Background.....not new to flashing and used to be a flashaholic but I am new to flashing Samsung.I never saw the need to root or rom my S4 because well, it's a good performer for me, unlike my previos HTCs which I flashed to hell and back.
I am on stock MK2....no custom recovery and never rooted. Took the new KitKat NAE update this morning and it failed in recovery and rebooted. Downloaded the NAE.zip from here after that to manually flash in recovery myself. Update failed again but was able to see why this time....failed signature verification... Phone did reboot successfully again and functioning well, but if this isn't fixed I'm gonna be stuck on Jellybean....
I believe a previous update may have been corrupted....may have been from MK2 or even MJA. Since one of those 2 updates "Help" (system app InteractiveTutorial.apk) force closes upon start-up every time and when opened. Even tried a factory reset with same results. I believe this to be the culprit.
My question is where do I go from here to be able to install stock KitKat? Can I reflash a full stock MK2 in Odin to cure the obvious corruption? If so, which version of Odin would you suggest? Any special instruction?
Any help is very much appreciated.
I really need to know if you can flash back to mk2 after taking the 4.4.2 update too because the update didn't flash the new modem on my phone and wifi isn't working so I wanna retry it lol.
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Wow. Really? 98 views and not a single reply (I would bet $20 that no less than 20 of you knew the answer to my question).... thanks guys for nothing, Yet another reason I no longer feel the need to mod my phone...XDA used to be a friendly helpful place but now it is just place of the gimme gimme and "tough luck, it's not my problem" crowd.
BTW, after spending about 3 hours trying to navigate XDA's notoriously horrible search feature, I did find my answer. Yes, 3 hours.....
Churchey, I hope you find your answer as well. From what I have read, it works fine for MK2 and MJA but haven't read anything pertaining to going back to MK2 from NAE
Edit: Turns out there are still some helpful friendly people around,
I'm not 100% sure of which file you need to flash, but I'm pretty sure that you're able to flash an Odin file. That would be what I'd try first
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troyboytn said:
Wow. Really? 98 views and not a single reply (I would bet $20 that no less than 20 of you knew the answer to my question).... thanks guys for nothing, Yet another reason I no longer feel the need to mod my phone...XDA used to be a friendly helpful place but now it is just place of the gimme gimme and "tough luck, it's not my problem" crowd.
BTW, after spending about 3 hours trying to navigate XDA's notoriously horrible search feature, I did find my answer. Yes, 3 hours.....
Churchey, I hope you find your answer as well. From what I have read, it works fine for MK2 and MJA but haven't read anything pertaining to going back to MK2 from NAE
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Views don't mean much. Did you ever think that maybe those 98 viewers of this thread didnt know or have an answer for you. Be patient to receive an answer.
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k2buckley said:
I'm not 100% sure of which file you need to flash, but I'm pretty sure that you're able to flash an Odin file. That would be what I'd try first
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Thanks k2, that did work. Flashing MK2 of top of MK2 in odin did clear the issue that was preventing signature verification to install the update to NAE.
troyboytn said:
Thanks k2, that did work. Flashing MK2 of top of MK2 in odin did clear the issue that was preventing signature verification to install the update to NAE.
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Good deal man. I'm glad you got it up and running properly again
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troyboytn said:
Thanks k2, that did work. Flashing MK2 of top of MK2 in odin did clear the issue that was preventing signature verification to install the update to NAE.
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Link to MK2 you used? Having the same issue
I'll link it to you when I get home from work in a couple of hours if someone hasn't already. Saved the link on my home pc. Should be in the dev section.....title has MK2
in it. Hope that helps.
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This one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601443
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Thanks guys
Related
Sorry if this has been answered, but I just picked up my sprint S4 a few hours ago and I'm reading through the threads as fast as I can.
Are there rooted/stock one-click .exe files available for the S4 like the ones we had on the E4GT? I really like how easy they were to use to restore my phone to a stock or rooted stock condition.
Thanks in advance
Foulwx said:
Sorry if this has been answered, but I just picked up my sprint S4 a few hours ago and I'm reading through the threads as fast as I can.
Are there rooted/stock one-click .exe files available for the S4 like the ones we had on the E4GT? I really like how easy they were to use to restore my phone to a stock or rooted stock condition.
Thanks in advance
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Sure are http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.php?dir=Files/Devices/Samsung Galaxy S4 (SPH-L720)/
I see he has MDC up, but I'm still looking for MDL.
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I don't there are any MDL one clicks...just a flashable zip
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I see he has MDC up, but I'm still looking for MDL.
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I think the MDL oneclicks haven't been created yet b/c people are still trying to figure out how to flash the MDL modem. AFAIK, the only way right now to get the MDL modem is through the official MDC to MDL OTA update.
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I think the MDL oneclicks haven't been created yet b/c people are still trying to figure out how to flash the MDL modem. AFAIK, the only way right now to get the MDL modem is through the official MDC to MDL OTA update.
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Thanks for the info. I've already updated the modem through OTA to MDL. I guess I will try Chainfire's method to root then, but I was trying to avoid the triangle. I've always liked how the one-clicks never gave a count when flashed. After rooting, do you use mobile ODIN to install a recovery kernel? Which one do you guys prefer?
Sorry about the noob questions, but I am a noob on this phone.
Love it so far. I have to get a case today until I get one from Amazon. The slippery little bugger has been on the floor three times already. Once after I fell asleep.
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Thanks for the info. I've already updated the modem through OTA to MDL. I guess I will try Chainfire's method to root then, but I was trying to avoid the triangle. I've always liked how the one-clicks never gave a count when flashed. After rooting, do you use mobile ODIN to install a recovery kernel? Which one do you guys prefer?
Sorry about the noob questions, but I am a noob on this phone.
Love it so far. I have to get a case today until I get one from Amazon. The slippery little bugger has been on the floor three times already. Once after I fell asleep.
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I used desktop Odin to flash a recovery. I started off with Team SXP's CWM recovery then went on to the OUDHS recovery. I like OUDHS b/c I don't have to press any physical buttons but swipe to do everything (although you can use buttons too, if you'd like).
Today I tried the TWRP v2.5.0.2 recovery and it's awesome~! It's touch screen enabled and it recognizes my 64GB exFat microSD card. I used Goomanager from the app store to install it.
After just playing around with odin.
I think i have found a fix.
I flashed http://downloads.fairview5.com/i337/I337UCUEMJ6_full_wipe.tar.md5.7z through odin and it went through for the first time.
Then i used the pit file called "SGS-I337_16GB.pit" idk where it is but it's on the forums
Note:This will upgrade your phone to 4.3 and there are no root methods for 4.3 as of right now.Plus there might be some problems with the playstore.(i haven't encounter any yet)
Also remember that you can go to bestbuy and ask them to flash your phone so you can stay on 4.2.2. This is for people who just want to fix it now instead of going to a store.
Credit to jball and rayburne for telling me to put the downsides and other opitions
Cool deal buddy
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Odischeese said:
After just playing around with odin.
I think i have found a fix.
I flashed http://downloads.fairview5.com/i337/I337UCUEMJ6_full_wipe.tar.md5.7z through odin and it went through for the first time!!!!!!
Then i used the pit file called "SGS-I337_16GB.pit" idk where it is but it's on the forums
And now i have recovery!
Not just recovery, but i have my phone back!!!!
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isn't that the leaked 4.3 fw?
xuanphucn said:
isn't that the leaked 4.3 fw?
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Yes and it works like a charm.
I still have no clue why it can flash with odin if you're on MF3, regardless i am happy with it as it is the only rom that you can flash (that i know of) if you're on MF3.
Just a word of caution to anybody who wants to try this, there is no root method for it and playstore is having some issues installing some apps.
Edit, here's the thread discussing mj6 and some of the issues people are having http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46860747
Playstore?
jd1639 said:
Just a word of caution to anybody who wants to try this, there is no root method for it and playstore is having some issues installing some apps.
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I am having no problems with the playstore as of right now.I'm downloading over 4gb of apps right now. I'll post back if there's any problems.:good:
After downloading 4GB of apps, there were no problems.
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Yes and it works like a charm.
I still have no clue why it can flash with odin if you're on MF3, regardless i am happy with it as it is the only rom that you can flash (that i know of) if you're on MF3.
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I'm MF3 as you know and I'm using Omega V12 4.2.2 and it's a rom .I use Safestrap with no problems
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I'm MF3 as you know and I'm using Omega V12 4.2.2 and it's a rom .I use Safestrap with no problems
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Yes but i was talking about flashing with odin though
Some people with the MF3 problem couldn't even get to their stock recovery like me:crying:
This is the only ROM i know of that you can flash with odin on MF3.
Even if you don't have a stock recovery you should have been able to use Safestrap. I don't have stock recovery
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Even if you don't have a stock recovery you should have been able to use Safestrap. I don't have stock recovery
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I was ****ed big time. I did install SS but like i told you yesterday, SS ****ed up the wiping and it looked like SS just deleted itself. The reason why i said that because SS never came up. My phone never could go past the bootlogo nor bring up the 2 SS options. If i had SS at the time then i would of never came to forums lol
Odischeese said:
After just playing around with odin.
I think i have found a fix.
I flashed http://downloads.fairview5.com/i337/I337UCUEMJ6_full_wipe.tar.md5.7z through odin and it went through for the first time!!!!!!
Then i used the pit file called "SGS-I337_16GB.pit" idk where it is but it's on the forums
And now i have recovery!
Not just recovery, but i have my phone back!!!!
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I was ****ed big time. I did install SS but like i told you yesterday, SS ****ed up the wiping and it looked like SS just deleted itself. The reason why i said that because SS never came up. My phone never could go past the bootlogo nor bring up the 2 SS options. If i had SS at the time then i would of never came to forums lol
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I'm glad you were able to fix your phone and share with other to help them out, but I feel this title is a little misleading.
Yes you are fixing a soft bricked MF3 phone but the fix is upgrading them to MJ6 4.3. I understand a fixed MJ6 phone is better than a broken MF3 phone but I think it should be mentioned in your instructions. Best Buy is an alternative to fixing your phone and remaining on 4.2.2. Maybe a fix is around the corner for MF3 soft bricks that won't apply to MJ6 devices (yes I agree high unlikely but it should be mentioned this is upgrading the user to 4.3).
Sorry to hear your troubles with Safestrap. I'm on MF3 using SS and not had a problem. I think I have installed most of the 4.2.2 ATT and International Roms without issue. With what you described above about SS, I can only guess that SS has a bug that you encountered that affected your stock slot or you mistakenly wiped or flashed something to your stock slot that hosed your MF3 stock slot. Either way glad you recovered and shared your fix.
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I'm glad you were able to fix your phone and share with other to help them out, but I feel this title is a little misleading.
Yes you are fixing a soft bricked MF3 phone but the fix is upgrading them to MJ3 4.3. I understand a fixed MJ3 phone is better than a broken MF3 phone but I think it should be mentioned in your instructions. BB is an alternative to fixing your phone and remaining on 4.2.2. Maybe a fix is around the corner for MF3 soft bricks that won't apply to MJ3 devices (yes I agree high unlikely but it should be mentioned this is upgrading the user to 4.3).
Sorry to hear your troubles with Safestrap. I'm on MF3 using SS and not had a problem. I think I have installed most of the 4.2.2 ATT and International Roms without issue. With what you described above about SS, I can only guess that SS has a bug that you encountered that affected your stock slot or you mistakenly wiped or flashed something to your stock slot that hosed your MF3 stock slot. Either way glad you recovered and shared your fix.
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Yeah I was just a little over exited finding a fix and quickly made a title.
I'll edit the instructions a little more...
Thanks for catching my mistakes :good:
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Yeah I was just a little over exited finding a fix and quickly made a title.
I'll edit the instructions a little more...
Thanks for catching my mistakes :good:
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Naw man, I'm not claiming you made any mistakes :good:
Just trying to help others who read the OP to fully understand the fix.
I'm just glad you found an alternative fix to Best Buy and shared it with others!
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Naw man, I'm not claiming you made any mistakes :good:
Just trying to help others who read the OP to fully understand the fix.
I'm just glad you found an alternative fix to Best Buy and shared it with others!
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Ahh ok
what do you think i should rename the title btw???
"Optional fix to a MF3 brick" point of no return
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Thanks man, you got me back up and running... I know it's not ideal but it works...
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"Optional fix to a MF3 brick" point of no return
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"Optional fix to a MF3 brick point of no return"
the entire quote???
Sure
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So i rooted and used safestrap to install my 4.2.2 rom a little while back when that was all that was available. Now i cant find out how people are moving away from this old 4.2.2 junk and moving to 4.3 or 4.4
I know safestrap i have only works with certain TouchWiz roms (found that out when i triend to use CM a while back) and that is a headache only having really the plain google rom available to use.
any help would be appreciated, its been annoying
Read the "pinned" threads in General and Q&A and make sure to read the threads about 4.3 and 4.2 in the same places (General and Q&A sections). The questions you asked have been asked and answered several times already Good luck
Unfortunately on MF3 you only have safestrap and that's it. No CWM recovery exists.
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Thread cleaned.
Lets keep it civil in here alright?
Thank you.
HiTideBlastoise said:
Unfortunately on MF3 you only have safestrap and that's it. No CWM recovery exists.
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THANKS!! wish that other person would of just said that! ive been looking and looking, and there is no possible way to get off MF3? odin and install a flash image from prior to MF3? anything? haha
i tried to install CWM like an idiot cause i couldnt find anything saying NO and it soft bricked my phone, got that all sorted out and now just back to the 4.2.2 google rom
just so plain and basic, its the same I had on my skyrocket for a year.. i bought the skyrocket the day it came out and got the s4 the day it came out too.... wanting 4.4 so bad lol
There is a q-fuse that is raised when updated to mf3 preventing a downgrade to happening.
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THANKS!! wish that other person would of just said that! ive been looking and looking, and there is no possible way to get off MF3? odin and install a flash image from prior to MF3? anything? haha
i tried to install CWM like an idiot cause i couldnt find anything saying NO and it soft bricked my phone, got that all sorted out and now just back to the 4.2.2 google rom
just so plain and basic, its the same I had on my skyrocket for a year.. i bought the skyrocket the day it came out and got the s4 the day it came out too.... wanting 4.4 so bad lol
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Read the second post of this sticky thread, it states if you try to install a custom recovery on MF3 you will hose your device.
Lucky we have the MF3 odin files now so we can recover from soft bricks (that post was created before the MF3 files were leaked).
Glad to hear you got it sorted out though.
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Read the second post of this sticky thread, it states if you try to install a custom recovery on MF3 you will hose your device.
Lucky we have the MF3 odin files now so we can recover from soft bricks (that post was created before the MF3 files were leaked).
Glad to hear you got it sorted out though.
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Does this mean we can now load an old version of the firmware from before mf3?
OK this section says noob questions welcome, so I'm hoping I can get some advice. I actually did pretty well on the OG evo but when I came to the S4 I rooted, flashed frees rom, and didn't look back. Well as much of a tribute that it is to the rom, I really fell behind. I'm on 4.2.2 MDL and I've missed several updates. Now there's MJA, MK2 and maybe one in-between I missed. So my question is how do I upgrade ? Can I simply upgrade to a custom rom? I think I read that I need to upgrade my recovery. Can I just download that recovery and flash it like a custom rom? Do I even want to go to MJA or MK2 because everyone complains about Knox. I read you can upgrade but keep your boot loader...the problem is that I feel like my phone is way far behind. Any suggestions? As far as from preferences I'm happy with touchwiz and it looking fairly stock so long as I have hotspots mod the rom will work for me. Hopefully I can get some advice from anyone. If you read this I appreciate your time and consideration. Thanks.
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My opinion is I haven't taken it and won't just for the fact I Dont like the idea of Sammy locking me down!! Lol and that I Dont care for tw but reality is almost all the custom tw ROMs are 4.3 now so you'll still have plenty to choose from if you make the leap! But IMHO 4.4 kit kat is where its at!
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Download the MK2 firmware and the latest Philz touch recovery from the dev section. This will allow you to flash 4.3 ROMs and get you up to date.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277480
This is another option working for me. You would have to flash mf9 firmware 1st.
First off thank you for the link to those instructions they were very easy to follow. Everything is updated to 4.3 and I'm on MJA baseband. I did mess up and forgot to flash the MF9 firmware first so when I booted up I had a system update notification. I simply held it down, went to app info and unchecked notifications. I'm assuming nothing should effect me since all my other stuff is correct. Thanks again for the assistance in this thread. Awesome getting the answers and guidance necessary.
My Sprint S4 received the 4.4 update OTA which moved it to version L720TVPUBNAF. I attempted to flash it back to the L720TVPUAMK5 (4.3) version using Odin and the .tar for the stock firmware for this version. Big mistake. Odin failed and now I get the 'Firmware Upgrade Encountered an Issue' upon boot. First I'm hoping there may be a .tar available for the NAF version and I can flash that with Odin through DL mode since DL mode is the only working mode. I have not used Kies so I do not have an image to fall back to. Any help from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
at least your not hard bricked..... find a .tar ver. of the naf rom...might be at samsung websight....then Odin it back... sorry i.dont have links at hand, im kinda busy., but they are there... i have not seen naf roms here on xda yet but i could be wrong... im sure it should be here
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I believe you want a nae ROM. There in the development section.
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My Sprint S4 received the 4.4 update OTA which moved it to version L720TVPUBNAF. I attempted to flash it back to the L720TVPUAMK5 (4.3) version using Odin and the .tar for the stock firmware for this version. Big mistake. Odin failed and now I get the 'Firmware Upgrade Encountered an Issue' upon boot. First I'm hoping there may be a .tar available for the NAF version and I can flash that with Odin through DL mode since DL mode is the only working mode. I have not used Kies so I do not have an image to fall back to. Any help from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
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Just saw you had this thread going too lol hey I know how it is having a bricked phone.
Like these guys said you can ( I guess) flash an NAF based ROM via Odin if you can find one. Or try that other method I linked you to before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50704719
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I don't see any NAF (tri band) based Roms myself. I don't know IFA NAE ROM would get you very far since it Is different.
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There is no full tar file for NAF and probably won't be for several weeks. You NEVER flash older tars with the S4 anymore. Once Samsung implemented the full knox bootloader it prevents you from going backwards. Your best bet if you want your phone to work is to take it to Sprint and tell them the update to Kit Kat failed and they should be able to flash your phone back to NAF, or they will replace it.
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There is no full tar file for NAF and probably won't be for several weeks. You NEVER flash older tars with the S4 anymore. Once Samsung implemented the full knox bootloader it prevents you from going backwards. Your best bet if you want your phone to work is to take it to Sprint and tell them the update to Kit Kat failed and they should be able to flash your phone back to NAF, or they will replace it.
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I see you were involved in that thread I linked him. That update zip would not help him since the phone is bricked right? I've never gone that route myself so that's why I'm asking. That'd be my take on it right now, I seem to have over looked that when I linked him that.
Also there was a thread on here for the regular l720 that included a couple files and the use of Odin to get people unbricked and then I think able to use an update zip. Have you seen that? Just throwing that out there that's all. That method is a tad more involved but did work for a few people to unbrick their NAE S4's after they tried downgrading to mk2.
Now since that method wasn't for the tri band s4, I think finding the needed files may be hard. Again I'm just tossing this out there to get your feedback.
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I see you were involved in that thread I linked him. That update zip would not help him since the phone is bricked right? I've never gone that route myself so that's why I'm asking. That'd be my take on it right now, I seem to have over looked that when I linked him that.
Also there was a thread on here for the regular l720 that included a couple files and the use of Odin to get people unbricked and then I think able to use an update zip. Have you seen that? Just throwing that out there that's all. That method is a tad more involved but did work for a few people to unbrick their NAE S4's after they tried downgrading to mk2.
Now since that method wasn't for the tri band s4, I think finding the needed files may be hard. Again I'm just tossing this out there to get your feedback.
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Thanks for everyone's responses and suggestions. I took the phone to Best Buy and they flashed NAF back on using the Samsung SMART firmware tool they have. As far as some of the other questions, I think a .tar of the NAF firmware would have worked using Odin because I could get into download mode. I don't think a zip would have worked because I could not get into any kind of interactive Recovery mode. Regular boot and attempting to boot to Recovery would take me to the same "Firmware Upgrade Encountered an Issue" screen.
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Thanks for everyone's responses and suggestions. I took the phone to Best Buy and they flashed NAF back on using the Samsung SMART firmware tool they have. As far as some of the other questions, I think a .tar of the NAF firmware would have worked using Odin because I could get into download mode. I don't think a zip would have worked because I could not get into any kind of interactive Recovery mode. Regular boot and attempting to boot to Recovery would take me to the same "Firmware Upgrade Encountered an Issue" screen.
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I just wanted to say thank you for posting the followup info after getting your issues squared away. All too often people ask questions and you never know if they got resolved. You also posted HOW your problem was fixed, which can help others in the same boat. Glad to have you here at XDA.
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I just wanted to say thank you for posting the followup info after getting your issues squared away. All too often people ask questions and you never know if they got resolved. You also posted HOW your problem was fixed, which can help others in the same boat. Glad to have you here at XDA.
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I'm facing the same ordeal oddly enough. Rooted with cf root, Flashed philz touch. Flashed slimkat and gapps, got everything all set up, went to change the DPI with textdroider, rebooted and the phone booted up however DPI didn't change. Tried a few more times with no success and installed resolution change / Density (without reading reviews) and bam! soft bricked. Spent over an hour looking for the NAF ROM and found it on sammobile. Waiting for DL and that has taken well over an hour. Can't believe this ROM is uploaded NO WHERE ELSE. I'll be posted back about results and also if i'm succesful I'm open to sharing this file here on xda so it doesn't take forever to DL!! If someone has a good solution for hosting, i'm all ears
EDIT: Flashing the NAF stock ROM from sammobile worked a treat. However, still kida burned about having to wait so long to reach a resoluton mainly due to horrendously slow DL