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Project of testing Exmor R Camera on Sony Ericsson Xperia Series

Dear all members,
I have managed to do a little project of testing the Exmor R Camera on Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc with comparison with Xperia Play and iphone 4.
Below is a box meant to test out Exmor R Camera which there is a photo of Android Figurine inside the box with total darkness and there is a hole on the top which allow the camera to be placed on top of the hole to test whether the camera can be capable to capture the image inside the box.
Photo of the Box for testing the Exmor R Camera :
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Side View of the Box :
Xperia Arc and iphone 4 for testing :
Xperia Play for testing :
1) Putting test on iphone 4 to take photo under low light condition
2) Putting test on Xperia Arc to take photo under low light condition
3) Putting test on Xperia Play to take photo under low light condition
End Results - Image taken by iphone 4, Xperia Arc and Xperia Play under low light condition
1) iphone 4
2) Xperia Arc
3) Xperia Play

xperia arc pwned iphone 4 and play!

Any chance you could repeat this test with video modes?
Im curious

Great work, I am really impressed to see how well the exmor manages to record the colors in near dark

wow ... thx dude ... nice worK
yeeeh ... this is it ... XPERIA ARC

Really nice, Now to put this to good use

Nice!! I want to take some pics in the dark with my Xperia
I have seen a similar video somewhere.. In a SE expo stand..
Yeah here it is ..
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/02/16/exmor-r™-for-mobile/

As long as I know, it can't take photo in complete dark place. It need just a little light. Or.... may be a little light to bright up the exmor r cencor.
GN Multimedia - Xperia Arc

wooow
Awesome ,, very nice results

Any chance to compare with Galaxy SII's camera ?

I did a quick night time test with the Sony Arc and iPhone 4.
What do you think? Which one is better?
http://honglong1976.wordpress.com/2011/09/16/iphone-4-versus-sony-xperia-arc/
I think the Arc's is better initially as you can see more, but the iPhone 4 photo over exposed slightly wins for me.
The colours on the iPhone for everything, road, fence, sky, etc are all spot on and look like they did at the time. The Sony Arc looks far too processed with the colours being incorrect.
If only Sony would reduce the compression more, and make the phone take more natural photos. Winner!

I heard a rumor that Apple is trying get license Exmor R for next I-Phone

ShyamSasi said:
I heard a rumor that Apple is trying get license Exmor R for next I-Phone
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LOL they will just sue SE and state they invented the camera, lens and all associated technology.

Lord Takyon said:
LOL they will just sue SE and state they invented the camera, lens and all associated technology.
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Evil apple

ShyamSasi said:
I heard a rumor that Apple is trying get license Exmor R for next I-Phone
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I dun think Sony will approve this License if Apple really apply.
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honglong said:
I did a quick night time test with the Sony Arc and iPhone 4.
What do you think? Which one is better?
http://honglong1976.wordpress.com/2011/09/16/iphone-4-versus-sony-xperia-arc/
I think the Arc's is better initially as you can see more, but the iPhone 4 photo over exposed slightly wins for me.
The colours on the iPhone for everything, road, fence, sky, etc are all spot on and look like they did at the time. The Sony Arc looks far too processed with the colours being incorrect.
If only Sony would reduce the compression more, and make the phone take more natural photos. Winner!
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Thanks for the comparison, it is interesting to see how it compares with other phone lenses as well as seeing how it manages to capture pictures under dificult scenarios.
I do not agree as to which is better, to me there is more details and much less noise in the Xperia ARC picture, just look at the number and text on the garbage can and the white text on the light pole to the left. It is all blurry and noisy on the iPhone and much cleaner on the Xperia.
If I sit back and look at all three I would also prefer the more clean look of the xperia arc than the noisy and messy iPhone pictures.
Can you access the picture info and see what shutter speeds and ISOs each image is captured with? You could try to change the scene mode on the ARC as this also changes how the ARC prioritizes between ISO and shutterspeeds as well as limiting the max ISO allowed.

xperia is great in all ways

I'm not sure if you shot your comparisons all in auto or not. But if you did then the results are inconclusive. You need to take more control of the settings to maximize results from each camera. Also, if you shoot at ISO 100 with the arc, you must shoot at ISO 100 with the iPhone for accurate results. If the arc happens to fire a shot at ISO 100 and the iPhone fires its shot at say ISO 250....the iPhone will obviously show more noise. Higher ISO =faster shutter speed and more sensitivity to light but higher ISO also =more noise. Do you mind sharing the EXIF data from the images?

lol Exmor R technologie is from sony so sony holds all rights to that

Arc
the most sensitive camera sensor in mobiles! its far from perfect but there is nothing bettrer than Exmor R in low light conditions

Sony Xperia S Camera comparison vs Arc

I went to a Sony Mobile "Insider on Tour" event tonight and got the chance to have a look at the S, P, and U.. I also took 2 photo's one with my current arc, and one with the S.. I've stuck them together, side by side and here's the result.. The camera on the S is incredible.
[EDIT : FYI - I took both pictures with default settings.. and the S photo was taken from standby to test the quick shot feature.. it took the photo in under 2 seconds.. easily. The 2 photo's were cropped and I used the left hand side of each to make this image, no post processing on the image quality at all.. just cropped and added the labels.]
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Interesting. Look at the seat numbers, and the seats at the back... The Arc resolves them, the S does not.
The S may have better shadow noise, but it looks like the Arc has better detail. Of course, for the S, you did not have that bright spotlight in the frame to throw off metering either

Rashkae said:
Of course, for the S, you did not have that bright spotlight in the frame to throw off metering either
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I think he cropped that out of the S' photo.

Not a fair comparison IMO. Would be a much better one without those light sources.
Anyways, it does seem the picture taken by arc to have more resolved detail.

Haha, Arc seems better!

Could you post some more pics, please?
Snapdragon S3 keeps me away from the new devices, but the camera might change that.
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I did crop the two photos...just took the left side of each.
The handling of the light sources was what made it such a good comparison..
I only had it in my hand for 2 minutes so only managed to take that photo and Bluetooth it to my arc..
The s handled amazingly well.. And the camera really was very impressive..
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I have unfortunately read a review for the Xperia s that states the camera as having the same jpeg compression as the arc s, ray and neo. I truly hope this isn't the case as I was extremely let down but the quality from the arc s camera.
I believe this review might have been posted on Engadget today?
If anyone has some proper hands on experience with some outdoors shots compared to arc s, iPhone 4s and sgs2, please post your findings on which has the better detail and quality, megapixels withstanding.

Flo95 said:
Could you post some more pics, please?
Snapdragon S3 keeps me away from the new devices, but the camera might change that.
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What's wrong with that? It's a decent chipset.

harlz said:
I have unfortunately read a review for the Xperia s that states the camera as having the same jpeg compression as the arc s, ray and neo. I truly hope this isn't the case as I was extremely let down but the quality from the arc s camera.
I believe this review might have been posted on Engadget today?
If anyone has some proper hands on experience with some outdoors shots compared to arc s, iPhone 4s and sgs2, please post your findings on which has the better detail and quality, megapixels withstanding.
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There are some photos posted in xperia s forum. One user posted there a link for full size images captured by the device. Haven't checked in 100% magnification though.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530157
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doomed151 said:
What's wrong with that? It's a decent chipset.
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New flagship devices use the S4 (like HTC One X). It's as fast as the Tegra 3. Also the rumoured Hayabusa/Mint from Sony (autumn flagship) will have the S4.

sdk16420 said:
New flagship devices use the S4 (like HTC One X). It's as fast as the Tegra 3. Also the rumoured Hayabusa/Mint from Sony (autumn flagship) will have the S4.
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Maybe because of time constraints to test S4 platform for Q1 release? Xperia S is now on sale. HTC S4 devices will come this Q2.
Waiting for an S4 device with Sony branding!

doomed151 said:
What's wrong with that? It's a decent chipset.
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S4 chipset is as fast as Tegra 3, so the S3 chipset is slow in comparison.
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The quality doesn't look much different. Maybe a bit, but I think the arc is still pretty decent.

Are there any more comparisons?

N8 camera owns arc& xperia s cameras - sad, but true . N8>X10>XS>arc

Camera test! Xperia z1 vs htc one

CAMERA TEST!!!
SONY XPERIA Z1 VS HTC ONE
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XPERIA Z1 USE 3MP RESOLUTION
HTC ONE USE 4MP RESOLUTION
FULL RESOLUTION IMAGES YOU CAN DOWNLOAD FROM HERE:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-KHHWZwk32tZmE4UVhUN21jbEk/edit?usp=sharing
TEST 1
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Xperia Z1 bad!
HTC One WIN, image captured HTC is very good, natural, no yellow tint and no blur.

MixaDJ said:
HTC One WIN, image captured HTC is very good, natural, no yellow tint and no blur.
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Xperia Z1 is clear winer!!!!
No yellow hue!!!
No blur!!!
Htc One have, black and white tint!! No natural colors
Picture was taken with Xperia Z1 is a lot sharper, and more natural!!!

Can you provide us the original pictures?cause it's all thumbnails.

Djuro89 said:
Xperia Z1 is clear winer!!!!
No yellow hue!!!
No blur!!!
Htc One have, black and white tint!! No natural colors
Picture was taken with Xperia Z1 is a lot sharper, and more natural!!!
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Whoever loses has the right to be angry!
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Can you provide us the original pictures?cause it's all thumbnails.
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Imo test 9,10,11 = z1
Test 1/8 = HTC one.

Typical Htc One algorism of Over exposure the Scene. Z1 can come closer to the subjects too. but the yellow tint in flash of the htc one is better than the colder z1 other than that i like the Sony
Also the htc one softining the lower right quarter is still there .. ---> check the Sofa and the carpet image.
where is the low light with flash off images of both ? and the extreme low light landscape with Night mode on/off on both ?

Djuro89 said:
Htc One have, black and white tint!! No natural colors
Picture was taken with Xperia Z1 is a lot sharper, and more natural!!!
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Where are the reference shots ? How to tell which one is more accurate.
more natural or pleasing is subjective.
How hard was it for you to take these shots with Z1. Was it SA or did you manually set ISO and then 3.5MP.
How long it took to set up Z1 to take shots.

I dont know what modes were used, but (not being biased) HTC looks beter (I have Z1). I guess in harsh conditions situation can be different, It seems that Z1 is preserving more detail in highlights.

One Twelve said:
Where are the reference shots ? How to tell which one is more accurate.
more natural or pleasing is subjective.
How hard was it for you to take these shots with Z1. Was it SA or did you manually set ISO and then 3.5MP.
How long it took to set up Z1 to take shots.
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See the sofa pic of the htc and take a look at the lower right quarter ..
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One Twelve said:
Where are the reference shots ? How to tell which one is more accurate.
more natural or pleasing is subjective.
How hard was it for you to take these shots with Z1. Was it SA or did you manually set ISO and then 3.5MP.
How long it took to set up Z1 to take shots.
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Used manual mode. ISO on the Z1 was set at (ISO 100), and EXPOSITION depending on the image between (1, -0,5)

Djuro89 said:
Used manual mode. ISO on the Z1 was set at (ISO 100), and EXPOSITION depending on the image between (1, -0,5)
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Upload the full sized photos so they can see which was more realistic. You can use tinypic.com for that.
( taske ubaci im cele slike da mogu da vide ko je bio priblizniji realnosti , možeš na tinypic.com da staviš pa ovde forum linkove. Ili na flickr )
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both are pretty terrible

Shan89 said:
Upload the full sized photos so they can see which was more realistic. You can use tinypic.com for that.
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Doesn't tinypic automatically reduce the size of the photos to 1600 pix.
The full size are available from the links posted already and i've viewed them. eg, take test1, url for Z1 photo is
http://s21.postimg.org/ln95pkq8n/image.jpg
to get orginal use
http://postimg.org/image/ln95pkq8n/full
and so on...hence postimg is better than tinypic for our purposes. maybe OP can edit his post to include these links so they are avialibel just by clicking on the photos.
Now, the difficult bit is to agree on the criteria to use to judge these photos.
If we take pixel peeping, the limits of h1 are quite apparent in 1:1 view. The Z1 at 1,536 × 2,048 JPEG (3.1 megapixels) is more clear than the h1 at 1,520 × 2,688 JPEG (4.1 megapixels). Using this criteria ALL the Z1 pics at lower than h1 resolution are better.
Now if you say that its not necessary to do cropping or zooming then this criteria cannot be used. Maybe its unfair too as the Z1 with higher resolution sensor is down sampling and has an unassailable advantage over the h1.
The other thing is the Z1 camera settings have been tweaked, a number of times EV comp is used. Also WB has been manually set in the outdoor shots. Whereas the h1 had WB in auto for all shots and no ev compensation was applied. I don't know how skilled the h1 person who took these photos was but the Z1 person is skilled and took above avg photos as a result. So the camera knowledge of either photographer or lack thereof plays a role in image quality.

As I have also said over at ONE forum...(i have both phones)
The Z1 certainly have the hardware to be a great camera IF Sony ever put in the effort...
The auto feature that (let's be honest) most people will use, sucks big time, and that is a real shame...
The HTC ONE, on the other have a almost perfect auto feature, fast and sharp pictures (with crappy colours), but the hardware is only a 4mp sensor, and that is so last century...
AND nothing software wise can be done to improve on lack of modern hardware...
Who will make a compare to say a Xperia V instead, that would be a lot more interesting...
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chesterr said:
Can you provide us the original pictures?cause it's all thumbnails.
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Bro, you can download from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-KHHWZwk32tZmE4UVhUN21jbEk/edit?usp=sharing

z1 is much better, i suppourt z1

Compare Camera phone Z2 & Z3 at night

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Greetings to friends
Always a great discussion on changes in the camera is to Z3
My friend and I decided that these two phones at night
However , compared to non- professional
Every 2 Smartphone Android 4.4.4
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Is it me or is the Z2 better?

thanks for this thread bro

I find Z2 night shots better than z3 aswell o,0. Nice comparison tho.

tnx...that was interesting...
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Tiny bit more detail on the Z3 but I prefer the contrast level on the Z2.
Nice comparison.
Mike

Are this shot are taken by using Superior Auto ? Wow , my Z2 can't take a good picture like this , you must be a great photographer
By the way , good comparison bro

hmm the Z3 pics are a bit brighter hence the ISO 12800 is working
but overall pics are practically the same XD

Hi bro
its very very nice.thanks a lot
بابا دمت گرم ، همین اول کاری ترکوندی، بزار بعدا منم به کمکت میام: دی

in the 4th photo twin, the street photos.. can u show us how much is the ISO in the two photos ???
you can do it by windows on laptop.. right click- properties - details
I shot the same sense and it was a street like this one.. my ISO didn't go higher than 3200 in superior auto
I think 12800 ISO thing is fake !!
one more thing.. can you post two comparing photos in totally 100% dark sense ?? please
thank you for this amazing comparing

Y'all forgot one thing:JPEG Compression, it ain't the same for both Devices. If you want better comparison, get the app from the PlayStore named OpenCamera, set the JPEG Quality to a 100%.
Taken With Xperia Z1, OpenCamera, no edits, no filters, no nothing. Original JPG image.
Don't mind the text at the bottom-right, necessary for legal reasons.

Dynamic range of Z2 is better than Z3's, Z3's pictures lost several details in light areas.
I compared between my Z2 and my friend's Z3.

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Dynamic range of Z2 is better than Z3's, Z3's pictures lost several details in light areas.
I compared between my Z2 and my friend's Z3.
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I would like to be enlightened on this "Dynamic range" thing, because it seems as though, not every human in the world sees the same image on a single photograph. So maybe it's just your eyes?
Read this.

What do you mean by that? Z2 has better quality than Z3?
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Dynamic range of Z2 is better than Z3's, Z3's pictures lost several details in light areas.
I compared between my Z2 and my friend's Z3.
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What do you mean by that? Z2 has better quality than Z3?

To be frank, the difference is almost negligible. I find the contrast on the Z2 is minutely better but same quality overall.

Daryll99 said:
I would like to be enlightened on this "Dynamic range" thing, because it seems as though, not every human in the world sees the same image on a single photograph. So maybe it's just your eyes?
Read this.
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Dasith said:
What do you mean by that? Z2 has better quality than Z3?
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What do you mean by that? Z2 has better quality than Z3?
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My English is not good so I can't tell more clearly. Just look pictures of OP that I attach, the area I focus misses detail while the picture was taken by Z2 is not.

This should help y'all take better photos.
https://apps.facebook.com/sonyxperiahub/global/xperia-photo-academy

wow!
Thanks for this post bro.. really helped me. I was planning on getting z3 because of the camera. now I will get the Z2. for my eyes there is no difference.. Thanks bro. God bless you

Here you can see the details for Xperia Z2.
Hani88 said:
in the 4th photo twin, the street photos.. can u show us how much is the ISO in the two photos ???
you can do it by windows on laptop.. right click- properties - details
I shot the same sense and it was a street like this one.. my ISO didn't go higher than 3200 in superior auto
I think 12800 ISO thing is fake !!
one more thing.. can you post two comparing photos in totally 100% dark sense ?? please
thank you for this amazing comparing
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Maximum ISO value of Z2 is 6400. Maximum perfomance of Z2's camera's ISO is here at Superior Auto mode(8MP). And other pictures shows that how well it focus on a particular object and produces natural vivid colors in superior auto mode.
And sorry for the picture at number 4 don't know why it's inverted .

Xperia Z5 Camera can not focus on close objects !!

Hi all
I've been using this device for long. I noticed that camera can not focus on close objects. It can only focus on objects up to a certain distance and for smaller distance it focuses on far object and the main subject is blurred while background becomes focussed ,which results into very bad macro shots ( same problem in both 'Superior Auto Mode' and 'Manual Mode' ) .
After many experiments,I've concluded that it can not focus on object that are in 7cm or less away from the camera but, for objects +8cm away it can focus correctly .
I hope to see an update to fix that problem as soon as possible .
some samples :
Model: E6653
Build Number: 32.0.A.6.200
You can download original samples from here :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-066edkqJ2vLU0xTzhuQ0JtQ3c/view?usp=sharing
The pictures on the right side were taken from a smaller distance than pictures on left side .
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I've uploaded also a video to illustrate the problem :
https://youtu.be/IkwZbZp2dOo

Yep. Z5's minimum focusing distance is about 10cm. It's just a characteristic of the lens. Ultra wide-angle lenses are notoriously bad for macro photography. Z5 might well be the worst phone to take close-ups.
This has nothing to do with the software. This is a hardware based limitation. It is what it is. If you want your phone to take high quality close-ups, do not buy a Z5.

Use 16:9 aspect ratio. Camera software will downsample from 23MP.

Z5's minimum focus distance is 120 mm.I think z5 have a wide-angle lens,so......
Sorry for my bad English

Nothing real related to ultra wide 24mm angle. Sony is generally weak on focus close object, my older Z1c with 27mm lens isn't doing very well too whereas my S6 28mm lens done an excellent job.

Yes I think this is not because of the wide angle camera lens
because I have seen Xperia Z1 , Z2 , Z3 users talking about this problem here on xda and other forums .

korom42 said:
Yes I think this is not because of the wide angle camera lens
because I have seen Xperia Z1 , Z2 , Z3 users talking about this problem here on xda and other forums .
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Z1, Z2 and Z3 have wide angle camera sensiors.

Poor macro shot from Sony xperia z5

I am not a professional but I believe macro shots aren't taken by getting as closed to the subject as possible but by zooming in from a "regular" short distance

Funkmasterchilla said:
I am not a professional but I believe macro shots aren't taken by getting as closed to the subject as possible but by zooming in from a "regular" short distance
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Yes that is how it is done but with such cameras you have mechanical optical zoom and the loss is minimal and the lenses and sensors are bigger and better to reducec noise factor. On mobiles you have to resort to digital zoom which is not lossless though Sony in 8MP SA or manual mode offers upto 3x/5x "lossless" zoom. It is really good and way better than taking the photo at 21MP/23MP and then cropping in on subject.

rajkant1984 said:
Poor macro shot from Sony xperia z5
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Good macro shot from my Z5c. Use "lossless" zoom in 8MP SA/manual mode. This photo was taken with 5x zoom holding the phone with one hand in the air. 1/64, ISO 64.

Here are 3 pictures taken from the same distance (10-15cm): 1X, 3X and 5X. Manual 8MP 16/9, 50 ISO. I think it's not bad in 3X.

Anyone know if the problem is fixed in the Xperia X?

Sony says "The best camera".
I say: the worst.
I changed my Z2 D6503 by this Z5 E6603 and was the worst thing that I've ever done. If we speak about camera and battery.

MTechRD said:
Sony says "The best camera".
I say: the worst.
I changed my Z2 D6503 by this Z5 E6603 and was the worst thing that I've ever done. If we speak about camera and battery.
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Your phone camera is broken. Replace it cause the word "worst" dont compute with Xperia Z1+ line.

EQ2000 said:
Good macro shot from my Z5c. Use "lossless" zoom in 8MP SA/manual mode. This photo was taken with 5x zoom holding the phone with one hand in the air. 1/64, ISO 64.
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Wow, just amazing, how could you do that? Very sharp picture

devilmaycry2020 said:
Wow, just amazing, how could you do that? Very sharp picture
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Thanks! Just took a photo in Superior Auto in 8MP 16:9 mode with the zoom slider set to 5x. Natural lighting in the room of course affected it positively as it is always better than artificial light (more photons, more detail to capture).

the amount of misinformation in this forum is just unbelievable :/