in PA uses Verizon because Sprint has poor data speeds there.
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It comes unlocked. But different technology than Sprint uses so it won't work for them. It will only work with carriers who use a SIM card.
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Incorrect. Only works on GSM carriers with sim. Verizon uses sim cards on their lte devices and putting that sim in a nexus 4 wouldn't work.
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I just got this unlocked verizon g2 and am using it on att, I can't get lte but I was seeing if there's a way to enable aws on it? I really like this phone but this slow data is killing me
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I just got this unlocked verizon g2 and am using it on att, I can't get lte but I was seeing if there's a way to enable aws on it? I really like this phone but this slow data is killing me
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AT&T doesn't use AWS, except in very very VERY few areas, and only for LTE. They use 700 MHz. Verizon uses 750 MHz.
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AT&T doesn't use AWS, except in very very VERY few areas, and only for LTE. They use 700 MHz. Verizon uses 750 MHz.
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But Verizon is starting to activate their AWS spectrum in "major metropolitan areas" but there are conflicting reports in regards to the Verizon variant of the G2 and AWS.
Especially since most recent Verizon LTE phones can access the spectrum yet it hasn't been confirmed for the G2.
Do you understand what AWS is though? It's just 1700/2100 MHz together. AT&T doesn't use it (except as I said in like less than 1% of their LTE areas). AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz for HSPA+ ("4G") and 700 MHz for LTE (which Verizon devices don't do).
AWS is what T-Mobile uses for LTE though, so you'd be able to get T-Mobile's LTE out of the box.
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But lemme get one thing straight, can the phones run at these frequencies if a different modem flashed or what? Anyway this isnt going to be an issue for me because im buying an att variant and selling my Verizon variant
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But lemme get one thing straight, can the phones run at these frequencies if a different modem flashed or what? Anyway this isnt going to be an issue for me because im buying an att variant and selling my Verizon variant
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No, it's more than just the modem file. Like you said, just go and buy the AT&T (or T-Mobile) version. The T-Mobile version will work on AT&T fully as well.
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No, it's more than just the modem file. Like you said, just go and buy the AT&T (or T-Mobile) version. The T-Mobile version will work on AT&T fully as well.
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Than its different hardware?
Also, T-Mobile variant will work on AT&T LTE?
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Need to know if tmobile variant will work on att lte out of box, about to go meet up with someone who has one and id rather not waste anyone's time..
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Need to know if tmobile variant will work on att lte out of box, about to go meet up with someone who has one and id rather not waste anyone's time..
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I posted before that, yes, a T-Mobile device will fully work on AT&T with LTE and everything. If you don't have LTE on it when you put the SIM in, call up AT&T and tell them to turn on LTE on your account (if you've never had an LTE device on your AT&T account before).
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I posted before that, yes, a T-Mobile device will fully work on AT&T with LTE and everything. If you don't have LTE on it when you put the SIM in, call up AT&T and tell them to turn on LTE on your account (if you've never had an LTE device on your AT&T account before).
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Ive had lte phones since they came out, i just havent seen anything about it but you saying itll work. I just dont want to be stuck in the same position i am now with this Verizon phone
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Ive had lte phones since they came out, i just havent seen anything about it but you saying itll work. I just dont want to be stuck in the same position i am now with this Verizon phone
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T-Mobile devices are the same as AT&T devices; the only thing different is that they also support T-Mobile's 4G (which uses AWS) where as AT&T devices don't. I promise you it'll work. Just make sure you ask the buyer for a receipt to prove that he paid for the phone in full; you might end up with a device that gets blacklisted because the buyer decides not to pay for the phone/his bill in full.
So, is the Verizon G2 AWS capable?
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So, is the Verizon G2 AWS capable?
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Only for LTE. It won't get LTE on AT&T but it will on T-Mobile.
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I don't get why people still think they can just bring a Verizon LTE phone to ATT OR ATT LTE to Sprint or Sprint LTE to Tmobile, etc. It is pretty ridiculous that most people don't understand how cell phones work and never look at the frequencies that are supported on the phone.
About Verizon AWS LTE...Verizon has said that they are only deploying 5,000 AWS LTE towers by the end of this year and willing be adding more sites in 2014. You think 5,000 LTE sites is a lot considering that Verizon's network comprises of 45,000 towers. Let me tell you it isn't considering that is only about 1/9 of the total towers spread out nationwide. You'll be lucky to get a stable LTE connection if you only have LTE BC 4 support considering the shorter range propagation characteristics of AWS spectrum. Anyone thinking of bringing over their Tmobile LTE phones to Verizon better think twice before doing that assuming they will get the same LTE range and coverage as its 700 MHz LTE network.
To me it is always easier to just sell the LTE phone that I am no longer a carrier with and buy the carrier branded LTE phone to avoid all this hassle of unlocking it and having to worry about frequency incompatibilities.
Verizon and att share an aws band. I know about phones, im not dumb. I was just exploring the possibility of it being achieved. If the phones have exactly same hardware across the board, than it means its software related, which in the android world, with alot of trial and error and work, most software issues can be overcome. Thanks for your huge rant though, you should go work for Verizon
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Verizon and att share an aws band. I know about phones, im not dumb. I was just exploring the possibility of it being achieved. If the phones have exactly same hardware across the board, than it means its software related, which in the android world, with alot of trial and error and work, most software issues can be overcome. Thanks for your huge rant though, you should go work for Verizon
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Dude. I know everything there is to know about this. AT&T uses AWS LTE in VERY VERY VERY few areas. You won't be able to get LTE with your Verizon G2 on 99% of their network.
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Has anyone bought the (at&t or T-mobile) version because of the back buttons were different than the Verizon version but than used the phone on Verizon service?
i want to continue using Verizon but there version of the lg g2 sucks!.
is it possible to use the one of the other versions on Verizons service?
if i can is there any bad sides to doing so?
thanks to anyone that can help :good:
The vzw version sucks because of the buttons? Lame! Sounds like a user issue.
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verizon model does have exclusive wireless charging built in
Haha well I can get use to the buttons on the back that Verizon has but the other versions just look so much better. I don't use wireless charging either
The style of Verizon's buttons arent going to stop me from getting the phone I just like the other version better
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Technically you should be able to use it since they are world phones and have radios for both GSM and CDMA. The problem you are going to have is getting Verizon to allow it. AT&T and T-mobile will allow you to use your Verizon phone on their network. All you have to do is give them the MEID. They will even provide the APN settings for you if you ask and they are on their website.
Verizon however, is reluctant to allow ESNs that are not on their list. Same with Sprint. It isn't impossible, but you will have to jump through some hoops. There are forms to be filled out, similar to the one's to reinstate an ESN that has been flagged. It's been a while, but I believe you're looking at about a 3 week wait to see if it's approved, if they even allow you to submit the forms. I know people that have moved their Sprint phone over to Verizon, but in the end, they all agreed that it wasn't worth the hassle and they would never do it again.
EDIT: Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm not 100% sure if the AT&T and T-mobile versions have CDMA and LTE antennas. Verizon's version has them all. It doesn't really make sense for Verizon's to get GSM antennas while the other's don't get CDMA or LTE. Then again, Verizon's was a modified version to allow wireless charging, so it wouldn't be out of the question.
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Technically you should be able to use it since they are world phones and have radios for both GSM and CDMA. The problem you are going to have is getting Verizon to allow it. AT&T and T-mobile will allow you to use your Verizon phone on their network. All you have to do is give them the MEID. They will even provide the APN settings for you if you ask and they are on their website.
Verizon however, is reluctant to allow ESNs that are not on their list. Same with Sprint. It isn't impossible, but you will have to jump through some hoops. There are forms to be filled out, similar to the one's to reinstate an ESN that has been flagged. It's been a while, but I believe you're looking at about a 3 week wait to see if it's approved, if they even allow you to submit the forms. I know people that have moved their Sprint phone over to Verizon, but in the end, they all agreed that it wasn't worth the hassle and they would never do it again.
EDIT: Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm not 100% sure if the AT&T and T-mobile versions have CDMA and LTE antennas. Verizon's version has them all. It doesn't really make sense for Verizon's to get GSM antennas while the other's don't get CDMA or LTE. Then again, Verizon's was a modified version to allow wireless charging, so it wouldn't be out of the question.
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Thanks, I never knew much about switching phones to new carriers, but now I don't think I'll take that route.
Verizon version will do than :thumbup:
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Thanks, I never knew much about switching phones to new carriers, but now I don't think I'll take that route.
Verizon version will do than :thumbup:
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You can't use the ATT or Tmo versions on sprint or vzw. Different radios.
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I would quite prefer the vzn version with metal buttons they are smaller button but I hadn't touched the buttons outside of booting from off and vol up occasionally
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You can't use the ATT or Tmo versions on sprint or vzw. Different radios.
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Thanks for clarifying. I looked it up myself. The AT&T and T-mobile versions lack CDMA 900 and LTE 13. Makes sense since the new nexus also skips the same bands thanks to Verizon being money grubbers.
the title says it, i kind of want to do this, maybe not for that long, most likely it would be temporary.
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the title says it, i kind of want to do this, maybe not for that long, most likely it would be temporary.
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No. Google it and you will find that Verizon and tmobile networks are different. Verizon is CDMA and tmobile is GSM. Or something like that.
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No. Google it and you will find that Verizon and tmobile networks are different. Verizon is CDMA and tmobile is GSM. Or something like that.
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I use Verizon phone on T-Mobile network. Verizon S5 has sim slot for sim cards. All Verizon 4LTE phones, GSM unlock.
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I use Verizon phone on T-Mobile network. Verizon S5 has sim slot for sim cards. All Verizon 4LTE phones, GSM unlock.
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This is true.
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U can use it but lte will not work tmobile is not compatible with Verizon lte
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U can use it but lte will not work tmobile is not compatible with Verizon lte
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It not true. I confirm LTE works fine with out any problem.
If you are able to use other carrier phones and just pop a Sim card in and your good to go, then in the future can I buy a variant of the phone I want with an unlocked bootloader and be rooted with no issues?
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If you are able to use other carrier phones and just pop a Sim card in and your good to go, then in the future can I buy a variant of the phone I want with an unlocked bootloader and be rooted with no issues?
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Nope, i'm actually surprised that Verizon didn't lock the phone if what the above poster said is true. The bootloader isn't what you need unlocked to move from carrier to carrier. Phones with sim cards are generally GSM and phones without sim cards are generally CDMA. GSM phones are normally locked to the specific carrier that you bought it from. CDMA phones are not usually taken on any other networks unless you are moving to a network like cricket which takes what it can get
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Nope, i'm actually surprised that Verizon didn't lock the phone if what the above poster said is true.
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As he said, Verizon 4G phones are all sim unlocked. Phones like this and the Note 2, which I just came from, have the CDMA and GSM bands. It is just as simple as putting in the SIM, change the APN, and be working. That said, the Note 2 could not get a 4G GSM signal only HSPA+ because of the bands it supported. I haven't checked the S5 yet, but I do believe I have seen that it does support some of the 4G GSM bands.
You are right about the CDMA part which is why it wouldn't be wise to buy, say a Sprint S5, and then come to Verizon because it does not support any CDMA bands.
so you guys can confirm that it is sim unlocked?
They always are. All Verizon Wireless 4G phones are SIM unlocked.
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As he said, Verizon 4G phones are all sim unlocked. Phones like this and the Note 2, which I just came from, have the CDMA and GSM bands. It is just as simple as putting in the SIM, change the APN, and be working. That said, the Note 2 could not get a 4G GSM signal only HSPA+ because of the bands it supported. I haven't checked the S5 yet, but I do believe I have seen that it does support some of the 4G GSM bands.
You are right about the CDMA part which is why it wouldn't be wise to buy, say a Sprint S5, and then come to Verizon because it does not support any CDMA bands.
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Bare with me if this seems like an absolutely stupid question.
When I travel I have a GSM HTC One S that I pop in a pre-paid SIM to use (say, 3 in Ireland). I believe this was a T-Mobile phone previously that I carrier unlocked. If I have a Verizon CDMA S5, I could pop in the 3 SIM and be able to use it (maybe not 4G depending on the bands) provided I updated the APN information?
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Bare with me if this seems like an absolutely stupid question.
When I travel I have a GSM HTC One S that I pop in a pre-paid SIM to use (say, 3 in Ireland). I believe this was a T-Mobile phone previously that I carrier unlocked. If I have a Verizon CDMA S5, I could pop in the 3 SIM and be able to use it (maybe not 4G depending on the bands) provided I updated the APN information?
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Correct. I used my Note 2 in multiple European countries, lastly in Rome where it was stolen. Take your Verizon sim out at the airport, put the new one in, change APN, and voila.
(carriers I have tested with - Orange, Vodafone(multiple places), 3, Rogers in Canada)
Your S5 on Verizon isn't solely CDMA. If you look up any website with the bands it supports, you will see the GSM bands.
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Correct. I used my Note 2 in multiple European countries, lastly in Rome where it was stolen. Take your Verizon sim out at the airport, put the new one in, change APN, and voila.
(carriers I have tested with - Orange, Vodafone(multiple places), 3, Rogers in Canada)
Your S5 on Verizon isn't solely CDMA. If you look up any website with the bands it supports, you will see the GSM bands.
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That's fantastic. Thank you!
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That's fantastic. Thank you!
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More than welcome. And here is the link so you can check the bands when looking at foreign carriers.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4408
And even without 4G, it is still plenty fast enough to use the internet, google maps, and stream music.
What if you canceled your service and went to tmobile. Would it still work?
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More than welcome. And here is the link so you can check the bands when looking at foreign carriers.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4408
And even without 4G, it is still plenty fast enough to use the internet, google maps, and stream music.
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Looks like the One S and S5 share the same GSM bands... I'll definitely have to try it out. I know my 3 SIM works here in the US too on the phone. Thanks again, really helpful.
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What if you canceled your service and went to tmobile. Would it still work?
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Yes, or Straight Talk, or whomever.
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Yes, or Straight Talk, or whomever.
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But Straight Talk don't have LTE.
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But Straight Talk don't have LTE.
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That wasn't the question. The question, as posed, was would it work? It absolutely will work with speeds up to HSPA+.
Will TMO be bound by the same restrictions re 700mhz as Verizon? My Verizon sold N7 works just fine with my TMO unlimited phone sim (have tried it many times); I'm not sure whether that's related to the above or that T-Mobile just doesn't see it as a tablet. My AT&T Note 8 does not work but that also doesn't have that band.
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Will TMO be bound by the same restrictions re 700mhz as Verizon? My Verizon sold N7 works just fine with my TMO unlimited phone sim (have tried it many times); I'm not sure whether that's related to the above or that T-Mobile just doesn't see it as a tablet. My AT&T Note 8 does not work but that also doesn't have that band.
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I don't really understand the question. T-Mobile 700mhz LTE may may not be deployed in your area yet. I know Nyc and its neighbors wont get it until beginning of next year.
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