Surface doubt - Windows 8 General

Can I use USB dongle in Microsoft surface ..

sathara said:
Can I use USB dongle in Microsoft surface ..
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Define USB dongle?
Bluetooth, 3G, wifi, Xbee, nordic, IrDa, need specifics

Which we put sim in it and connect to internet its 3g
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There are no USB 3G modems compatible with windows RT. You will need to buy a 3g capable wireless router/hotspot instead.
EDIT: @Trig0r below, presuming your phone supports it (which is pretty much any made this decade mind you Provided your carrier doesnt block it stupidly) then does your phone not count as buying a 3g capable hotspot?

Or tether to a phone..
Edit, you don't need to buy a 3G or in fact 4g router if you have a phone that tethers, as long as your mobile contract has the appropriate plan in place, better?

Of course, if you meant a Surface Pro (or Pro 2) then yes, obviously; it's just Windows, same as any other PC.
With Windows RT, there *might* be some supported USB cellular modem devices, but I'm not aware of any, and you can't use downloaded drivers unless they're compiled for RT (which, generally speaking, they never will be).

I think so ..it can support ..
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GoodDayToDie said:
Of course, if you meant a Surface Pro (or Pro 2) then yes, obviously; it's just Windows, same as any other PC.
With Windows RT, there *might* be some supported USB cellular modem devices, but I'm not aware of any, and you can't use downloaded drivers unless they're compiled for RT (which, generally speaking, they never will be).
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I actually misread and could have sworn it said RT but in hindsight it appears it does not. I checked the windows device compatibility list and every cell modem on there is listed as unsupported except those little portable wifi hotspots you can buy which of course dont need drivers.
Pro is obviously fine.

As a side note for the OP, if you did mean the Surface RT or Surface 2 (both of which run Windows RT) as opposed to the Surface Pro or Surface Pro 2 (both of which run Windows 8), then you posted in the wrong forum! Either post in the RT General forum (instead of the Win8 general) or post in the Surface forum...

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HSDPA on X1

Ok, I could never get the "internet sharing" to work on x1 with my friends laptop cause i dont have the drivers...so always used Wifirouter.
I find it a little slow, but it works and does work well. However, I read that the x1 supports "HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 2 Mbps" ...but i dont get speeds like that.
If somebody has the files required for connecting the x1 to a laptop and use internet sharing instead of wifirouter...can you upload and post it here? I will then keep them on my storage card for safe keeping.
Also, how do you find internet sharing? Is there any difference in speed compared to wifirouter?
Any help or advice would be great, cheers guy!
I think HSDPA is simply network dependent -when its there you get an H symbol on your signal strength (taskbar) ...when its not there you get the next best thing (3G) and if that's not available you're stuck with plain old slow GPRS (G)
Internet sharing works well for me (obviously depends on the connection you have on the X1 -as above) ...have not used wifirouter so can't say how they compare
7.2 Mbps is theoretical maximum. Your provider is not obliged to provide you with this speed. I get about 1 Mbps for download.
Actually you don't need special drivers for the X1 in order to use tethering. Just connect the X1 to a PC using an USB cable and start the "Internet Sharing" Application on the Xperia. Within the application select "USB Connection" and choose your preconfigured ISP connection profile - é voilà. You will notice that the Xperia appears as a network adapter on the PC. I use that a lot.
Regarding the speed: It really depends on your mobile network. Though my network provider (Vodafone Germany) has some spots where 7,2 MBit/s should be available, I have never had such fast download rates - it's more like 2-3 MBit/s which is still quite okay for me. And even if the network would be capable of such fast transfer rates, the speed will be reduced by the more clients use the same cell.
I also read somewhere (guess it was on SE offical site) that using HSDPA and HSUPA together will limit the download speed to 3,6 MBit/s. So you might want to switch HSUPA off and use HSDPA only - at least it's worth a try if you're sure that your operator provides such fast transfer rates. I always have both switched on.
Nice, 2-3mbps is a lot faster than i was getting...i guess i will need to try this out.
Regarding my friends laptop, maybe i should have said its win xp but it doesnt have active sync or any x1 soft installed...so maybe thats why its looks for the drivers?
Basically i was wondering if you guys knew where i could get the drivers keep them on my phone for times when im out and can get my proper internet fix
I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
I've started using WMwifirouter now though as it's easier, I don't carry a USB cable with me all the time, and you never know when it'll come in useful!
Random example... me and a couple of mates decided to learn some songs to play at our local, we had chords and lyrics for all except one, we were in a garage, my mate had his macbook, but couldn't pick up his wifi.
I started WMwifirouter and voila!
Speed wise, I usually get around 1Mbps, depending on signal etc, I've seen no difference between USB and wifi sharing.
How is the battery consumption when using WMWifiRouter, e.g. how long does the battery last? I can imagine this is the worst use-case at all, because you have WiFi active and HSDPA in parallel.
The big advantage when using an USB connection is that the battery is charging while it's connected, though the WiFi method is much more comfortable and flexible.
you do know that 7.2Mbps mega bits per sec? and not megabytes.
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I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
I've started using WMwifirouter now though as it's easier, I don't carry a USB cable with me all the time, and you never know when it'll come in useful!
Random example... me and a couple of mates decided to learn some songs to play at our local, we had chords and lyrics for all except one, we were in a garage, my mate had his macbook, but couldn't pick up his wifi.
I started WMwifirouter and voila!
Speed wise, I usually get around 1Mbps, depending on signal etc, I've seen no difference between USB and wifi sharing.
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Actually you do not need a cable, you can have the phone to act as a bluetooth modem through the internet connection sharing , no drivers required what so ever, you will need to pair your phone with the laptop first make sure, that Bluetooth PAN client is checked on the laptop, then start the internet connection sharing on the phone and make sure that you are using bluetooth PAN, and you will have instant access on your laptop, No drivers, No cables
assuming the laptop has bluetooth
wifi is much more standard, so it's handy to have.
The best part here is non of these mrthods are mutually exclusive, so you can use whichever is best for the situation. USB is handy as ICS does drain power, using wifi for it makes my X1 extremely warm...
foo said:
... using HSDPA and HSUPA together will limit the download speed to 3,6 MBit/s. So you might want to switch HSUPA off and use HSDPA only...
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You're right!
sidneylopsides said:
I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
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Yes, thats what comes up...but it wont auto install. Tried it on three laptops and they all wont work haha. I rebuilt the machines/laptops so even tho all drivers are installed (device manager)...maybe i left some out.
I was hoping somebody on the forum would know where i can find these drivers?
I know this sounds stupid...sorry
Generic NDIS is one of the system files in windows found under system32, windows will not boot even in safe mode if these drivers are not loaded, ICS works fine as far as i can tell with no extra drivers on any windows XP or later
i downloaded this;
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/NDIS/rndis.mspx
but its from 2005
I hope it works
Ive owned my x1 for about 6months, I have unlimited pda data plan but not tethering plan with my carrier. For some reason I can teather my x1 to my eeePC 901 via USB,but not BT,and get internet when Im not in a wifi spot. It does give me the BT PAN option and my devices are paired but cant get internet connection, only thru USB. Ive tried this multi times for over a month now and have not been charged any data usage or overage on my bill.
I was about to do the r3a update, but was wondering if there was any ninja fixes in this update. Id hate to lose this ability just for a little faster performance.
just use wmwifirouter bro
ActiveSync installation provides the ICS drivers
fracmo2000 said:
Yes, thats what comes up...but it wont auto install. Tried it on three laptops and they all wont work haha. I rebuilt the machines/laptops so even tho all drivers are installed (device manager)...maybe i left some out.
I was hoping somebody on the forum would know where i can find these drivers?
I know this sounds stupid...sorry
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You DO need ActiveSync to be installed before you can use your X1 for ICS.
I tested it yesterday on my Windows XP SP3 laptop: When you connect your WM6 mobile with the ICS program running on it, WinXP demands for a plain Generic NDIS driver but won't find a suitable one. But during ActiveSync installation (version 4.5 worked for me), the USB drivers are updated, and afterwards my X1 got recognized as a "Windows Mobile Internet Connection Sharing Device" or something like that.
ActiveSync is not active during ICS session, but its prior installation is mandatory for it to work.
Greetings,
MiK

New Desire Z User. Can't use connectify wifi??

So i just got the phone today. In my home I don't have a router, but my laptop is connected, so i usually use my laptop to open wireless via connectify for other wireless devices in the house.
my old sony ericsson mobile phone uses the wifi fine, so does my NDS and gf's iphone4. however my desirez does not even see the wifi network at all.
i did some googling and it seems android phones do not recognize adhoc networks?? is there some simple steps anyone can help me with now?
i have yet to root my phone, and i really dont want to buy a whole new router just for it. thanks.
For connecting your android to ad-hoc network you need to
root and patch ,but there are other ways too ,you can setup
a virtual router if you are using linux there are lots of tutorials around
that you can follow .if you are using windows 7 you can use connectify me.
you mentioned you are using connectiry did you mean
"connectify me" for windows 7 ?? because if you are using that
your phone should see the network and connect to it with no
problem, because connectify me is NOT an ad-hoc network
it act as a virtual router and thats the hole point to it.
i am using connectify on windows 7, and all my other devices see the connection except my desire Z. Connectify says the mode is Ad-Hoc, WEP.
So, I was wondering if that's why my new phone can't see it?
it's funny because a month ago my brother bought HTC Mozart (win7phone) and he couldnt use my connectify and i thought win7 sucks. well i guess it's HTC that sucks.. since my old sonyericsson and iphone can both catch the signal...
would be really great if there is easy way for me to use it..
right now i basically have to use the USB to let the phone use the internet, since i have no phone plans yet.
thunder9111 said:
i am using connectify on windows 7, and all my other devices see the connection except my desire Z. Connectify says the mode is Ad-Hoc, WEP.
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Ok this is the problem .you are running connectify in ad-hoc mode and
android doesnt support that .you need to switch the mode to access point instead of ad-hoc and then it will work without any problem.
setup connectify again and choose access point instead of ad-hoc.
oh crap i just checked, seems like my laptop doesnt have a win7 compatible device that allows me to share through access point..
sigh.. all i can do is ad-hoc sharing. are there any other ways?
thunder9111 said:
oh crap i just checked, seems like my laptop doesnt have a win7 compatible device that allows me to share through access point..
sigh.. all i can do is ad-hoc sharing. are there any other ways?
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Buy a cheap router?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
root your phone and patch it is the easiest method. You'll get other benefits from rooting, and it's quite easy now. there are walkthroughs in the development subforum.
If connectify is sharing your network as adhoc mode, is because your wifi card is not fully supported.
You can get a compatible one for few bucks.
Altenatively google a bit for ad hock enabled mods, but I havent tried that mods on DZ.
so i take my laptop to an electronic shop asking for a win7 compatible wifi card?
how much do they usually cost?
i guess this would be easier than rooting my phone n going through the modifications or buying a new router.
thunder9111 said:
so i take my laptop to an electronic shop asking for a win7 compatible wifi card?
how much do they usually cost?
i guess this would be easier than rooting my phone n going through the modifications or buying a new router.
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Just look on the connectify site for the compatible chipset list, then you can look @ebay or other online resellers to buy one.
Usually they cost less than 20/25$ but is frequent to find one for something like 5$, maybe used.
fix
replace wpa_supplicant file with this one in /system/bin/
http://www.mediafire.com/?tkxg6c0s386cnlc
make sure u have a root access. also don't forget to make a backup of your original file.

Android vs Symbiam. Modem GSM in Xperia Arc

Hi everyone,
I'm new to this android, I come from Nokia and Symbian. The first impression is that actually I found a much more evolved operating system if the goal we have integration in a portable device of the features found on a computer, management, applications, updates, multimedia experience, etc. and in which phone function as voice calls become "a more", almost tending to extición if we consider, in addition to VoIP applications, the new way to communicate pass through social networks and email, available at all times in the palm of the hand.
What we lack are more made ​​in the features we've found life on a symbian phone and still did not forget them.
What strikes me is that my work is essential to use GSM phone as a modem, ie I give my pc a dialup to connect to remote phone numbers through programs such as HyperTerminal or other programs that use this type of connection to configure remote computers attached to a GSM modem. This function is something that can be found in most mobile phones of yesteryear (no Symbian or Android or iOS, phone plain and simple). How wonderful that in my previous N96 by bluetooth connection gave me the hyperterminal connection instantly, anywhere.
Well, with my new Arc and the latest xperia android I can not get what they could do with a mobile for 6 years, how sad. It is very well the evolution of technology, but without forgetting functions that have made us reach it.
actually I came also from nokia 5800 to arc, I liked the op system and the build quality of the phone .but still missing the symbian and the nokia in a strange way!!
about your problem, I'm sorry I can't help.
but can you give me your imprison about the xperia Arc and Android in general?
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Hello,
First sorry for my way of expressing myself, I'm using the google translator.
Took 1 week on the Arc and the phone I love, is very nice and the screen is of very good quality. I feel very comfortable with the phone.
My impression with the android is welcome, it is very customizable and the market and the services offered by Google are a great asset of the system.
Although as I said I come from symbian and although you may not believe there are many features of the Nokia sitema fact missing.
Bluetooth connectivity in the arc is terrible. Bluetooth services offered by Nokia are many more: Transferring files and especially dial-up networking is the fact that most missing. For me the latter is essential to my work.
For the system, if google had been involved in the Symbian platform Nokia and hardware were up to par, I think we'd be at a different scenario.
I miss Nokia, as a phone a 10, I think his problem was the trade mark have been isolated mostly in software and hardware that the difference over its rivals is enormous. While Nokia is not able to equalize the level of hardware rivals will never succeed, even with Microsoft's system. No matter the camera to bring, we are already on stage as computers, mobile value for its CPU, graphics capabilities, RAM, storage. And Nokia is not up to it.
This is exactly why I returned my Arc after one week. Not because of the Arc itself, but because of Android. You have so many possibilities and applications and what not, but the phone basics just don't even come close to my cheap Sony Ericsson Elm...
Do you mean wireless/usb tethering?
https://market.android.com/search?q=tether&so=1&c=apps
Hello,
I refer to the use of mobile as GSM modem. That is, to empower my pc to phone calls to phone numbers remote data, for use with HyperTerminal or other current programs fully make use of this functionality.
I can do with a mobile for 6 years and not with my Arc, when I realized I could not believe that the glorious android system did not include such a basic functionality in a cell for many generations. So I say that the android is a miniPC with the added functionality to make calls. Nothing more. As a phone 0.
You want to connect your PC to the internet via your phone, to let your PC use the phone's mobile data network, correct?
This is called wireless (connect phone to PC via wifi) or USB (connect phone to PC via cable) tethering. Android does both. Check out some of the apps i linked to.
I know the tethering. But what I need is the function of modem gsm, call my pc to another mobile number.
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imo Nokia's are terrible devices, the symbian os is so outdated and will soon be fully phazed out as Nokia in their infinate wisdom have signed up with Microsoft to start providing the new Nokia's with Windows Phone 7 (why god why?) if you want to use your phone as a connection for your laptop its dead easy, follow the steps below:
Menu
> Settings
> Tethering and Portable hotspot
> ensure wifi is enabled then you can tick the portable Wi-Fi hotspot
> then search for you phone in the wireless networks from your PC and join
Thats it, I setup a connection for one of my users the other day using a Nokia e71 and its the most over complicated thing I have had to do in a while, I had to install the Ovi phone manager, then the modem software for the PC to see the device as a connecton.
Dont get me wrong Nokia's where good in their day but unforunatley their day has been and gone, long live android
victoraveiga said:
I know the tethering. But what I need is the function of modem gsm, call my pc to another mobile number.
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Ahh I se what you mean lolz, will a VPN not do the job?
I need is to use Windows HyperTerminal to communicate with remote industrial equipment through a data call, NO CONNECTION TCPIP, this in symbian is very easy because it gives me bluetooth modem service I use to call in the hyperterminal to a computer. My Arc the only service that offers me is the bluetooth handsfree. So I think that Android does not do well. Bluetooth modem service is offered by the mobile dewww 8 years ago, and now not Android or ios, that's what I mean when I say that is a step backwards
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My problems are solved if there is a hyperterminal type android application, that allows me to make calls to a remote industrial equipment (with a GSM modem connected). You know any type hyperterminal application in android?
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Try downloading PDAnet from the market and you can connect over bluetooth to the internet this might be what you are after?
I think the answer needed would be : does android support dial up networking (DUN Modem) via cable or Bluetooth??
I don't know, but currently a lot of newer device drop dial up modem support and use internet sharing (tethering) instead.
I think mobile carrier still support those old v32 modem value added service. but I'll bet it's charge by minutes at inflated rate and 9600-14400bps hscd.
still need hyper terminal though.
best luck..
Yes, PdaNet is what you need
It supports Bluetooth DUN with a computer

[Q] Windows 8 CP Wifi not working on College Campus

Hello,
I am on an HP Folio 13-1020us running the Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64 Bit. The Wifi can see the networks but it cannot connect to the schools network. I can connect off campus just fine, and I can connect without any trouble in Windows 7
This is very inconvenient for me, but its more difficult to handle considering my friends old Sony laptop has been able to successfully connect through wifi, so I know that it is not because "its just beta"
I am at Western Oregon University, where we use a WEP2 network. I have been to our IT guy and he patched me through as an exception, so theres no problem on the network end.
So far I think I have honestly read every single forum and answer to this, on campuses or not. Please if anyone has any ideas that would be great! But please don't list "Try uninstalling then reinstalling drivers, or updating them" I have the absolute latest drivers to all the components so far.
I have also tried to try the disable Mini Virtual Wifi Port, or whatever it is named, but it does not show up in my networking list.
Thank you very much!
Does your campus have an unsecured guest network? try that if it does.
pwnnoobies said:
Does your campus have an unsecured guest network? try that if it does.
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No it does not but I tried at a Starbucks. No problem whatsoever. and tried with my phone. Also working but not reliable enough on the phone end to use full time
Double-check with your college's IT department and see if they blacklist/whitelist operating systems. Could be Windows 8 CP is getting blocked by the internet security.
xfullmetal17 said:
Double-check with your college's IT department and see if they blacklist/whitelist operating systems. Could be Windows 8 CP is getting blocked by the internet security.
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Thats what I thought as well, but my friends laptop works on wifi on windows 8
Did you ever figure this out? I'm considering upgrading to Windows 8 here at BYU but we use Cisco and if my WiFi isn't going to work I can't upgrade.

[Q] Wi-fi hotspot app for a T-Mobile HD2

I have the T-Mobile (USA) version of the HTC HD2, still with the latest stock ROM, Windows Mobile 6.5.
I think I once read here that the European HD2 came with an app to use the phone's 3G connection as a wi-fi hotspot to tether other devices to. The T-Mobile USA version did not come with that though.
It didn't matter to me before. I have often tethered my laptop to the internet through the phone, but no need for wi-fi for that-- it works fine with USB or Bluetooth. (I usually use the Internet Connection Sharing applet. Occasionally dial-up networking.)
However, curious about IOS apps, and not wanting to change phone carriers and pay high monthly fees to get an Iphone, I just bought an ipod touch 4th generation to play with. It's only kind of internet connection is wi-fi. That will work when one has a wi-fi Internet connection, but one does not have that everywhere. It may have BT to connect to a headset, but I doubt it could tether through the HD2 that way. It might be possible with a couple adapters to connect the USB ports, but I doubt it would tether that way either. (If someone has found a way to do either though, to tether an IOS device through a stock ROM HD2 via BT and/or USB, please let me know.)
However, if I could find a way to make the HD2's 3G connection appear as a wi-fi hotspot, I assume that would work, to tether the Itouch with.
Is there an app I can download for my T-Mobile HD2, to use its 3G connection as a wi-fi hot spot? (Just an app. I do not have time now to deal with putting on a different ROM.) Do you have a link to it? If anyone reading has used the app, could you review how well it works?
Thank you.
Download this app or any other version of this app from Freeware Pocket PC.
T-Macgnolia said:
Download this app or any other version of this app from Freeware Pocket PC.
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Thanks, T.
Since I posted the OP, I discovered the app WMWiFiRouter.
Is this one you link to the same app with a different name, or a different app? If the latter, can anyone compare the two?
Also, since the original (not T-Mo USA) HD2 had a wifi router buoilt in, created by HTC, would that app work better on the HD2? Any way to download and install that to the T-Mo version? (again, without any ROM flashing.)
Doubt Wifi will work as HD2 will be adhoc wifi & ios device will want infrastructure wifi ...
Only way I have managed it is connecting HD2 via Win 7 Notebook (USB tether) then use Connectify on my Notebook to setup a infrastructure wifi hotspot that works with everything.
Amazes me in this day & age & level of development that we still have to jump through hoop after hoop to achieve basic functions.
Really about time the big OS developers pulled their finger out & make functional OS's that connect & share between devices with simplicity.
Amazing how even a Windows device & Windows PC alienate each other ! Microsoft could of really jumped ahead here years ago if had a bit of common sense & innovative development.
I'm sure WP8 will sort it all out ! not :-/
me said:
Thanks, T.
Since I posted the OP, I discovered the app WMWiFiRouter.
Is this one you link to the same app with a different name, or a different app? If the latter, can anyone compare the two?
Also, since the original (not T-Mo USA) HD2 had a wifi router buoilt in, created by HTC, would that app work better on the HD2? Any way to download and install that to the T-Mo version? (again, without any ROM flashing.)
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I think it is pretty much the same app as the one you found is actually the one I use to use on my HD2 back when I used Win Mo. But for some reason I could not find it, the app I linked looks just like the one I use to use. Also I think the app you found is just another version of the HTC app.
At Mister B, first it is good to see someone with your expertise in Win Mo still hanging out an helping others, have you ever concidered applying for RC status? Also I had two buddies that use to come over and connect via WiFi off my HD2 with a iPod touch and a iPhone three. So maybe not all of Apple's I products are so stupidly restrained.
Done a google on adhoc & iPhone, seems is possible, never had any luck when I tried but next time I get an iPhone volunteer willing to mess about with settings a bit more I will give it a proper go.

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