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I was wondering if anybody would be so kind as to give me some pros/cons about overclocking my phone. Or a link to a topic as I'm sure there already is one, I searched but could not find.
Thanks,
Stew
calripkenturner said:
I was wondering if anybody would be so kind as to give me some pros/cons about overclocking my phone. Or a link to a topic as I'm sure there already is one, I searched but could not find.
Thanks,
Stew
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PROS: Your phone goes faster!
It goes slower while it's asleep, so more battery (as long as you program the profile in setcpu)!
CONS:Your phone might overheat.
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
calripkenturner said:
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
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First one, then the other
calripkenturner said:
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
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Why would one, and not the other? They are touching, and crammed together....
Negrito said:
Why would one, and not the other? They are touching, and crammed together....
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Idk just thought I should ask....
I just figure the phone has a failsafe. I have mine at 768 and only gets ridiculously hot when charging running Google navigation. Otherwise it's just slightly warmer. When it overheats the led flashes red green and I figure its slowing the charge or stopping it to compensate.
A computer will shutdown when the heat gets to an unmanageable level to prevent damage. I figure the phone would have something similar.
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HeroMeng said:
PROS: Your phone goes faster!
It goes slower while it's asleep, so more battery (as long as you program the profile in setcpu)!
CONS:Your phone might overheat.
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It doesnt go faster while its asleep.. It scales down like any other rom/kernel would when the phone is asleep.
If you really arent sure then dont ever use an OC'ing app. Just install the kernel and let it scale on its own.
calripkenturner said:
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
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Also the only thermometer thats close to the cpu is the battery. So its not the most accurate thing to watch since its not the actually cpu temps. Just a rough estimate. Also when it get to around 40 C then set the max clock down to around default clock speeds. Or simple just let the phone relax and dont touch it. You can also take the back cover off and let it get more air..
It doesnt get hot extremely easy, so its not like youll be sending a text and it gets hot. Its only after prolonged use or doing something thats keeping the cpu from not scaling down very much (game, tethering, or etc..)
PROS: Your phone goes faster!
It goes slower while it's asleep, so more battery (as long as you program the profile in setcpu)!
CONS:Your phone might overheat.
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It doesnt go faster why its asleep.. It scales down like any other rom would when the phone is asleep.
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I think he meant setcpu can scale at a lower then factory frequency. But that would actually not be overclocking =P
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I think he meant setcpu can scale at a lower then factory frequency. But that would actually not be overclocking =P
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It would actually be underclocking, yes. But it DOES give you better battery life!
HeroMeng said:
It would actually be underclocking, yes. But it DOES give you better battery life!
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I haven't noticed a difference setting my phone to 245mhz when it's asleep (well positively anyway). But when I unlock it is slow to a crawl, so I just set it 528mhz all the time and my battery life is unaffected but my phone is always very spunky.I don't have fresh toast on my phone so I haven't overclocked it yet (but may eventually)
I only had issues with overheating when charging, especially via USB to a computer. One commonly overlooked side effect is that Li-Ion batteries lose capacity faster at higher temperatures. The capacity degradation is a combination temperature, charge and number of charge cycles. The ideal situation is to be at 40% charge at 0C, but the hotter the battery, the more it degrades with time.
Hello does nexus s is overheating for you too ?
DZG said:
Hello does nexus s is overheating for you too ?
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define overheating. i push my ns to over 110F all the time. but that is by choice. if its hitting over 110 by itself, then its overheating. if its in the 90's then its not overheating. it does tend to get hot when plugged in and using the phone, especially when gaming or watching flash video.
does it need to be defined? I mean I can clearly feel that the device is pretty warm? So when I charge it I should turn off wifi, bluetoofs and kill all aps? If thats true when how my friend manages to play games while charging NS and get no heat at all, definetly something with the hardware is fcuked up
How can i see how hot my phone is? Mine gehts warm sometimes but i never considered it would overheat because of undervolting...
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does it need to be defined? I mean I can clearly feel that the device is pretty warm? So when I charge it I should turn off wifi, bluetoofs and kill all aps? If thats true when how my friend manages to play games while charging NS and get no heat at all, definetly something with the hardware is fcuked up
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How can i see how hot my phone is? Mine gehts warm sometimes but i never considered it would overheat because of undervolting...
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Edit: do you use kernels? Matr1x is my favourite...
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feeling warm to your hands is relative. that is not a temp indicator. try this experiment. get a cup of room temp water, a cup of ice water, and a cup of warm water. put one hand in the ice water, the other in the warm water for 1 minute. then put both hands in the room temp water at the same time. the hand that was in the ice water will feel like the room temp water is hot, the hand in the warm water will feel like the room temp water is cold. you will not believe the outcome, almost like your senses are deceiving you. clearly both hands are in the room temp water, yet both hand feel a differnt temperature
there are apps that will give you your phones battery temp, like secpu has a battery temperature monitor. that will be a little more accurate than what your hands are telling you. whenever you use your phone, the temp will go up. the processor and battery produce heat when used. the harder you use it, the hotter it will get. especially when its plugged in because of the electricity moving(also produces heat). i hope that helps somewhat and doesnt end up confusing you
Thank you for info, I will get heating problem fixed.
I just want to ask, because I dont want to create a new thread does you(nexus s users) get random reboots ? While having call or just BOOM it reboots itself.
DZG said:
Thank you for info, I will get heating problem fixed.
I just want to ask, because I dont want to create a new thread does you(nexus s users) get random reboots ? While having call or just BOOM it reboots itself.
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what rom and kernel. there are kernels that will do that. also, if you are undervolting/underclocking that could happen. usually a little more voltage should fix it.
about the heat again. ive gotten my phone so hot before, that it hurt holding in my hand that was when oc'd very high and benchmarking very hard. putting it in the fridge, at that point, helps
I dont have NS with me but its has latest android version. I heard that reboot problem is massive ? Or is it suppose to be fixed ?
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I dont have NS with me but its has latest android version. I heard that reboot problem is massive ? Or is it suppose to be fixed ?
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i havent heard of a reboot problem for a very long time.
Small tip: Press *#*#*4636#*#* in your dialer and click "Battery Information" to get a temperature reading.
Mine is at 40°C now, charging.
Greetz
frutelaken said:
Small tip: Press *#*#*4636#*#*# in your dialer and click "Battery Information" to get a temperature reading.
Mine is at 40°C now, charging.
Greetz
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Doesnt work for me...
Its to long somehow...
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4I-I said:
Doesnt work for me...
Its to long somehow...
sent from the best phone buyable in the matr1x, while eating kwiboos ics cream sandwich! ;D
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search battery temperature in the market, theres a zillion different apps(ok, a zillion is an exaggeration ).
frutelaken said:
Small tip: Press *#*#*4636#*#*# in your dialer and click "Battery Information" to get a temperature reading.
Mine is at 40°C now, charging.
Greetz
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Its *#*#4636#*#*
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Device: Nexus S i9023
Rom: BM Kwiboo ICS v3
Kernel: Matr1x ICS 11.5 cfs
Baseband: I9023XXKD1
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Its *#*#4636#*#*
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Device: Nexus S i9023
Rom: BM Kwiboo ICS v3
Kernel: Matr1x ICS 11.5 cfs
Baseband: I9023XXKD1
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Thanks tht woked!
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Ah what an unfortunate typo, thanks for pointing it out
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For me i get around 25c when idle and 26c - 28c when charging (its winter lol).
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feeling warm to your hands is relative. that is not a temp indicator. try this experiment. get a cup of room temp water, a cup of ice water, and a cup of warm water. put one hand in the ice water, the other in the warm water for 1 minute. then put both hands in the room temp water at the same time. the hand that was in the ice water will feel like the room temp water is hot, the hand in the warm water will feel like the room temp water is cold. you will not believe the outcome, almost like your senses are deceiving you. clearly both hands are in the room temp water, yet both hand feel a differnt temperature
there are apps that will give you your phones battery temp, like secpu has a battery temperature monitor. that will be a little more accurate than what your hands are telling you. whenever you use your phone, the temp will go up. the processor and battery produce heat when used. the harder you use it, the hotter it will get. especially when its plugged in because of the electricity moving(also produces heat). i hope that helps somewhat and doesnt end up confusing you
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Eeeeek! Thermodynamics!!
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I use Battery Monitor Widget from the market to tell me EVERYTHING I need to know about my battery and how it's performing.
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does you(nexus s users) get random reboots ? While having call or just BOOM it reboots itself.
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If you are running a custom kernel, it is usually a result of too much stress on the kernel (ex: overclocking). On stock kernel, I have never had that unless my phone froze up.
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I dont have NS with me but its has latest android version. I heard that reboot problem is massive ? Or is it suppose to be fixed ?
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If you are using the stock ROM and kernel i.e. never ROOTED your phone. Then you shouldn't be experiencing random reboots ...
I used to use my nexus phone while charging..... Now I'm not doing that knowing that it harms the battery....... now even if i use my phone for 2 minutes it's back gets too heated that u can even cook on it.... What the hell am i supposed to do now........nd my phone's battery drains like anything.... What the hell am i supposed to do now
teja101 said:
I used to use my nexus phone while charging..... Now I'm not doing that knowing that it harms the battery....... now even if i use my phone for 2 minutes it's back gets too heated that u can even cook on it.... What the hell am i supposed to do now........nd my phone's battery drains like anything.... What the hell am i supposed to do now
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what you can do is give us more info. battery temp? cpu temp? custom or stock? the back glass plate is glass so that your quad core cpu can transfer heat through it, thats how its supposed to cool off. thats why it feels hot. has the temp in your area warmed up for spring? btw, the heat isnt harming your phone. if it gets to hot, it shuts down by itself, as a safety. before that, itll reduce the cpu speed to keep it from getting to the shutdown point.
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I used to use my nexus phone while charging..... Now I'm not doing that knowing that it harms the battery....... now even if i use my phone for 2 minutes it's back gets too heated that u can even cook on it.... What the hell am i supposed to do now........nd my phone's battery drains like anything.... What the hell am i supposed to do now
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Because of the glass back it may seem hotter, whats the actual temperature? And battery temperatures are not the same as cpu temperatures
Yeah!!! Its summer now here!! Da temperature is around 35°c nd falls by nearly 5°c in da night
teja101 said:
Yeah!!! Its summer now here!! Da temperature is around 35°c
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with warmer temps around you, expect the device to get warmer. cool seasonal temps also keep the device cooler
So what can i do to save my battery life??
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So what can i do to save my battery life??
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Custom kernel with undervolting will help with temp and battery life. Star there.
Who else has this problem
The phone gets hot not warm not pleasant talking on it
Long calls are just not possible
Such a shame for a wonderful product
Its 2 days old
hbksabhi said:
Who else has this problem
The phone gets hot not warm not pleasant talking on it
Long calls are just not possible
Such a shame for a wonderful product
Its 2 days old
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My phone usually gets hot when I'm using 3g but don't get more than 2 bars of signal, try switching to 2g if you know that you're in a place where you won't get a good connection. Or even better, when you're talking, you might as well just turn mobile data off
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My phone usually gets hot when I'm using 3g but don't get more than 2 bars of signal, try switching to 2g if you know that you're in a place where you won't get a good connection. Or even better, when you're talking, you might as well just turn mobile data off
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going to return the phone
what value for money in this phone i dont understand
it fails as a phone
what the use such cool hardware if the device get unusable just becoz its hot
no fun
relly dissapointed
Yes I am also facing this problem since I got it but their is a solution flash rasbeanjelly ROM and Trinity kernel if your familiar with rooting .
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Yes I am also facing this problem since I got it but their is a solution flash rasbeanjelly ROM and Trinity kernel if your familiar with rooting .
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trinity or franco or faux ?
Have you tried flashing different radios? I would even flash back to stock, or try a different rom.
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Have you tried flashing different radios? I would even flash back to stock, or try a different rom.
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where are the radios and how to flash them ??
hbksabhi said:
where are the radios and how to flash them ??
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You really need to learn how to use the search, you sure you wouldnt prefer the iphone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087227&highlight=radio
actually i never ran code most of the time and had A samsung Note and defy before which never required commands
no problem i will learn it now
iphone has toooo many restrictions and i dont have money tooo
op.. its supposed to get hot. that's why it has a glass back, to cool off quicker. thats why you feel the heat. if you are worried about heat, dont buy a quad core device. buy a dumb phone and itll remain cool.
but that is not a problem with s4 or note 2 ??
so that doesnt justify
hbksabhi said:
but that is not a problem with s4 or note 2 ??
so that doesnt justify
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its not a problem with the n4 either. the problem is all in your head. again, it has a glass back to transfer the heat out of the phone quicker. because its glass, you will feel it more. s4 and the note 2 have plastic backs, so you feel it less.
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besides op, what temperature is it reaching that you are complaining about, how it feels isnt an accurate temperature reading.
Guys stop embarrassing me
Actually I'm not comparing about heat on the back that's tolerable but its get way too got near the earpiece so that's why I'm complaining
I notice it a lot when I get a call in between my 3G usage
hbksabhi said:
Guys stop embarrassing me
Actually I'm not comparing about heat on the back that's tolerable but its get way too got near the earpiece so that's why I'm complaining
I notice it a lot when I get a call in between my 3G usage
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way too hot is what temperature(cpu temp)? im not trying to embarrass you, im trying to let you know that its normal, but you refuse to accept it. so, give more detail, what temp is your phone reaching? hot isnt an answer, hot and feel are relative terms.
The s4 does get hot too, I just had it.
But on the bright side, the nexus 4 is cozy in the winter
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way too hot is what temperature(cpu temp)? im not trying to embarrass you, im trying to let you know that its normal, but you refuse to accept it. so, give more detail, what temp is your phone reaching? hot isnt an answer, hot and feel are relative terms.
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i wasnt running anything yesterday to monitor temp ........
but right now i started using it
and only have battery temp with me and it says 36 degree celsius and whats the best app for cpu temp monitoring ??
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i wasnt running anything yesterday to monitor temp ........
but right now i started using it
and only have battery temp with me and it says 36 degree celsius and whats the best app for cpu temp monitoring ??
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there are a few out there, i use the trinity kernel toolbox app. just search cpu temp in the play store. for battery, 60C is the safety temp. for cpu, 95C or 100C is the safety temp. the cpu os near the top of the phone, thats why it feels hot near the earpiece. its normal for the phones cpu temp to shoot up while the cpu is being used. when the screen goes off, itll cool down quickly.
im using trinity kernel now and have installed the toolbox and it shoe 1026 hz clock ??
why is it undervolted ?
hbksabhi said:
im using trinity kernel now and have installed the toolbox and it shoe 1026 hz clock ??
why is it undervolted ?
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Thats not undervolted, and I suggest you dont touch voltages atm and if you do make sure "set on boot" isnt checked.
That speed is just set lower, not sure if that kernel does that for you but you can set that higher if you wish.
all right ....running trinity and its not that hot now
Hi all,
My phone started overheating on the most basic of tasks, when I browse the Web it burns through 1% of battery every minute and the top of the phone (both back and the screen) gets unbearably hot. I tied different browsers and it does it with all of them.
Any advice on how to fix this?
Thank you.
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How hot is the CPU getting?
3r4s3r said:
How hot is the CPU getting?
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I haven't checked the temperature per se but both the screen and the back around the camera get hot to the point where you can hardly touch them. Something is triggering the CPU to run like crazy when browsing.
Are you using Lollipop? I think thats why. My phone gets hot with lowest brightness and only widi enabled after 2 minutes of browsing reddit. Its very hot...
rubric9 said:
Are you using Lollipop? I think thats why. My phone gets hot with lowest brightness and only widi enabled after 2 minutes of browsing reddit. Its very hot...
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No I am actually on KitKat which is the weird thing. I thought it was meant to be stable!!
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No I am actually on KitKat which is the weird thing. I thought it was meant to be stable!!
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Yea that is weird. I want to go back on KitKat cause my telephone is very hot. :/
How much battery does KitKat normally use when people browse the web on wifi for an hour? Cuz for me it is literally 50-60% in an hour's time. Should I factory reset? Don't really feel like it but if it is my only option...
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I checked the temperature, it hovers around 68-70 C when browsing the web. Is this normal? GSM Arena are reporting 11+ hours of browsing on this, I can get maybe 2-3 hours at best, no more than that.
jamike77 said:
I checked the temperature, it hovers around 68-70 C when browsing the web. Is this normal? GSM Arena are reporting 11+ hours of browsing on this, I can get maybe 2-3 hours at best, no more than that.
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This is def way too hot for browsing. In fact even when i push my phone as hard as possible i dont get much higher than 60C. Browsing and normal use will be around 50C. And yes SOT is around 5 to 7 hrs on a charge. I usually can go 1.5 to 2 days before charging. I would try factory reset. If it doesnt work see if you can get it replaced.
that will damage your touch screen, did you try intalling tot?
GARDev said:
that will damage your touch screen, did you try intalling tot?
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sorry what is a tot?
GARDev said:
that will damage your touch screen, did you try intalling tot?
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sorry what is tot?
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sorry what is tot?
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this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
Had a similar problem with my old Optimus L9 (it was hot all the time, and discharged around 1%/min), Lg exchanged the motherboard without asking. Try to reflash the rom first. If it stays the same, then it's hw issue.
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