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S4 Updates, Flashing...

Hello,
I have been trying to figure out a few things with the S4 and read a lot of stuff but I have a few unanswered question.
I come from using NExus phones since Nexus 1. Unlock Phone, install CWM and then use it to flash roms or rooting scripts.
Now, I have S4. I am still with their STOCK on I337M (Canadian Model) and I rooted using CF-Auto-Root and ODIN.
What I don't understand, is:
- Can I flash CWM and then just use CWM and SuperSU-vx.xx.zip to root? Why Use Odin?
- Now that I am rooted, if I new SAMSUNG firmware comes along, I am assuming it will fail, I will have to unroot and then apply firmware and then root again? How do I unroot? "Full Unroot" from the option in the app just like the Nexus phones?
- S4 has a counter from what I read, but lot's of warning about bricking phone is that only active on Samsung stock? What if I flash a google stock?
- Can I just use Rom Manager Pro as I used to with Nexus devices...
if I flash CWM, is it replacing ODIN? Is odin a recovery like Odin! If anyone can point out and explain the difference between CWM , ODIN, Nexus phones and S4 it would be great...
I know that now when I go to download mode (Is that like fastboot?) it shows binary as being custom, but I don't get a yellow triangle when I boot...
Thanks for any info regarding explaining what ODIN is...
I also noticed although I have 16GB phone, 6.38GB is system! That is huge! Is that normal?
There are some nice features that I would not like to lose, so I stuck with samsung and just use NOVA home screen...

This is actually the "ATT Galaxy S4Active" forum. S4 forum will have answers to all your S4 questions.
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Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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ssss25 said:
Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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Hi,
It seems that you have been around the houses.
The place you are looking for is HERE

Thanks.. I will do some more reading to try to find answers.. looks like my post just got moved.
Thanks
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Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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I just went through the un root because I was only using it for one thing. I ended up flashing the original ROM using Odin then doing a factory reset and cache wipe. Now waiting for the update not sure I will root until S4 is not longer updated by Samsung.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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Hi,
Look HERE
OTA will remove root,and the latest will lock down your bootloader.

Hi
I have AMG1... I think this is the latest one but I was able to root.. Will locking boot loader prevent rooting.. Could it be another one for at only?
Thanks
Note: yes. I did notice chainfires note.. But he doesn't say what load is the latest.. There are so many Samsung s4 models devices.. Each with different models its so confusing
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I just installed CWM on latest version of Canadian I337M AMG1... Its good so far.
Xda modder.. There are differences between i337 att and Canadian i337m.. No forum specific to the Canadian folks?
Thanks...
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N7105 4.3 upgrade UK users

Has anyone updated to 4.3 official using any of the roms from sammobile? I see the nordic countries 4.3 is available, I normally use either this, the German or Swedish version, I've even used a Hong Kong one before now lol, but with the recent changes Sammy have made regarding knox and location lock etc, I'm a bit dubious to upgrade.
They normally just work, just checking this is still the case before I end up with an expensive paperweight.

There is a thread somewhere by chainfire with a fix to sammys region lock. The lion rom is pretty much stock with nox removed, you just have to use devil's kernel for wifi
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Cheers mate but need to stay unrooted for the main apps I use.
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I have flashed mine to the nordic contries im in uk and everything works great yes it has knox but I have had no problem rooting or installing custom roms. Im on the new skynote 4.3 note 3 edition and its the best rom I have used so far
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Cheers mate. I flashed it the other day haven't got around to posting an update yet.
Yes it has knox, but I'm not going to be rooting this device because I use it for sky and a few other apps that require unrooted.
Impressions are good so far. Everything is smooth and all my apps are working as they were before, including the sky sports app which got an update recently to work with 4.3.
One thing to note though, if you use allshare cast dongle. It has a problem working with 4.3 devices that have been updated. So if you run into this issue the fix is to do a factory reset.
There is a workaround for rooted devices on here, it's in the S4 section.
A bit of a pain having to reset I know but seems to be the only solution for unrooted devices that run into it.
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Riki1kenobi said:
Cheers mate. I flashed it the other day haven't got around to posting an update yet.
Yes it has knox, but I'm not going to be rooting this device because I use it for sky and a few other apps that require unrooted.
Impressions are good so far. Everything is smooth and all my apps are working as they were before, including the sky sports app which got an update recently to work with 4.3.
One thing to note though, if you use allshare cast dongle. It has a problem working with 4.3 devices that have been updated. So if you run into this issue the fix is to do a factory reset.
There is a workaround for rooted devices on here, it's in the S4 section.
A bit of a pain having to reset I know but seems to be the only solution for unrooted devices that run into it.
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Hi mate
I'm also using the sky go app, and on stock 4.1 I've just been using ota rootkeeper to toggle root when needed. I really need root for the viper audio mod.
I'm just wondering which 4.3 ROM you've got it to work on? With 4.1.2 it NEEDS to be stock ROM and kernel for sky go to work. If I upgrade I want to get a ROM without knox, but any custom ROM won't work.
Please let me know as right I'm sticking to 4.1.2.
Thanks
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There weren't any custom rom's available for the 7105 that were stock with knox/location lock removed when I last checked (may be different now?). I just used the nordic rom from sammobile.
If there's none available I think you'll need to wait for a dev to rip the rom and remove knox if you don't want it. Unless you have the time and skills to diy I got the skills but not the time, unfortunately
As I said, I'm not bothered about knox at the moment. I was more bothered by location lock, but I've not had any issue so far.
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Lion Rom is stock deknoxed non region locked deodexed. I'm running it now it's goid
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fade2black101 said:
Hi mate
I'm also using the sky go app, and on stock 4.1 I've just been using ota rootkeeper to toggle root when needed. I really need root for the viper audio mod.
I'm just wondering which 4.3 ROM you've got it to work on? With 4.1.2 it NEEDS to be stock ROM and kernel for sky go to work. If I upgrade I want to get a ROM without knox, but any custom ROM won't work.
Please let me know as right I'm sticking to 4.1.2.
Thanks
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I don't know if this will work on skygo as I don't have sky but its worth a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
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sawdoctor said:
I don't know if this will work on skygo as I don't have sky but its worth a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
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Thanks for the tip mate
Will give it a go when I'm back from work and let you know

Why not just flash the bootloader from DN3 it works with all the official roms and is knox free?

(InsertNameHere) said:
Why not just flash the bootloader from DN3 it works with all the official roms and is knox free?
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Yeah I will probably do that at some point.
I'm assuming I can restore my nandroid backup to 4.1.2 if I'm not happy?
The xposed mod unfortunately didn't work... Thanks anyway

Some apps are funny as to what they decide is a security risk. Sky are so far up Apple's arse they tend to look for anything that's NOT as the manufacturer released as a security issue. It's actually bollocks but try telling them that.
My other Note 2 is rooted and running 4.3 without all the bs. But most of the apps I need simply won't install/run due to idiotic requirements of the app provider. Hence why I have a 2nd note 2 which has been rooted but I had to unroot and reset the flash counter to get these apps to work. Guess Sammy aren't too fussed, they did get 2 sales from me lol
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[Q] Baseband version meaning?

Hi, this is probably a super Noob question, but what is the difference between a N9005XXUDMK2 build and a N9005XXUDMJ7 builds.
I understand that the MK2 is an update that came after the MJ7 (which came loaded on my N9005).
Also, I get that the letters correspond to region and build date.
I just want to know if I can update my MJ7 baseband N-9005 to an MK2 build?
I tried out some of the unofficial releases of CM 11 so I don't have the OTA update option available to me anymore so this trouble.
Thanks!

Check the changelog, it's mainly slight bug fixes, yes you can upgrade and if you have issues you can fall back to MJ7 again without any problems
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radicalisto said:
Check the changelog, it's mainly slight bug fixes, yes you can upgrade and if you have issues you can fall back to MJ7 again without any problems
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Thanks! Giving it a try now.
I was also wondering if you have any idea as the why the name of the 'Phone' memory changes when you go from Stock to CM.
It goes from being '0' to 'legacy' or something. I'm not to sure. The problem I'm facing is that when I recover by Stock from a CM11, a lot of apps don't function as it is not able to recognize the phone memory as the name has changed.
I hope I made some sense.
Thanks again!

Not 100% sure, must be the way file systems are read.
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Device is modified?

My note 3 is running the belgian 4.4.2 I downloaded from Sam mobile and flashed with odin, though the phone says it is a custom rom and when I click check for updates it also says phone is modified.
Anyone know what the problem is here and how I can restore ota updates?
The phone was rooted when i was on 4.3 but I have flashed first the Polish and then the Belgian 4.4s via odin
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
My note 3 is running the belgian 4.4.2 I downloaded from Sam mobile and flashed with odin, though the phone says it is a custom rom and when I click check for updates it also says phone is modified.
Anyone know what the problem is here and how I can restore ota updates?
The phone was rooted when i was on 4.3 but I have flashed first the Polish and then the Belgian 4.4s via odin
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downgrade to 4.3 of ur region it may solve the problem.
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Thought you couldn't downgrade? I may as well wait for the UK 4.4 now
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x102x96x said:
downgrade to 4.3 of ur region it may solve the problem.
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You can't go back to JB from KK... You may as well have said to connect to Kies and let that fix it...
To the Op, check if your Knox warranty void has been tripped, if it has you may as well root and install a custom rom and/or recovery, or at the very least xposed framework.
You can't reset theKnox but you can use a mod to trick the system into thinking its official which will allow OTA updates. You may need a couple of things to be active so the OTA will install but I'll let you look that up.

ultramag69 said:
You can't go back to JB from KK... You may as well have said to connect to Kies and let that fix it...
To the Op, check if your Knox warranty void has been tripped, if it has you may as well root and install a custom rom and/or recovery, or at the very least xposed framework.
You can't reset theKnox but you can use a mod to trick the system into thinking its official which will allow OTA updates. You may need a couple of things to be active so the OTA will install but I'll let you look that up.
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thanks for info
i wanna know thr s no way to downgrade or thr s some special and difficult ways!?!?
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x102x96x said:
thanks for info
i wanna know thr s no way to downgrade or thr s some special and difficult ways!?!?
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Nope, once the bootlader has been upgraded there's no way to go back....

So once knox has been Tripped you cant get ota updates even on an official rom?
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
So once knox has been Tripped you cant get ota updates even on an official rom?
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You can get OTA, just not if it's rooted and status is custom....

ultramag69 said:
You can get OTA, just not if it's rooted and status is custom....
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thats my problem mate, Im not rooted, im on stock and it still says custom even after I have reflashed with odin.
am i missing something?

sweatingmytittsoff said:
thats my problem mate, Im not rooted, im on stock and it still says custom even after I have reflashed with odin.
am i missing something?
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Used to read about a bug on samsung phones where if it contains too many files it would show system status as modified. Try transfer as much as your files from phone memory into sdcard then remove it. Then check again system status. It sounds crazy but i'm pretty sure that's my understanding from the thread

Rosli59564 said:
Used to read about a bug on samsung phones where if it contains too many files it would show system status as modified. Try transfer as much as your files from phone memory into sdcard then remove it. Then check again system status. It sounds crazy but i'm pretty sure that's my understanding from the thread
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il give it a try bud cheers

Still says the same, device is modified ?
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If you have an SD Card remove it then boot up. Sometimes causes issues.
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That's what I just did from the post above and it hasn't changed anything, I also reflashed the rom with odin and it's still the same...
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Strange, when flashing back to complete stock everything goes back to official (bar knox of course) - did you try the xeo? It's possible if you've used another firmware (carrier or country) the device may not like it.
Also a complete wipe may help too.
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Well when I reflashed and it didn't work I did a factory reset and cleared the cache to no prevail.
What's the xeo mate?
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Mine is the same. I went to stock because my official kit kat came out. VIA O2 germany.
Still says custom. Might root and try triangle away. Not sure if I want to re set all back up again today though
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Has KK implemented a non return to official status then?
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Not sure but maybe if I install the btu when that comes out it will go back to official
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Possibly, if they've changed it. That's put the sh...ter up everyone now.. darn Samsung! ! Blergh. . They love alienating people huh.
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Finally Downgrade is a Yes.

For all those who are looking for a downgrade from Kit-Kat to JB, It is very much possible.
Device : I9500
1.Flash the pit file.
2.Flash JB Boot-Loader(Optional)
3.Flash Official JB ROM.
I have my device now running JB downgraded from 4.4.2.

Where i get jb bootloader i also want 2 downgrade

sjadhav252 said:
Where i get jb bootloader i also want 2 downgrade
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Samsung service center can get it done.

Can u give me

sjadhav252 said:
Can u give me
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I dont have the file. I got it done through a friend of mine who works for Samsung. As we are working with the
pit file, I would suggest you get it done officially.

And wat abt knox status

Fully official. Binary and Knox are 0.
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Is this reset knox 0×1 to 0×0

sjadhav252 said:
Is this reset knox 0×1 to 0×0
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I pretty much don't have an idea on this. But it does give you a confirmed downgrade to JB.
And with samsung's new certificates on security you lose all your data. :crying::crying:

Thanks !
You Made My Day :good:

If KNOX doesn't reset, it's kinda pointless to do so...

One worker of Samsung could downgrade one firmware..... something new on this? :laugh:
* EDIT: Expect 10023849238492384 millions of threads asking for this .PIT file

Ill try my best to get the pit file.
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can i get ur pit file and can i downgrade with 4.3 leak firmware

Akilesh said:
Ill try my best to get the pit file.
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pit file??
is there another pit for I9500 other then "Adonis"???
i dont think so

Downgrade I9505 from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2
I have just found a German YouTube video with working downgraded 4.2.2 for i9505. I also see that they're using the Adam 1.6 kernel. The only thing is that it's MF8 firmware. I would prefer MGA or MH8. The main reason I would like to be able to downgrade if I ever end up with 4.3 or above is so I can use Jkay Deluxe as the dev seems to have given up. It's the only mod that has what I want. There's no alternative that I can find.

Moreover 4.3 seems to have a better battery optimization. I don't know if kitkat has that. And i don't find much difference in ui.
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