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i dont know is that normal but my iconia a500 is very lagy whit only 2 pages opet like facebook or cnn...i have the latest 3.2 offical
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You are not he only one, mine also has lag, every Android tablet is ****ty. I also have 3.2 rooted with ad block and in Pulse Reader, it lags like hell, pages load without full content and the socalled "flash" is inexistent most of the time. Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. They should try an apple bitten logo tablet, I won't say the name, because haters will flame me.
Or they have overclocked like hell, but i don't like overclocking, it eats battery like a termite. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".

thanx i am hope that acer will fix that it is a big issue ,makes me nutz sometimes..

deio said:
You are not he only one, mine also has lag, every Android tablet is ****ty. I also have 3.2 rooted with ad block and in Pulse Reader, it lags like hell, pages load without full content and the socalled "flash" is inexistent most of the time. Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. They should try an apple bitten logo tablet, I won't say the name, because haters will flame me.
Or they have overclocked like hell, but i don't like overclocking, it eats battery like a termite. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".
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Dear deio,
I have a perfect perception of smoothness and I'm not going to lie to you - I have A500 with Lightspeed 1.0.4 with stock kernel. Runs SMOOTH AS BUTTER! My brother owns an iPAD 2 and trust me I've played a lot with this useless (for me) thing if that's the idea of "ultimate smoothness". OK, this thread is not about iPADs vs Android tablets (no matter your conclusion that every Android tablet is ****ty), its about the lag OP experienced with OTA 3.2 . huurux , either go ahead for a custom ROM or return your device for replacement.

Having the same problem since i downloaded ota 3.2. When i say lag, i meant like it takes me a couple of minutes to open up an app (not a specific app, almost any app causes the lag) and even that, when i try to execute anything with the app it takes a few more minutes. Android Market also tells me i have updates for my apps, click on update, and the download status bar will marquee endlessly and would not let me download anything. Was thinking i had a bad update.
My question is (and help me out cause i am a noob): Is there a way i can reflash the stock ota 3.2? I have tried the "check for update" but it will just tell me that my android is up-to-date. Please help, have tried looking in the forum but couldnt find a similar solution.
Another noobish question: If i factory reset i assume it will wipe all data. Is there an easy way i can reinstall all the apps i previously had before the factory reset? If so, will i be able to retain all the progress i made in the app? (eg: game progress, rss list, etc)Tks in advance =)

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Another noobish question: If i factory reset i assume it will wipe all data. Is there an easy way i can reinstall all the apps i previously had before the factory reset? If so, will i be able to retain all the progress i made in the app? (eg: game progress, rss list, etc)Tks in advance =)
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Get Titanium backup from Market - its the most usefull app for me that's why I got the paid version. It will backup all your apps with data. The free version would also do the job for you but the batch process of restoring apps later will require pressing OK on each app that is currently being restored.

Thanks for the fast reply. It seems that i am not able to download any apps from the moment because of the problem. Although internet seems to be working.

Try to download Titanium Backup from their web site. As for the lag, I'm on stock 3.2 and I don't have any lag, the tablet runs even faster than with 3.2, so something is causing the lag on your tablet, I suspect a bad application, it happened to me with my iPad and iTouch, that went slow as molasses, and it was bad application. Uninstalled and everything got fine.
So for those so quickly to blame any android tablet, pleas check first that really you didn't install any crap application, specially cracked or pirated ones, that is slowing the system.

deio said:
Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".
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LOL Epic fail

drkalo said:
Dear deio,
I have a perfect perception of smoothness and I'm not going to lie to you - I have A500 with Lightspeed 1.0.4 with stock kernel. Runs SMOOTH AS BUTTER! My brother owns an iPAD 2 and trust me I've played a lot with this useless (for me) thing if that's the idea of "ultimate smoothness". OK, this thread is not about iPADs vs Android tablets (no matter your conclusion that every Android tablet is ****ty), its about the lag OP experienced with OTA 3.2 . huurux , either go ahead for a custom ROM or return your device for replacement.
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I also have this "LightSpeed" ROM, is laggy as hell, this is not a hardware problem, tried with a different Iconia, I also had a TF101, it was a bit better, but lack of USB on the slate made me chose the Iconia.
Sorry but this is about all Android tablets, and I must apologize to you, but I don't believe you. There is no smoothness in ANY Android device.
Ok, recommend a ROM that has the lowest lag, I'll try it.

I really don't get any slowdowns. I am however using tabooney with Richard trip kernel set tobuserspace in setcpu. Its been really good for me
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I'm running EZTerry's "stock" rooted 3.2 OTA ROM without any lag, choppiness, or basically any issues at all. My battery life is what it's always been since buying it in May.
Unfortunately for the OP, if you accepted the OTA you can no longer root so apps like Titanium Backup or flashing a different ROM are no longer an option. You'll have to wait for someone to get root for OTA 3.2.
If you don't mind losing some of your apps, you can try a factory reset, load one app at a time from the market, and see if you can determine if an app is causing your problems.
Deio, continuing to call the A500 community liars and idiots in thread after thread is likely not going to result in much help coming your way. At this point my only advice to you is to eBay your A500 and go buy an iPad. Clearly, the A500 is simply not the device for you and you're never going to be happy with it.

deio, buy a f***ing iPad and leave us alone!

Lag
I've noticed a significant lag when the power plug is on (especially the touchscreen), as soon as I unplug the power cordless everything run smooth... weird
android 3.1

My roommate has the Transformer and I have the Iconia, we both lag like hell every two to three hours for about 5-10mins.

gnygny said:
I've noticed a significant lag when the power plug is on (especially the touchscreen), as soon as I unplug the power cordless everything run smooth... weird
android 3.1
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I also have the power/charge lag problem. I'm on stock rooted 3.1 using Richard Tripp's kernel to OC 1.4. Lagging during charging/ac power has been a problem for my A500 since new, with no root. Something about this engineering that makes it a problem for some units.
Going to load Taboonay and see if it makes a difference.

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jyams said:
I also have the power/charge lag problem. I'm on stock rooted 3.1 using Richard Tripp's kernel to OC 1.4. Lagging during charging/ac power has been a problem for my A500 since new, with no root. Something about this engineering that makes it a problem for some units.
Going to load Taboonay and see if it makes a difference.
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My config A500 3.1 rooted, I didn't have this issue be4 3.1 update.

Try thors newest v11. I only get lag on this website for some reason, it takes a quick second for the whole page to show. Its hit and miss. Every now and then it will go away. I watch alot of 720p videos. Both streaming from my home server or downloaded to one of my sdcards. All my daily uses, email, surfing, videos, etc. have almost no lag.

Ok here we go...
The best I can guess from reading about all of your lag problems is that there is a program or programs that are running in your background processes and eating up cpu/memory. Go to settings-applications-running applications and see what is on right now; subsequently see what is running directly after a reboot. If a bunch of random apps are running, it is very likely they are causing the lag. Especially if they are syncing or accessing the web. My suggestion would be to either uninstall these apps or go into their individual settings and turn off anything that would have it constantly working (not just running, it is ok for some apps to run in the background, as Android is programmed to control memory usage while allowing apps to run when not it use, but specifically 'working' in the background will eat up resources). Also, how often do you have your syncs scheduled? Any info that you do not need to have constantly synced (ie backup email addresses, facebook, weather intervals, etc.) should be either turned off or set to sync only a few times a day. For example, I have 11 running apps right now (been running without a reboot for a few days), consisting mainly of core Android processes, my keyboard, email, cpu scaler, and just 2 apps that I have downloaded that run in the background (mind you I have about 50 apps installed).
Furthermore...
All this talk about the iPad and how smooth it is...that's because it utilizes hardware accelerated graphics, something that Android will now have with the release of Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0. True, the level of smoothness on an iPad typically surpasses that of an Android device, but that is soon to change. Then what will the iPad really have? A boring home screen that consists of nothing more than only our app drawer and a ton of games. Android brings WAY more to the table, no question about it.
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I am running a custom rom (Taboonay 2.1b) with an overclocked/undervolted processor (1.4ghz -150mv) and my Iconia gets kick ass battery life. I need to really try to kill this thing, no joke. I play hi-def/3d games, watch flash content on the web, Netflix, internet browsing, email, create word docs, use external usb peripherals, and more. To get the best battery life you just have to be smart about it.
Suggestions:
Turn off auto backlight. I don't think it works very well on the Iconia anyway, I have my brightness set at about 20% and it's perfectly visible (if you're used to having it brighter give it some time, you'll adjust) and when I am in bright light I simply change it as needed.
Check sync schedule. Weather really only needs to be updated like every 3 hours at most. Do you really need to know the temperature AS it changes? Don't think so.
Do you have multiple email addresses? Unless they are work related, you can probably just set them to sync manually and check it a couple times a day without it turning on itself.
Facebook/Twitter syncing is the devil. Unless you are a 15 year old girl that needs to know what her bff is doing at all times, slow down the sync on these apps!
Is your WiFi set to turn off with your screen? This is a BIG ONE! Settings-Wireless/Networks-WiFi Settings-WiFi Disconnect Policy-When Screen Turns Off. You'll notice a change immediately.
For some more info on what's killing your battery, and therefore more than likely sucking up resources and causing lag, go to Settings-Applications-Battery Use. The blue lines should line up accordingly: Your device should only be Awake and have the WiFi on when the Screen is on, except for a few dashes here and there for normal syncing. Large blue squares of Awake when the screen isn't on means something is running in the background that probably shouldn't be. WiFi on all the time kills battery. Get it? Also, the list of apps that take up battery should only be ones that YOU KNOW you are using on a constant basis. If something is on there that you don't normally use a lot, it means it's running in the background and sucking up a lot of resources (other than screen, tablet idle, and Android OS, these should be there).
Moral of the story...
I gave my 3 year old kids my iPhone. It's a kids toy, same with the iPad. Period. An Android device is one of the most powerful, customizable and capable devices available. There is a lot more that can be done with it than with most other more simple devices. With great power comes great responsibility. Take control of your device, what you do with it and what it does. Lag? What lag.
Phew. I'm a little drunk at the moment, so hope I didn't go too crazy here. What was this post about by the way? Ha! Hit the thanks button if this made any sense to anyone out there

Honestly, I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm running stock unrooted 3.2(mostly because I've been too lazy to revert back to a rooted ROM)and have very little to no lag. Realizing that its all personal perception and that I gave my Ipod to my kid so I don't really have anything to compare it to, I'm way more than happy with the performance of my tablet. The only time I have to wait is when I open up the Acer content folders, sometimes it takes a second or two for them to open. I can definitely live with that, if the trade off is a fully usable tablet that I can customize to my own needs. Battery life is well above expectations as well for me. Usually two days of semi-heavy use before I start to get that panicky feeling that comes when my battery meter drops below 30%.

GS3 vs N4 multitasking

A quick question for you lucky people who have got your N4s:
What's the multitasking like? I'm hoping it must be flawless with 2gigs of RAM?
Can someone who has GTA3 tell me if you can pick up exactly where you left off, if you've gone out of the game to do other things for a while? On my current phone GS3, it has the annoying habit of kicking me back to the beginning of the last mission I started if I leave the game for any reason. Is this a RAM limitation on my phone, or does GTA3 do this on all phones?
EDIT: I should mention I'm using the international GS3 i9300, that only has 1GB RAM.

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A quick question for you lucky people who have got your N4s:
What's the multitasking like? I'm hoping it must be flawless with 2gigs of RAM?
Can someone who has GTA3 tell me if you can pick up exactly where you left off, if you've gone out of the game to do other things for a while? On my current phone GS3, it has the annoying habit of kicking me back to the beginning of the last mission I started if I leave the game for any reason. Is this a RAM limitatio on my phone, or does GTA3 do this on all phones?
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Flawless
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Flawless
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Without a doubt... Flawless.

Multi tasking/over all experience is orgasmic.
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My biggest problem with my older phones was that they would constantly close out the apps that I needed to stay open like contacts, messaging, phone. It annoyed me that my old clam shell phones would instantly open contacts and my G2 couldn't open then faster than 4 seconds or so. This thing leaves all those open and they all open instantaneously.
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Flawless x2. Seriously, apps stay in memory for a considerably greater amount of time than my Atrix 2, and obviously longer than my Captivate. It makes switching to almost anything smooth and snappy.
Flawless.
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What the other guys said - it is really great. No app loses it status, even if you have open quite a few of them. Switching between apps is absolutely fluent, no hiccups no waiting, nothing!

This should set the expectations of every Android phone.... Stock Android.

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This should set the expectations of every Android phone.... Stock Android.
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Agreed
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To be honest with you, multitasking has completely amazed me on the N4. On the Gnex, apps would close right away. With the N4, I go back to the browser at the end of the day, and the page I loaded hours earlier is still in memory In fact, I have yet to see my phone go below 950mb RAM remaining. I really think 2gb was overkill (1.5 would've easily done the job), but hey, I'm not complaining Also, keep in mind that I don't use any widgets at all, and I have very few things running in the background aside from Skype, so others may have a different experience.
Edit: As for GTA, it might be the game doing this. For example, Livingsocial is really annoying like that too. It doesn't matter if you just hit home and come back right away, it'll start from beginning. Yet, World of Goo, a much more demanding app, will come back exactly as I left it even when I leave to browse the internet for a while. Some developers really need to get with the program. I personally don't have GTA, so I couldn't tell you specifically.

Perfect. No other word to describe it. So much so I've noticed the phone stuttering a bit when scrolling (like a TINY bit, much less than any other android phone normally) and out of instinct opened the task killer to find 30+ applications all RUNNING. Including GTA3,

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Perfect. No other word to describe it. So much so I've noticed the phone stuttering a bit when scrolling (like a TINY bit, much less than any other android phone normally) and out of instinct opened the task killer to find 30+ applications all RUNNING. Including GTA3,
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OK, I know its good, but 30 RUNNING? You do realize some stay in the launcher but aren't running, right? So you clicked them and they all didn't need to reload? I find that hard to believe. Someone should do a stress test of how many apps you can open before they need to reload when you go back to them and post it on YouTube
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[Q] Memory Leak? Avoidable?

Just decided to use my Nexus 10 after about a day or two of inactivity, and I noticed it was real sluggish. Went over to Running apps, everything shown there is Restarting, and there is only about 77MB of RAM free.
I've had this happen a few times I believe.
Is this scenario avoidable in any way?

espionage724 said:
Just decided to use my Nexus 10 after about a day or two of inactivity, and I noticed it was real sluggish. Went over to Running apps, everything shown there is Restarting, and there is only about 77MB of RAM free.
I've had this happen a few times I believe.
Is this scenario avoidable in any way?
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Free RAM isn't usually a problem: Android will cache things in memory to help them load faster, so normally seeing <100mb of free RAM isn't anything to be concerned about, and will not affect performance at all.
The sluggishness and "restarting" services sound like something bad, though.
First, make sure you aren't running any kind of automatic task manager/killer. Next, after restarting your device, keep an eye on that running services tab in Android settings: apps. See if any of them seem to be growing in RAM use disproportionately to the others. It may take a few hours to show up.
I suspect you have one bad app with a leak causing low memory to force the other services out of memory.

Even after caching and such this tablet should normally have 400-600MB of free RAM though. The low amounts definitely come from a memory leak. Right now the general consensus is that it cannot be avoided because it is a problem with the GPU driver. How much truth there is to this I dont know. I do know that I myself did not have performance issues or memory leaks when I was back on 4.2.1 running CM10.1, so I still feel like something in 4.2.2 introduced a memory leak.

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Even after caching and such this tablet should normally have 400-600MB of free RAM though. The low amounts definitely come from a memory leak.
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It is normal and expected for free memory to dip lower than that during normal operation. It is simply inaccurate to tell people otherwise.
I would caution against claiming something is "definitely" anything with so little solid information.
It might be that there is a memory leak, but it is much more likely to be a user app than a kernel memory leak until there is hard data saying otherwise. As of now there is only one highly subjective user report.

During operation yes, but when you pick it up after days of the tablet idling with nothing running?
There is plenty of solid information if you have looked around the development threads with all the activity trying to pin down the memory leaks everyone is having, to say one doesnt exist just shows how little you have been getting around the threads.

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Free RAM isn't usually a problem: Android will cache things in memory to help them load faster, so normally seeing <100mb of free RAM isn't anything to be concerned about, and will not affect performance at all.
The sluggishness and "restarting" services sound like something bad, though.
First, make sure you aren't running any kind of automatic task manager/killer. Next, after restarting your device, keep an eye on that running services tab in Android settings: apps. See if any of them seem to be growing in RAM use disproportionately to the others. It may take a few hours to show up.
I suspect you have one bad app with a leak causing low memory to force the other services out of memory.
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Nothing in Recent apps, I had all my usual apps installed. Most of the time when I'm doing nothing I have hundreds of MB of RAM available as free space.
No Task Killers either. Couldn't even open a game I had (would instantly go back to launcher, no FC message) or take a screenshot even.

Just my personal experience, but I have owned my N10 since December and frequently let mine idle for days and have never come across this issue yet. Memory on mine is usually above 600MB everytime I check it in the Apps setting, I don't think I've ever seen it go under 100 since I've owned it, and I do go in there a lot to force stop certain things that autostart. I am leaning more towards what ZanshinG1 said that its a rogue app installed thats eating it

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During operation yes, but when you pick it up after days of the tablet idling with nothing running?
There is plenty of solid information if you have looked around the development threads with all the activity trying to pin down the memory leaks everyone is having, to say one doesnt exist just shows how little you have been getting around the threads.
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I suspect we have different standards for what qualifies as useful information. Let's just leave it at that.
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Nothing in Recent apps, I had all my usual apps installed. Most of the time when I'm doing nothing I have hundreds of MB of RAM available as free space.
No Task Killers either. Couldn't even open a game I had (would instantly go back to launcher, no FC message) or take a screenshot even.
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Do you have any apps which use OpenGL ES running? Games and live wallpapers are the usual suspects.

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Do you have any apps which use OpenGL ES running? Games and live wallpapers are the usual suspects.
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Nope, nothing was open at the time, and had a normal wallpaper (non-Live).

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I suspect we have different standards for what qualifies as useful information. Let's just leave it at that.
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For the record surfaceflinger will eat about 100 megs per hour of video when you watch YouTube through chrome. I've duplicated this on stock, CM, mrrobinson AOKP, and raspbean. At about 600 megs the tablet will start misbehaving, closing apps, being sluggish, keyboard won't come up in chrome when you go to the address bar, etc. If you can stand to wait it will eventually reboot usually when idle in my case. Oddly enough the YouTube app doesn't produce the same results on the same video.
The usefulness is debatable. The facts are not.
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Hopefully ROM dev's will add some newer AOSP commits to their ROMs too, such as:
Fix a minor leak in dvmCreateInlineSubsTable (commit to aosp)
minor leaks caused by failed initialization in JNI_CreateJavaVM (commit to aosp)
Fix a minor bug in dvmCreateInterpThread (commit to aosp)
Fix some leaks in VfyBasicBlock & BitVector (commit to aosp)
But it is probably a rogue app.

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But it is probably a rogue app.
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Chrome?
So for s&gs I installed naked browser and I'm not seeing the climb like I did with chrome. After about 4 hours of YouTube it went up 4 megs instead of 400 megs. I just saw another user seem to confirm this too.
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Chrome?
So for s&gs I installed naked browser and I'm not seeing the climb like I did with chrome. After about 4 hours of YouTube it went up 4 megs instead of 400 megs. I just saw another user seem to confirm this too.
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I don't watch videos from Chrome, and it wasn't open at the time either (I may of opened it earlier before I noticed the memory leak, but I know I swiped it away from Recents when I was done with it). I didn't use the YouTube app either.

Had it occur again, although it wasn't "as" severe since I was able to load a game and take screenshots this time; performance was definitely slower though...
Running Apps:
Cached Apps:

Maybe run PS in terminal the next time and grab a screenshot. Then after reboot or return to normal do it again and compare usage?
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I have my tablet reboot every night at 4am with Tasker-Secure Settings plugin. Maybe not a fix for the issue at hand, but enough to make this problem go away permanently and reliably.

Easy fix: don't use trash roms like aokp or cm
I personally use team eos and ktmanta and the system runs super smooth with no memory leaks what so ever. After 32 hours if I clean all apps I got 600 or 700 mb free.

lvnatic said:
Easy fix: don't use trash roms like aokp or cm
I personally use team eos and ktmanta and the system runs super smooth with no memory leaks what so ever. After 32 hours if I clean all apps I got 600 or 700 mb free.
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Wow. Talk about trash talk.
I've never ahd this issue on AOKP or CM, have on PA... I did enjoy Eos when I used it but found RootBox had the features I needed. Then again... I reboot every few nights typically. My mom leaves her Nexus 7 on for weeks on end with no issue, but its not a 10.

lvnatic said:
Easy fix: don't use trash roms like aokp or cm
I personally use team eos and ktmanta and the system runs super smooth with no memory leaks what so ever. After 32 hours if I clean all apps I got 600 or 700 mb free.
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I don't consider rasbeanjelly trash...

I think I've run into this bug once, after a couple days of usage, likely mostly inactive without charging. I noticed that everything I tried to do was really sluggish and once I saw all the apps restarting in the built-in task manager, I figured something was seriously borked, so I rebooted the tablet and it was back to normal. Given all the other stability problems others have reported with this tablet, I'm glad just a very occasional reboot like this is the worst of my problems. :victory: I'm running stock Android 4.2.2, with only a handful of apps installed, probably more default apps uninstalled than apps added.

Anyone else noticing lag?

Picked up the Note 3 yesterday and so far I'm loving it, however, there have been a handful of times where the device has lagged or momentarily froze. Not only does it hang, but the app crashes too. This has happened with the built-in Samsung apps.
If I remember correctly, I was bouncing around my home screen and app drawer (TouchWiz). I specifically remember swiping up from the bottom to open Flipboard, it hung, then I got a message stating My Magazine has crashed and stopped..
This is not what I was expecting from my new Note 3 :crying:
EDIT: Also, the screen doesn't come on instantly when I click the lock button. There's usually a slight delay.

yeah i get minor lag every now and then but i find that normal as i have ALOT of apps running... i was haing tw home FC, i think it FCed 3 or 4 times didnt happen again but i still uninstalled it via tibu cuz i am using nova instead... as for the waking lag yeah i get that sometimes as well but not all the time.... some widgets like the clock widget i have on my homscreen/lockscreen take 5-10 secs to load...
PS- btw this question belongs in the Q&A section, not the general section
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It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.

BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
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I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.

very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.

letsgophillyingeneral said:
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.

Skander1998 said:
letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.
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I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.

letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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You have the S800 version.
Bugs it is then, Google will have to fix the playstore, also Samsung has to fix that "My Magazine" thing, I mean it runs fast but the first load and the updating is quite slow and buggy.
Other than that, It's fast everywhere I noticed, and it should be with that hardware.

BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps... but i do agree that everyone has a different understanding of the word "lag"
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.
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ok now that is weird.. i should even say i haev minor lag, its more like the phone stutters every now and then
chrisrotolo said:
very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.
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i have that issue only when i try changing the multi window apps.. i have to touch the apps like 2 or 3 times for the touch to register
Skander1998 said:
letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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no the international n9000 wont get the HMP update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469610
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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yeah you have the snapdragon, the octa core/xynos chipset is in the international version.. US didnt get it
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Khizar said:
yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps...
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There's no such thing as a "SM-900" or "SM-9005" ROM. Each regional ROM is different and can have different versions of Samsung's own apps and third party apps that are bundled with it. So one region could have force closes out-of-the-box while another doesn't.
I'll give you an example. When the N10.1 came out people were complaining they couldn't import PDFs in to S Note. After researching it, based on region, there were almost a dozen different versions of S Note used in the various ROMs Samsung deployed worldwide. Two of those versions were borked and couldn’t import PDFs. And that was within 90 days of the N10.1's release. So it's very possible that the strange behavior people are reporting could be regional. OP and I both have U.S. versions of the SM-9005 but are on two different carriers. So if he's experiencing the behavior he described after a hard reset it's probably something unique to his carrier's (Verizon) version of the s/w.

Well then, poor exynos buyers, I was tempted to get one for that lone reason, no I don't regret passing it at all and getting the 9005.

BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???

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Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???
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I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.

I have power button lag. Takes a full second after pressing the power button to sleep sometimes. Clearing processes from RAM usually solves this.
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I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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letsgophillyingeneral said:
I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.
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Incredibly annoying why Samsung chose to persist with this.

PaulGG said:
I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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i have had music force close a few times but nothing else. why dont u try a factory reset? i would wipe dalvik cache too but i dont know if u can do it without root.
give the n3 a chance to receive a few updates before you make up your mind. also could be initial hardware that is faulty, the very first note 2 i got had quite a few issues. sold and bought a new one few months later and that one lasted me until n3.

Just as a thought maybe a 4.3 android thing, I know when my old N7 got 4.3 it was not as stable as the previous version, also my note 8.0 and note 2 are fast more stable than my Note 3. Unloaded a load of app today and it seems better, it is fast and I am sure Samsung will issue updates. Be interesting to see how the N2 and S4 deal with version 4.3
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Over heating and lag (thermal throttle?) multiple times a day.

I would like to know if anyone else is having the problems I am having, and possible a solution.
Multiple times a day and seemingly random times, the phone heats up temendesly and starts lagging really badly, sometimes so bad I can't even unlock it.
I can't figure out if something is causing it because alot of the time it starts happening while its in my pocket, locked. Alot of the time when it does heat up it just stays hot, so I have to turn it off and leave it for 5-10 minutes to allow it to cool down. Once it has cooled down and I switch it back on, it seems to stay cool (Untill it has another episode and overheats again).
But then other times, I can be watching videos or playing games and it is very responsive and doesn't heat up more than it should, how ever this is rare.
I searched the forums but only found one related post. They had their phone replaced once, and so have I for other reasons. Could I have a defective unit?
Are there any apps I can use to monitor resource usage to maybe see if its a rougue app or system process?
I will also mention that I am using the Hyperion extended battery for the phone, but im not sure if it plays a roll in the issue, as the battery itself does not seem to get hot, only the CPU (I can feel it very hot where the figureprint scanner is)
I have not tested the phone with the stock battery, how ever I may try this.
Thanks,

Well I have had mine a few days. And compared to other phones I have had, it at times while locked does seem a bit warmer. However it hasnt concerned me much, or been truly "HOT" as in 90c and up.
Only time my phone got extremely hot was on first boot out the box for about 30 min. I would definitely suggest seeing how it behaves over a day with stock battery, if for nothing more than process of elimination.
Not sure if your rooted? And I'm not sure any kernel has it, but the IntellX governor sits at 300mhz while locked. Useful for keeping temps down. Also kernel auditor (needs root) shows cpu/gpu/battery temps right on the "overall" section.
Not sure what other apps you have, but possibly have some kind of runaway process(s)? have you tried safe mode for a day to see if it still happens?

MDMAchine said:
Well I have had mine a few days. And compared to other phones I have had, it at times while locked does seem a bit warmer. However it hasnt concerned me much, or been truly "HOT" as in 90c and up.
Only time my phone got extremely hot was on first boot out the box for about 30 min. I would definitely suggest seeing how it behaves over a day with stock battery, if for nothing more than process of elimination.
Not sure if your rooted? And I'm not sure any kernel has it, but the IntellX governor sits at 300mhz while locked. Useful for keeping temps down.
Not sure what other apps you have, but possibly have some kind of runaway process(s)? have you tried safe mode for a day to see if it still happens?
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I might try stock battery tomorrow if I can find where I put it.
Not rooted currently.
Also not sure how to boot to safe mode?
Also just to clarify, it overheats all the time, not just when locked. I will try a temp monitoring app to see what its at when its overheating

Safe mode
With the screen on, press and hold the Power key.
In the options menu that displays, press and hold Power off.
When prompted to restart in Safe Mode, tap OK.
After your device restarts, it displays Safe mode at the bottom of the screen.
Uninstall apps that are causing a problem.
Turn off safe mode
With the screen on, press and hold the Power key.
In the options menu that displays, tap Power off and restart.
The device will restart and Safe mode overlay will no longer show on the screen.

So I haven't tried stock battery or safe mode, but I did a reset on the phone. The phone has been running great. After about 2 weeks now its starting to slow again, heat up a lot more. I am really puzzled to why this is happening. I'm not sure if it is a app I have installed. Are there any apps that monitor usage on the phone? Or any other ideas why I keep experiencing these problems.

Same issue here, I fixed it by flashing a kernel that has rctd removed. Maybe systemless rooting can cause the root checking service to bug out and start spawning numerous loops until it is using up a large percentage of CPU.

To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.

Still_living714 said:
To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two [emoji111]️ cents.
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Not true as dleclair in the post obove you stated you can stop all lag with this device. Since removing the files on my phone it has never lagged. Snappy as a fresh install
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tylerw1369 said:
Not true as dleclair in the post obove you stated you can stop all lag with this device. Since removing the files on my phone it has never lagged. Snappy as a fresh install
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I've tried all custom kernels for h918 and its all the same. Maybe it works for you but didn't work for me

Still_living714 said:
To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.
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But if we are honest here, the phone should not be slowing down after a few weeks usage. It should stay running almost as good as a fresh phone/reset. My old GN3 slowed down after all my apps, sure, but not like this phone does.
dleclair said:
Same issue here, I fixed it by flashing a kernel that has rctd removed. Maybe systemless rooting can cause the root checking service to bug out and start spawning numerous loops until it is using up a large percentage of CPU.
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Maybe i'm confused by what you mean, but doesn't that mean that should only affect me if I am Rooted? Although I am thinking of rooting and trying different Kernels if it helps.

These are the types of issues I am getting. I know someone else through my job who has the same phone but does not have these issues. Is it faulty? Would a kernel fix it and are there any for my model ? (H990DS) I can't seem to find any for this phone. Send help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b9rDd_UY6w

I'm not sure how much useful information you can get from apps without root to monitor your device for troubles like this, but you should at least look into the monitoring capabilities in Android and have the device on for a good amount of time to catch when these performance issues hit. hopefully it is just a rogue app

It is very easy to fix Man
By simply replacing the thermal config file

dimm0k said:
I'm not sure how much useful information you can get from apps without root to monitor your device for troubles like this, but you should at least look into the monitoring capabilities in Android and have the device on for a good amount of time to catch when these performance issues hit. hopefully it is just a rogue app
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I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
maxi65 said:
It is very easy to fix Man
By simply replacing the thermal config file
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???

Singularity_iOS said:
I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
???
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well it's going to take time to figure out something like this out. what I would do is root and then use something like SystemPanel 2 https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-systempanel2-boost-clean-t3552690 and see the live view of what's currently using up CPU. what's good about this app is that it gives you an overview of usage over 3, 8, 24 hours so you can see what was using the most CPU during a certain range of time. but it would be best to see if you can have this app running for a bit and check it right when the lag is occurring.

Singularity_iOS said:
I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
???
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Due to file extension error, i can't post the file here but here is the link Of the thread but you gonna need to root the device
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/mod-fix-cpu-throttling-charging-gaming-t3650705[/url]

Right. So I'm a little salty at the moment. I have had ES File Explorer on my phones for probably close to 2 years now. If anyone has used it lately you would know about the anoying notifications that it has. So last night I decided to uninstall it to see if possible ES explorer was causing the lag by indexing my files or something. And lo and behold 30 seconds after uninstalling the CPU cooled down and the phone was USABLE. Played around with it a bit, jumped from app to app, webpage, video, all running as they are supposed to, not super laggy and delayed. I am 99% sure it was ES File explorer giving me grief over the last 12 months owning this phone. I'm really hoping that was the only issue and I can now use my phone as intended. If that's all it was, then thanks for the help from those who are here.

Singularity_iOS said:
Right. So I'm a little salty at the moment. I have had ES File Explorer on my phones for probably close to 2 years now. If anyone has used it lately you would know about the anoying notifications that it has. So last night I decided to uninstall it to see if possible ES explorer was causing the lag by indexing my files or something. And lo and behold 30 seconds after uninstalling the CPU cooled down and the phone was USABLE. Played around with it a bit, jumped from app to app, webpage, video, all running as they are supposed to, not super laggy and delayed. I am 99% sure it was ES File explorer giving me grief over the last 12 months owning this phone. I'm really hoping that was the only issue and I can now use my phone as intended. If that's all it was, then thanks for the help from those who are here.
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Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Stopped using it 2 years ago when it started being filled with ads and having features bolted onto it. Moved on to Solid Explorer with the FTP plugin, and never once had an issue
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With Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.
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Lack of support on a specific variant isn't cause to discredit a whole model. If you wanted support or specific functionality like root, a custom ROM or kernel for example, you research the variant with the most development activity and purchase that one. It's why I got the H990DS, that's still kicking.

iDefalt said:
Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Stopped using it 2 years ago when it started being filled with ads and having features bolted onto it. Moved on to Solid Explorer with the FTP plugin, and never once had an issue
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Lack of support on a specific variant isn't cause to discredit a whole model. If you wanted support or specific functionality like root, a custom ROM or kernel for example, you research the variant with the most development activity and purchase that one. It's why I got the H990DS, that's still kicking.
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Makes no sense since I have t mobile. I get my phones through them.

Still_living714 said:
Makes no sense since I have t mobile. I get my phones through them.
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Maybe on your next contract renewal look at going a SIM-only plan. Changes your world.