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Honeycomb won't be coming to the Adam anytime soon...

Google has decided not to release the Honeycomb source code for the foreseeable future.
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2011/tc20110324_269784.htm

I was just coming to post that. This blows.

Wow, that really pushes me toward looking for a tablet with Ubuntu instead. Looks like Honeycomb is a mess rushed for release much to soon. The more I look into Android the more closed it seems.

I think I'm going to go cry now. Does anyone know if NI already has access to Honeycomb or are we completely reamed now?

Hehe...there's a lot of very talented developer and hacker out there...when they got their hands on the xoom im pretty much sure adam with honeycomb.yey
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The article kept talking about putting Honeycomb on phones. I thought Honeycomb was made for tablets and not phones. I guessed I assumed that it was never intended to be put on a phone. Wikipedia talks about ice-cream sandwich (look up android operating system), which I haven't heard of until just now, being a combination of Honeycomb and Gingerbread. (Look at the references)

Everyone, its still available for the open handset alliance people. This includes notion ink. And notion ink already said they ported eden to honeycomb on their blog. There probably gonna launch the next pre orders with honeycomb. Delete this thread please
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craby1925 said:
Everyone, its still available for the open handset alliance people. This includes notion ink. And notion ink already said they ported eden to honeycomb on their blog. There probably gonna launch the next pre orders with honeycomb. Delete this thread please
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NI has had trouble getting the source actually. See the latest interview of Rohan at NIH.
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Either way, he is trying, and whither the hype of notion ink lately Google can't deny him source code. So give it one month and I bet hell have the source. Patience is a virtue that everyone wants to hate
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craby1925 said:
Either way, he is trying, and whither the hype of notion ink lately Google can't deny him source code. So give it one month and I bet hell have the source. Patience is a virtue that everyone wants to hate
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This is actually business as usual... only one company gets to work through development, with one device. So that was the Xoom, and Motorola. On the day the Xoom shipped, other OEMs got source access... I would presume it went to the Open Handset Alliance, but it's quite possible they have a more restricted group for the next phase.
There's a fair chance some things were rushed for the Xoom, and Google wants a chance to fix them. They never once promised anyone open development, only open source. So nothing goes out to source.android.com until it's in its final release form. And that's taken long enough in the past for folks to complain, even without the "heads up" or the presumably longer process, this being a major release, all-new hardware, and a new form factor.
I've been in the computer systems business since the early 80s, and nothing I heard from Google said to me "you don't get the source". Only, it's going to be a wait.
With that said, I would certainly hope that Notion Ink doesn't have to wait for source as long as folks like you and I.

craby1925 said:
Everyone, its still available for the open handset alliance people. This includes notion ink. And notion ink already said they ported eden to honeycomb on their blog. There probably gonna launch the next pre orders with honeycomb. Delete this thread please
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Since no one addressed this yet I will. If you read the post correctly you will see that they have ported the Eden apps to Honeycomb. Not that they ported Honeycomb. Big difference.
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For what it's worth, direct from the horses' mouth?....
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/12/nvi...vers-and-support-for-harmony-tegra-2-devices/
EDIT: With the latest revelations or clarifications, perhaps this was misinterpretation..
Read and comment on the latest HERE

Partial Honeycomb source
Hey guys. What does this mean for us? From what it sounds like its a decent piece of Honeycomb source. Maybe enough to work with. Anyone know what we can do with this? Lets see what can be done.
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/b732d8cd82695ce1?pli=1

Source is not the issue, the issue is Nvidia driver support, or lack of..
-CC
EDIT: The "lack of" may have changed for the possibility.. Let's Hope.
EDIT2: We can already see that devices based on the same Harmony platform are claiming, at least some advancement (upgrades) in the news.

clockcycle said:
Source is not the issue, the issue is Nvidia driver support, or lack of..
-CC
EDIT: The "lack of" may have changed for the possibility.. Let's Hope.
EDIT2: We can already see that devices based on the same Harmony platform are claiming, at least some advancement (upgrades) in the news.
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So what is it that were having to wait for? Do we have no way or modifying current drivers to work?
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Amon Darthir said:
So what is it that were having to wait for? Do we have no way or modifying current drivers to work?
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How can I put this the way I understand it...
NVIDIA makes some reference graphics card, ASUS works on this reference card tweaking it to their custom specs and release their own version of it.
ASUS tweaks the drivers given to them by NVIDIA that works with their reference card and makes/adds what ever is needed to make it work with their version of this reference card..
Let's say NVIDIA's drivers are made for Windows 98, so that's as far as this reference card will work with and there is only so much ASUS can do with that.
Then Windows ME, XP, Vista and 7 come out... But NVIDIA stops supporting or doesn't release any more drivers. So ASUS has nothing else they can make their card work on these new versions of Windows..
Now you have to think in broader terms, I am over simplifying it and this is not the only factors..
New hardware new advances being made every day, just don't make it cost effective and convincing enough for the consumer to keep buying that older card that was for Windows 98 for their Windows 7 machine, they need something better.
NVIDIA makes something better, other vendors work on that instead. ASUS not wanting to be left behind trying to make that older card work, comes out with newer versions of what NVIDIA is coming out with...
Let's say Xpertcolor was still working on the older card and can't afford to just dump it and work on a newer card because they aren't as big as ASUS has gotten... They are at the mercy of NVIDIA..
Hope that sorta makes some sense..
-CC

clockcycle said:
How can I put this the way I understand it...
NVIDIA makes some reference graphics card, ASUS works on this reference card tweaking it to their custom specs and release their own version of it.
ASUS tweaks the drivers given to them by NVIDIA that works with their reference card and makes/adds what ever is needed to make it work with their version of this reference card..
Let's say NVIDIA's drivers are made for Windows 98, so that's as far as this reference card will work with and there is only so much ASUS can do with that.
Then Windows ME, XP, Vista and 7 come out... But NVIDIA stops supporting or doesn't release any more drivers. So ASUS has nothing else they can make their card work on these new versions of Windows..
Now you have to think in broader terms, I am over simplifying it and this is not the only factors..
New hardware new advances being made every day, just don't make it cost effective and convincing enough for the consumer to keep buying that older card that was for Windows 98 for their Windows 7 machine, they need something better.
NVIDIA makes something better, other vendors work on that instead. ASUS not wanting to be left behind trying to make that older card work, comes out with newer versions of what NVIDIA is coming out with...
Let's say Xpertcolor was still working on the older card and can't afford to just dump it and work on a newer card because they aren't as big as ASUS has gotten... They are at the mercy of NVIDIA..
Hope that sorta makes some sense..
-CC
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I suppose so. Frustrating that there isn't really anything we can do about it.
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clockcycle said:
How can I put this the way I understand it...
NVIDIA makes some reference graphics card, ASUS works on this reference card tweaking it to their custom specs and release their own version of it.
ASUS tweaks the drivers given to them by NVIDIA that works with their reference card and makes/adds what ever is needed to make it work with their version of this reference card..
Let's say NVIDIA's drivers are made for Windows 98, so that's as far as this reference card will work with and there is only so much ASUS can do with that.
Then Windows ME, XP, Vista and 7 come out... But NVIDIA stops supporting or doesn't release any more drivers. So ASUS has nothing else they can make their card work on these new versions of Windows..
Now you have to think in broader terms, I am over simplifying it and this is not the only factors..
New hardware new advances being made every day, just don't make it cost effective and convincing enough for the consumer to keep buying that older card that was for Windows 98 for their Windows 7 machine, they need something better.
NVIDIA makes something better, other vendors work on that instead. ASUS not wanting to be left behind trying to make that older card work, comes out with newer versions of what NVIDIA is coming out with...
Let's say Xpertcolor was still working on the older card and can't afford to just dump it and work on a newer card because they aren't as big as ASUS has gotten... They are at the mercy of NVIDIA..
Hope that sorta makes some sense..
-CC
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Doesn't mean that Asus can't continue to use the older drivers if Nvidia doesn't come out with something new or if Asus doesn't want to move to another new reference design. It would be up to Asus to continue updates for tech that Nvidia has moved away from. This is usually true for tech that companies have just put out (on the market) even though it is considered old by tech standards.
The question that remains for us is will Notion Ink keep the comments they made about moving to newer OS versions. Only time will tell.

blazingwolf said:
Doesn't mean that Asus can't continue to use the older drivers if Nvidia doesn't come out with something new or if Asus doesn't want to move to another new reference design. It would be up to Asus to continue updates for tech that Nvidia has moved away from. This is usually true for tech that companies have just put out (on the market) even though it is considered old by tech standards.
The question that remains for us is will Notion Ink keep the comments they made about moving to newer OS versions. Only time will tell.
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Moar i.e.; There are new features in Windows 7 which NIVIDIA never made drivers for old card, so you don't have old drivers to use to make that new feature work...
There are advancements made taking advantage of faster, newer graphics, that ASUS can't update or work on unless NVIDIA updates and gives it to them..
So yeah ASUS could in theory keep working the old drivers and make that older card work on Windows 7, but can't take advantage of any of the new features, it's slow, slower than it was on Windows 98. All the games and programs made to take advantage of these new features in Windows 7, the old Windows 98 card just can't handle, so those new games and programs just won't work or if they do, really slow and not worth the hassle.. ASUS says screw that, Xpertcolor sighs...
Get it?
-CC

adam may not get Honeycomb?
If true it looks like the adam will not be getting Honeycomb. it does not meet the screen resolution requirement. This normally changes after it runs the internet but Honeycomb is being treated differently
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/...rements_confirmed_bad_news_for_htc_flyer.html

will we see wp 8.1 at build?

I feel like it would've been official by now if they we're going to show the blue update for windows Phone. Anyone seen any news on this?

mmian said:
I feel like it would've been official by now if they we're going to show the blue update for windows Phone. Anyone seen any news on this?
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Based on last year's event, I would say very little, if any, discussion or demonstration of the future of Windows Phone OS will be shown at BUILD. They might turn around and surprise us with a preview of the SDK changes for developers. Or show a short preview of some new features, but with the leaks we've seen thus far, I doubt there's even a chance that anything impressive is ready to be shown.

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Based on last year's event, I would say very little, if any, discussion or demonstration of the future of Windows Phone OS will be shown at BUILD. They might turn around and surprise us with a preview of the SDK changes for developers. Or show a short preview of some new features, but with the leaks we've seen thus far, I doubt there's even a chance that anything impressive is ready to be shown.
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Agreed, probably just some more tile sizes.

Here is what I saw today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qElsoa5Rhw)
Basically nothing to have to do with WP 8.1 just an over view of phone hardware
Maybe tomorrow they will tell us more? Who knows... I really hope it includes this (http://http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2281201-custom-sounds-for-sms-mms-email-notifications-e)

What's New in Windows Phone 8.1

This article describes key new features and improvements in Windows Phone 8.1.
"A must read" for all WP developers (but not a hackers of course )
There are lot of "tasty" features in WP 8.1; as for me, it sounds like a great platform improvement without having to upgrade hardware. Hope to get dev preview of WP 8.1 very soon

I've been looking all morning for this article...thanks.

Didn't the leaked SDK contain all this a few months ago?

Sunius1 said:
Didn't the leaked SDK contain all this a few months ago?
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No, some things were hidden.

Hi,
An post, talk already of Windows Phone 8.1, on XDA Portal.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...tion-center-windows-to-bring-back-start-menu/

anaheiim, this topic is a little bit different. Article I've posted shortly describes new APIs for developers; it's not a discussion about user experience
P.S. Joke:
- Did you heard: Cortana will marry Siri?
- Are you kidding? It's not possible!
- No, it's possible in 17 states...

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anaheiim, this topic is a little bit different. Article I've posted shortly describes new APIs for developers; it's not a discussion about user experience
P.S. Joke:
- Did you heard: Cortana will marry Siri?
- Are you kidding? It's not possible!
- No, it's possible in 17 states...
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You are right, I did not see your link to MS dev blog in your first post.
Dev Preview of 8.1, will be released, of microsoft source during the first half of April.
And WPCentral source, announce April 14.
And for those who did not know (but I think you're all aware), the WP8.1 SDK is officially available in Release Candidate.
http://dev.windowsphone.com/en-us/downloadsdk

Yikes! This Windows Phone 8.1 Update seems to be a whole new OS with a ton of new features and improvements in UI and API.
Still didn't get: do they at MSFT plan to make the Update freely available through Windows Update to exiting Windows Phone 8 customers?

Luxon said:
Yikes! This Windows Phone 8.1 Update seems to be a whole new OS with a ton of new features and improvements in UI and API.
Still didn't get: do they at MSFT plan to make the Update freely available through Windows Update to exiting Windows Phone 8 customers?
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Yes! All Windows Phones can get updated to 8.1. It depends on when (and sadly, if) your carrier releases it. However if you want to get past that, you can just join the dev preview and it'll be downloadable sometime this month. Sources have been saying either the 10th or the 14th. So lookout

desolateone1 said:
Yes! All Windows Phones can get updated to 8.1. It depends on when (and sadly, if) your carrier releases it. However if you want to get past that, you can just join the dev preview and it'll be downloadable sometime this month. Sources have been saying either the 10th or the 14th. So lookout
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I thought MSFT had complete control over which devices get upgraded?
I saw in build conference that they had upgraded even the lowly 520 to 8.1!
Cheers!

desolateone1 said:
Yes! All Windows Phones can get updated to 8.1. It depends on when (and sadly, if) your carrier releases it. However if you want to get past that, you can just join the dev preview and it'll be downloadable sometime this month. Sources have been saying either the 10th or the 14th. So lookout
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Joe posted in twitter, that they don't know exact date. It'll be first part of April.

-W_O_L_F- said:
Joe posted in twitter, that they don't know exact date. It'll be first part of April.
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and he didn't mention the year

ceesheim said:
and he didn't mention the year
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I really thought they said (at build) that 8.1 preview was supposed to be available for download today 4/8.

They do. What part of @desolate1's post suggested otherwise? Join the dev preview program and get the update straight from Microsoft (as soon as it releases) while the bits are fresh!
It's only if you want to get it through your OEM and/or carrier that you'll need to wait, and risk disappointment. Reading comprehension, yo!

Android M Discussion thread

A place for all of us Nexus 6 users to talk about Android M and the Developer Preview any bugs or anything we find. Download links are at the bottom of this post
Android M features new features like:
Android Pay
Snooze
App permissions
USB-Type C support
Native fingerprint scanning
More to come later!
Not working:
waze
amazon music
uber
mlb at bat
evernote
flesky
directv
Cinemark
Download M System Image: http://storage.googleapis.com/androiddevelopers/shareables/preview/shamu-MPZ44Q-preview-c1d6506a.tgz
Download Page for other devices: http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
@vomer made a thread for images and flashables! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3120851
M Screenshots
How to root Android M! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3123285
Version 2 is out! Find the system image here: http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
Direct Version 2 link: http://storage.googleapis.com/androiddevelopers/shareables/preview/shamu-MPZ79M-preview-e1024040.tgz

Snooze has me intruiged , seems like its Project Volta but forced at a system level instead of waiting for developers to implement into apps

Is it possible to do fingerprint scanning via the screen, with software? Or does it have o be a separate piece of hardware?

I assume hardware

Do we have to wait for I/O to end before Google throws the switch to the M preview? I for see several servers crashing for about 2 days or at least 6-10 hours before a stead fast DL.
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longshot21771 said:
Is it possible to do fingerprint scanning via the screen, with software? Or does it have o be a separate piece of hardware?
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Hardware such as Qualcomm's Sense ID
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Is Android M really going to look the same as L? There has to be at least a little bit of UI changes.

I've never flashed a developer preview before. Is it possible to flash with a nexus toolkit or does it need to be done in adb?

stevew84 said:
Is Android M really going to look the same as L? There has to be at least a little bit of UI changes.
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Yeah I thought it looked like the UI wasn't going to be a major change.

italia0101 said:
Snooze has me intruiged , seems like its Project Volta but forced at a system level instead of waiting for developers to implement into apps
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"Doze"? But yes I to am asking the same question, my N6 never was plagued with all the bugs many are having except the battery, but for sure can't wait to load M up and see!
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italia0101 said:
Snooze has me intruiged , seems like its Project Volta but forced at a system level instead of waiting for developers to implement into apps
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I already get 95% deep sleep with screen off...I fail to see the point of Doze. I suppose if you're always getting FB and G+ pings all day it might help sleep more.
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Do we have to wait for I/O to end before Google throws the switch to the M preview? I for see several servers crashing for about 2 days or at least 6-10 hours before a stead fast DL.
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Rumor has it the preview is coming out today. Least that is what people on reddit are reporting
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Is Android M really going to look the same as L? There has to be at least a little bit of UI changes.
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It is really pretty underwhelming for a version uptick. It seriously looks like you could use M and never notice you didn't have Lollipop. Seems like Google is going all Mozilla in terms of versioning.

They already mentioned that there were minor tweaks to the core experience, but they probably don't feel they were worth highlighting.
L was a huge visual revolution. Why did people expect M was going to have a big graphical overhaul or update?

inkdrink said:
They already mentioned that there were minor tweaks to the core experience, but they probably don't feel they were worth highlighting.
L was a huge visual revolution. Why do people expect M is going to have a graphical overhaul or update?
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Probably because most people expect a major name-branded update to have something they'd visually notice....not a collection of under-the-hood bug fixes and side improvements that you could easily never notice. Because all the stuff they highlighted are things that even power users might never touch or notice were there.

I suppose that's fair, but on their yearly update schedule I'm betting just about every update in the future will be name-branded, and I doubt they'll all be UI-heavy. Either way, I still see a lot I'm excited for. Android Pay will be nice as someone who uses but has grown tired of Wallet, and contextual Google Now in apps is pretty cool as well.

Skripka said:
Probably because most people expect a major name-branded update to have something they'd visually notice....not a collection of under-the-hood bug fixes and side improvements that you could easily never notice. Because all the stuff they highlighted are things that even power users might never touch or notice were there.
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Yup just like the crazy differences between Froyo and Gingerbread. Or the transformation of Jelly Bean into Kit Kat.
In reality we have no idea what visual changes will be made because the software is not finalized. The M preview is just a dev preview so that apps can be updated with the latest APIs from day 1. They barely showed anything as it relates to M that would show any real visual differences.

People act surprised that M looks the same as L. Look at Google history most updates don't change too much (if at all) from updates. ICS to JB etc. Yes GB did have a green theme but that was already having several updates with minimal ui changes except maybe a launcher. Hell even KK was very similar to JB. Take away google now launcher and visually they look the same

Greg Tolan said:
Yup just like the crazy differences between Froyo and Gingerbread. Or the transformation of Jelly Bean into Kit Kat.
In reality we have no idea what visual changes will be made because the software is not finalized. The M preview is just a dev preview so that apps can be updated with the latest APIs from day 1. They barely showed anything as it relates to M that would show any real visual differences.
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The most frustrating thing is there are allegedly "1000s" of bug fixes from reports. They claim they're in the M preview, and they claim said preview will be available later today....I know this is a revolutionary thought, so hold on to your hat, but why not push those fixes to Lollipop and publish 5.1.2 next week? Rather than force users to have to wait possibly 5-12 months for an update they may never get (depending on their device OEM)?
The alleged number of fixes in M are an order of magnitude greater than the number of fixes in all the Lollipop updates for the Nexus 6, combined, thus far. And Lollipop is still pretty buggy, especially if you're not on a Nexus.
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People act surprised that M looks the same as L. Look at Google history most updates don't change too much (if at all) from updates. ICS to JB etc. Yes GB did have a green theme but that was already having several updates with minimal ui changes except maybe a launcher. Hell even KK was very similar to JB. Take away google now launcher and visually they look the same
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IIRC KK brought a bunch of notification tray improvements in ICS and JB. But that was ages ago, and I'm going off memory. Also KK ran a ton better than ICS or JB.

http://developer.android.com/preview/index.html
Live.

I find android L right now to be beautiful, and I personally don't want them to change a thing.

is it possible to flash this onto a secondary rom with multirom?

When is Android 6.0 Marshmallow coming to the Nvidia Shield TV?

When is Android 6.0 Marshmallow coming to the Nvidia Shield TV? Nvidia is planning to upgrade all of us, right?

It's coming, as to when, well, your guess is as good as anybody's. I tweeted @NvidiaShield and the response was "you know we always have something cooking". Im looking forward to using external sd as internal. Other than that I don't know what else there really is to look forward to with it.

sooooon

I'm so excited for it !

oppressed11 said:
I'm so excited for it !
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Why?
Not trolling, genuinely curious. Since Shield TV is a "set top" box, things like Doze, battery savings, On Tap, really wouldn't matter.

Meanee said:
Why?
Not trolling, genuinely curious. Since Shield TV is a "set top" box, things like Doze, battery savings, On Tap, really wouldn't matter.
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Probably for the support of external memory being used as internal.

I can't wait for marshmallow too! I've been searching for ways to move apps 100% to the microSD card but so far nothing works!
I've tried all the apps 2 sd apps on Google Play and I even tried this:
XInternalSD
This module changes value (path to internal SD card) in some Android APIs which apps use. Control this path in module's settings. You can enable this module for all apps or only for specific apps. Also you can enable full access to external SD card (for KitKat+)
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.xinternalsd

Neo3D said:
I can't wait for marshmallow too! I've been searching for ways to move apps 100% to the microSD card but so far nothing works!
I've tried all the apps 2 sd apps on Google Play and I even tried this:
XInternalSD
This module changes value (path to internal SD card) in some Android APIs which apps use. Control this path in module's settings. You can enable this module for all apps or only for specific apps. Also you can enable full access to external SD card (for KitKat+)
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.xinternalsd
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I made a post here on Xda explaining how to have apps to external USB hdd if that's any help to you it's in the general section for the shield

Believe me, you won't be happy with marshmallow's sdcard adoption implementation. I don't care if this thing gets marshmallow lol. It runs everything perfect as it is right now. How about some goddamn top tier games tho, nvidia?!

beefy143 said:
I made a post here on Xda explaining how to have apps to external USB hdd if that's any help to you it's in the general section for the shield
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Link, please?

Neo3D said:
Link, please?
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Link
---------- Post added at 11:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:05 AM ----------
Video: NVIDIA Demos Android 6.0 Marshmallow on the SHIELD TV
NVIDIA has said the update will be available later this month, but no firm date has been announced just yet.
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new info:
Special Delivery: Android 6.0 Marshmallow, New Games and More Coming to SHIELD

Gilbot said:
Believe me, you won't be happy with marshmallow's sdcard adoption implementation. I don't care if this thing gets marshmallow lol. It runs everything perfect as it is right now. How about some goddamn top tier games tho, nvidia?!
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What do you mean?
Sounds like it's going to work very well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPGPBN5PJQ

New version will also bring you a lot of problem. It is just a TV, the current system is good enough for me.

[email protected] said:
New version will also bring you a lot of problem. It is just a TV, the current system is good enough for me.
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Based on what? That's like saying, "If you go outside, you're just going to die".
Some people just "talk" to hear themselves "talk".
There might be bugs/issues when it comes out, but overall newer versions tend to bring new features. More importantly, security patches are usually in newer versions too.

Sorry but he has a point. Still today I don't understand the need for new OS versions every 6 months. New OS will bring new features but also new bugs to be corrected. It's not like google makes HW specific OS. For example Minix already said they won't upgrade their Android base because they have a very stable, bug free SW and do not want to risk having to solve lots of bugs. Then again no one forces you to update, simply don't click the button
Nevertheless he has some point and they should focus on contacting app developers to support the Android TV a bit more because the amount of supported apps is just ridiculous in my opinion, specially considering the tremendous potential of Shield's HW.

Grippen50 said:
Sorry but he has a point. Still today I don't understand the need for new OS versions every 6 months. New OS will bring new features but also new bugs to be corrected. It's not like google makes HW specific OS. For example Minix already said they won't upgrade their Android base because they have a very stable, bug free SW and do not want to risk having to solve lots of bugs. Then again no one forces you to update, simply don't click the button
Nevertheless he has some point and they should focus on contacting app developers to support the Android TV a bit more because the amount of supported apps is just ridiculous in my opinion, specially considering the tremendous potential of Shield's HW.
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I shockingly found myself gently forced to update by Nvidia. The update popup appears annoyingly frequently and that was the main reason why I updated from V1.3 to V1.4. I do like updates I just didn't want to go through the hassle of re-rooting.

is there any news for new update? thanks

o0vash0o said:
is there any news for new update? thanks
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Nope. They will release it when it's ready. It makes no sense to rush a ROM deployment if it doesn't bring anything new over the past release and if it's not as stable. If they would do such a thing, the discussion over this board will turn into "Why doesn't nVidia care about their users and release crappy updates!!??!! Let's boycott [email protected]"!"!"