Hello everyone.
A long time Xda follower (even though i post little).
I recently bought a Galaxy S4 9505 and had a couple of questions. Previously I had the 9300 and modding that was very easy. Now due to the knox bootloader I am a bit confused.
I want basically install the google 4.4.2 rom on my phone. So i know I need to first root my phone and then install a custom recovery. Is this possible on the official 4.4.2 from Germany? Would there be any potential problems I might run in?
Thanks a lot everyone.
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If you flash a custom recovery ur warranty will be void (KNOX: 0x1). This mean u wont have warranty anymore. If u bought it now and u have 2 years of warranty, think about it :highfive:
*EDIT: Answering your questions:
- You dont need root for flash a custom recovery.
- You can flashs ROMs with the latest German android 4.4.2
The knox counter does not "erase" the warranty completly. If you are having problems with your device which are caused from unsigned firmwares/kernels/mods then samsung will not repar your device. If your volume rocker falls off then samsung will repair it.
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That is just perfect. Thanks for your help guys. However if i dont have to root to install a custom recovery, can i still install other roms? Like the 9505g port? Or would that require root?
Plus warranty doesnt matter much regarding knox since I am in europe.
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Sure you can. Install a custom recovery using Odin, download the rom you want (4.4.2 Google Edition in you case), copy it to sdcard, wipe /system, /data , /cache and /dalvik cache.
Then install the rom and reboot
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Thank you so much. Tonight I will do that. Cheers!
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mkabani said:
Thank you so much. Tonight I will do that. Cheers!
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You may want to back up your phone after installing a custom recovery. You can do that in the recovery. Safety first
S4 9505 / Note 10.1 2014 P600
Hit the Thanks button if I was able to help you
did u do it?? im thinking to install custom rom 2 i dont care about knox
I will back it up as soon as its downloaded.
And no I havent installed it yet, but i will do it tonight. Knox isnt worth the hassle .
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ok let me know if you do it and if it works then i will try it aswell
any news did u do it in the end?
Yes i did. I PMd you. Thanks to the XDA community i finally installed the google edition rom and am enjoying it since last night
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Hi all,
Is it possible too flash a custom recovery via goo manager in a stock root injected I-9500 ?
If yes then wouldn't we be able to flash roms without odin via the recovery and the flash counter would remain at zero ?
I am tempted to try this. But seems too simple for others not to have tried this before me.
Let me know if I am totally missing something and if some one has tried this before.
hellboy13 said:
Hi all,
Is it possible too flash a custom recovery via goo manager in a stock root injected I-9500 ?
If yes then wouldn't we be able to flash roms without odin via the recovery and the flash counter would remain at zero ?
I am tempted to try this. But seems too simple for others not to have tried this before me.
Let me know if I am totally missing something and if some one has tried this before.
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Not possible to install custom software on and from a not rooted S4 atm. Security has tightened since the S and S2.
I am rooted.
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I am rooted. Using a stock rom with su baked in.
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hellboy13 said:
I am rooted.
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Then you allredy have the counter raised, 1 or 10 will not make a difference for warranty. That`s gone allready bro if they check that and unfortunately triangle Away doesn`t work yet for the I9500.
I have used this for root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
This doesnt effect flash counter.
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Hello,
I have been trying to figure out a few things with the S4 and read a lot of stuff but I have a few unanswered question.
I come from using NExus phones since Nexus 1. Unlock Phone, install CWM and then use it to flash roms or rooting scripts.
Now, I have S4. I am still with their STOCK on I337M (Canadian Model) and I rooted using CF-Auto-Root and ODIN.
What I don't understand, is:
- Can I flash CWM and then just use CWM and SuperSU-vx.xx.zip to root? Why Use Odin?
- Now that I am rooted, if I new SAMSUNG firmware comes along, I am assuming it will fail, I will have to unroot and then apply firmware and then root again? How do I unroot? "Full Unroot" from the option in the app just like the Nexus phones?
- S4 has a counter from what I read, but lot's of warning about bricking phone is that only active on Samsung stock? What if I flash a google stock?
- Can I just use Rom Manager Pro as I used to with Nexus devices...
if I flash CWM, is it replacing ODIN? Is odin a recovery like Odin! If anyone can point out and explain the difference between CWM , ODIN, Nexus phones and S4 it would be great...
I know that now when I go to download mode (Is that like fastboot?) it shows binary as being custom, but I don't get a yellow triangle when I boot...
Thanks for any info regarding explaining what ODIN is...
I also noticed although I have 16GB phone, 6.38GB is system! That is huge! Is that normal?
There are some nice features that I would not like to lose, so I stuck with samsung and just use NOVA home screen...
This is actually the "ATT Galaxy S4Active" forum. S4 forum will have answers to all your S4 questions.
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Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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ssss25 said:
Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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Hi,
It seems that you have been around the houses.
The place you are looking for is HERE
Thanks.. I will do some more reading to try to find answers.. looks like my post just got moved.
Thanks
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Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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I just went through the un root because I was only using it for one thing. I ended up flashing the original ROM using Odin then doing a factory reset and cache wipe. Now waiting for the update not sure I will root until S4 is not longer updated by Samsung.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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Hi,
Look HERE
OTA will remove root,and the latest will lock down your bootloader.
Hi
I have AMG1... I think this is the latest one but I was able to root.. Will locking boot loader prevent rooting.. Could it be another one for at only?
Thanks
Note: yes. I did notice chainfires note.. But he doesn't say what load is the latest.. There are so many Samsung s4 models devices.. Each with different models its so confusing
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I just installed CWM on latest version of Canadian I337M AMG1... Its good so far.
Xda modder.. There are differences between i337 att and Canadian i337m.. No forum specific to the Canadian folks?
Thanks...
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Anybody heard any news about when to expect the kitkat update in the UK?
Cant get an answer from samsung on facebook.
Thanks
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Anybody heard any news about when to expect the kitkat update in the UK?
Cant get an answer from samsung on facebook.
Thanks
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you can get it now if you want just go to www.sammobile.com download flash with odin done
Yeah i dont fancy tripping knox flashing it with doin though I'd rather wait for the UK version
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You won't trip knox by installing it through odin
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Yeah i dont fancy tripping knox flashing it with doin though I'd rather wait for the UK version
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it wont tripp knox and as your in uk knox dont matter we are void from knox some law
Ah right I thought using odin would trip knox, will I not need to update my bootloader in order to install the Polish firmware?
Also will i be able to revert back to the UK firmware once it has been released?
Thanks guys
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Ah right I thought using odin would trip knox, will I not need to update my bootloader in order to install the Polish firmware?
Also will i be able to revert back to the UK firmware once it has been released?
Thanks guys
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yes you have to get bootloader and when uk comes out you might have to flash again with odin
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/update-gal...id-4-4-2-kitkat-official-firmware-how-1433140
heres the update if you want to do it
but you cant go back to 4.3 and ive read 4.4.2 is a bit buggy
Maybe that's why they haven't rolled it out in other countries yet, I will probably just wait then because I use my note 3 as my daily driver so I'd rather it was 100%
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TechRadar website:
"Samsung UK will announce rollout plans for Android 4.4 in due course."
so,i think....soon
freszu said:
TechRadar website:
"Samsung UK will announce rollout plans for Android 4.4 in due course."
so,i think....soon
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sweet :fingers-crossed:
I'm on Vodafone in the UK and have kit kat, works fine and hasn't tripped my knox. .. enjoy..
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hypnodaz said:
I'm on Vodafone in the UK and have kit kat, works fine and hasn't tripped my knox. .. enjoy..
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same for me,only thing that don't work is sky sports mobile
there is no need to install a different bootloader
I chose the Spotify package and can confirm that it works fine. .when I first flashed I had a Samsung keyboard issue, but did a full factory reset and it's gone now..also rooted and cwm recovery installed with no issues..
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I have a note 3 locked to 3 carrier..if I download the leaked update and flash it using Odin (my fone is not rooted) will it cause any problems?
Since my fone is carrier locked and 3 haven't pushed an update yet.
Thanks in advance
P.s I'm a total noon at flashing so sorry in advance for dumb questions.
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pac-mannan said:
I have a note 3 locked to 3 carrier..if I download the leaked update and flash it using Odin (my fone is not rooted) will it cause any problems?
Since my fone is carrier locked and 3 haven't pushed an update yet.
Thanks in advance
P.s I'm a total noon at flashing so sorry in advance for dumb questions.
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I think it is not a 100% safe thing to try to update a carrier-locked Note3 - given that you also do not have a lot of experience I would suggest waiting a little more (and in the meantime reading in the many threads around and searching for somobody else with a carrier-locked Note 3 from the same 3 UK carrier).
You can get a free unlock code from three, got mine installed polish kit kat no problems.
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Just to mention that some 3rd party apps still require updates from developers to work on 4.4 so if you don't mind waiting a month or two this should also give them time too.
So if I get it unlocked, then its OK to flash the official update?
Basically I just want yo know the effect of flashing an official ROM on a carrier locked fone.
Yeah I've been reading the threads so I know how to flash it using Odin.just wanted to know will it be OK or will my fone go KU-KU
Sorry if I'm eating your brains
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You can flash even if it's network locked. It will stay network locked... But won't be a problem. You can also get your phone unlocked free from three.
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You will loose root unless you use mobile odin with the keep root feature, and boot into download, then flash the bootloader. I don't think there's a de la vega style root on 4.4.
hello..
i got note 3 sm n9005 (uk model),i tried to root my phone odin says pass,but it wont go to recovery mode it restarts and stuck on screen saying recovery is not seandroid enforcing" in red and another in yellow saying" set warranty bit.it wont let me root my phone,,,pls help me with this
thanks
That means you have succesfully put a custom recovery on your phone via odin. Stock wont show anything, but anything other than stock, that will show. I can only assume your on JB(4.3) still and have flashed a recovery for KK(4.4)
Im from the uk too, using chenglus 11/21 recovery on my jb rom.
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Make sure you are using the right cf auto root file. One is for 4.4 and the other is for 4.3.
edit: didn't read it completely, what did you use to root your phone?
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I've never used cf auto root. To root my first rom ( stock rom) i just flashed a custom recovery, and then flashed a superuser zip inside cwm
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celderic said:
I've never used cf auto root. To root my first rom ( stock rom) i just flashed a custom recovery, and then flashed a superuser zip inside cwm
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Did that worked? As far as I know to flash a custom recovery you have to be rooted first.
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Yes works fine. Have done it a few times on the n9005, and many times on other devices. You don't even need a rom to flash a custom recovery, or stock recovery for that matter.
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celderic said:
Yes works fine. Have done it a few times on the n9005, and many times on other devices. You don't even need a rom to flash a custom recovery, or stock recovery for that matter.
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When I first got mine it will not flash cwm without rooting it first but mine was N900W8 so might be different situation.
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hey_joe said:
When I first got mine it will not flash cwm without rooting it first but mine was N900W8 so might be different situation.
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Really? Im suprised, never heard of that before. Although i only read information related to my device, the n9005.
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Hi All
I am new to this Galaxy S4 Forum and want to root and install Custom Recovery for enjoying custom roms.
Can I root my device with "CF-Auto Root"? I have attached screenshot showing my phone's details here.
Thank you n sorry for the noob question.
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Yes
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If your phone warrenty not necessarily for you then u should go on.
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remember rooting with cf autoroot will trip ur knox counter to 0x1, meaning your warranty will be gone. use towelroot method instead.
Poroto said:
remember rooting with cf autoroot will trip ur knox counter to 0x1, meaning your warranty will be gone. use towelroot method instead.
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Don't suggest towelroot if your not willing to test it yourself ? That's like asking someone to brick their phone intentionally ?
If you won't do it don't suggest someone to experiment for you
11calcal said:
Don't suggest towelroot if your not willing to test it yourself ? That's like asking someone to brick their phone intentionally ?
If you won't do it don't suggest someone to experiment for you
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you should really get your facts straight before accusating someone of anything. i've just used towelroot on my i9500 and it worked like a charm, didnt even trip knox.
Poroto said:
you should really get your facts straight before accusating someone of anything. i've just used towelroot on my i9500 and it worked like a charm, didnt even trip knox.
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Well try updating the thread you opened asking if anyone had used it ?
XDA is a community & people share tips & results. If you updated your thread then you could maybe helping others ??
So in your reply "get your facts straight" I didn't have the facts to make a decision on Ok
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Well try updating the thread you opened asking if anyone had used it ?
XDA is a community & people share tips & results. If you updated your thread then you could maybe helping others ??
So in your reply "get your facts straight" I didn't have the facts to make a decision on Ok
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you shouldnt be suggesting me not to use others phones as experiments if you never ever had the facts (as u stated in ur last post). But whatever, just use towelroot if you don feel like tripping knox. good luck !
Thanks for the reply guys.
My phone is not in warrenty period.Its finished just before 2 days. So I am thinking to root it. And if warranty doesn't matter it is ok to use CF Auto root? Please link me to the CF Auto root and compatible CWM recovery for S4 i9500.
And one more thing I don't know about 'towelroot'.
Thanks...
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11calcal said:
Well try updating the thread you opened asking if anyone had used it ?
XDA is a community & people share tips & results. If you updated your thread then you could maybe helping others ??
So in your reply "get your facts straight" I didn't have the facts to make a decision on Ok
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totally agree....the guy makes a thread asking if anyone's tried it, but said he didn't want to try it himself because he didn't want to risk doing it on his own phone.....then goes telling other people to use it?
U should visit chanfire post and u will be known everything about root.
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vishaldhamnekar said:
Thanks for the reply guys.
My phone is not in warrenty period.Its finished just before 2 days. So I am thinking to root it. And if warranty doesn't matter it is ok to use CF Auto root? Please link me to the CF Auto root and compatible CWM recovery for S4 i9500.
And one more thing I don't know about 'towelroot'.
Thanks...
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Yes it's fine to use chainfires autoroot
Here's the link to cf autoroot for i9500-just follow his instructions
Also the link to philz recovery here
You just need to download the .tar file from him & flash it just like you did with autoroot in odin
Thanks bro...
I have rooted my S4 with CF Auto root. But When I am trying to open Supersu app I am getting this msg, something about disable Knox.See the Screenshot. And tell me what to do?
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Flash a custom recovery Philz recovery for example then flash custom rom because stock firmware has knox security built in!
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Thanks...
I will flash PhilZ recovery. But what I do now. Do I tap on OK to disable KNOX?
And while flashing PhilZ Touch recovery do I face any problem like Bootloader Unlock or something like that?
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Press ok or uninstall knox or disable knox. ..
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Press ok...I will automatically disable or if knox not disable do manually...
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vishaldhamnekar said:
Thanks...
I will flash PhilZ recovery. But what I do now. Do I tap on OK to disable KNOX?
And while flashing PhilZ Touch recovery do I face any problem like Bootloader Unlock or something like that?
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You shouldn't run into any problems just flash with odin and once flash is complete do a nandroid backup before flashing a new custom rom
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I have successfully flashed PhilZ recovery.
Can I flash any Rom available for S4 i9500 to my device through this recovery? Or do I have to change recovery everytime to taste different Roms? Sorry for bad English.
Thanks...
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Yes you can do that.
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unable to root with towelroot!!!!
Poroto said:
you should really get your facts straight before accusating someone of anything. i've just used towelroot on my i9500 and it worked like a charm, didnt even trip knox.
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I tried on my gt-i9500 and it shows that my device is not supported!!
Please help me if there is something I missed as I am new to rooting.
What I understood is that towelroot will not void warranty so I am keen on it. Thank you