Verizon is now offering the 32 GB unit for sale on their web site, free overnight delivery, so mine should arrive Friday...
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Verizon is now offering the 32 GB unit for sale on their web site, free overnight delivery, so mine should arrive Friday...
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Looking forward to your review!
Funny some guy here was claiming someone at Verizon corporate said they wouldnt have it for months lol
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FedEx says mine is out on the truck for delivery today...
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Funny some guy here was claiming someone at Verizon corporate said they wouldnt have it for months lol
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Yes, that was me and as usual, Verizon has no clue what they are talking about.I'm not returning my WiFi model but if I had known this would be out within 2 weeks of my purchase, I probably would have waited. On a 2 year it would have been almost the same price as the WiFi. Not like I'm ever leaving Verizon anytime soon due to their network in my area being better than any other carrier..
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Yes, that was me and as usual, Verizon has no clue what they are talking about.I'm not returning my WiFi model but if I had known this would be out within 2 weeks of my purchase, I probably would have waited. On a 2 year it would have been almost the same price as the WiFi. Not like I'm ever leaving Verizon anytime soon due to their network in my area being better than any other carrier..
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Iv thought about it but if I end up traveling internationally I doubt it would accept sims from other countries. It might though....
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So I just came from Verizon to check out the tablet. I went into settings and tried to do a system update, I didn't get the error that some people with P905 were getting about being custom. The update check came back ok, the system is up to date with the latest software. I went into download mode, everything was 0X0, nothing tripped of course but I couldn't figure out how to check if the bootloader is locked. I couldn't find the Phone app or the SMS text messaging app so I'm assuming this version cannot make calls.
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Iv thought about it but if I end up traveling internationally I doubt it would accept sims from other countries. It might though....
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Here are the Note Pro 12.2 Network specs:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100))
I hope someone smart here can let us know if this will work with AT&T or T-Mobile (Barry!) I see it has the 700, 1900, and 2100, but I don't know if bands 13/4 are compatible.
Let me see if I can help you out.
Here is some detailed information on their support site for what frequencies T-Mobile supports and what is required to use their network.
T-Mobile network & coverage details
T-Mobile 4G LTE
T-Mobile's advanced 4G LTE network is smoking fast! With incredible speed, you can do more using our nationwide 4G LTE network. Check our 4G LTE markets to see if you're covered.
T-Mobile’s 4G LTE network uses 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies. You'll need a phone that supports LTE 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies. Check Tech Specs to view your phone's capabilities.
Once you're registered on our 4G LTE network, you can take advantage of incredibly fast download speeds, and even use voice and data services at the same time.
T-Mobile 4G (HSPA+)
With 4G, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps up to 42 Mbps.
Our 4G network operates on the 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies. We use 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies to use voice and data services. You'll need a phone that supports 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz to connect to our 4G network.
Once you're registered on our 4G network, you can take advantage of incredibly fast download speeds, and even use voice and data services at the same time.
T-Mobile 3G (HSPA)
With 3G, theoretical maximum download of 14 Mbps.
Our 3G network operates on the 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies. You'll need a phone that supports 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz to connect to our 3G network.
On our 3G network, you can use voice and data services simultaneously.
T-Mobile 2G (EDGE)
EDGE, our enhanced 2G service, delivers a theoretical maximum download speed of 236 kbps.
GPRS, our 2G service, delivers a theoretical maximum download speed of 114 kbps. Typical speeds are between 35 kbps and 45 kbps.
Voice and data services cannot work simultaneously when on GPRS or EDGE.
Data speeds vary depending on its operating system, processor, battery life, running applications, peak theoretical speeds, and distance from the cell site. USB laptop sticks almost always offer higher speeds than smartphones, because they use the power of a laptop with larger batteries, processors, and other technologies. Also, downloading information is faster than uploading. There is no way to predict an exact speed with so many factors affecting your experience.
T-Mobile network & coverage details
T-Mobile 4G LTE
T-Mobile's advanced 4G LTE network is smoking fast! With incredible speed, you can do more using our nationwide 4G LTE network. Check our 4G LTE markets to see if you're covered.
T-Mobile’s 4G LTE network uses 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies. You'll need a phone that supports LTE 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies. Check Tech Specs to view your phone's capabilities.
Once you're registered on our 4G LTE network, you can take advantage of incredibly fast download speeds, and even use voice and data services at the same time.
T-Mobile 4G (HSPA+)
With 4G, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps up to 42 Mbps.
Our 4G network operates on the 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies. We use 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies to use voice and data services. You'll need a phone that supports 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz to connect to our 4G network.
Once you're registered on our 4G network, you can take advantage of incredibly fast download speeds, and even use voice and data services at the same time.
T-Mobile 3G (HSPA)
With 3G, theoretical maximum download of 14 Mbps.
Our 3G network operates on the 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies. You'll need a phone that supports 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz to connect to our 3G network.
On our 3G network, you can use voice and data services simultaneously.
T-Mobile 2G (EDGE)
EDGE, our enhanced 2G service, delivers a theoretical maximum download speed of 236 kbps.
GPRS, our 2G service, delivers a theoretical maximum download speed of 114 kbps. Typical speeds are between 35 kbps and 45 kbps.
Voice and data services cannot work simultaneously when on GPRS or EDGE.
Data speeds vary depending on its operating system, processor, battery life, running applications, peak theoretical speeds, and distance from the cell site. USB laptop sticks almost always offer higher speeds than smartphones, because they use the power of a laptop with larger batteries, processors, and other technologies. Also, downloading information is faster than uploading. There is no way to predict an exact speed with so many factors affecting your experience.
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Received my Verizon Note Pro yesterday. Activated without any issue. I've only used LTE a little bit on it, speedtest wasn't overwhelming, but that was probably a cell issue. Other than that, seems pretty much like the wifi version I've played with. Oh, in case anyone thinks about it, if I had to do it again, I'd skip the "travel bundle". I don't tend to use screen protectors, the vehicle charger is only 1A and even says on the box "Not designed to charge a tablet", and the Speck case is ok, but not great. (Not sure how long the clasp is going to last.)
One potential difference from the wifi model - this one supports 802.11ac. I don't remember seeing that for the wifi model?
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I doubt it would accept sims from other countries. It might though....
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It should once it's unlocked. These are the bands for the Latin American LTE's tabs that support 700MHz. I'm guessing the non-700MHz bands are the same for both AT&T and VZW's branded devices. The loss of 800/1,800MHz which are on the international LTE devices will screw up Europe and Asia as some big carriers there use one or both those bands.
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I see it has the 700, 1900, and 2100, but I don't know if bands 13/4 are compatible.
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AT&T uses band 4 for 1,700MHz like VZW but uses band 17 (vs. VZW's band 13) for 700MHz. Historically, putting a AT&T LTE SIM in a VZW device hasn't worked so I'm assuming both bands must be supported by the radio for both uploads and downloads. T-Mobile uses the 1,700MHz band 4 channel singularly and unlocked AT&T devices have gotten T-Mobile LTE and vice versa. I haven't read anything about VZW devices with T-Mobile LTE SIMs connecting via band 4 but on paper it should work. Band 4 is band 4.
Bands supported for LTE are exclusive to LTE. To get full T-Mobile GSM data coverage the GSM part of the radio would also need to support 1,700MHz which it doesn't. So GSM would only work in T-Mobile markets that have been refarmed to 1,900MHz. Unlocked, the radio in the VZW N12 would fully support AT&T's GSM data network.
One other difference between Verizon and WiFi versions - the Verizon unit doesn't get some of the offers that the WiFi does. No remotePC, no 50 GB dropbox, etc. Does get the Google Play store credit, and Gogo, but that's about it.
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Received my Verizon Note Pro yesterday. Activated without any issue. I've only used LTE a little bit on it, speedtest wasn't overwhelming, but that was probably a cell issue. Other than that, seems pretty much like the wifi version I've played with. Oh, in case anyone thinks about it, if I had to do it again, I'd skip the "travel bundle". I don't tend to use screen protectors, the vehicle charger is only 1A and even says on the box "Not designed to charge a tablet", and the Speck case is ok, but not great. (Not sure how long the clasp is going to last.)
One potential difference from the wifi model - this one supports 802.11ac. I don't remember seeing that for the wifi model?
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Were they nice enough to sim-unlock it for you since you bought it at full price? Or will they make you wait 6 months to unlock it?
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One other difference between Verizon and WiFi versions - the Verizon unit doesn't get some of the offers that the WiFi does. No remotePC, no 50 GB dropbox, etc. Does get the Google Play store credit, and Gogo, but that's about it.
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Were you able to find any calling/sms features?
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Were they nice enough to sim-unlock it for you since you bought it at full price? Or will they make you wait 6 months to unlock it?
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Were you able to find any calling/sms features?
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Don't have another SIM to try, and imei.info doesn't recognize the imei number. Is there another way to check if it is unlocked?
As for calling/sms, not that I've seen so far, but calling/texting from my tablets has never been a requirement for me, so haven't paid a lot of attention.
Great responses. My Verizon version is being shipped.. texting from tablets van be done on wifi anyways via mighty text or Google voice. The remote pc I have the apk on my note 10.1 2014. Dropbox it's only worth it if creating a new account otherwise you lose the offer but depends on usage. 50gb free on Mega. Gogo, wonder if is any good. HANCOMM? ?
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aburns7487 said:
Great responses. My Verizon version is being shipped.. texting from tablets van be done on wifi anyways via mighty text or Google voice. The remote pc I have the apk on my note 10.1 2014. Dropbox it's only worth it if creating a new account otherwise you lose the offer but depends on usage. 50gb free on Mega. Gogo, wonder if is any good. HANCOMM? ?
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I didn't need to create a new account to get the 50GB on Dropbox. I just logged in with my account info and now have about 53GB
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dodo99x said:
I didn't need to create a new account to get the 50GB on Dropbox. I just logged in with my account info and now have about 53GB
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i believe he meant if you had already had the note 10.1 2104 edition and got the dropbox offer 1st time so you can't add another offer to same account as you would need another account to receive the new 50 gigs
Exactly what I meant. Thanks for clarifying.
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How's the performance of the Verizon Snapdragon 800 compared to Exynos especially pushing 2560x1600 resolution? Can you post benchmarks for Anomaly 2 benchmark and Epic Citadel at highest settings?
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How's the performance of the Verizon Snapdragon 800 compared to Exynos especially pushing 2560x1600 resolution? Can you post benchmarks for Anomaly 2 benchmark and Epic Citadel at highest settings?
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I don't have a WiFi model to compare against, but subjectively I'm happy with the speed and it seems to handle full screen video content well. I'm not into tablet benchmarking so don't have the tools/methodology (desktops, on the other hand...) to provide anything objective.
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I don't have a WiFi model to compare against, but subjectively I'm happy with the speed and it seems to handle full screen video content well. I'm not into tablet benchmarking so don't have the tools/methodology (desktops, on the other hand...) to provide anything objective.
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We can extrapolate from Note 3 which is 1080p. Anomaly 2 benchmark and Epic Citadel are actually useful since they're not synthethic benchmarks but actual game engines. They're free to download from Google Play. Do us a favor and run them at highest setting and report score or fps. My impression of the Exynos is that its graphics performance is weaker so it'll have a negative impact on UI experience which should be solved with Snapdragon Verizon variant.
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There is an article on GSMarena (sorry, new user and can't post link) that says T-Mobile USA to support IPhone 4S at 3g speeds.
This is definitely good news. I hope it will also work on the Galaxy Note. Can anybody confirm and list your city?
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There is an article on GSMarena (sorry, new user and can't post link) that says T-Mobile USA to support IPhone 4S at 3g speeds.
This is definitely good news. I hope it will also work on the Galaxy Note. Can anybody confirm and list your city?
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T-mo 3G is 1700 mhz. AFAIK, the Note doesn't support this. So you're out of luck for 3G on T-mo USA (or any other service that backpacks onto T-mo's network, like SIMple Mobile.)
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T-mo 3G is 1700 mhz. AFAIK, the Note doesn't support this. So you're out of luck for 3G on T-mo USA (or any other service that backpacks onto T-mo's network, like SIMple Mobile.)
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Actually, the hardware is in the device for Tmo 3g 1700/2100. However, it's not enabled.
bloodyduster said:
There is an article on GSMarena (sorry, new user and can't post link) that says T-Mobile USA to support IPhone 4S at 3g speeds.
This is definitely good news. I hope it will also work on the Galaxy Note. Can anybody confirm and list your city?
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This is probably due to the likely joint operations that is likely between T-Mobile and AT&T now that AT&T's deal to buy them out looks like it won't happen.
But there are reports of Iphone 4S, which uses 1900Mhz, to run at 3g speeds on T-Mobile. If that is true, wouldn't the GNote also be capable of running at 3g speeds with its 1900 Mhz frequency?
Well if anyone has a 1900mhz phone only and gets 3G with T-Mobile, please report your location.
If I didn't have to register to that site, I would tell them: Screw the iPhone, this is where my Galaxy Note comes in.
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Actually, the hardware is in the device for Tmo 3g 1700/2100. However, it's not enabled.
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Yeah I've heard something about that. However, for all intents and purposes, until someone figures out a way to enable that, the Note is still just a quad-band 3/4G device (850/900/1900/2100) as far as I'm concerned.
As for the 4S being able to operate on T-mo's 3G, I'm willing to bet that it has more to do with the Gobi chip inside. I'm pretty sure the 4S chipset supports 1700 AWS.
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But there are reports of Iphone 4S, which uses 1900Mhz, to run at 3g speeds on T-Mobile. If that is true, wouldn't the GNote also be capable of running at 3g speeds with its 1900 Mhz frequency?
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Link Please?
The forum won't allow me to post external links until I've reached at least 8 posts.
Just google "gsmarena iphone 4s tmobile 3g" and it should be the first link.
From the different articles I've read (The Verge, Redmond Pie, etc) it seems this is only happening in parts of California and Nevada but they expect it to grow across the country in the coming months.
Is tmobile acessing AT&Ts bands to let this happen?
Here's some info about this....
http://www.appleinsider.com/article..._3g_access_to_some_unlocked_iphone_users.html
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This is probably due to the likely joint operations that is likely between T-Mobile and AT&T now that AT&T's deal to buy them out looks like it won't happen.
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Deal's off.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/19/2647291/at-t-kills-t-mobile-merger-plans
i think what he is saying is that since the deal is off, tmobile can utilize those bands. (Part of the deal between tmobile and at&t was that if it didnt go through they would get 4 billion dollars and access to some of their spectrum)
Any update on this?
Anyone with a Note getting 3G at all?
I'm very tempted to pick up a t-mobile sim and grab a prepaid plan and try this on my International Note, this is great news.
Any updates on how far the 1900 MHz 3G has expanded or if us international note users can unlock our radios for 1700 AWS?
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i think what he is saying is that since the deal is off, tmobile can utilize those bands. (Part of the deal between tmobile and at&t was that if it didnt go through they would get 4 billion dollars and access to some of their spectrum)
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If I remember correctly, if the deal fell through it was almost 8 Billion dollars in penalties. 3 or 4 billion in cash or stock swaps and the balance in frequency trades and roaming deals.
So as far as my research goes there are 2 options for the GS3 on t-mobile.
One is buy the international version and wait for t-mobile to upgrade their network which they say will be out by the "end of the year."
The second is pick up a gs3 from WIND Mobile, Mobilicity or Videotron (Canadian carriers that use the same frequencies as T-Mobile).
Is the second option even viable or should I just get the international version? To put things in perspective of why I want to upgrade now, my g2x was stolen a few months ago and I've been suffering with my 8900 Blackberry....a phone with 2G speeds and the processing power of a rock and I just cannot take this any more.
One question is the chip the North American version will get, which is probably the S4 Krait, it has very good performance and probably more battery efficient. Sound quality should be excellent like the HTC One S. Not to mention LTE support too, which T-Mobile is unveiling next year.
With that said, I always go for the international version, its released first for one and generally has more developers. I buy my phones at full price and int' version generally has better resale values. I don't think you have a lot of choice if you are in contract.
I can tolerate the 2G until 1900mhz band works with T-Mobile, I only need data for Google Maps, I get on WiFi otherwise.
Funny. I broke my N1 and am stuck with a BB curve 3600. It's been a month or so now....and I believe I've been punished long enough!
I wouldn't be able to tolerate the 2G speeds. So I will be getting it through mobile when they release release it. Having carrier warranty is a big plus for me too.
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well I'm sure there will be canadians that would be willing to sell their phones out of contract, full price. I wouldn't be locked into a contract either way.
i wouldn't mind helping out our fellow breathens from the south
i know i'll be picking it up for sure when it becomes available in store.
just keep in mind there's a 13% tax here + FedEx shipping fees which varies for northern states is aprox $20, southern states is about $26
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i wouldn't mind helping out our fellow breathens from the south
i know i'll be picking it up for sure when it becomes available in store.
just keep in mind there's a 13% tax here + FedEx shipping fees which varies for northern states is aprox $20, southern states is about $26
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whats 40 bucks when you have the top phone working on your network ahead of everyone else right?
i would think it would be the international version that WIND Mobile, Mobilicity or Videotron would be getting, sense they dont have LTE.
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i would think it would be the international version that WIND Mobile, Mobilicity or Videotron would be getting, sense they dont have LTE.
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did you check the radio bands included in the international model?
yes, they dont work with t-mo till the end of end of the year. no one wants 2G service.
International/Unlocked S3 on T-Mobile or AT&T (USA)
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yes, they dont work with t-mo till the end of end of the year. no one wants 2G service.
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Why won't they work?
I read the International Version can run on either T-Mobile (USA) or AT&T network, since the International Version of the S3 uses the same spectrum. It won't be possible to use LTE, but HSPA+ is possible... so I read.
Don't know if you specifically meant the Canadian version, because the International SG3 uses "850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 mhz", for use with "3g (hspa＋ 21mbps)" (= T-Mobile).
Can you provide a few more details on why it's not supposed to work, as you say ??
Thanks!
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Why won't they work?
I read the International Version can run on either T-Mobile (USA) or AT&T network, since the International Version of the S3 uses the same spectrum. It won't be possible to use LTE, but HSPA+ is possible... so I read.
Don't know if you specifically meant the Canadian version, because the International SG3 uses "850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 mhz", for use with "3g (hspa＋ 21mbps)" (= T-Mobile).
Can you provide a few more details on why it's not supposed to work, as you say ??
Thanks!
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Cause it doesn't list 1700mhz, which tmobile needs for the down link.
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The 1700 mhz band is not necessarily needed. I just checked some other sources, and they say it's only needed for LTE - which T-Mobile won't have until some time in 2013 anyway. HSPA+ is good enough for speedy downloads on the 1900 mhz band.
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Just found this one on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA
[T-Mobile] Radio frequency spectrum chart
The following chart describes radio frequency spectrum bands accessible by the company's customers using compatible devices.
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1700+2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 4G (formerly 3G)
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 4G
This means, the International SG3 will be fine in the U.S. using T-Mobile's speedy HSPA+ network... and that's all I need.
..???..
Well... this is confusing: T-Mobile's website (for SIM-only plans) actually states..
Important note about 3G phones:
If you own a 3G phone but it does not support the 1700-MHz band, it will operate at 2G (EDGE) speeds on our network.
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Looks like you guys were right... This sucks!!!
you need 1700 Mhz for AWS 3G/4G support
LTE is not even in the picture
I believe t mobile has had a SGSIII go through the FCC in the last week. I believe they will be getting their own model.
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planoman said:
I believe t mobile has had a SGSIII go through the FCC in the last week. I believe they will be getting their own model.
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I believe that is correct, by the end of next month tmo should be selling it. I have a feeling that it's going to be the same as the international version.
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Has anyone read this article about the relase date. My contract is up this week but im waiting untill its released. Seems like the speeds will be 4g but no quad-core processor
Plus I heard the Samsung Galaxy Note is going to be released on TMo too!!
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s3-note-in-t-mobile-document/
moshe22 said:
I wouldn't be able to tolerate the 2G speeds. So I will be getting it through mobile when they release release it. Having carrier warranty is a big plus for me too.
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Exactly true for me. On verizon tho.
I can deal with edge speeds as WiFi is everywhere, plus T-Mo is refarming their spectrum - the Int'l Version should be compatible with 4G by Q4
I was wondering why I can only get EDGE on my TMobile G2 phone... is it because of the GSM incompatibility that some TMobile phones have with the ATT network or am I doing something wrong?
Does your phone support 1900 MHz UTMS? That would be a problem. If it does then use *#0011# and make sure the bands are unlocked.
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Does your phone support 1900 MHz UTMS? That would be a problem. If it does then use *#0011# and make sure the bands are unlocked.
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I got "connection problem or invalid MMI code" when I ran that.
Edit: Did a bit more research and it turns out that it does *not* support 1900 MHz UTMS for 3G, so basically, this phone + ATT network = no 3G service, as the hardware is incompatible.
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I got "connection problem or invalid MMI code" when I ran that.
Edit: Did a bit more research and it turns out that it does *not* support 1900 MHz UTMS for 3G, so basically, this phone + ATT network = no 3G service, as the hardware is incompatible.
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Someone doing their own research? Get the hell out.
Actually, I don't think the G2 even does 3G on anything but AWS. The HTC Desire Z (identical but without carrier branding) has a version that supports AT&T 3G, however.
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Someone doing their own research? Get the hell out.
Actually, I don't think the G2 even does 3G on anything but AWS. The HTC Desire Z (identical but without carrier branding) has a version that supports AT&T 3G, however.
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You are correct.
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Does your phone support 1900 MHz UTMS? That would be a problem. If it does then use *#0011# and make sure the bands are unlocked.
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Can you explain what you mean by "use *#0011# and make sure the bands are unlocked"? My Samsung phone can't get 4g service here on T-Mobile and it doesn't do 3G so I'd really like to enable HSPA+ if that's possible. I don't see anything on that screen that I can unlock though.
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Can you explain what you mean by "use *#0011# and make sure the bands are unlocked"? My Samsung phone can't get 4g service here on T-Mobile and it doesn't do 3G so I'd really like to enable HSPA+ if that's possible. I don't see anything on that screen that I can unlock though.
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Check which UMTS (3G) bands your phone supports - I suspect yours does not support T-Mobile's 3G band (IV). The information is usually available on wikipedia or gsmarena.
You do not "enable" 3G through software changes. Your phone supports it or it doesn't.
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Check which UMTS (3G) bands your phone supports - I suspect yours does not support T-Mobile's 3G band (IV). The information is usually available on wikipedia or gsmarena.
You do not "enable" 3G through software changes. Your phone supports it or it doesn't.
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It does support band IV, 1700Mhz, but it doesn't do HSPA+ so it can't get 3G. That screen still doesn't tell me anything though.
GSMArena says it has 3G Networking on HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100 / 1900 but that's not true. There is no 2100Mhz band, not on mine anyway. Actually GSMArena isn't very complete or very accurate, it don't even list the model T959V!
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It does support band IV, 1700Mhz, but it doesn't do HSPA+ so it can't get 3G. That screen still doesn't tell me anything though.
GSMArena says it has 3G Networking on HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100 / 1900 but that's not true. There is no 2100Mhz band, not on mine anyway. Actually GSMArena isn't very complete or very accurate, it don't even list the model T959V!
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That's not how HSPA+ works - it's essentially just faster 3G. Also, I found your phone on GSMArena, not sure how you searched but the information is all there and it supports band IV (1700/2100) and I (2100).
Are you sure you've enabled 3G (or deselected "Use only 2G networks")?
What is the history of the phone (bought new, used, etc.)? It should "just work" on T-Mobile as it's T-Mobile branded but, no offense, your details are a little vague.
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That's not how HSPA+ works - it's essentially just faster 3G. Also, I found your phone on GSMArena, not sure how you searched but the information is all there and it supports band IV (1700/2100) and I (2100).
Are you sure you've enabled 3G (or deselected "Use only 2G networks")?
What is the history of the phone (bought new, used, etc.)? It should "just work" on T-Mobile as it's T-Mobile branded but, no offense, your details are a little vague.
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Sorry if I was vague but it doesn't "just work" on T-Mobile! At first I though all Exhibit II models would be the same however they could have different versions like the Galaxy 2 that has an older version for 3G and a newer version that also now gets 4G, who knows.
The phone was purchased new a few months ago and is still stock. I know HSPA+ is faster 3G since I can get it on 1700Mhz on another device using the T-Mobile SIM from the Exhibit 2. Can't get HSPA+ or 3G on the Exhibit 2 though.
Yes the phone is on GSMArena but the info is not accurate, it claims the phone gets 3G and has a 2100Mhz band but that's not true. It only supports band IV on 1700.
There is no option to enable 3G or "Use only 2G networks". It has options for WCDMA (for 4G on 1700) or GSM (for Edge on 1900) but there is no setting in between for 3G or HSPA+. I tried setting it to WCDMA only but it defaults back to Auto using Edge unless I go to a T-Mobile store where they have a strong 4G signal that gives 5 bars. If I leave the store and go down the street there's no signal though.
I have verified that WCDMA for 4G is on 1700 and GSM for Edge is on 1900 using a spectrum analyzer but it never uses 2100 and has never used 3G anywhere in the Phoenix, Mesa or Scottsdale area, just Edge. There may be other modes and frequencies but I haven't been able to verify them.
If there is a way to turn on 3G I'd like to know what it is? Someone suggested dialing *#32489# clicking #3 then UTMS but that didn't do anything.
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Sorry if I was vague but it doesn't "just work" on T-Mobile! At first I though all Exhibit II models would be the same however they could have different versions like the Galaxy 2 that has an older version for 3G and a newer version that also now gets 4G, who knows.
The phone was purchased new a few months ago and is still stock. I know HSPA+ is faster 3G since I can get it on 1700Mhz on another device using the T-Mobile SIM from the Exhibit 2. Can't get HSPA+ or 3G on the Exhibit 2 though.
Yes the phone is on GSMArena but the info is not accurate, it claims the phone gets 3G and has a 2100Mhz band but that's not true. It only supports band IV on 1700.
There is no option to enable 3G or "Use only 2G networks". It has options for WCDMA (for 4G on 1700) or GSM (for Edge on 1900) but there is no setting in between for 3G or HSPA+. I tried setting it to WCDMA only but it defaults back to Auto using Edge unless I go to a T-Mobile store where they have a strong 4G signal that gives 5 bars. If I leave the store and go down the street there's no signal though.
I have verified that WCDMA for 4G is on 1700 and GSM for Edge is on 1900 using a spectrum analyzer but it never uses 2100 and has never used 3G anywhere in the Phoenix, Mesa or Scottsdale area, just Edge. There may be other modes and frequencies but I haven't been able to verify them.
If there is a way to turn on 3G I'd like to know what it is? Someone suggested dialing *#32489# clicking #3 then UTMS but that didn't do anything.
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I don't know where to begin but let me get this straight...
-You bought a new Exhibit II from T-Mobile.
-It doesn't get 3G outside of the store.
-Your other T-Mobile compatible device gets 3G outside of the store.
-You've owned this same Exhibit II which hasn't been connecting to 3G for months.
On these points alone, am I understanding you correctly?
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I don't know where to begin but let me get this straight...
-You bought a new Exhibit II from T-Mobile.
-It doesn't get 3G outside of the store.
-Your other T-Mobile compatible device gets 3G outside of the store.
-You've owned this same Exhibit II which hasn't been connecting to 3G for months.
On these points alone, am I understanding you correctly?
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Close but not quite correct, it doesn't get 4G outside of the store.
It can't get 3G at all anywhere!
Since there is no 4G network is there a way to turn on or enable 3G or is it hopeless?
stevec5000 said:
Close but not quite correct, it doesn't get 4G outside of the store.
It can't get 3G at all anywhere!
Since there is no 4G network is there a way to turn on or enable 3G or is it hopeless?
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In a previous post you said that you "know" what I'm talking about but clearly that is not the case.
What T-Mobile calls 4G is actually 3G with improvements to the backhaul as well as the radios on the phones - where T-Mobile has 4G, it also has 3G.
The point of my last post was to make it obvious that you have a defective phone. I shouldn't have assumed you would figure it as you haven't figured it out in the months you've owned a phone that obviously has reception issues.
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In a previous post you said that you "know" what I'm talking about but clearly that is not the case.
What T-Mobile calls 4G is actually 3G with improvements to the backhaul as well as the radios on the phones - where T-Mobile has 4G, it also has 3G.
The point of my last post was to make it obvious that you have a defective phone. I shouldn't have assumed you would figure it as you haven't figured it out in the months you've owned a phone that obviously has reception issues.
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Again not true! What they call 4G is using WCDMA but 3G is using HSPA+. 3G using HSPA+ has improvements that will allow it to go up to 20Mb but my Android phone doesn't have an option for 3G, just 4G using WCDMA. The people at the T-Mobile stores would beg to differ with you about the phone being bad since I've been to 5 T-Mobile stores and they say the phone works OK since it can get 4G on 1700Mhz in the store.
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Again not true! What they call 4G is using WCDMA but 3G is using HSPA+. 3G using HSPA+ has improvements that will allow it to go up to 20Mb but my Android phone doesn't have an option for 3G, just 4G using WCDMA. The people at the T-Mobile stores would beg to differ with you about the phone being bad since I've been to 5 T-Mobile stores and they say the phone works OK since it can get 4G on 1700Mhz in the store.
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Your posts are too long to be trolling, but it still feels like you are because everything you post is wrong.
In case you're not trolling:
-Your phone has hardware defects that are affecting how well it connects to 3G.
-The fact that you get reception in stores is likely because stores have signal boosters.
-Retail employees are idiots. They are trained to use the products just enough to sell them (read: not much) and aren't paid enough to attract anyone with half a brain to the position. Walk a block away from the store and show them that your phone doesn't connect to 3G (or "4G" if you still want to call it that).
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Again not true! What they call 4G is using WCDMA but 3G is using HSPA+. 3G using HSPA+ has improvements that will allow it to go up to 20Mb but my Android phone doesn't have an option for 3G, just 4G using WCDMA. The people at the T-Mobile stores would beg to differ with you about the phone being bad since I've been to 5 T-Mobile stores and they say the phone works OK since it can get 4G on 1700Mhz in the store.
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Your posts are too long to be trolling, but it still feels like you are because everything you post is wrong.
In case you're not trolling:
-Your phone has hardware defects that are affecting how well it connects to 3G.
-The fact that you get reception in stores is likely because stores have signal boosters.
-Retail employees are idiots. They are trained to use the products just enough to sell them (read: not much) and aren't paid enough to attract anyone with half a brain to the position. Walk a block away from the store and show them that your phone doesn't connect to 3G (or "4G" if you still want to call it that).
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Both of you are feeling like you're trolling.
It may be a tower issue or your phone. The only way to check is to use another phone.
I know T- mobile is rolling out their 1900mhz band across the US this year, and in the last few days I've noticed much better signal strength and I just ran a speedtest and was very impressed by the results. I've had better upload results but this is by far the fastest upload speeds I've seen on the mobile data network.
Showed the 'H' icon next to the signal bars, I wonder if our phones will ever show 'LTE'?
I know I'm getting 4G but never says 4G. Always just 'H'.
Anyway, here's a screen if the results:
http://db.tt/V0IaSyjO
Close to 20Mbps!
Haha, I, as well as many others in this forum have been getting 20-25 off HSPA 42. There is an internal setting in the Nexus 4 to enable LTE, and if you connect to LTE, it shows the appropriate symbol, too. Currently, the flavor of LTE that the Nexus likes is only available in Canada (and maybe other places, but not US yet as far as I know), but it's starting to get deployed in the US via T-Mobile. It started off in Las Vegas and Kansas, or will be starting off, so if you're not in either of those places, you probably don't have LTE.
AW: Are these speeds LTE level?
Look under Settings-About the phone- status, there you can see the type of connection
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Its always gonna say h. There are ROMS that replace the icon with a 4g icon but most of them leave them as is. That doesnt mean your not getting 4g , plus those speeds look very good to me
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Those speeds are excellent for 4g, but with lte you're going to see upload speeds as fast as your download speeds.
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Haha, I, as well as many others in this forum have been getting 20-25 off HSPA 42. There is an internal setting in the Nexus 4 to enable LTE, and if you connect to LTE, it shows the appropriate symbol, too. Currently, the flavor of LTE that the Nexus likes is only available in Canada (and maybe other places, but not US yet as far as I know), but it's starting to get deployed in the US via T-Mobile. It started off in Las Vegas and Kansas, or will be starting off, so if you're not in either of those places, you probably don't have LTE.
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All good to know.
I'm in Seattle regularly, which was one if the first places T-Mobile rolled out their 1900mhz LTE service, do how do I turn on this internal setting you mentioned?
Thanks.
Globespy said:
All good to know.
I'm in Seattle regularly, which was one if the first places T-Mobile rolled out their 1900mhz LTE service, do how do I turn on this internal setting you mentioned?
Thanks.
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T-Mobile isn't rolling out LTE on 1900mhz. That's just 3G.
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T-Mobile isn't rolling out LTE on 1900mhz. That's just 3G.
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Interesting, I've received different information. I've spoken with level 3 tech support numerous times about the roll out of their 1900mhz band during 2013 across the US, and they confirmed that their version of LTE will use the 1900mhz frequency (which, incidentally is the most highly used global frequency for high speed data - I'm a British and Australian Citizen as well as US Citizen and use my phones worldwide). The 700mhz frequency is for Verizon LTE phones, so T-Mobiles decision to run 1900mhz will mean that AT&T customers can move to T-Mobile with their existing phones
Their current 3G and 4G runs on 1700mhz - of course your phone will only get 4G if it's hardware capable of 4G.
Here's an article that will explain it all for you:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/4GNetworkEvolutionVendorsSelected
Uhh
Globespy said:
Interesting, I've received different information. I've spoken with level 3 tech support numerous times about the roll out of their 1900mhz band during 2013 across the US, and they confirmed that their version of LTE will use the 1900mhz frequency (which, incidentally is the most highly used global frequency for high speed data - I'm a British and Australian Citizen as well as US Citizen and use my phones worldwide). The 700mhz frequency is for Verizon LTE phones, so T-Mobiles decision to run 1900mhz will mean that AT&T customers can move to T-Mobile with their existing phones
Their current 3G and 4G runs on 1700mhz - of course your phone will only get 4G if it's hardware capable of 4G.
Here's an article that will explain it all for you:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/4GNetworkEvolutionVendorsSelected
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I don't need an article.. T-Mobile is deploying band 4 LTE over 1700/2100mhz frequencies. The 1900mhz band is being refarmed to HSPAP which will allow AT&T users to use HSPAP on T-Mobile. This also allows T-Mobile to stop using 1700/2100 for HSPAP since they will be using it for LTE.
If you are calling T-Mobile and expecting their "level 3 tech support" to know anything, you're doing it wrong.
Also the article you posted even proves my point.. "Refarming 1900mhz for '4G HSPAP'"
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joshnichols189 said:
Uhh
I don't need an article.. T-Mobile is deploying band 4 LTE over 1700/2100mhz frequencies. The 1900mhz band is being refarmed to HSPAP which will allow AT&T users to use HSPAP on T-Mobile. This also allows T-Mobile to stop using 1700/2100 for HSPAP since they will be using it for LTE.
If you are calling T-Mobile and expecting their "level 3 tech support" to know anything, you're doing it wrong.
Also the article you posted even proves my point.. "Refarming 1900mhz for '4G HSPAP'"
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Thanks for your clarification. Good to know that we will get LTE regardless as the phone supports all those bands.
And, yes their tech support had been I'll informed before.... I was hoping that since several different people had said the same thing that there was consistency... Seems consistently crap information. However, 1700mhz currently is 4G, so moving it to 1900mhz is to improve signal strength through buildings etc right?
I've since looked at comparisons between HSPA+ and LTE... seems that LTE has a significant edge uploading, not that great of a difference download (especially as download speeds are often limited by the site you visit, regardless of how fast your carrier speed).
I'm sure I'll be happy with HSPS+ as I rarely upload much more than photos I take on my phone camera, and current 4G is plenty sufficient as it is..
HTC has updated the frequencies spec sheet to reflect better what we can expect from global variations of the One :
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one/#specs
Specifically , frequencies:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: : 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSDPA 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
At HTC blog site the frequencies for the HTC Developers edition is listed as :
http://blog.htc.com/2013/03/htc-one-developer-edition/
"Multiple frequency compatibility:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)"
With the AT&T version you can see that AT&T only gets HSDPA up to 21Mbps whereas the Canada version with the same bands gets up to 42Mbps
Question : Based on the Dev edition bands it looks like it should get DC- HSPA at 42 Mbps....is that right ??
I'd love to know that when I'm in an area with poor LTE coverage I can at least expect to get DC-HSPA speeds up to 42Mbps.
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I would guess its dc 42 by default and att rom/ modem restritcs to 21
Its the same hardware but cant be 100% sure until we get the devices.
that's because ATTs hspa+ network maxes out at 21. So if you're on att thats max you can get. Regardless of radio. You're not going to pull speeds that aren't available.
xcesivemastub8ah said:
that's because ATTs hspa+ network maxes out at 21. So if you're on att thats max you can get. Regardless of radio. You're not going to pull speeds that aren't available.
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Hi wrong! The specs stated there is the maximum bandwidth not the network's maximum speed. It would be a bad marketing for HTC if they were to put 21 if the true maximum speed is up to 42mbps. Take note that the numbers game plays with marketing perfectly.
And also HSPA+ is different than DC-HSDPA.
DC-HSDPA is a next generation HSPA+ where the bandwidth was doubled. And HTC stating that AT&T version doesn't get DC-HSDPA only means that it has different modem chipset than the others since there's no way to limit or multiply a bandwidth through software means.
It's just like making a single core processor a dual core by modifying a software.
Wait, what the hell? So the developer edition works on T-Mobiles network? When was this updated?
Nevermind, for some reason I thought it also included the 1700 band.
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mouzaihem said:
Wait, what the hell? So the developer edition works on T-Mobiles network? When was this updated?
Nevermind, for some reason I thought it also included the 1700 band.
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I'm not sure about the developer edition but the specs page of HTC was updated likely 19 hours ago.
Riyal said:
Hi wrong! The specs stated there is the maximum bandwidth not the network's maximum speed. It would be bad marketing for HTC if they were to put 21 if the true maximum speed is up to 42mbps. Take note that the numbers game plays with marketing perfectly.
And also HSPA+ is different than DC-HSDPA.
DC-HSDPA is a next generation HSPA+ where the bandwidth was doubled. And HTC stating that AT&T version doesn't get DC-HSDPA only means that it has different modem chipset than the others since there's no way to limit or multiply a bandwidth through software means.
It's just like making a single core processor a dual core by modifying a software.
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Hi wrong. Yea I don't know what you're trying to say. He asked about the att variant so I assumed he was on att. Which doesnt do dc-hspa+ . So if he's thinking he can buy the dev version and pull down 42, which I assumed was the purpose of the post, on att its not going to happen. I'm not sure were you got your marketing degree but Bad marketing would be if HTC would to say on the att variant specs that you can get anything more than 21 with the phone locked down to atts network. Imagine all the upset people on att suing them when they cant pull down 42 they claim on specs because atts network isn't built for 42. Not good marketing. The phone is for att and that's the maximum speed att gives so HTC is going to post it as the maximum speed for the att one. Simple..
Riyal said:
Hi wrong! The specs stated there is the maximum bandwidth not the network's maximum speed. It would be a bad marketing for HTC if they were to put 21 if the true maximum speed is up to 42mbps. Take note that the numbers game plays with marketing perfectly.
And also HSPA+ is different than DC-HSDPA.
DC-HSDPA is a next generation HSPA+ where the bandwidth was doubled. And HTC stating that AT&T version doesn't get DC-HSDPA only means that it has different modem chipset than the others since there's no way to limit or multiply a bandwidth through software means.
It's just like making a single core processor a dual core by modifying a software.
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The qualcom mdm chipset is the same it supports dc hspa+ att only uses singlecarrier on there network.
Its all the ul version.
Hi! I don't have a marketing degree sorry I'm a programmer not a marketer
Anyways what if AT&T would somehow decide to upgrade their HSDPA speeds in the next 6 months? Or maybe announce tomorrow that they will upgrade it soon? Isn't it a big down for HTC? The specs made there are not specs of the network where the phone is to be used. It's the specs of the phone itself. You can't advertise a phone that it doesn't have LTE only just because the networks that will be used in it doesn't support it right?
xcesivemastub8ah said:
Hi wrong. Yea I don't know what you're trying to say. He asked about the att variant so I assumed he was on att. Which doesnt do dc-hspa+ . So if he's thinking he can buy the dev version and pull down 42, which I assumed was the purpose of the post, on att its not going to happen. I'm not sure were you got your marketing degree but Bad marketing would be if HTC would to say on the att variant specs that you can get anything more than 21 with the phone locked down to atts network. Imagine all the upset people on att suing them when they cant pull down 42 they claim on specs because atts network isn't built for 42. Not good marketing. The phone is for att and that's the maximum speed att gives so HTC is going to post it as the maximum speed for the att one. Simple..
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The qualcomm MDM chipset has different versions.
Anandtech alone confirmed that the Asian version & the UK version has different MDM chipsets used.
Receive diversity is mandatory for LTE, but even the UMTS/WCDMA only One includes it since is is again required in part to enable the all metal design. All of the One models are based on Qualcomm’s 28nm 2nd generation LTE baseband, the MDM9x15 platform we’ve seen a bunch of, and its DC-HSPA+/GSM-only (LTE blocks fused off) sibling, MDM8215 for the UMTS/WCDMA only model. This is a big step up from the international edition of the One X and One X+ which both shipped without receive diversity and were based on the aging Intel/Infineon XMM6260 platform.
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You guys are basing facts on assumptions that came from others while I am basing it on technicalities. So I guess I'll leave it out on others to decide which they think is correct.
And yeah AT&T isn't using UL version. You can go to this thread instead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
and see that it's a WL version.
Nyxagamemnon said:
The qualcom mdm chipset is the same it supports dc hspa+ att only uses singlecarrier on there network.
Its all the ul version.
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Riyal said:
Hi! I don't have a marketing degree sorry I'm a programmer not a marketer
Anyways what if AT&T would somehow decide to upgrade their HSDPA speeds in the next 6 months? Or maybe announce tomorrow that they will upgrade it soon? Isn't it a big down for HTC? The specs made there are not specs of the network where the phone is to be used. It's the specs of the phone itself. You can't advertise a phone that it doesn't have LTE only just because the networks that will be used in it doesn't support it right?
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I don't know how we got off topic but Yes. The specs ARE of the network that they are to be used on since a carrier variant is tied to a specific carrier. Listen, You can't advertise a phone being able to download 42mbps on a network that doesn't have it. Its false advertising to tell att customers that they can get 42mbps with this phone. Which is what they would be saying if att one specs said 42 instead of 21. And what I was trying to clarify to the OP that he's not going to get. It doesn't matter if it had a chip capable of 1 million mbps. Its a phone meant specifically to be used on att and att can only do 21 so that's all they're going to tell you the phone can do because that's all you(the general public) need to know. As for your last sentence, You can and they do. Just Look at the nexus 4. No LTE advertising but LTE capable. If att was deciding they wanted to upgrade their network it wouldn't be a big down for HTC. All they would have to do is change the Att one specs on their site.
And att variant and dev edition are the same. Both the UL version. WL is cdma. Sprint.
ATT is ul. Mile needs to update his op
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ATT is ul. Mile needs to update his op
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ATT stopped working on hspa.
Its LTE right now and a bud of mine told me they are currently turning on LTE Advanced. In my area they already turned it on but no press release though. You just see a minor speed bump until lte advanced chips are supported
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WOW !
I didn't realise my post would cause such a kerfuffle...I'm in Canada and simply wanted to know based on official specs provided whether the Dev edition would pull in DC-HSDPA speeds on Telus network that supports this dual channel technology
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adsam3927 said:
WOW !
I didn't realise my post would cause such a kerfuffle...I'm in Canada and simply wanted to know based on official specs provided whether the Dev edition would pull in DC-HSDPA speeds on Telus network that supports this dual channel technology
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The reason why att variant advertises different speeds even though theyre the same m7-ul model was given in the first 2 responses. Unlocked models don't advertise speed because there's no carrier to advertise for. The thread took a turn for the worst when, for whatever reason, someone decided they were going to hijackand and fill the thread with "facts" based on misinformation.
adsam3927 said:
WOW !
I didn't realise my post would cause such a kerfuffle...I'm in Canada and simply wanted to know based on official specs provided whether the Dev edition would pull in DC-HSDPA speeds on Telus network that supports this dual channel technology
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In case no one answered the OP, the answer is NO. Unless the published specs are wrong, it will not operate on the 1700/2100 band. I believe that is the same technology used by T-Mobile?
Does anyone know if this would work on Verizon Wireless?
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I asked Brian Klug, the author of the Anandtech review, this exact question and here is my question and his response.
"Hey Brian I have a quick question for you. Will the unlocked editions support HSPA+ 42?"
"The developer unlocked edition is only 21.1 single carrier 64QAM from what I know (AT&T variant)."
Judging by his review he's a lot smarter than I am so I'll take his word until we have confirmation otherwise.
mouzaihem said:
Wait, what the hell? So the developer edition works on T-Mobiles network? When was this updated?
Nevermind, for some reason I thought it also included the 1700 band.
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It always has. You just had to be in the refarmed 1900 or the LTE areas to get better than 2G.
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Does anyone know if this would work on Verizon Wireless?
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No, it won't. No CDMA authorization for it to do so.
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I asked Brian Klug, the author of the Anandtech review, this exact question and here is my question and his response.
"Hey Brian I have a quick question for you. Will the unlocked editions support HSPA+ 42?"
"The developer unlocked edition is only 21.1 single carrier 64QAM from what I know (AT&T variant)."
Judging by his review he's a lot smarter than I am so I'll take his word until we have confirmation otherwise.
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That's disappointing... I really was hoping to have the 2 current best speeds for the One...LTE and upto 42Mbps.
Im with Telus and beginning to wonder if I should sacrifice 32Gb of storage and go with a Telus LTE/42Mbps device
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I highly doubt its 21 hes speculating. I posted info from diffrent sources regardingthe dc42. The mdm9215 supports dchspa by default.
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I highly doubt its 21 hes speculating. I posted info from diffrent sources regardingthe dc42. The mdm9215 supports dchspa by default.
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It is 21 if using AWS on the T-Mobile system. I don't know what it gets on ATT.