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I have heard that the new cm7 is faster because it uses ext4 for the system. And I was wondering if it was possible to do the same thing with cm6? And I am not sure how it is able to do this in the first place. I get that I can format my sdcard as ext4 and make it faster..... but how can a rom I flash format my system partition to a different file system? And how can I add this to my cm6 build until cm7 has all the features I am hooked on?
I know this is a noob question.... but that's why I am posting in the general section.... lol
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.
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Cm7 has all the features and more that cm6 had. Just upgrade.
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I would love to.... But unfortunately it doesn't. I am still waiting for the ability to set up each screen rotation setting individually like in cm6. Right now you can't enable 180 degree rotation without enabling all 3 directions of screen rotation. Or you can disable screen rotation all together.... those are the only options. And widgets take to long to redraw when 90 and 270 degree rotation is enabled. Especially since it usually happens when I didn't want it to... or it stops first at 90 then goes to 180....
So they are not All there.... but also I was just trying to understand how the system format to ext4 works.
I have also tried to ask how I could go about adding that rotation features in my self but I can't get anyone to point me in the right direction on that either......
So, can anyone help?
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Ah I see... however ill just say that I don't think cyanogen is planning to add these features back in.
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EXT4 does not provide an appreciable performance boost over EXT3.
EXT4 does not provide an appreciable performance boost over EXT3.
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Really? So what is all the hype about? Why did CM make the change?
Ah I see... however ill just say that I don't think cyanogen is planning to add these features back in.
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That would really be too bad.. I see know reason not to add them back. But that leads me back to my original two questions.
1) can some one explain how the system is formated to ext3/ext4 during a rom flash. And how I might be able to implement this in a modified version of CM6.
2) Since I don't want to bug CM with requests for features and ETA's.. Can some one point me to some info on how to port features from one rom to another? I have searched and found a lot of info but I could use some help narrowing it down to what I actually need for my purposes. Thanks for your help
Wouldn't the ext upgrade be in recovery?? Because when using Amon RA recovery with other phones, not ours as he doesn't make a recovery for us vision.. you had the option to upgrade from ext2 ext3 ext4. And I think before the latest clockwork was release, we had to use 3.x to flash gingerbread as it only supported ext4. And 2.5.x was only ext3 right?? I don't know if I'm making sense or in the right track..
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noodles2224 said:
Wouldn't the ext upgrade be in recovery?? Because when using Amon RA recovery with other phones, not ours as he doesn't make a recovery for us vision.. you had the option to upgrade from ext2 ext3 ext4. And I think before the latest clockwork was release, we had to use 3.x to flash gingerbread as it only supported ext4. And 2.5.x was only ext3 right?? I don't know if I'm making sense or in the right track..
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Those options are are referring to the file system format of the sd-ext partition if you have one. CM7 apperently formats the actual system to ext4 now... or otherwise called mmcblk1p25.... I think....
Hey all its been about 6 months since I was last here, My HD2 currently runs the old Darkstone SD card build, and I love it, But I know since then allot of other developments have been made, I want to now install a Rom directly to my phone (Nand I believe it is?) But I have looked through the roms section and cant find one that is anything like the old darkstone , If anyone can point me out one that is similar and can be used on the Nand I would greatly appreciate it, Thank you.
If you like it clean than try [27.MAR][CWM] NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.5 [Android2.3.3][Kernel: tytung_r8.3].
A really good Guide how to install NAND ROM you can find here.
Use This..UltimateDroid (Crawlingcity)
I've only had HD2 for a week and I'm a noob, But tried others and this one w/radio rom 2.12.50.02 for battery is the best in my opinion, Very very happy!
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Hey all its been about 6 months since I was last here, My HD2 currently runs the old Darkstone SD card build, and I love it, But I know since then allot of other developments have been made, I want to now install a Rom directly to my phone (Nand I believe it is?) But I have looked through the roms section and cant find one that is anything like the old darkstone , If anyone can point me out one that is similar and can be used on the Nand I would greatly appreciate it, Thank you.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but installing to NAND would limit you to the amount of apps that you can install since not all apps support Moving to SD. Wouldn't you rather run a newer build, like American Android off your SD?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but installing to NAND would limit you to the amount of apps that you can install since not all apps support Moving to SD. Wouldn't you rather run a newer build, like American Android off your SD?
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I'm correcting you, you are wrong!
You can create a partition on your SD which extends your internal memory, All user data is pushed there
Majority of roms come with one of various solutions to extend memory.
Not trying to hijack this thread or anything, but I haven't gone the NAND way just because of that limitation that I believed was there! I AM SO GLAD I WAS WRONG!
I guess my next question is, the maximum size of that partition would be...?
I am currently running American Android off SD, is there anything similar to that for NAND?
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Not trying to hijack this thread or anything, but I haven't gone the NAND way just because of that limitation that I believed was there! I AM SO GLAD I WAS WRONG!
I guess my next question is, the maximum size of that partition would be...?
I am currently running American Android off SD, is there anything similar to that for NAND?
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1GB as far as I know. Thats what is recommended by most devs. To partition all you need to do is go into recovery (Clockworkmod) and use the partition feature.
Apps2SD+ = Apps data is pushed to the partition after install or reboot in some cases I think.
Data2SD/Data2Ext = All user data is stored on partition as internal memory is extended.
data.img = Basicaly same as what data.img does on SD build, ie the .img file is used as internal memory.
(I may not be 100% accurate on the above so if anybody has more detail please add)
PS. You should have done a bit of reading, there has been roms with this functionality for ages.
Ultimate Droid 3.1.1 so good.
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I did plenty of reading, only problem was that I kept playing safe. Right after that reply of yours I flashed HyperDroid GBX 2.3.3 with CWM and boy I couldn't be happier. I also have the SD card fix on. This thing flies!
I will suggest anyone going for NAND to partition to EXT4 through GParted rather than CWM though. Gingerbread is more stable, compatible and faster with EXT4.
Thanks bud!
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What are some of the roms in the mytouch 4g thread that support appstoext4, currently using a zip file that supports apps2sd (thanks to that dev) but i do prefer using the ext partition. I also prefer aosp to sense, but if there are some sense roms that support apps2ext i will def check them out. Thanks for looking @ my thread and any information is welcome
Why would you need the ext partition in MT4G? ~1GB of internal RAM isn't good enough?
And if you're talking about reformatting /data with EXT4, why is it of any concern?
No, 1gb of ram is not enough for everyone especially me. I have tons of apps/games i install to my phone and the only way i can do this atm is with apps2sd which is decent, but having them installed to an ext4 partition makes them run faster then if they were on sdcard. It's ok i understand why you would think 1gb of ram is enough.
If you're installing the downloaded part of the game on the internal memory (it's not RAM, my mistake - it's probably best to refer to as just internal memory), I can understand why.
In any case, the solution might be to use A2SD by DarkTremor on any ROM that you like, which you're probably doing already. I don't think many ROMs bother to support A2SD initially, since the demand for it is very small.
Ya, using dark tremors flashable zip for the moment until i can either find a rom that supports apps2ext(4) or someone educates me on which rom does support it lol Either way problem is very temporary anyways since my upgradeis in August...tho i may just wait till the Hercules or Nexus 3 come out since my last phone was a g1. This MT4G i got from craigslist with a sweet deal and blows away the g1 haha
I have a folder from my old ROM with all my apps backed up on titanium. Now when I go create a new ROM where do I put the titanium folder so it will show all my apps?
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I have a folder from my old ROM with all my apps backed up on titanium. Now when I go create a new ROM where do I put the titanium folder so it will show all my apps?
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The TB folder should be on your SD card. Prior to flashing a new ROM you can use the menu in TB to create an update zip file, which is flashable in recovery. When you flash the ROM zip you can also flash the TB zip, which will install TB on your phone without having to download it from the Play store. All you have to do then is do a batch restore of your user apps from TB and you'll be set.
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FinZ28: thanks for reply but somehow I put the TA backup folder from my old ROM in a few of the folders on my phone and it popped up lol But now the problem I am having is with a2sd. It seems that all the apps are going both on my internal space & on the a2sd I created...Why is it doing that? I want all the apps to go to a2sd I created and not internal storage...
Do you know if your new ROM supports a2sd? You might have to find the right package and flash it to gain support for the a2sd partition. Check the OP of the ROM post. Better yet, check TB, and look at the memory readings for all of the partitions listed. If your partition isn't there, then it isn't supported natively.
aarsyl: I am running .500 reloaded ROM & you need to flash DarkTremors a2sd. I first created a parition w/ swap file 0 and 1 gig of space then I flashed ROM .500 reloaded then gapps then DT a2sd. When I go to Titanium I can see the 1 gig partition I created it says SD card (a2sd) and its taking up about 200 MB, however under internal its also taking up 200MB...the whole point of the a2sd is to free up space for internal storage..Why is it taking up space in both internal & the a2sd partition?
That's because it doesn't remove the ENTIRE thing to a2sd,to MY knowledge. I may be wrong, for I haven't dealt with that for a long time.
I suggest that you do a test. Install a few apps from the play store, and see what happens with the two partitions, and also monitor which partition loses more space.
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Well like I said it seems to be taking space on both internal storage and the SD card... I just installed an app and it took 14mb off of SD (a2sd partition I made) & 24MB off internal...What do I need to do to get it to only take space on the a2sd and NOT internal storage?
Bump anyone? I notice in TA sum apps are on the SD card while some are not...How is that when I installed all the apps at the same time?!
Any input appreciated...
Ok...so know one else seems to know the answer to your question. Have you tried a2sd with another rom to see if it behaves the same way? That's the most that I can think of. Preferably a rom that already has it baked in.
Just trying....
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Appreciate the response aarsyl however, what other rom should I try it with? .500 reloaded seems to work the best. Is there anything similar that has everything that ROM offers? Many roms I see around here always have something missing, be it FFC, video, 4g, ect....
Wow...you're asking for a lot. Just kidding...I just haven't tried out Roms for my OG Evo for months...give me until tomorrow, and I will return with an appropriate answer. But FYI, Sense 2.1 roms are definitely your best bet, since the phone was made for it (stock). If you don't prefer Sense, at least stick to GB. There are no ICS roms with everything working, and JB is even worse.
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SOS X+ is a good rom to test, but I need to find a link.
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True unfortunately I dont seem to like sense lol Ive been on .500 Reloaded ever since release.
BUmp anyone?
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BUmp anyone?
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Any gingerbread rom has everything working. Only the ICS/JB rom's have things broken. Jellybread and Thundershock are 2 of the most popular. Emilio Unchained isn't far behind. Mokee if you want a really different feel. Unoffical CM7.1 in Original Development section if you want a stock CM feel that you can customize and make your own without having things you don't want or need.
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Any gingerbread rom has everything working. Only the ICS/JB rom's have things broken. Jellybread and Thundershock are 2 of the most popular. Emilio Unchained isn't far behind. Mokee if you want a really different feel. Unoffical CM7.1 in Original Development section if you want a stock CM feel that you can customize and make your own without having things you don't want or need.
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If you want everything working and a true ICS/jb feel try cyanmobile. Well you have to add the APN to get MMS but everything works. 4g, HDMI out!
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How r any of the ROms mentioned better than .500 reloaded?!
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How r any of the ROms mentioned better than .500 reloaded?!
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.Reloaded is based on 2.3.5 and deck's custom ROM. The other ROMs are based on 2.3.7 and have CM controls. Some app's function differently. Different lock screen controls. etc. Few things like that. Don't get me wrong, I like reloaded, but it could use some updates.
Cyanmobile and MIUI are also... interesting, because they are quite different. As long as you are using the GB version of MIUI, everything will work. They are also 2.3.7 based.
If you like reloaded, stick with it. There is nothing wrong with it, and it's a good, stable rom. The question was, what has everything working. Sense 1.0 ROMs are the best for everything working. If you don't like sense, I was giving options since you already use reloaded.
souleman: what would u recommend as the two best ROMS under 2.3.7 with everything working including hdmi? Just wondering if the ones u mentioned are really better than relaoded or just a different look...
bump soul?
Will this work on our beloved g2 as well?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234515
Thanks max.
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Good Question
Would also be interested if this is possible
WebOS is a different animal compared to Android. And Im sure this wont be possible with a locked bootloader. Messing with the partitions is dumb imo, thats the easiest way to hard brick a device.
Guys I came from an LG nitro and we had several issues with modified system partitions really screwing things up. Messing with your system partition is the fastest way to end up with a shiny paperweight. Don't do it.
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Hutch89 said:
Guys I came from an LG nitro and we had several issues with modified system partitions really screwing things up. Messing with your system partition is the fastest way to end up with a shiny paperweight. Don't do it.
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I can agree with you but it's a total nonsense that I bought a 32gb G2 version and available disk space sis just 24gb... hope lg will release some kind of fix/workaround soon
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I can agree with you but it's a total nonsense that I bought a 32gb G2 version and available disk space sis just 24gb... hope lg will release some kind of fix/workaround soon
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Why would they? Its partitioned that way to hold the size of their default software...
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Would definitely love for more free space especially since i'm running cm11 and the rom is practically a little over 200MB.
Probably some of the devs can have a look at this
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The system partition is 3.2 GB. It isn't like you can go from 24 to 31 GB free. If your that desperate over an extra gig, you might need to reevaluate what you have on your phone, or invest in a microsd usb card reader.
Also, 200 MB is most likely the size of the zip file, you are using to install the rom. That is compressed size. Mahdi rom (I have on my pc at moment so could check), is 208 MB compressed.. The actual install size is 351 MB. That doesn't include gapps, which also installs to the system partion. The core gapps package is 18MB but installs to be 30 MB. And that is assuming you are using core, the full packages are MUCH larger.
So theoretically, you could free up maybe 2.7GB. Is it really worth a good chance at bricking your phone for that?
This might sound dumb, but I'll say it anyway...
There is media in /system/media, not sure about songs, but certainly ringtones etc
I wonder if one could dump a few gigs of mp3's into /system to make better use of the space, and less use of the media drive (/sdcard).
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Would definitely love for more free space especially since i'm running cm11 and the rom is practically a little over 200MB.
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I agree, 1gb system partition should be enough
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Probably some of the devs can have a look at this
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we need to unlock bootloader to be able to resize partitions
It would be nice to be able to shrink the system partition. I've attached a sample screen of my G2 that is running CM11 nightlies.
But yeah, dropping the system to 1GB would leave plenty of room and boost the 24.1GB up by about 2.2GB to 26.3GB (a 9% increase which is fairly significant).
As others have mentioned though there is the issue of the bootloader.
On a second thought...I recall the unroot/unbricking flash tool causing some issues for people related to phone storage sizes.
I wonder if someone creative might be able to create an image with custom partition sizes via this method.
If u cant resize the partitions, IT would be kind a awesome to create a custom recovery like safestrap or boot Menu Manager which can create multiple System Slots so that u have multiple Systems on ur g2. So Let's say a aosp rom and a modded Stock rom at da same time.
Like so that devs See that.
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Does any one have any clue on how to resize the /system? I have been researching on how it's done on other devices but no luck using the same methods.
You can't. Enjoy your phone as it is
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Please ! I know it's possible, but how ?
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I would also apreciate that. Having a 16Gb phone with just 10Gb free is a waste of space.
Stock Roms may be 3.2Gb compressed and inflate to 6GB uncompressed, but I am running on CM11, which only should be 500MB at most, when uncompressed.
Also this phone not having a micro SD card really kind of messes it up.
i have 2 galaxy s variant (epic4g sprint usa & sc-02b docomo japan) both have long journey in development history from cm7 to latest cm-11
the partition size was change several times to accommodate bigger system files in newer version
afaik it can be set in kernel source for both device on mtd samsung onenand driver
I don't know about g2 because I just own this device for 2 days lol
I have 16gb, so find a dev who works on this will be a great news for me
Anybody found anything useful regarding shrinking the partition?