its been awhile since I've done any work on a rom I used to do some stuff with MIUI. What I did with that was mostly simple stuff from phone to phone. The question is if I wanted to port a note3 ROM over to my new 2014 what would I need to change besides the kernel, the build.prop I just can't figure out what else?
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its been awhile since I've done any work on a rom I used to do some stuff with MIUI. What I did with that was mostly simple stuff from phone to phone. The question is if I wanted to port a note3 ROM over to my new 2014 what would I need to change besides the kernel, the build.prop I just can't figure out what else?
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If it's Kitkat you're after you're out of luck... The note 3 needs updated bootloader to run KK, and once upgraded there's no going back to JB...
Id love to see an AOSP ROM
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If it's Kitkat you're after you're out of luck... The note 3 needs updated bootloader to run KK, and once upgraded there's no going back to JB...
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Uhm there are dozens of note 3 Kitkat custom roms he could port, and he obviously knows that. Don't waste space with non productive dribble.
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Uhm there are dozens of note 3 Kitkat custom roms he could port, and he obviously knows that. Don't waste space with non productive dribble.
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And each of them use the KK bootloader... Not non-productive dribble (drivel) if its actually relevant unless you want to test and see if the Note 3 KK bootloader won't brick your lovely expensive toy...
Maybe you should check things out before spouting non relevant drivel....
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And each of them use the KK bootloader... Not non-productive dribble (drivel) if its actually relevant unless you want to test and see if the Note 3 KK bootloader won't brick your lovely expensive toy...
Maybe you should check things out before spouting non relevant drivel....
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The Canadian note 3 can flash back because of fewer restrictions. No reason to assume the tablet is more secure when that is never the case.
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And he could pry the room itself after our kitkat bootloader is released
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The Canadian note 3 can flash back because of fewer restrictions. No reason to assume the tablet is more secure when that is never the case.
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And he could pry the room itself after our kitkat bootloader is released
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True the Canadian Note 3 has looser restrictions but that is a VERY small percentage of Note 3's in the world.
Based on the statistics this does not bode well for the International version either exynos or qualcomm...
I'm not assuming the P60* series is completely locked down but I tend to look at worst case scenarios then work around that.
My job tends to revolve around that so there's no nasty surprises and people ending up dead.... This bleeds through to all facets of my life...
After the KK bootloader is released we will have KK roms... Why try out questionable roms that may or may not work on/brick your device...
Does this seem rational to you?
Fairly, Im certain he wouldn't release a port that he hadn't tested. And the rom itself can be flashed separate from the boot loader once we hare the 4.4 boot loader for ours, and rather I believe he intended a non KK rom. however if after 4.4 releases he chooses to its Just a matter of getting the original dev's permission then if a direct port isn't possible checking the dev's change log and replicating it as thoroughly as possible.
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Typing this post from my 8013 freshly turned 8010. Confirmed flashing via MobileODIN works without a hitch. No bugs at all so far. Unsure of desktop ODIN flash though.
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What's the advantage of using MobileODIN over CWM recovery?
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What's the advantage of using MobileODIN over CWM recovery?
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For starters, CWM isn't capable of flashing stock ODIN images and MobileODIN is. I wanted to make sure the flash introduced as few changes as possible, so I decided against a custom ROM or stock, prerooted CWM zip. I just used the latest LH2 from Germany, opted for everroot, and flashed it.
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What's the advantage of having a German Rom. Is it newer firmware or just a preference
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Where did you get the rom because I dont't see any in the dev forum?
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Where did you get the rom because I dont't see any in the dev forum?
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sammobile.com
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What's the advantage of having a German Rom. Is it newer firmware or just a preference
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The advantage isn't because the ROM is German; it's becsuse it's a GT-N8010 ROM and international devices always get updates before U.S. devices. This means that when the 8010 gets JB, I can flash it to my 8013.
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Thanks...so I could just download any 8010 rom and flash it through mobile Odin even though I do have a cwm recovery?
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What's the advantage of having a German Rom. Is it newer firmware or just a preference
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It bypasses U.S. patent avoiding changes like the elimination of global search. I don't know if there are any others. The downside is most of the EU ROM's have features (bloatware) that don't function from the U.S. so they eat up memory. That is unless you root and debloat but if that's the case you're better off running one of the custom ROMs in the dev section. Also, you'll never receive updates from Kies or OTA again because your CSC won't match the PDA s/w on your device.
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Thanks...so I could just download any 8010 rom and flash it through mobile Odin even though I do have a cwm recovery?
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If you like. I only did it as an experiment so I could see if it worked. As for Kies and OTA issues, I only ever update with MobileODIN. So if you're okay with that, go for it. Also, use Titanium Backup to backup Media Hub before you flash. It isn't in int'l ROMs. They come with Video Hub, which doesn't work here. You want to uninstall Video Hub and replace it with Media Hub. After that though, everything's the same. However, I should mention that my only reason for doing this was to see if I could use the N8010 JB release when it comes out because it'll come before the N8013 release.
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Gotcha now that i know ill problem do the same when it comes. thanks
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thanks for your information, i have been searching for this answer for a long time. same with custom rom too, right?
omnia1994 said:
thanks for your information, i have been searching for this answer for a long time. same with custom rom too, right?
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Haven't tried. Custom ROMs vary too much.
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thanks for your information, i have been searching for this answer for a long time. same with custom rom too, right?
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custom ROM should also works. No one really ever found out what's the real difference between 8010 and 8013 yet, as far as I know. ROMS and ODIN files should be exchangeable between 8010 and 8013. Hardware wise I really don't think there is any difference at all.
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custom ROM should also works. No one really ever found out what's the real difference between 8010 and 8013 yet, as far as I know. ROMS and ODIN files should be exchangeable between 8010 and 8013. Hardware wise I really don't think there is any difference at all.
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The same except for the cellular radios in the N8000 versus WiFi only radios in the N8013.
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The same except for the cellular radios in the N8000 versus WiFi only radios in the N8013.
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But he's talking about the 8010 which is just the international wifi version. Aside from the software configuration there is probably zero difference in the 8010 and 8013.
And since 8000 custom roms work (with a reboot quirk) on the 8013 its safe to assume custom 8010 roms would be fine on the 8013 with no problems.
And yes, I know what assuming gets me!
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But he's talking about the 8010 which is just the international wifi version. Aside from the software configuration there is probably zero difference in the 8010 and 8013.
And since 8000 custom roms work (with a reboot quirk) on the 8013 its safe to assume custom 8010 roms would be fine on the 8013 with no problems.
And yes, I know what assuming gets me!
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Tuesday, October 2, 2012
XDA Members & Note 10.1 Owners:
To help clear up any confusion, I'll tell you what I know about the GT-N8013 and the GT-N8010. As some have speculated, they are physically identical. However, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT EACH AND EVERY ROM BUILT/RELEASED FOR ONE DEVICE IS GUARANTEED TO WORK ON THE OTHER. For example, they may very well have different partition layouts. Honestly, I don't know if they do or don't. Perhaps this is something that Entropy512 could look into.
Anyway, I've seen a lot of curiosity and speculation about cross-compatibility with custom ROMs. As I stated in an earlier post, custom ROMs vary too much, and I have not personally tried any. That being said, I HAVE flashed the GT-N8013 with GT-N8010 ROMs in MobileOdin, and that's about as extreme as you can get. Considering that stock ROMs can be MobileOdin-flashed from one device to the other, I see no reason why CWM-flashable custom ROMs wouldn't be the same. However, until someone bites the proverbial bullet and flashes a custom GT-N8010 ROM on a GT-N8013, we can't be 100% sure. I know it's a lot to take in, and difficult to decide on whether to try and flash a ROM for another device or not; but if it's of any use to you, I, personally, would go ahead and try it if the custom ROM in question was the one I really wanted and there was no build available for my device. That is not a guarantee, and I ACCEPT NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR DEVICES DAMAGED, BRICKED, ETC. AS A RESULT OF TRYING ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD! I only maintain that this is something I would personally attempt; as evidenced by the fact that I already attempted it once before when I flashed my GT-N8013 to a GT-N8010!
Given the success of that attempt, I feel reasonably certain that "most" ROMs should work across both devices. I also feel like this topic warrants some professional scrutiny. I don't think it would hurt to have a developer or two look into this. If the Note 10.1's developer and advanced user community is to grow and evolve, stuff like this could be a defining advantage over other similar platforms. Anyway, that's just my opinion. Aside from the fact that the GT-N8013 and GT-N8010 are physically identical, I can't tell you anything else with 100% certainty.
I hope this went some way towards clearing things up. I know I was pleasantly surprised when I flashed my GT-N8013 with a GT-N8010 ROM and it turned my GT-N8013 into a GT-N8010 instead of bricking it. I hope this flexibilty turns out to be universal with ROMs for these two devices. I wish you all the best. Take care and have a good one!
Thank you,
Ed [Mister_Mxyzptlk]
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Entropy already looked into this and he still hasn't find any difference yet, as far as i know. I think so far the only difference is the Wi-Fi support bands.
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Entropy already looked into this and he still hasn't find any difference yet, as far as i know. I think so far the only difference is the Wi-Fi support bands.
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Ya'. I think that may just be software too. They use the same WiFi chipset.... if I remember correctly.
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What about GT-N8013 roms on a GT-N8010? The N8010 is the 16GB WiFi tablet
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To the OP, did you automatically get JB update?
damn i am so mad... HTC One getting 4.3 today .. Samsung delaying 4.3 surely to sell out Note III with 4.3
anyone knows when the rollout gonna start?
I read somewhere that they said 4.3 comes in October ... why you need 4.3 so badly?
Welcome to the world of Samsung. Also, please ask your questions in the QUESTION and answer section.
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It's coming as expected in October.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-3-galaxy-s4-october-galaxy-s3-galaxy-note-2-december-samsung-confirms-277318/
Im wonderin why 4.3 update is big deal for some people need to make new thread like this.
There is no significant changes from 4.2 to 4.3.
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Im wonderin why 4.3 update is big deal for some people need to make new thread like this.
There is no significant changes from 4.2 to 4.3.
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Actually there will be changes..... From Knox Sh#$Ft to other bootloader lockdowns.
That's the biggest concern trying to get 4.3 without updating the bootloader
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Use cm 10.2 and you got Android 4.3 without touchwiz
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Looks like when Samsung do an update to 4.3, it's probably going to have this new secure boot loader with the Knox security. I'd rather stay with a GE ROM for now for 4.3, as it's cleaner and doesn't have this problem. As least if something goes wrong, I can revert to stock and keep my warranty. So personally, Samsung can keep their full TW crap firmware lol
May be the end of October
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May be the end of October
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Or the end of this year, ya all remember the leaked Galaxy S3 firmwares still no official v4.2.2 for S3 -.-'
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i think that owners of a i9500 will have more roms, maybe even a oficial cyanogenmod...
surely with the S4 being a flagship phone they will keep it up to date in line with the Note 3. like people say though, the worry is getting 4.3 and 4.4 etc without any Knox junk or locked bootloaders etc. Been there with locked bootloaders with HTC and i dont want to go back there again!!
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surely with the S4 being a flagship phone they will keep it up to date in line with the Note 3. like people say though, the worry is getting 4.3 and 4.4 etc without any Knox junk or locked bootloaders etc. Been there with locked bootloaders with HTC and i dont want to go back there again!!
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I heard 4.3 will allow openGL ES 3.0 .. thats why need it.. is it true?
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Or the end of this year, ya all remember the leaked Galaxy S3 firmwares still no official v4.2.2 for S3 -.-'
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They need to update it asap due to galaxy gear compatibility...
So it will not be liked s4 case.
marc_ecko28 said:
They need to update it asap due to galaxy gear compatibility...
So it will not be liked s4 case.
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Well we will see later lol
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TarikZhang said:
May be the end of October
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samsung say in October..
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i think that owners of a i9500 will have more roms, maybe even a oficial cyanogenmod...
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There's never going to be a stable release of CM for the 9500 for the same reason as the 9300: Exynos.
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arnob_xperia said:
I heard 4.3 will allow openGL ES 3.0 .. thats why need it.. is it true?
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Yes, OpenGL ES 3.0 is part of 4.3.
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May be the end of October
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samsung say in October..
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There's never going to be a stable release of CM for the 9500 for the same reason as the 9300: Exynos.
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that's not completely true, actually i had a i9300, and it has a stable CM, i used it for a while!
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I wanted to know if there's a way to get S Note from the Galaxy Note working on the S4, I was able to use it when I had an S3.
Thanks
Find the app you used for the s3 and install it the worst thing that can happen is it doesnt work?
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fabster530 said:
Find the app you used for the s3 and install it the worst thing that can happen is it doesnt work?
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Already tried that, it didn't work, I'm guessing it was because the apk i tried was from JB 4.1.2 and I think I need a version for 4.2.2, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
Try the one from the Note 3 then. I know its 4.3 but as previously mentioned, whats the worst that could happen. I have a few things working from the Note 3 on my 2 that seem to work great regardless of 4.1.2 framework.
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Try the one from the Note 3 then. I know its 4.3 but as previously mentioned, whats the worst that could happen. I have a few things working from the Note 3 on my 2 that seem to work great regardless of 4.1.2 framework.
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I managed to find S Note from the Note 3 and it works.
How about sharing the apk then
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How about sharing the apk then
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Here you go: S Note from Note 3
You can also check out this thread for others APKs from other devices: Android Ported Apps Directory
The 2nd link is where I actually found S Note from the Note 3
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Cyclops1055 said:
I managed to find S Note from the Note 3 and it works.
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How are you getting this to work? I cannot on my galaxy s4 I337 running 4.2.2 jellybean. Haven't got the newest update yet, but i tried to and it didn't work, can you explain how please
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How are you getting this to work? I cannot on my galaxy s4 I337 running 4.2.2 jellybean. Haven't got the newest update yet, but i tried to and it didn't work, can you explain how please
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All I did was flash the zip using cwm, I am however using a deodexed rom.
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So do you have to be rooted then? Cause i thought i asked this but you didnt answer that part of the question? I am not rooted and all im trying to do is get the S-Pen to work on my gakaxy S4
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Any ideas for the S-Pen? I don't know if there is a special software program out there to make it compatible with the s4. But had a nite one and so i miss the pen oart of the program. I got two brand new s-pens from att with the holders wish are exoensive and estimated it at $99.99 each so i really hate to waste them. I suppose i can hi to att and sell them back and use the credit towards something else. But if you know if there's a way to use them with the Galaxy S4 please don't hesitate to let me know . I woukd greatly appreciate any feedback you can give me!
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Can any developer build an AOSP ROM with no touch wiz or s-pen features for Note 3 ? :victory:
Sure but you can't flash it
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akellar said:
Sure but you can't flash it
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This.
AOSP would require a different kernel which we can not flash/install. Dev edition Note 3 , most likely no issues since the BL is unlocked, but not our retail versions.
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This.
AOSP would require a different kernel which we can not flash/install. Dev edition Note 3 , most likely no issues since the BL is unlocked, but not our retail versions.
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This^ and even with an unlocked bootloader it still takes a lot of work to port it
I saw Beans Rom and Hyper Drive Rom and thought it was as easy as removing all the samsung junk from the Rom. Looks like thats not the case.
Anyway, thanks for replying guys.:good:
First off sorry if I have missed something but I have been doing some reading but am slightly confused.
I am looking at a Verizon Note 3 on ebay to keep unlimited data since I just sold my Note 2 which was rooted and running a custom rom which is kinda a must for me. Where I am confused is I see tutorials on how to root the note 3 but I also see a petition to have verizon unlock the bootloader. When I hear locked bootloader I think no rooting and custom roms. So did verizon just recently lock the note 3 down like they did with the note 2 4.3 update? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
Basically I just want to be able to root my Note 3 but am not worried about voiding any warranties with verizon since I'm buying it on ebay or something. Feel free to post links to this answer since I'm not opposed to reading just kinda overwhelmed right now.
Thanks for answering my stupid question and have a great weekend!!!
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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ContractorDude said:
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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Ok so it looks like I should be able to root it no problem. Whats big deal with the locked bootloader then?
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Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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Ahhhh ok thank you for the quick response!!!
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The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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Oh I don't doubt it for a second!! That's why I was confused saw plenty of custom ROMs but didn't really pay attention to tw or not. Not really an issue since I've been having crazy battery draining issues on everything I put 4.4.2 on. Haven't done my research but I'm sure it won't be long till 4.4 tw hits the note 3 anyways.
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Ya, Sprints already getting it.
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What is "locked" on the retail device is the recovery and boot partitions. They are crypto-signed and verified early in the boot sequence. Until the phone is hacked, it means it is impossible to boot a non-Samsung kernel or non-Samsung recovery. Even if you intentionally blow the Warranty flag on the phone, this behavior will not change.
So, while you can root, whatever "ROM" you want to try and use must play nice with a STOCK kernel (& ramdisk). So, no CM for example.
Also - because of "version upgrade locking", if you upgrade a stock kernel (let's say MJ7 -> MJE), you might not be able to use Nandroid restores of previous ROMs you formerly used any longer... depending on how tightly the ROM depends on kernel & ramdisk behaviors.
And one more thing - the Safestrap "psuedo-recovery" actually boots the beginning of a stock ROM (or whatever you have in the "stock slot"). One consequence of this is that you no longer have a separately bootable recovery to fix up mistakes or restore backups from. If you wedge the primary OS somehow, the consequence of that will be a loss of all data on the phone which is not backed up, and a trip to Odin to restore a pure stock firmware ... and starting all over from square 1.
(If you buy a Note 3, you might want to consider a BIG removable SD card - then you will have room for media/backups/etc that is not vulnerable to an Odin flash)
So basically, you have a limited form of rooting available.
More info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49758703&postcount=5