This article describes key new features and improvements in Windows Phone 8.1.
"A must read" for all WP developers (but not a hackers of course )
There are lot of "tasty" features in WP 8.1; as for me, it sounds like a great platform improvement without having to upgrade hardware. Hope to get dev preview of WP 8.1 very soon
I've been looking all morning for this article...thanks.
Didn't the leaked SDK contain all this a few months ago?
Sunius1 said:
Didn't the leaked SDK contain all this a few months ago?
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No, some things were hidden.
Hi,
An post, talk already of Windows Phone 8.1, on XDA Portal.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...tion-center-windows-to-bring-back-start-menu/
anaheiim, this topic is a little bit different. Article I've posted shortly describes new APIs for developers; it's not a discussion about user experience
P.S. Joke:
- Did you heard: Cortana will marry Siri?
- Are you kidding? It's not possible!
- No, it's possible in 17 states...
sensboston said:
anaheiim, this topic is a little bit different. Article I've posted shortly describes new APIs for developers; it's not a discussion about user experience
P.S. Joke:
- Did you heard: Cortana will marry Siri?
- Are you kidding? It's not possible!
- No, it's possible in 17 states...
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You are right, I did not see your link to MS dev blog in your first post.
Dev Preview of 8.1, will be released, of microsoft source during the first half of April.
And WPCentral source, announce April 14.
And for those who did not know (but I think you're all aware), the WP8.1 SDK is officially available in Release Candidate.
http://dev.windowsphone.com/en-us/downloadsdk
Yikes! This Windows Phone 8.1 Update seems to be a whole new OS with a ton of new features and improvements in UI and API.
Still didn't get: do they at MSFT plan to make the Update freely available through Windows Update to exiting Windows Phone 8 customers?
Luxon said:
Yikes! This Windows Phone 8.1 Update seems to be a whole new OS with a ton of new features and improvements in UI and API.
Still didn't get: do they at MSFT plan to make the Update freely available through Windows Update to exiting Windows Phone 8 customers?
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Yes! All Windows Phones can get updated to 8.1. It depends on when (and sadly, if) your carrier releases it. However if you want to get past that, you can just join the dev preview and it'll be downloadable sometime this month. Sources have been saying either the 10th or the 14th. So lookout
desolateone1 said:
Yes! All Windows Phones can get updated to 8.1. It depends on when (and sadly, if) your carrier releases it. However if you want to get past that, you can just join the dev preview and it'll be downloadable sometime this month. Sources have been saying either the 10th or the 14th. So lookout
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I thought MSFT had complete control over which devices get upgraded?
I saw in build conference that they had upgraded even the lowly 520 to 8.1!
Cheers!
desolateone1 said:
Yes! All Windows Phones can get updated to 8.1. It depends on when (and sadly, if) your carrier releases it. However if you want to get past that, you can just join the dev preview and it'll be downloadable sometime this month. Sources have been saying either the 10th or the 14th. So lookout
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Joe posted in twitter, that they don't know exact date. It'll be first part of April.
-W_O_L_F- said:
Joe posted in twitter, that they don't know exact date. It'll be first part of April.
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and he didn't mention the year
ceesheim said:
and he didn't mention the year
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I really thought they said (at build) that 8.1 preview was supposed to be available for download today 4/8.
They do. What part of @desolate1's post suggested otherwise? Join the dev preview program and get the update straight from Microsoft (as soon as it releases) while the bits are fresh!
It's only if you want to get it through your OEM and/or carrier that you'll need to wait, and risk disappointment. Reading comprehension, yo!
Related
Appears that Google has released the new Android SDK
http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/12/googles-android-os-early-look-sdk-now-available/
Considering HTC is on the list of direct supporters of Android, do you think the developers of xda will be able to make a build that runs on the current WM6 platforms? Such as the TyTn(8525)?
Lotsoguns said:
Appears that Google has released the new Android SDK
http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/12/googles-android-os-early-look-sdk-now-available/
Considering HTC is on the list of direct supporters of Android, do you think the developers of xda will be able to make a build that runs on the current WM6 platforms? Such as the TyTn(8525)?
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in a word -- yes!
http://code.google.com/android/kb/general.html#runonphone
says "no".
greets, Nik
when can we get the Android platform
on wm6
I have a At&t Tilt
any news or Link
thank you
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http://code.google.com/android/kb/general.html#runonphone
says "no".
greets, Nik
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That italic word insert is made to replace with a phone that could not be used with android. It`s not yet known. So for now it is Yes!
In a recent interview with the CEO of HTC on engadget, this question was asked, first time it was dodge, the 2nd time he bluntly stated that they would not be adding android support to existing Win mobile devices.
Now that's not to say it's not going to happen, but it looks like HTC aren't going to make it easy for us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383988
Says "It's possibly portable to other HTC-Devices"!
greetz
"Software giant Microsoft is apparently getting ready to drop its trousers and unveil its assets at the Mobile World Congress event at Barcelona next month. "
"Microsoft is also expected to unveil Windows Mobile 6.5 with the new UI at the Mobile World Congress. "
XPERIA will get the upgrade i am sure!
Hurrah - "new UI" hopefully more easy to use!
This post does not help anybody for some reasons:
1) You did not state the source of your informtion
2) Most people may already have known this
3) this is only speculation (anyway I am expecting the announcment soon too)
4) no one knows what to expect from WM6.5 except Skynet...
sorry, i hope to not offend you but thats what came up in my mind...
It will be interesting to see if Xperia actually gets the update to WM6.5, but I'm not so sure. One can only hope... In any case, surely the developers at XDA will cook something up
Here: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2485
Nothing has been said about a new XPERIA. SE haven't announced its new partner yet and previous reports state that the new XPERIA should be unveiled late 2009...
Comeradealexi - Thanks for letting us well me know as it means I've got something to google now on my lunch break.
here it is if you don't want to click
"Neowin, quoting unnamed sources close to Microsoft, is claiming Mobile World Congress (February 16-19th), will not only be bringing Windows Mobile 6.5, but also a slew of Microsoft services rumoured previously to the Windows Mobile platform.
“SkyBox” is a service for users to sync a phones information with the web. Microsoft will be offering automatic backup and restore services, access and management of phone data and provide easy communication and sharing with others. The service will also allow syncing of contacts, email/SMS, calendar items and pictures into the cloud. Neowin adds a new detail, not rumoured previously, that this service will be available not only on Windows Mobile, but also for other phone OS’s.
“SkyLine” will be aimed at small businesses. Offering similar functionality to SkyBox, businesses will be able to setup their phones with Microsoft’s Exchange hosting with their own domain names.
“SkyMarket” is Microsoft’s mobile marketplace, a competitor to Apple’s AppStore and RIM’s Blackberry application center.
Neowin also claims that their sources confirm the leaked screenshots from earlier this year are in fact real, despite being panned for having icons stolen from the Apple OSX desktop, and that they represent design concepts.
Looks like we do have quite a bit to look forward to in a months time after all."
so make of that what you will
could have sworn i posted this yesterday..
i think x1 will work slower after upgrade.
because it's windows : )
Ethermind said:
i think x1 will work slower after upgrade.
because it's windows : )
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After having played with Windows 7... i can say that Microsoft is finally taking things in the right direction. So i expect WinMo 6.5 to be way better.
msalmank said:
After having played with Windows 7... i can say that Microsoft is finally taking things in the right direction. So i expect WinMo 6.5 to be way better.
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I think you meant hope.. ;P
fards said:
I think you meant hope.. ;P
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LOL LOL
Ah... Microsucks...
well... let's better hope we get "some" update "some" day... as things are going till now... maybe this will be the first PDA without official rom updates... ¬¬
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After having played with Windows 7... i can say that Microsoft is finally taking things in the right direction. So i expect WinMo 6.5 to be way better.
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"The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuums." -Old forum posting
All joking aside, I am looking forward to any updates made to Windows Mobile Professional. Standard got a real nice interface boost with 6.1, and we didn't get squat in the "looks" department.
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I think you meant hope.. ;P
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Actually... i meant EXPECT!
NotATreoFan said:
"The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuums." -Old forum posting
All joking aside, I am looking forward to any updates made to Windows Mobile Professional. Standard got a real nice interface boost with 6.1, and we didn't get squat in the "looks" department.
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Just go and play with Windows 7 and you'll be sitting right here beside me saying that you EXPECT Windows Mobile to be taken in the right direction...
msalmank said:
Just go and play with Windows 7 and you'll be sitting right here beside me saying that you EXPECT Windows Mobile to be taken in the right direction...
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I've been running Windows 7 for about 2 weeks now, and I'm with you 100%. I'm not running it as my full time OS, but it is definitely running better than Vista did in beta/pre-SP1.
yeah - they've done it right with windows 7 - they'll have done it right with mobile 6.5/7
It seems somewhat likely that the X1 will get the update as we haven't heard a word from sony about any software updates whatsoever. What's the use of the software update utility if no updates are made? Maybe they haven't released anything because they have to wait until 6.5 is announced.
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(windows 7) is definitely running better than Vista did in beta/pre-SP1.
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Windows 7 beta 1 is better than Vista full stop
Cant wait for WM7... getting bored of the same old same old now.....................
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It seems somewhat likely that the X1 will get the update as we haven't heard a word from sony about any software updates whatsoever. What's the use of the software update utility if no updates are made? Maybe they haven't released anything because they have to wait until 6.5 is announced.
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More likely, since they've parted ways with HTC, they've abandoned updating the Xperia X1, so not only will we not see Windows Mobile 6.5, we won't even get any firmware updates, like the retarded problem where turning off WIFI also turns of Bluetooth at the same time, or where Bluetooth keeps turning off by itself (workaround is Mortscript, but why do we need workarounds?!), etc. etc.
The HTC Touch HD has ALREADY had 2 or 3 updates, and it was released later than the Xperia X1. Where are the Xperia updates? NONE. NADA. ZIP.
I have an Xperia X1 but I'm starting to feel mighty bad here... I'm not feeling any love from HTC or SE and I doubt (and I hope I'm wrong) that we will see any updates, ever, for our machines.
Hi some time ago when windows 8.1 was still called blue there were some rumours that Micro$oft will merge its two platforms. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 would share she same Metro apps. This move should give M$ edge over Apple where you could have best of both worlds on single device. It seems now that this idea has been lost somewhere in 8.1 changelog.
So I was looking for revolution but it seems that we will receive just evolution. Oh and for most of the portals major change is the start button! Really?!
You seem to be suffering from some keyboard defect. I suggest you look into that. In the meantime, get back under your bridge.
Hi. Thank you for your reply. My post was to start a discussion about the features of new update and about lack of some expected ones (which maybe still will be announced).
And what was the purpose of your reply?
It was never said that wp8 and w8 would become one and the same. You have misunderstood. Some of the new windows runtime features are coming to windows phone and the services offered were to be merged, but the operating systems themselves were to remain seperate.
>Some of the new windows runtime features are coming to windows phone and the services offered were to be merged, but the operating systems themselves were to remain desperate.
that way I had to misunderstood this (would be a great idea thou). Sort of like universal apps shared between iphone and ipad) I seen few apps which are being announced as both windows 8 and windows phone 8 (check co-pilot or halo) which probably kept me in believing in this. Oh well we will see where windows 8 will evolve.
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that way I had to misunderstood this (would be a great idea thou). Sort of like universal apps shared between iphone and ipad) I seen few apps which are being announced as both windows 8 and windows phone 8 (check co-pilot or halo) which probably kept me in believing in this. Oh well we will see where windows 8 will evolve.
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iPhone and iPad share apps simply because they are the same operating system. The iPad is just a giant iPhone. its the same as how one android phone and another share apps, they are the same thing.
Windows phone and windows 8 are not.
The desperate thing I said above, may be true but autocorrect fail, wrote it from my nexus this morning.
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Hi. Thank you for your reply. My post was to start a discussion about the features of new update and about lack of some expected ones (which maybe still will be announced).
And what was the purpose of your reply?
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Purpose of his post is that you stop using that $ instead of S.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Oh. I am sorry I didn't know that I hurt his / yours religious feelings.
Unless of course this gentleman refers to his home as "under the bridge" I read his post as simple attempt to offend.
In light of recent E3 news (xbox one- drm management, activation fees, price, Internet connection requirement to work, always-on camera pointing your face and listening all the time which you cannot just unplug) I thing that using $ instead of S is good way to comment the situation.
To end this pointless conversation - unless there there is a XDA rule which prohibits me to do so then please stop trolling and trying to offend other forum members.
Now coming back to 8.1 - is this correct what I understood from brief installation description that if you install this release you will have to reinstall all the programs if you would like to install final release?
"M$" and similar (and I'd apply this statement even to, for example, "$ony" which is a company I personally detest) is most commonly used as trolling behavior online. This is doubly true in a forum devoted to discussing Microsoft products. It's possible you had, and still have, a legit intention to create a meaningful discussion. However, it looked (and to an extent, still looks) like you're merely trying to stir up trouble.
I agree that the XbOne restrictions are nasty, but I have no intention of buying one, and this forum has nothing to do with that product.
The only hint I ever saw regarding merging the app models was a job posting about installing both XAP and APPX packages on the same platform. That's interesting, and does imply a merged app platform, but there's no guarantee it was even going to happen, much less when. To the best of my knowledge, Microsoft never officially said anything to the effect of "we will do this" although there's been rampant speculation since the Win8 beta days.
You are right. I has never been said officially thus my expectations and hopes to see any bits of confirmation during the press conference. When I haven seen any I asked the question here. Still must say I am looking forward this update (probably not for first public beta - if the rumours are true that you will have to reinstall all your applications).
Personally I believe that The Redmond company will need stronger impact to conquer more market right now windows 8 is getting the love it should receive as is being designed for touch but mostly is being use on non-touchscreen laptops and PC. Marked wasn't ready for this. So right approach would be IMO to get more tablet users on their side (look at the latest adverts windows 8 vs iPad). If 8" tablets market is good for win8 is another discussion thou.
But coming back to subject. Has this been confirm that win 8.1 final version cannot be I painless way installed on top of preview?
Cheers
In practice, it's pretty much always possible to do an in-place upgrade via tweaking a few files in the installer or a value in the registry. However, in-place upgrades are a bad enough idea even when they're supported; I really can't endorse doing it on your main system. I may well install the preview in a VM, though.
I think in this case I will rather wait for official final release. Hdd restrictions will not allow me to have more fun on vm. I am already running win8 on bootcamp so no more complications are required
Also partially as an answer to my initial question it has been announced that new halo game for win 8 and win phone 8 will not be a cross buy. These will be two independent apps so no one unified system for now at least.
Yeah, that's been the case for a number of games already. On the plus side, the games *can* still share data between platforms if you have it on boath, and you can earn achievemnts on both... which would matter more if I gave a damn about gamerscore (I've got like 3500, LOL) but some people really care.
Hi all. There is still light at the end of the tunnel (hope it's not a train
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...indows-phone-teams-in-titanic-microsoft-rejig
Hey,
Have you read about the private 8.1 SDK beta that started? The screenshots look legit, and the verge confirmed this too: http://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/1xloor/wp81_is_going_to_have_javascript_support/
Especially the SD card option is interesting, and the ability to prevent SD card installs in the manifest sounds like a great idea to me (it makes modifying apps a lot harder, since you'd need an unlock to get any files). what do you think?
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Hey,
Have you read about the private 8.1 SDK beta that started? The screenshots look legit, and the verge confirmed this too: http://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/1xloor/wp81_is_going_to_have_javascript_support/
Especially the SD card option is interesting, and the ability to prevent SD card installs in the manifest sounds like a great idea to me (it makes modifying apps a lot harder, since you'd need an unlock to get any files). what do you think?
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This
April 2nd can't come soon enough.
I hope there is a way it would be leaked to the public, so we could download this...
Apps in SD means 16+64GB for my ativ S.
So just get the Preview for Developers app from Microsoft and install the MS bits. No need to wait for the firmware update from the OEM... I'll receive WP8.1 as soon as Microsoft releases it, without even waiting for my OEM, much less my MO, to approve it.
the SDK is pure awesomeness...
...and full of bugs xD
Well, i suppose users will have a new annoying thing to complain about...
I love all of the changes implemented in WP8.1, but I'm not going to do the developers preview unfortunately. I'd rather wait until all the bugs are ironed out.
People seem to be complaining about the skinned live tiles being a customization option. While it may take away from the uniqueness of live tiles' designs from each other, depending on the background chosen, it may look pretty sweet. Although, I'd love to have an option for an actual background instead.
any idea when it could be available in "preview for developers" ?
It was said all over the internet that developer preview is expected to launch at this year's BUILD event, which will take place on April 2nd.
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It was said all over the internet that developer preview is expected to launch at this year's BUILD event, which will take place on April 2nd.
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waiting for it !!
Ready for some great news!
Microsoft which is recently seeded to windows8.1 update for developers, now the rumors are floating around that it will working on releasing Windows Phone update 2 to developers by October this year.
Main points of this news
Expected that Cortana virtual assistant will cover wider geographical area.
Sorting of setting menu that is expected to users to allow to better organise settings by resorting to an 'alphabetical sort'.
Expected to come with toggle feature in action center.
all the expected features of Windows Phone 8.1 Update 2 indicate at more high-end devices manufactured by Microsoft, probably a new high-end Lumia series.
There's talk about a Lumia 1020 successor, might come with Update 2. Things are moving fast for WP. I like it. And with Dev preview I don't have to root my device to be able to use the newest of the newest firmware.
astoria0128 said:
Ready for some great news!
Microsoft which is recently seeded to windows8.1 update for developers, now the rumors are floating around that it will working on releasing Windows Phone update 2 to developers by October this year.
Main points of this news
Expected that Cortana virtual assistant will cover wider geographical area.
Sorting of setting menu that is expected to users to allow to better organise settings by resorting to an 'alphabetical sort'.
Expected to come with toggle feature in action center.
all the expected features of Windows Phone 8.1 Update 2 indicate at more high-end devices manufactured by Microsoft, probably a new high-end Lumia series.
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Highly unlike for them to go this fast, considering they just released update 1 a few weeks back and the update is still full of bugs. And OEMs like HTC and samsung still need to get their firmware ready for update 1.
Bu telefonu sevmedim gitti
MOD EDIT: please post in English or provide an automatic translation next time, such as this one:
I tried to like this phone
Aziz04 said:
Bu telefonu sevmedim gitti
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We are on a forum with the English as language, so please post the messages in English
anaheiim said:
We are on a forum with the English as language, so please post the messages in English
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all right . I'm sorry. ' I do not like the phone went '
Just got a update OTA, it mention some improvement and I think a file explorer.
Forgot to mention i have the Lumia 930.
kms108 said:
Just got a update OTA, it mention some improvement and I think a file explorer.
Forgot to mention i have the Lumia 930.
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http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-windows-phone-81-gdr1-update-lumia-930
Loving update 1 on lumia 930
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My house phone's better than your iPhone.
I want Windows Phone 10 Technical Preview.
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I want Windows Phone 10 Technical Preview.
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Feb
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Even my house phone's better than your iPhone.