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Got a Htc touch Hd off the internet thats unlocked,, called 02 for there wap/mms setting
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
got told that a 02 don't support this phone on pay as you goso i can't use it on the internet or send mms ..
just put your SIM in the phone, and use the settings on the webpage you have linked to... 'nuff said. If O2 wanted to dicatate what device you used your Pay and Go SIM in, then they shouldn't supply SIM cards without handsets. If they refuse you service based on the handset model you intend to use, then don't use them, plain and simple, use a different operator.
Budadank said:
just put your SIM in the phone, and use the settings on the webpage you have linked to... 'nuff said. If O2 wanted to dicatate what device you used your Pay and Go SIM in, then they shouldn't supply SIM cards without handsets. If they refuse you service based on the handset model you intend to use, then don't use them, plain and simple, use a different operator.
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02 said there maybe a softwear issue.. on that note no uk service provider supports this phone on pay as you go
ok done it... just mms to set up now.
basically their network server has detected ive switched from my contract phone (nokia e71) to an "unsuported" 2g phone. so how it went was for the first week, 3g internet worked fine on my hd2 then the server decided my phone was only a 2g phone and decided to ensure compatability with my phone it needed to switch off 3g access to my phone. after a call to my operator (3) they are basically unwilling to do anything about it because its not on their list of approved phones.
My question is, is it possible to change how the device id is reported to the operator?
Ruffian said:
basically their network server has detected ive switched from my contract phone (nokia e71) to an "unsuported" 2g phone. so how it went was for the first week, 3g internet worked fine on my hd2 then the server decided my phone was only a 2g phone and decided to ensure compatability with my phone it needed to switch off 3g access to my phone. after a call to my operator (3) they are basically unwilling to do anything about it because its not on their list of approved phones.
My question is, is it possible to change how the device id is reported to the operator?
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It's most likely tied in to the IMEI, so probably not.
That's tight as hell! Can't see how they can do that unless they feel they're 'protecting' their network
not good news at all really and yea its pretty crap of them to have a system that works like that. the "tech" guy said i was really lucky to have a non 3 phone that worked on 3g and that the server had picked it up and disabled 3g. asked if he could change the setting and all he said was ohh we cant do that youll need to put sim card in a 3 phone!
Ruffian said:
not good news at all really and yea its pretty crap of them to have a system that works like that. the "tech" guy said i was really lucky to have a non 3 phone that worked on 3g and that the server had picked it up and disabled 3g. asked if he could change the setting and all he said was ohh we cant do that youll need to put sim card in a 3 phone!
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Tell them your 3-phone is being repaired and you will be using the HD2 in the meantime. If they do not assist cancel or refuse to pay your contract. If you're not getting access to the services you're paying for, I'd say they're in breach of the contract anyway.
Ruffian said:
basically their network server has detected ive switched from my contract phone (nokia e71) to an "unsuported" 2g phone. so how it went was for the first week, 3g internet worked fine on my hd2 then the server decided my phone was only a 2g phone and decided to ensure compatability with my phone it needed to switch off 3g access to my phone. after a call to my operator (3) they are basically unwilling to do anything about it because its not on their list of approved phones.
My question is, is it possible to change how the device id is reported to the operator?
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Since when was an HD2 a 2g phone?
Switch back and get the 3G access and then use the HD2 in 3G mode. Or am I missing something?
I use 4 different phones (three of them so called "unsupported" phones) and two different internet modems on my 3 service and I have no such problem.
Why would they want to deny you the service that they have contracted with you to provide and for which you are paying?
It doesn't make sense!
Guys, maybe a bit of stupid question, but...
When I power on the device, without a sim, there's no menu, just a red cross for the emergency calls. And that's all.
Is developers from SE mentally retarded for not providing offline operating mode, or all others mobile brands (htc, nokia, siemens...) are stupid that they allow users using the full capabilities of their gadgets even when there's no SIM inside it?
Thinking that 1GHz of CPU WLAN,GPS,BT etc... is far more than simply a low class mobile handset made just for in/out going calls.
And about the fonts? There's no option changing the size.
Is this really a SE problem and not Android related then? I've not looked into the matter as of now couse i'm on the bus. But i know you can do what you ask on WM phones, so this might be an Android error.
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I've noticed this isue for all of SE phones (Not Working Without a SIM!). It's a kind of tradition, or a company policy for SE to lock their phones with a sim card.
Nexus One could be used without a sim, as most of the HTCs even under android. For windows mobile I am sure that it's ok without a sim. It'll take ages for SE developers to rewrite the kernel instructions on WM to lock it for SIM.
Don't use an Android phone without a sim card if you want paid apps appear in the Android market. Otherwise you will only have the option of the free ones.
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I have found something about the problem:
android-tricks.blogspot.com/2009/01/using-adp1-without-sim-card.html
Maybe it is usefull and for SE X10i.
May I ask some one to test it, 'cause I still can not install phone drivers.
Get the phone unlocked and you will be able to use it offline. When I got my Rogers branded one, it was doing the exact thing which really sucked cause Im not with Rogers. So once I unlocked it, you can use it offline.
There's an app on the market called "wosim" which allows you to use the phone without a SIM. I know this works because my friend downloaded and used it. I was like, what app is this? and he showed me..
Unlock and or debrand it and it will work fine without a sim. Mine does
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If I debrand or reflash the guarantee falls out.
Unfortunately i'm unable even to start the phone because it is operator locked and I don't have the proper sim. It is a client phone and he insist on its guarantee. And I understand him, most of the hi-tech gadgets - especially expensive ones - are complete crap and replicas in my country.
I saw that wosim require root access.
Is it possible to make a firmware backup?
And how to distinct X10a from X10i? I mean is it written somewhere in the phone or model info, inside the service menu?
wosim doesn't require root access...
how to install wosim? As I see the only way is from gmarket. But I don't have a wifi router around me and the X10i could not connect to ad-hoc networks so I can reroute my network traffic to the phone.
Can not insert a SIM card - the phone rejects it.
May I ask if someone could post wosim for me?
This:
http://android-tricks.blogspot.com/2009/01/using-adp1-without-sim-card.html
doesn't work on X10i.
When trying sqlite3, it brings error sqlite3: Not Found
and when trying to copy settings.db it brings Permission denied. Which leads me to thinking that su is not working properly on my phone
Set it up in flight mode...
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Set it up in flight mode...
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Flight mode does not provide no good if there's no sim inside, or not the correct one. Just brings me to Emergency Call.
I have a T-mobile Unlimited Web+ 400 free messages and the issues is this plan is paid for by my company and I cannot change the plan, currently data works on my HD2 with Android.. I want to know if the data will work on a rooted myTouch 4g without changing to Android data plan? Can anyone explain this to me??
If I understand things correctly -- and I may not -- a GSM carrier's "plan" is tied to the SIM card.
With that assumption, you can move the SIM card from the HD2 to the MT4G without T-Mobile's involvement. Whatever agreements you have with T-Mobile will remain in force, assuming the phone is capabile of providing those services. You could also go the other way, and move the SIM to a lower end "feature phone" and be limited to text only, as such a phone doesn't have Data capability. But you or your company would be paying on the same plan.
If you are switching SIMs for any reason -- for instance, keeping the HD2 as a personal phone, then T-Mobile would have to provision the new SIM. Using this scenario, they might recommend moving the HD2's SIM into the MT4G for use as your business phone, and putting the MT4G's SIM into the HD2 and provisioning it with a personal plan.
Rooting and using a custom ROM have no bearing on your carrier plan. Unless you need to return the phone for some reason, in which case restoring stock software is advised.
Thank you
jggimi said:
If I understand things correctly -- and I may not -- a GSM carrier's "plan" is tied to the SIM card.
With that assumption, you can move the SIM card from the HD2 to the MT4G without T-Mobile's involvement. Whatever agreements you have with T-Mobile will remain in force, assuming the phone is capabile of providing those services. You could also go the other way, and move the SIM to a lower end "feature phone" and be limited to text only, as such a phone doesn't have Data capability. But you or your company would be paying on the same plan.
If you are switching SIMs for any reason -- for instance, keeping the HD2 as a personal phone, then T-Mobile would have to provision the new SIM. Using this scenario, they might recommend moving the HD2's SIM into the MT4G for use as your business phone, and putting the MT4G's SIM into the HD2 and provisioning it with a personal plan.
Rooting and using a custom ROM have no bearing on your carrier plan. Unless you need to return the phone for some reason, in which case restoring stock software is advised.
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Thanks a lot for the quick reply.. My main issue is, T-mobile has different data plans for different category of phones, I currently use an HD2 like I told and the data works.. But when I tried using the same SIM in Android it did not work.. I was wondering how T-mobile will know what type of phone I am using...
I don't know how data works on HD2 (on Android).. I totally agree with your explanation, as I am not going to buy a myTouch 4G on contract from T-mobile, I am going to buy it off Craigslist so there will be no T-mobile involvement.. I called up T-mobile to check if I can change my data plan but they said I can't as only my Company can do that.. I cannot ask my company to change the data plan as that is out of the question..
I know its really a strange situation I am in, I am getting a my phone bill paid by my company and I have a data plan so I wanted to know if I can really make good use of it..
Thanks once again...
Hmmm. If the SIM from the Windows phone does not work for you in the Android phone, then there must be more to provisioning of "Data" than the SIM alone -- but moving the SIM should work fine for voice, sms, and mms (which don't use "data" services).
As I suggested, I might have been wrong.
the difference in data plans is nothing more than a marketing scheme. all you have to do is put the sim card from the HD2 into the mt4g and enjoy it, there's nothing else to it. That's the nice thing about using sim cards, no need to call the carrier to activate different phones, just pop your working sim into any phone(as long as it's unlocked or from the same carrier).
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the difference in data plans is nothing more than a marketing scheme. all you have to do is put the sim card from the HD2 into the mt4g and enjoy it, there's nothing else to it. That's the nice thing about using sim cards, no need to call the carrier to activate different phones, just pop your working sim into any phone(as long as it's unlocked or from the same carrier).
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But anush.isaac has already reported that the SIM did not work in the Android phone. Hmmm.... he also said he is =going= to purchase. So I do not know what Android phone he tested the SIM in. If it was another carrier's locked phone, then that would be the reason for a failure.
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But anush.isaac has already reported that the SIM did not work in the Android phone. Hmmm.... he also said he is =going= to purchase. So I do not know what Android phone he tested the SIM in. If it was another carrier's locked phone, then that would be the reason for a failure.
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actually, I can report, having come from a blackberry with a blackberry data plan, that it DID take a call to t-mobile to get switched to an android data plan before my internet would fully work on my new (then) g2. Currently loving the mt4g, though. and t-mobile never charged me any extra for the switch, it was just a matter of making things right in their system to get it working.
jmwils3 said:
actually, I can report, having come from a blackberry with a blackberry data plan, that it DID take a call to t-mobile to get switched to an android data plan before my internet would fully work on my new (then) g2.
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Thats because blackberries have a different internet plan that uses blackberry's own servers as part of the APN. If he's coming from any other phone, his current internet plan should work
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Thats because blackberries have a different internet plan that uses blackberry's own servers as part of the APN. If he's coming from any other phone, his current internet plan should work
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Ok, sorry for confusing things, then. My bad.
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erickdj said:
the difference in data plans is nothing more than a marketing scheme. all you have to do is put the sim card from the HD2 into the mt4g and enjoy it, there's nothing else to it. That's the nice thing about using sim cards, no need to call the carrier to activate different phones, just pop your working sim into any phone(as long as it's unlocked or from the same carrier).
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jmwils3 said:
actually, I can report, having come from a blackberry with a blackberry data plan, that it DID take a call to t-mobile to get switched to an android data plan before my internet would fully work on my new (then) g2. Currently loving the mt4g, though. and t-mobile never charged me any extra for the switch, it was just a matter of making things right in their system to get it working.
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Hi all,
Thank you very much for the much needed insight... I first apologize for confusing many... Let me tell you the updates..
* I have a data plan called T-mobile Smartphone Unlimited+ 400 free msgs
* I called a T-mobile rep and asked him if I can go to the Android plan, but as I explained earlier I don't have the permissions/authority to change plans as its under my company name and he said he will need to talk to my company's internal phone services (which I don't want to happen..)
* The T-mobile rep also told my plan will work only on Windows based Smart phones that T-mobile offers..
* Currently my data(Internet/Browsing) works with my HD2 running on Android (maybe because it still sees it as a Windows device).
* The phone I tested my SIM was the Vibrant, and the Vibrant's data did not work with my SIM.
My question now, I just Observed, mt APN says TelKila, and I do not know if this has something to do with accessing the network, with my HD2 both APNs TelKila and epc.tmobile.com work.. Let me know your thoughts on this one...
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Hi all,
Thank you very much for the much needed insight... I first apologize for confusing many... Let me tell you the updates..
* I have a data plan called T-mobile Smartphone Unlimited+ 400 free msgs
* I called a T-mobile rep and asked him if I can go to the Android plan, but as I explained earlier I don't have the permissions/authority to change plans as its under my company name and he said he will need to talk to my company's internal phone services (which I don't want to happen..)
* The T-mobile rep also told my plan will work only on Windows based Smart phones that T-mobile offers..
* Currently my data(Internet/Browsing) works with my HD2 running on Android (maybe because it still sees it as a Windows device).
* The phone I tested my SIM was the Vibrant, and the Vibrant's data did not work with my SIM.
My question now, I just Observed, mt APN says TelKila, and I do not know if this has something to do with accessing the network, with my HD2 both APNs TelKila and epc.tmobile.com work.. Let me know your thoughts on this one...
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There shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't work. Was that vibrant you tried also a t-mobile phone or was it from a different carrier? Why not go to a t-mobile store and try your sim card on one of their demo mt4g's? That's about the only way to know for sure. I used the same sim card I had on my G1 for two years on my mt4g as soon as I took it out of the box and it worked fine.
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There shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't work. Was that vibrant you tried also a t-mobile phone or was it from a different carrier? Why not go to a t-mobile store and try your sim card on one of their demo mt4g's? That's about the only way to know for sure. I used the same sim card I had on my G1 for two years on my mt4g as soon as I took it out of the box and it worked fine.
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Yes the Vibrant is for T-mobile only.. When I called T-mobile they said that my current data plan only works for Windows based devices and if i want to use an Android Device I will have to change my data plan to an Android data plan that they have. Somehow T-mobile are able to find out what device I am using and they are able to filter my data service. Since I cannot change my current data plan I am stuck to using a Windows device!! BUMMER!!
If there is any workaround I will be more than happy to do it, so I can make data working on my Android phone...
I'm a T-Mobile employee (RSA), and I can confirm that the type of data plan (known as the SOC) matters. They're actually working to change that (the new "4G" SOCs work for everything except blackberry). What this also means is that if you were on a legacy/promo SOC and you change platforms, you may lose that promo/legacy rate (a good chat with customer service might help, but all the guys in the store can do is call customer service for you). I don't really know any more details as to how it works on the back end, but that's the end result.
Hi,
I entered correct APN (t-mobile croatia) and when trying to view some web page, phone redirects to tmobile error page where it says that I have wrong APN settings. I checked with their customer service and settings are all correct.
After couple(!!!) of toggling mobile data (in settings) starts working properly, but after some time (after phone restart), everything returns back to errors
Sometimes, instead of tmobile error page, i get internet explorer's wrong dns error message.
Tmobile customer service said they can't help me because phone was not bought in tmobile (but its unlocked).
Any ideas?
Is there some code for diagnostics where I could see detailed mobile data settings? I saw similar codes for HTC devices, but none for Omnia...
EDIT:
phone was bought at other provider (VIP) but it was not locked. Still, phone has some provider specific stuff (bookmarks). Is it maybe possible that it also has some provider stuff that enforces its original APN?
Thanks in advance!
The Samsung Network settings app should sort your problem....Marketplace, Samsung Zone or serch the forum for an XAP version.
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Thanks, this helped me get MMS working on a T-Mobile branded Omnia 7 in Sweden with Telia.