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[Q] Root and KNOX

Hello,
I updated my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 with KIES to XXUDMJ7 and right after that I rooted it before activating KNOX on my phone.
After that I wanted to start using KNOX so I clicked the app icon in order to activate it and filled the password to start, but then I got an alert meesage saying that my phone has been changed so KNOX can not be used.
I do want to use KNOX because it seems a nice to have feature to protect my sensetive data.
Can anyone PLEASE help me what can I do in order to enjoy a rooted device and KNOX together ?

Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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cant be undone ?
Killberty said:
Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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Can it be undone if I will go factory reset or something ?

frliran said:
Can it be undone if I will go factory reset or something ?
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No. Sorry

Killberty said:
Looks like u tripped the knox counter by rooting
Cant be undone
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Not what was asked... Knox is a program that separates Android into 2 sections, the insecure one that we use rooted and a secure version that stops all apps from doing ANYTHIG that could give out our data. Photo's taken while using the Knox security feature wil only be available in the Knox section.
No, you can't use Knox after rooting as you have now opened up the system to questionable apps unapproved by Samsung...
There is no way I have seen to spoof the system to allow use of Knox security app and have a rooted phone....

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geek78 said:
No. Sorry
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Does it mean that if I had activated KNOX before rooting, my phone would now been destroied ?
Can you please tell me if there is a way to enjoy root and KNOX together on another phone ?

frliran said:
Does it mean that if I had activated KNOX before rooting, my phone would now been destroied ?
Can you please tell me if there is a way to enjoy root and KNOX together on another phone ?
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1) No, Knox stop working, that's all
2) It seems that no with the last firmware ... On our Note 3 with the old bootloader you can root with "Root de la vega" and enjoy Knox... With some S4 that's the same.

geek78 said:
1) No, Knox stop working, that's all
2) It seems that no with the last firmware ... On our Note 3 with the old bootloader you can root with "Root de la vega" and enjoy Knox... With some S4 that's the same.
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My previous firmware was XXUDMJ4 and I had problems with the S-pen, so I updated it to XXUDMJ7.
Can you please tell me what is this update ?
The only reason I rooted my phone is to use "Tasker" and "Greenify" apps.

don't know the change log for the MJ7 update... But i know that with MJ7 (and also MJ5) you have the new bootloader ...

Thank you all
geek78 said:
don't know the change log for the MJ7 update... But i know that with MJ7 (and also MJ5) you have the new bootloader ...
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Thank you all for your help (-:
I'm a bit sad that I can't use KNOX but I don't know what is better to have KNOX or Root...

[Root] Knox stays (0x0) with Kingo android root

I was looking for a safe root so that my knox counter remained at 0x0
First flased the stock firmware with odin XXUEMK4 from SamMobile
and then with kingo root rooted my Note 2
and it works my counter remained 0x0
I used this youtube movie as an example, if I did everything right, and everything went well with my
Link to Kingo android root
This won't reset KNOX if you already void KNOX warranty

NEED HELP
Brother how i root my note2 my warranty is void bcuz i tried to root and knox block the superuser so i flashed my device again with official 4.3
So will u help me to root
NOTE 2 (N7100)
4.3
Build No. MK4
thanks

Gagandeep106 said:
Brother how i root my note2 my warranty is void bcuz i tried to root and knox block the superuser so i flashed my device again with official 4.3
So will u help me to root
NOTE 2 (N7100)
4.3
Build No. MK4
thanks
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1- Download and install Samsung Kies or Samsung Mobile driver
2- Download "kingo"
3- On your device go to Settings/More/About device/
4- Tap 5 times on "build number" to enable "Developer option"
5- Enable "USB Debug Mode" from developer options
6- Connect your device to PC by USB cable and wait until "kingo" display the model of your device
7- Click the green Button and wait few seconds
8- After it reboot, you can unplug USB cable

Is there really already a Knox-workaround way to root the new 4.3 firmwares?
HAHAHA! That's awesome!

if this is true why nobody care about this method ? hurmmmm

sora9009 said:
if this is true why nobody care about this method ? hurmmmm
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how do you know nobody care this topic has been visited already 367 times
and if you follow the links you can read that others done this successfully
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okay..my mistake..
so somebody do care ~

If real yeah eclverbody cares. But this method and thread are close for inventigation by xda admins. Soo nobody cares
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Users writing that
" VROOT was accessing chinese servers"
after root be careful with this.
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oh yeah getting past certain xda 'gates' may be quite a challenge.....

Kingo Works Confirmed!!!
Just rooted my phone using Kingo
Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7100
Build XXUEMK4 (India)
Knox Bootloader
WITHOUT tripping the Knox Counter!!!
Though Device status shows "Custom"
Can be taken care of by Using Xpose Framework & Wanam
Thanks.
Major.

Does this apply to GT-N7105 Galaxy Note 2 LTE?
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majorraj2003 said:
Just rooted my phone using Kingo
Can be taken care of by Using Xpose Framework & Wanam
Thanks.
Major.
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to use xpose or wanam you must have deodexed rom

cosmyndemeter said:
to use xpose or wanam you must have deodexed rom
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Nope. Has nothing to do with odex/deodex.
BTW. If this method works, it's the first workaround without tripping knox.
No more using older bootloaders I guess. Nice find!

majorraj2003 said:
Just rooted my phone using Kingo
Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7100
Build XXUEMK4 (India)
Knox Bootloader
WITHOUT tripping the Knox Counter!!!
Though Device status shows "Custom"
Can be taken care of by Using Xpose Framework & Wanam
Thanks.
Major.
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Ok so please check your phone through Odin to see if really your counter stays 0x0 an show us a screenshot.
This will be the definitive confirmation.

Kingo works 100%
Have been using this rooted phone for more than a few days without any problems.
Had downloaded the OTA though.
Had not flashed MK4 firmware via Odin but it should not make a difference.
Have not tried the wanam & xpose process ... will try it today and give u all an update.
I am purely on a stock rom (odexed)
Just wanted to root the device without any custom notifications or tripping any counters
I guess this Kingo method serves the purpose...so far until something better turns up.
This is purely for those who are on STOCK Rom & want to root their Phones and are afraid of tripping their Knox Counter etc.
Follow this post for further instructions on rooting via Kingo & Wanam & Xpose (for making Device Status from Custom/Modified to Official)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509244
Major.
PS. Device status showing Custom/Modified will not allow you to update your phone via OTA.
If you want to Make it official as I mentioned u can use Wanam & Xpose
OR
Flash the original Stock ROM via ODIN (You will lose the ROOT though)

PROOF!!!
note2nooby said:
Ok so please check your phone through Odin to see if really your counter stays 0x0 an show us a screenshot.
This will be the definitive confirmation.
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See the attached files.

looks correctly , thanks for posting it.

Correct me if I'm wrong but since we have root on a non modified Knox status phone, we can pull the bootloader and system info, then try to break the fuse and compare it to the untouched status one? @Chainfire

victorator said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but since we have root on a non modified Knox status phone, we can pull the bootloader and system info, then try to break the fuse and compare it to the untouched status one? @Chainfire
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Could be possible...
As after rooting by this method I personally feel this Knox thing is more kind of software related rather than Hardware.
If Kingo can bypass this and root so can our senior Dev Team too can.
Although, I don't understand much of this mambo-jumbo in programming..am always ready to help.
Major
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[email protected] said:
Does this apply to GT-N7105 Galaxy Note 2 LTE?
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Visit Kingo for all supported phones & to download the software.

root on kitkat knox

Hello, everyone,
my note 3 runs android 4.4.2, has 0x0 (since that it has not yet been rooted) and I'd like to keep it that way.
So, my question is: is there a rooting method that will not trip my knox?
Thanks in advance for help.
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n0t3 said:
Hello, everyone,
my note 3 runs android 4.4.2, has 0x0 (since that it has not yet been rooted) and I'd like to keep it that way.
So, my question is: is there a rooting method that will not trip my knox?
Thanks in advance for help.
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There is not a way to root it without tripping KNOX, it's possible only for Jelly Bean

And downgrading is not possible either, so I'm kinda stuck for now, huh...
Well, anyway, thanks for the quick reply!
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I'm on KitKat too... I don't care about tripping KNOX, is there a guide to root the stock KitKat ROM?

Lieu10ant said:
I'm on KitKat too... I don't care about tripping KNOX, is there a guide to root the stock KitKat ROM?
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Probably atleast 10 guides. It will take less than 5 minutes to root.
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Lieu10ant said:
I'm on KitKat too... I don't care about tripping KNOX, is there a guide to root the stock KitKat ROM?
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CFautoroot.
3 mins to read, 1 min to download, less than 1 min to flash via odin.
Sent from N7105, DN3 with AGNi kernel.

I was hesitating to root or not to root, but I don't like Android without root, so I have rooted it with CFautoroot and we are both happy with tripped KNOX so I suggest to root

Hi
I used CF auto root. It works fine ..
Now, I´ve got the following status:
current binary: custom
system status: custom
know warranty void: 0x1
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I dont care about the the knox status, but I want to change the custom status to update my phone with Samsung updates. I downloaded TriangleAway v3.26 but I cant choose the option (see attachment). As I understand I can use the App to block the status but it doesnt work. And I have no idea what "System executable needed to implement workaround not found" means. Where can I find the workaround and where shall I store it on my device ?
The second message I dont understand too. I dont find another version in the play store... I think its the same version like in the board?
Maybe someone could help me

fL!p said:
Hi
I used CF auto root. It works fine ..
Now, I´ve got the following status:
I dont care about the the knox status, but I want to change the custom status to update my phone with Samsung updates. I downloaded TriangleAway v3.26 but I cant choose the option (see attachment). As I understand I can use the App to block the status but it doesnt work. And I have no idea what "System executable needed to implement workaround not found" means. Where can I find the workaround and where shall I store it on my device ?
The second message I dont understand too. I dont find another version in the play store... I think its the same version like in the board?
Maybe someone could help me
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Yeah, but you need to uninstall the version you have and pay for the google play version..... It is a paid app on google play store...

ultramag69 said:
Yeah, but you need to uninstall the version you have and pay for the google play version..... It is a paid app on google play store...
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And after that I can reset the modified status and install the offered Samsung updates?
And what about: "System executable needed to implement workaround not found"

fL!p said:
And after that I can reset the modified status and install the offered Samsung updates?
And what about: "System executable needed to implement workaround not found"
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You can also install xposed framework and use the cosmetic system normal mod. This will make it look "Official" in settings...
I don't know if this will allow OTA, most people just use ODIN to flash what they want - but you most definitely will loose root doing an OTA.

fL!p said:
And after that I can reset the modified status and install the offered Samsung updates?
And what about: "System executable needed to implement workaround not found"
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If the device is rooted. I would never suggest OTA updates. Odin is the way to go.
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[Q] can my n9005 root while knox is 0x1 ??

Hi everybody,
I have just bough a n9005. And my bad is not check the bootloader. So now my device is lock by knox (see image)
My question is can i root my note? If i can, please advice me best method to root my new wife ^_^
Thanks very much,
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Hi Ninomaxx,
The Knox 0x1 that you see doesn't lock or block you from doing anything. It's only there to tell the carrier/manufacturer that you have modified your software, thus losing your warranty. Other than that, it doesn't do anything else. To root your device, I suggest you search the forums, you'll find a guide, I'm sure.
EDIT : I found one post for you (but you can find other posts too) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
EDIT2 : And another one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540853

One more question, can I update OTA after I root my device. And any change in my bootloader? Such as change from "Official" to "Custom" ????
Thanks,
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Ninomaxx said:
One more question, can I update OTA after I root my device. And any change in my bootloader? Such as change from "Official" to "Custom" ????
Thanks,
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Bootloader is "upgraded" when you flash stock 4.4 over 4.3.

And your warranty doesnt necessarily get voided because, if youre in the EU, statutory law dictates that service centres have to prove that the malfunction was directly caused by us changing or modifying system software. This is statutory law in the EU only. See here https://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html
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can I update OTA after root my phone? ^_^. Because I want my phone up-to-date with Samsung server and I also want to root my phone.
any advice plzz

Ninomaxx said:
can I update OTA after root my phone? ^_^. Because I want my phone up-to-date with Samsung server and I also want to root my phone.
any advice plzz
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If the rom youre on supports OTA then yes. official samsung updates wont work as they detect the system status.
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speedyjay said:
If the rom youre on supports OTA then yes. official samsung updates wont work as they detect the system status.
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That's my considering. My System Status = Official. I am worrying about after i root my device, the system status change to "Custom" ==> my device cannot update OTA anymore.
So The "System status" change to Custom after I root my device????? :good:

Ninomaxx said:
That's my considering. My System Status = Official. I am worrying about after i root my device, the system status change to "Custom" ==> my device cannot update OTA anymore.
So The "System status" change to Custom after I root my device????? :good:
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Correct. Then you wont receive official samsung updates. However, if you switch roms then devs will update their base as and when a new base becomes available. So in heinsight you're not really missing out on anything because you're getting the update plus more so I guess in this case (if you root) you get more for your money
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Ninomaxx said:
That's my considering. My System Status = Official. I am worrying about after i root my device, the system status change to "Custom" ==> my device cannot update OTA anymore.
So The "System status" change to Custom after I root my device????? :good:
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Try this :
1. Odin back to original stock (if you're already on stock, ignore this step)
2. Odin to root your device (TowelRoot or Root de la Vega)
3. Install Xposed Framework + Wanam Xposed, then in "Security hack" choose "Fake system status" (this will change your OS to "Official")
4. Reboot twice, Enable SuperSu Pro, check the Survival Mode option
5. Install the OTA update.
6. Disable Survival Mode in SuperSu Pro.
This should get you OTA updates AND root. Enjoy
Let me know how it went.

Knox counter 0x1 :(

Hello everyone,
I have just one month old galaxy grand prime SM G530H.
i have not rooted my device, and recently installed philz touch recovery 6 on my device using odin but it flagged my knox counter to to 0x1.
That means my warranty is lost. can anyone help me?
I am frequently getting this error, that unauthorized actions has been detected.
Please anyone consider this.. Thanks.

harshil33 said:
Hello everyone,
I have just one month old galaxy grand prime SM G530H. i have not rooted my device, and recently installed philz touch recovery 6 on my device using odin but it flagged my knox counter to to 0x1. That means my warranty is lost. can anyone help me?
I am frequently getting this error, that unauthorized actions has been taken.
Please anyone consider this.. Thanks.
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First of all, I believe, most of the people using XDA forums possess enough eyesight to view things in normal font. (and if not, there are numerous tools available to help them read or even listen to what is written). So you don't need to make your writing so big and bold that looks harsh. If you want to emphasize, you can use emoticons/smilies (that is what they are meant for). I don't want to be rude but to keep this platform clean and nice is OUR responsibility. Hope you don't mind.
As for as your problem, I think you have to flash back the stock recovery and (even the stock rom if the problem persists). Do some more research before taking any step or wait for solutions from experts. I believe guys will see your post soon
Best of luck :good:

Ohhhh hmm i understood. Waiting for reply. Thank you
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Rooting or Installing Custom Recovery = Knox 0x1. There's nothing you can do about it. You cannot change it back to 0x0. It is permanent. No more warranty.
For the error you need to disable knox. Read here on how to disable knox.
http://androidcentral.us/2014/01/how-to-disable-uninstall-knox-on-your-samsung-galaxy-devices/

Thanks for valueable reply. i tried that non rooted method. But the problem still persists.
So now i lost my warranty.... then should i root my device or not. I think it doesnt matter... right ?
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harshil33 said:
Thanks for valueable reply. i tried that non rooted method. But the problem still persists.
So now i lost my warranty.... then should i root my device or not. I think it doesnt matter... right ?
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Root your device it doesn't matter anymore you already tripped knox.

vancer32 said:
Root your device it doesn't matter anymore you already tripped knox.
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Any working method please....
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harshil33 said:
Any working method please....
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you already flashed philz recovery? Just flash the latest SuperSU thru recovery
CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu

vancer32 said:
you already flashed philz recovery? Just flash the latest SuperSU thru recovery
CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu
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Thank you very much.

harshil33 said:
Any working method please....
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Kingroot is the flawless and perfectly working method. At least it did the job for me
View this Post for link
or this thread for full details.
Best of luck. :good:

So u rooted without tripping knox ?
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harshil33 said:
So u rooted without tripping knox ?
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Yes of course. I rooted without tripping the knox

virtualyasir said:
Yes of course. I rooted without tripping the knox
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Good bro... if there is any way to recover knox please let me know.
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harshil33 said:
Good bro... if there is any way to recover knox please let me know.
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As much as I know for now, the knox once tripped is impossible to recover. May be there is some hardware switch thing associated with it. Anyhow, I think it does not make much difference because knox can only be a problem if you ever want to reclaim your warranty or re-sale the device. In my case, I am 99% sure that the device is working perfect to my needs and I don't have to claim the warranty or resale it within the warranty period. So if you don't have to claim warranty and also you don't want to re-sale, tripped knox is nothing to worry about
best of luck :good: