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Pay As You Go XDA 2 ?

i am recently deciding whether to part with my cash and buy a xda 2. First of all are they worth it? Also would i be able to use a pay as you go sim card from a samsung v200? which does have gprs as it has o2 active i was just wondering as i do not really want to go to a pay monthly plan
thnaks in advance

How much you paying for it? It will work with the sim you have as long as its an O2 phone, if not you can unlock it for free.

it will probably be £270 unlocked and yes i have a o2 sim card

You won't be able to take advantage of the full internet GPRS, I had no end of trouble trying to connect to MSN and websites outside of 02 active, even after numerous phone calls to 02, they never got this sorted out.
As far as I know, on a pay as you go simcard, you cannot benefit from full internet access with o2.

ye but is'nt there a way of changing the setting or something i heard you can do that to make it go on the internet

well can you plzz tell me so i can decide whether to get one

I have a PAYG vodafone in my xda2. Ive only just got the phone and still havent worked out how to get internet access on it. I downloaded vodafone's 'connect me' software and that buggered my actviesync connection so i had to uninstall it....

I would like to say that yes this is very possible.
I had my old XDA I and XDA II on pay and go with O2 I had full internet and full GPRS though it took alot of time to get the settings but I managed it. the only annoying this is when you send a text it tells you your credit about 5 times. I have now got the XDA IIi and the sim also works with this.
conclusion is that yes it can be done and its not hard either. just change the ISP and work connection

cheers can to share the setting for the xda 2 if you know them as if i get one i might need them trying to get my parents to pay half for my birthday present lol

I paid USD $600 for O2 XDA II 2 months ago.
But it's worth.
I'm using it in programming Pocketpc application, capture Discovery from my PC then copy it to my SD 512 MB and view in PocketPC when go to sleep, listen MP3s, use softwares...
It's a nice XDA man ! :wink:

ReaperX said:
ye but is'nt there a way of changing the setting or something i heard you can do that to make it go on the internet
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There used to be a way, by changing the Proxy settings, but this does not work for newer SIM's.
O2 PAYG SIM's less than 18 months old (I think) can only access WAP via GPRS.
Cost: Expect to pay £200-£250 for a good condition XDA II on Ebay (just got £235 for mine, but some have gone for as little as £180)

well my sim card is from a samsung v200 which was brought new about november 2003 which has gprs on it, but now am not sure although i suppose if it does not work i should be able to pick on up easily from a store somewhere

Anyone have the Voda settings for GPRS/MMS? I'm on O2 and the reception around here is hit and miss, but Voda is always spot-on. I've a PAYG card that's data-enabled, I just need the settings for the XDAII.

anyone got 3G working?

all i get is
"The 3G network is not available.
do you want to make a voice call instead"
what am i doing wrong?
o2 in coperate mode with 1.06 radio
cheers
Steve
Wot happens to sour cream when it goes off?

did u buy you exec from O2 on a contract and use the suplied sim card with it ?

yes

sorry miss read question
i used my old sim card

thats why then, your old sim is only 2g equipped, dont ask, its O2 there bein total [email protected] about it, aparently to use O2 3G you have to purchase an O2 3G phone which will come with the new sim called a USIM, most other networks actually sell these new sims or allow the older type to use the 3G dunno why o2 has to b awkward.
if ya dont wana use this new O2 sim of yours u send it my way :lol:

phone was an upgrade, so have not got a new sim just my old one that i have had for 4 upgrades now

get onto o2 then n see what they say, you'll probly get screwed over n told to fek off but there bound to get enough complaints sooner or later to make them start selling the usim in the shops...

definately need a new USIM (with 3GP towards the end of the sim number).
Also check your predicted UMTS coverage online.

nah just phone o2 up and say that the sim card you have isn't compatible with the exec, and that they provided the upgrade, they should have checked that it was compatible, so essentially either they replace the sim free of charge, or you send the phone back.
tbh, it shouldn't even get that far, just by saying that you want to make 3g calls and that your sim card is not compatible with 3g should be enough for them to send you out a replacement. After all, they are always giving sim cards away for free, payg granted, but surely they will look after their contract customers better... at least they did for me a few years back when the Nokia 8210 was all the rage and my old sim card then refused to work with it, they sent out a replacement free of charge, arrived next day too.

Assuming you're in the UK o2 will provide you with a new 3G sim card free of charge - all that is involved is to port your account to the new card (occurs within 24 hrs after you arrange it) - your phone will be fully operational (minus 3G obviously) up until the transfer to the new sim card actually occurs.
The o2 upgrade procedure very clearly states that all customers upgrading to a 3G handset should be given a new sim card - that applies to o2's own retail stores and o2 online - if you got it from a third party company (P4U, Carphone, MobileShop etc) they may insist you charge.
There are actually pretty good system reasons why they do not just enable 3G on existing sim cards (which in theory is possible) - it's to your benefit to get the newer simcard as it has minor improvements to make them more future-proof.
Hope this clears things up

Assuming you're in the UK o2 will provide you with a new 3G sim card free of charge - all that is involved is to port your account to the new card (occurs within 24 hrs after you arrange it) - your phone will be fully operational (minus 3G obviously) up until the transfer to the new sim card actually occurs.
The o2 upgrade procedure very clearly states that all customers upgrading to a 3G handset should be given a new sim card - that applies to o2's own retail stores and o2 online - if you got it from a third party company (P4U, Carphone, MobileShop etc) they may insist you charge.
There are actually pretty good system reasons why they do not just enable 3G on existing sim cards (which in theory is possible) - it's to your benefit to get the newer simcard as it has minor improvements to make them more future-proof.
Hope this clears things up

Hi
I had to ring o2 to get a 3G Sim card and it was F.O.C, or you can go in to any o2 shop and pay £4 for a sim if you dont want to wait 3 - 4 days

@ nosdrahcir
never knew that, but I suppose it makes sense, as then it means that the customer will have not have to ring up if the old sim card is not compatible, but then again, I think they don't send new ones on upgrades to save money, and only send out replacements to those who actually need it.

in 3 years of owning an XDA this is the first time i have had to post a problem, i usually just read other posts to solve them.
Thanks to everyone who replied
got it sorted now
phoned o2 and they are sending me one out today
what happens to sour cream when it goes off??

Unlocking Wizard

Hello, I'm New To The Site But I Been Told You Guys Are Some Of The Most Talented People On The Net. Well Str8 To The Point, I Have The Wizard But I Hate Tmobile Internet Service So I Would Like To Know, If I Unlock It Will I Be Able To Use Cingulars Internet Service

Well if I get you right, you want to use the Internet service of another provider but using your regular SIM ....
that is not posible, since the internet conection of the provider works with their sim card and not with a specific phone sorry!!

No, I Will Get The Cingular Service But I Jus Want To Make SUre It Will Work Before I Make Any Moves

Oh in that case it's no prob.
look in the Forum for simunlocking ... the program is called lockwiz simply download it .. and youre ppc will work with every provider even overseas !!
Now that's simply using another SIM card ... you could have a little Trouble if you want to upgrade your CID and change the Tmobile software installed on youre phone though ... depending on your chip version.

Thanx Alot.

same number multiple sims

Hi all, this is gonna sound dumb, I imagine, and I just don't feel like calling cingular, but before I got my tytn I didn't know anything about cellular services etc.
I just wanna know if anyone can tell me if I can get two sim cards with the same number on both?, so I can like use my other phone on days that I wanna throw my tytn, without having to pop open covers and remove batteries.

I have been told by Cingular and other provider that this in not an option. You phone number is assoitated with a SIM ID so you can only have 1 SIM ID to a phone number.

What about having two sims, different numbers but with caller redirect to the second number if Hermes phone is not answered. This way callers only ever use one number but you can answer on either phone?
Mike

jcb_home said:
I have been told by Cingular and other provider that this in not an option. You phone number is assoitated with a SIM ID so you can only have 1 SIM ID to a phone number.
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Wrong, one can have one phone number on several SIMs, up to four in Europe. T-Mobile Germany, also present in the US market, i.e. offers 3 SIM cards with the same number as their "Multi SIM" product. You can operate 3 mobile phones, or any combination of phone-capable machines (PDA, PC etc.) at once, and take calls on any of the phones.
The two additional cards cost 9 euro per month in Germany, to give you a figure. Check with your service provider.

this is a service offered by most operators, in spain for example with Orange it's called "duo card" or with Vodafone it's called "twin card". Just ask Cingular about this service, they will probably ask you a monthly fee for the second sim (1-2 dollars more on each bill).

Thanks everyone, I just thought I would ask here before I called a rep and talked to them, incase I needed to mention..or not mention a few things, but after reading here, I called one local cingular store, and they said they didn't offer two sims on one number.
Mike, on that redirecting, I'm guessin I would have to add a line for the second sim? would kinda suck to pay another $10.00 a month just to avoid havin to pull a sim, but I might have to consider it.
Thanks again for the time and info everyone.

ChaoticDruid said:
Thanks everyone, I just thought I would ask here before I called a rep and talked to them, incase I needed to mention..or not mention a few things, but after reading here, I called one local cingular store, and they said they didn't offer that service.
Mike, on that redirecting, I'm guessin I would have to add a line for the second sim? would kinds suck to pay another $10.00 a month just to avoid havin to pull a sim, but I might have to consider it.
Thanks again for the time and info everyone.
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Well it might depend how often you would use it and what for. If jit's just for ocassional use without any frills what about pay as you go?

I think it would be cool if they offer this stateside. I would leave one, on a charger, in the car.
This way, the car has it's own phone. completes the whole integration thing.

Unlocked T Mobile HD2's Won't Let You Connect To The Internet

I read about this somewhere, but i can't find the thread.
I know that normal T Mobile firmware requires you to connect to the web through T Mobile Web n Talk.
Well my firmware is now flash to 1.66 WWE and my phone is now unlocked.
I bought a O2 sim and a Vodaphone sim with 3GB and 1 GB prepaid data credit.
Whenever i open a browser app or go to setting> wireless controls > data connections i get this error message:
Cannot Connect
Dialed:
Cannot connect for unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap settings and change them if needed, tap settings. If the problem continues, reset your mobile device according to your manufacture's documentation and try again.
Settings
Anyone have any idea what is going on?

Hi
I have done the same to my phone and it works fine on O2.
I assume you did a hard reset after the debranding operation?
Once my phone came back to life after all the software changes, I went to Start/Settings/All Settings/Connections/Connection Setup. Tapped the operator button, selected O2 from the drop down list and the phone connected and got all the necessary settings for GPRS an HSPDA connections. You will need to setup a WiFi connection first (I think). It might have downloaded the settings via SMS.
However, if you want to set your phone up manually, try this site first, filesaveas.com/gprs.html
(as a new user I am not allowed to post links yet, so you will have to add the url to the beginning of the link).
it is full of great advice for UK mobile Phone Operators WAP/GPRS/HSDPA/Email settings.
Cheers

Cubiceye said:
Hi
I have done the same to my phone and it works fine on O2.
I assume you did a hard reset after the debranding operation?
Once my phone came back to life after all the software changes, I went to Start/Settings/All Settings/Connections/Connection Setup. Tapped the operator button, selected O2 from the drop down list and the phone connected and got all the necessary settings for GPRS an HSPDA connections. You will need to setup a WiFi connection first (I think). It might have downloaded the settings via SMS.
However, if you want to set your phone up manually, try this site first, filesaveas.com/gprs.html
(as a new user I am not allowed to post links yet, so you will have to add the url to the beginning of the link).
it is full of great advice for UK mobile Phone Operators WAP/GPRS/HSDPA/Email settings.
Cheers
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I'm not sure if i did the hard reset or not.
I'm going to test it on another Sim, as there is a chance that i don't actualy have usable credit on these Sim's so i'm going to try on a 3 Sim which gets 150mb free with 10 pound top up and is definitely for use in 3G phones.
My sims might be for wireless modem only, not too sure.
If that fails then i'll start look into other options.
How much of a problem would not hard resetting be?
Hopefully i did and that's not the problem.
Good to hear others have had success with T-mobile unlocked.
What is the worse case scenario? Re flashing and hard resetting?
Thanks.

if you were still on your tmo sim when you flashed to 1.66, then you probably still have the tmo settings for mobile data set as default. A hard reset is a good idea, and let the phone pick up the settings from the sim automatically, or at least make sure all trace of tmo is gone.
look here
settings - menu - all settings - connections - connections - manage existing connections to see a list of currently configured mobile networks

I use both a 3 SIM and a t-mobile and the HD2 will pick up their use, configure the settings and store them both at the same time and all automatically.
You shouldn't have the problem that you are experiencing.And its nothing to do with setting a WiFi connection.
Who unlocked the phone for you?

randommann said:
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I'm not sure if i did the hard reset or not.
I'm going to test it on another Sim, as there is a chance that i don't actualy have usable credit on these Sim's so i'm going to try on a 3 Sim which gets 150mb free with 10 pound top up and is definitely for use in 3G phones.
My sims might be for wireless modem only, not too sure.
If that fails then i'll start look into other options.
How much of a problem would not hard resetting be?
Hopefully i did and that's not the problem.
Good to hear others have had success with T-mobile unlocked.
What is the worse case scenario? Re flashing and hard resetting?
Thanks.
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I haven't seen a phone SIM with prepaid data credits. If your phone is set for the right operaror, my guess is that you can't use this data allowance through your phone. You might try the router feature or connect a laptop to use the Web via your phone. If you're in the UK you might try T-Mobile and see if they still offer the PAYG SIM I have. 'Unlimited' data and texts are included in the month after you top up with £10. If you top up in April, data and UK SMSs would be free in May. Top up in May and browse and text for free in June. The £10 top up remains for calls. The offers change but this one suits me.
I use my laptop to connect to the Internet via my HD2 router. T-Mobile say this is against their rules. If they can tell the difference between phone and laptop use, perhaps you can use your data this way and so my earlier comment. They haven't said anything to me yet so I doubt it. I think you'd need to install the router; it's been removed by most operators.

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I haven't seen a phone SIM with prepaid data credits. If your phone is set for the right operaror, my guess is that you can't use this data allowance through your phone. You might try the router feature or connect a laptop to use the Web via your phone. If you're in the UK you might try T-Mobile and see if they still offer the PAYG SIM I have. 'Unlimited' data and texts are included in the month after you top up with £10. If you top up in April, data and UK SMSs would be free in May. Top up in May and browse and text for free in June. The £10 top up remains for calls. The offers change but this one suits me.
I use my laptop to connect to the Internet via my HD2 router. T-Mobile say this is against their rules. If they can tell the difference between phone and laptop use, perhaps you can use your data this way and so my earlier comment. They haven't said anything to me yet so I doubt it. I think you'd need to install the router; it's been removed by most operators.
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Like I said I have the same SIM as the OP and of course it works in the phone. Its just a SIM with credit on it and I also use it in a mobile broadband USB modem through a 3 WiFi router without any problem.
Some of the prepaid 3 payg boxed deals are preloaded with bundles of data access thats what the OP must have, but there shouldn't be any problem with them connecting in a phone.

pa49 said:
Like I said I have the same SIM as the OP and of course it works in the phone. Its just a SIM with credit on it and I also use it in a mobile broadband USB modem through a 3 WiFi router without any problem.
Some of the prepaid 3 payg boxed deals are preloaded with bundles of data access thats what the OP must have, but there shouldn't be any problem with them connecting in a phone.
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Well the O2 and T-Mobile sims that i suspected were modem only i used did not work, but the 3 payg sim i am now using is working perfectly.
3 offer 150mb free with every 10 pound credit topup.
The sims i got were not payg for phone use but modem use i believe.
In anycase it works now.
Where might i find any payg sims with preloaded data for mobile phone use?
Thanks.

randommann said:
Well the O2 and T-Mobile sims that i suspected were modem only i used did not work, but the 3 payg sim i am now using is working perfectly.
3 offer 150mb free with every 10 pound credit topup.
The sims i got were not payg for phone use but modem use i believe.
In anycase it works now.
Where might i find any payg sims with preloaded data for mobile phone use?
Thanks.
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I have a T-mobile PAYG SIM in my HD2. When I top up with £10, I get 'unlimited' data and UK text messages in the following month. The definition of unlimited varies but I've used over 1Gb without T-mobile becoming upset. It's not pre-loaded data but amounts to the same thing. You might need to check that the offer is still valid.