Android vs Symbiam. Modem GSM in Xperia Arc - Xperia Arc General

Hi everyone,
I'm new to this android, I come from Nokia and Symbian. The first impression is that actually I found a much more evolved operating system if the goal we have integration in a portable device of the features found on a computer, management, applications, updates, multimedia experience, etc. and in which phone function as voice calls become "a more", almost tending to extición if we consider, in addition to VoIP applications, the new way to communicate pass through social networks and email, available at all times in the palm of the hand.
What we lack are more made ​​in the features we've found life on a symbian phone and still did not forget them.
What strikes me is that my work is essential to use GSM phone as a modem, ie I give my pc a dialup to connect to remote phone numbers through programs such as HyperTerminal or other programs that use this type of connection to configure remote computers attached to a GSM modem. This function is something that can be found in most mobile phones of yesteryear (no Symbian or Android or iOS, phone plain and simple). How wonderful that in my previous N96 by bluetooth connection gave me the hyperterminal connection instantly, anywhere.
Well, with my new Arc and the latest xperia android I can not get what they could do with a mobile for 6 years, how sad. It is very well the evolution of technology, but without forgetting functions that have made us reach it.

actually I came also from nokia 5800 to arc, I liked the op system and the build quality of the phone .but still missing the symbian and the nokia in a strange way!!
about your problem, I'm sorry I can't help.
but can you give me your imprison about the xperia Arc and Android in general?
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Hello,
First sorry for my way of expressing myself, I'm using the google translator.
Took 1 week on the Arc and the phone I love, is very nice and the screen is of very good quality. I feel very comfortable with the phone.
My impression with the android is welcome, it is very customizable and the market and the services offered by Google are a great asset of the system.
Although as I said I come from symbian and although you may not believe there are many features of the Nokia sitema fact missing.
Bluetooth connectivity in the arc is terrible. Bluetooth services offered by Nokia are many more: Transferring files and especially dial-up networking is the fact that most missing. For me the latter is essential to my work.
For the system, if google had been involved in the Symbian platform Nokia and hardware were up to par, I think we'd be at a different scenario.
I miss Nokia, as a phone a 10, I think his problem was the trade mark have been isolated mostly in software and hardware that the difference over its rivals is enormous. While Nokia is not able to equalize the level of hardware rivals will never succeed, even with Microsoft's system. No matter the camera to bring, we are already on stage as computers, mobile value for its CPU, graphics capabilities, RAM, storage. And Nokia is not up to it.

This is exactly why I returned my Arc after one week. Not because of the Arc itself, but because of Android. You have so many possibilities and applications and what not, but the phone basics just don't even come close to my cheap Sony Ericsson Elm...

Do you mean wireless/usb tethering?
https://market.android.com/search?q=tether&so=1&c=apps

Hello,
I refer to the use of mobile as GSM modem. That is, to empower my pc to phone calls to phone numbers remote data, for use with HyperTerminal or other current programs fully make use of this functionality.
I can do with a mobile for 6 years and not with my Arc, when I realized I could not believe that the glorious android system did not include such a basic functionality in a cell for many generations. So I say that the android is a miniPC with the added functionality to make calls. Nothing more. As a phone 0.

You want to connect your PC to the internet via your phone, to let your PC use the phone's mobile data network, correct?
This is called wireless (connect phone to PC via wifi) or USB (connect phone to PC via cable) tethering. Android does both. Check out some of the apps i linked to.

I know the tethering. But what I need is the function of modem gsm, call my pc to another mobile number.
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imo Nokia's are terrible devices, the symbian os is so outdated and will soon be fully phazed out as Nokia in their infinate wisdom have signed up with Microsoft to start providing the new Nokia's with Windows Phone 7 (why god why?) if you want to use your phone as a connection for your laptop its dead easy, follow the steps below:
Menu
> Settings
> Tethering and Portable hotspot
> ensure wifi is enabled then you can tick the portable Wi-Fi hotspot
> then search for you phone in the wireless networks from your PC and join
Thats it, I setup a connection for one of my users the other day using a Nokia e71 and its the most over complicated thing I have had to do in a while, I had to install the Ovi phone manager, then the modem software for the PC to see the device as a connecton.
Dont get me wrong Nokia's where good in their day but unforunatley their day has been and gone, long live android

victoraveiga said:
I know the tethering. But what I need is the function of modem gsm, call my pc to another mobile number.
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Ahh I se what you mean lolz, will a VPN not do the job?

I need is to use Windows HyperTerminal to communicate with remote industrial equipment through a data call, NO CONNECTION TCPIP, this in symbian is very easy because it gives me bluetooth modem service I use to call in the hyperterminal to a computer. My Arc the only service that offers me is the bluetooth handsfree. So I think that Android does not do well. Bluetooth modem service is offered by the mobile dewww 8 years ago, and now not Android or ios, that's what I mean when I say that is a step backwards
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My problems are solved if there is a hyperterminal type android application, that allows me to make calls to a remote industrial equipment (with a GSM modem connected). You know any type hyperterminal application in android?
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Try downloading PDAnet from the market and you can connect over bluetooth to the internet this might be what you are after?

I think the answer needed would be : does android support dial up networking (DUN Modem) via cable or Bluetooth??
I don't know, but currently a lot of newer device drop dial up modem support and use internet sharing (tethering) instead.
I think mobile carrier still support those old v32 modem value added service. but I'll bet it's charge by minutes at inflated rate and 9600-14400bps hscd.
still need hyper terminal though.
best luck..

Yes, PdaNet is what you need
It supports Bluetooth DUN with a computer

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how to use the universal as a WIFI modem?

i would like to use my universal as a WIFI card when its connected to my laptop. Though my laptop has a built-in wireless card, there are times when my universal can pick up a signal and stay on it while the laptop cant.
as such, is there any possobility to link up the universal to the laptop and allow it to fuction as a WIFI card for the laptop?
are there any instructions on this? appreciate any and every help that i can get on this. thanks
For that either your laptop would need to connect to the Exec through BT dial up, or the Exec would need to act as an Access Point plus Bridge. Not very likely to happen. BT is very slow, so I'd think you should scrap that idea.
I am surprised to hear that your laptop has an even worse WiFi antenna than the Exec. I thought this was already the worst possible... My old iPAQ 6315 has a much better reception.
Humm, I'm not sure. I went to a microsoft confrence on mobility and the new features of Windows Mobile 5 a few months (year or so?) back, and asked this exact question. I was told that it's impossible, the operating system simply doesn't do that- something about the fact that it deals with the phone part very differently from the way it deals with the wifi part.
...maybe you should go give a hand on the linux port?
i am surprised too that my laptop has worst wifi connection than my exec but this is only applicable when i am in school. in public areas, connections on my laptop are pretty good and stable.
i wish i could help with the linux but i am not sure how to even start coz i am not a programmer. what would be required of me?

O2 Mobile Broadband via Phone to Laptop

Having looked at the list of Mobile Broadband offering operators on http://www.ispreview.co.uk/list.shtml I ended up going with O2 because I was already an existing mobile user, otherwise I might have chosen Three for the price. Now I have a problem though because for various reasons I'd like to use my ETen X800 Windows Mobile 6 PDA Phone as a modem for the HSPA connection to my laptop, is this possible? I can have the HSPA service added to my phone but don't know how to share it via Wi-Fi with my laptop.
Mind you, I haven't tried Bluetooth yet but I tend to find Bluetooth irritating to configure, the laptops client software isn't very logical.
you can find more using the forum search in the networking forum and search modem
though dont know if htc stuff apply to eten
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=239552&highlight=modem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=218252&highlight=modem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=218524&highlight=modem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=260128&highlight=modem

How to use G1 to tether to Palm, Windows Mobile? Configs?

Hey all, on my Nokia s60s I used to be able to bluetooth tether to palm (My Zodiac 2) and Windows Mobile platforms. On Palm I had to use a script and AT commands to work right. Has something like this been done to the G1 yet? I know Windows Mobile I could just use anetshare (Which is my main setup basically) and get online. (Palm could do same)
However the reason I ask for a alternative way is because I learned from using the iphone tethered to the G1 is that the config is off. The iphone for example EXPECTS the internet to be FAST (Since it assumes your on a real wifi. Not a Wifi with the speed of a 56k) which as you know on a PC you can set TCP connections and timesouts etc to fit your connection profile.
When the product in question is dialing or tethering via bluetooth modem method, it seems to run a lil smoother as it understands what speed to expect.
Anyways just wondering. I like to be configured for all situations. =)

[Q] Wi-fi hotspot app for a T-Mobile HD2

I have the T-Mobile (USA) version of the HTC HD2, still with the latest stock ROM, Windows Mobile 6.5.
I think I once read here that the European HD2 came with an app to use the phone's 3G connection as a wi-fi hotspot to tether other devices to. The T-Mobile USA version did not come with that though.
It didn't matter to me before. I have often tethered my laptop to the internet through the phone, but no need for wi-fi for that-- it works fine with USB or Bluetooth. (I usually use the Internet Connection Sharing applet. Occasionally dial-up networking.)
However, curious about IOS apps, and not wanting to change phone carriers and pay high monthly fees to get an Iphone, I just bought an ipod touch 4th generation to play with. It's only kind of internet connection is wi-fi. That will work when one has a wi-fi Internet connection, but one does not have that everywhere. It may have BT to connect to a headset, but I doubt it could tether through the HD2 that way. It might be possible with a couple adapters to connect the USB ports, but I doubt it would tether that way either. (If someone has found a way to do either though, to tether an IOS device through a stock ROM HD2 via BT and/or USB, please let me know.)
However, if I could find a way to make the HD2's 3G connection appear as a wi-fi hotspot, I assume that would work, to tether the Itouch with.
Is there an app I can download for my T-Mobile HD2, to use its 3G connection as a wi-fi hot spot? (Just an app. I do not have time now to deal with putting on a different ROM.) Do you have a link to it? If anyone reading has used the app, could you review how well it works?
Thank you.
Download this app or any other version of this app from Freeware Pocket PC.
T-Macgnolia said:
Download this app or any other version of this app from Freeware Pocket PC.
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Thanks, T.
Since I posted the OP, I discovered the app WMWiFiRouter.
Is this one you link to the same app with a different name, or a different app? If the latter, can anyone compare the two?
Also, since the original (not T-Mo USA) HD2 had a wifi router buoilt in, created by HTC, would that app work better on the HD2? Any way to download and install that to the T-Mo version? (again, without any ROM flashing.)
Doubt Wifi will work as HD2 will be adhoc wifi & ios device will want infrastructure wifi ...
Only way I have managed it is connecting HD2 via Win 7 Notebook (USB tether) then use Connectify on my Notebook to setup a infrastructure wifi hotspot that works with everything.
Amazes me in this day & age & level of development that we still have to jump through hoop after hoop to achieve basic functions.
Really about time the big OS developers pulled their finger out & make functional OS's that connect & share between devices with simplicity.
Amazing how even a Windows device & Windows PC alienate each other ! Microsoft could of really jumped ahead here years ago if had a bit of common sense & innovative development.
I'm sure WP8 will sort it all out ! not :-/
me said:
Thanks, T.
Since I posted the OP, I discovered the app WMWiFiRouter.
Is this one you link to the same app with a different name, or a different app? If the latter, can anyone compare the two?
Also, since the original (not T-Mo USA) HD2 had a wifi router buoilt in, created by HTC, would that app work better on the HD2? Any way to download and install that to the T-Mo version? (again, without any ROM flashing.)
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I think it is pretty much the same app as the one you found is actually the one I use to use on my HD2 back when I used Win Mo. But for some reason I could not find it, the app I linked looks just like the one I use to use. Also I think the app you found is just another version of the HTC app.
At Mister B, first it is good to see someone with your expertise in Win Mo still hanging out an helping others, have you ever concidered applying for RC status? Also I had two buddies that use to come over and connect via WiFi off my HD2 with a iPod touch and a iPhone three. So maybe not all of Apple's I products are so stupidly restrained.
Done a google on adhoc & iPhone, seems is possible, never had any luck when I tried but next time I get an iPhone volunteer willing to mess about with settings a bit more I will give it a proper go.

Switch back to cellular when wifi has no internet, but keep wifi connected

tl;dr: When my phone (Sony Xperia Z5 compact, Android 6) connects to a wifi with no internet, I want to use the local network on the wifi but use the internet from my mobile data. Instead what happens mobile data doesn't switch back on while connected to wifi with no internet.
I have been trying to find a solution for this since forever. My camera creates a local wifi connection which I can connect to to view the camera as well as controlling it. The downside is that while connected to this network my cellular data gets switched off, despite this wifi network not having any internet. So while using my camera I have no way to access the internet. It wasn't a huge problem up until recently when the app I use is introducing livestreaming. I really want to use it but I am unable to find any way how to keep my phone connected to this wifi network (and being able to use it), while any internet data goes over 4G. I am using android 6.0.1. I am quite sure I was able to do this on my previous phone with an older Android version but I cannot find said option (smart network switch or something?) anymore in the wifi settings. Nor any recent similar topics with people with the same question? Anyone that knows more about this?
My phone is rooted. If I need to do any system changes I can do that.
I didnt get what you were trying saying.Do you know that you cant use mobile data and wifi simultaneously unless your device is rooted.If your phone is rooted then try using "download booster"
hh950430 said:
I didnt get what you were trying saying.Do you know that you cant use mobile data and wifi simultaneously unless your device is rooted.
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Err, sorry, lol. I have wifi network that has no internet, just a local network. I'd like to be connected to that wifi network AND be able to use internet over my mobile data both at the same time. As it is right now, my mobile data gets disabled even when the wifi network has no internet access.
I have talked to two friends of mine about it and both say this is already possible in Android. One friend sent me a screenshot of an option he has in his wifi settings called 'Switch to mobile data' which gets enabled when the wifi network has no internet. My other friend said he doesn't have this option but claims it has been a default feature of Android since lollipop. He tested it on his phone and indeed it works as expected. Both have an unrooted phone with stock Android. So now there is me with my brand new phone and Android 6 and I can't find this option nor does it seem to do what I want by default. I'm confused.
As I mentioned, my phone is rooted so if there is a way to turn this feature on using root, I can totally do that if someone knows how.
As i said try using "Download Booster" It allows you to use wifi and mobile data at the same time just google it.
hh950430 said:
As i said try using "Download Booster" It allows you to use wifi and mobile data at the same time just google it.
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That appears to be just a download manager if I am correct? I don't need to download anything. I just want to be able to use my existing apps to use my mobile internet when I am connected to wifi (that has no internet).
This is the exactly the thing I'm after. Screenshot from my friend's phone (LG G4 with Android 6.0): (*link removed). My other friend who also has this functionality working has a Nexus 5 with Android 6.0.1.
* Forum doesn't let me post screenshots.. But basically in his wifi settings he has an option called "Switch to mobile data". The box says "Internet unavailable via connected Wi-Fi. Stay connected to Wi-Fi, but use mobile data. Data charges may apply."
Again, I have Sony Xperia Z5 compact with Android 6.0.1 and I can't find this. Have I bought the wrong phone or is it fixable? At this point I am more than happy to even take a custom rom route.
You cannot use wifi and internet at the same time as they are completely different hardware components, using different air waves, so there's no conflicts between them. Better use internet through your wifi or use bluetooth tethering.As for the "switch to mobile data option" it disconnectes you from your wifi if it has no internet and connects you to your mobile data so it doesnt lets you use your wifi and mobile data at the same time
hh950430 said:
You cannot use wifi and internet at the same time as they are completely different hardware components, using different air waves, so there's no conflicts between them. Better use internet through your wifi or use bluetooth tethering.As for the "switch to mobile data option" it disconnectes you from your wifi if it has no internet and connects you to your mobile data so it doesnt lets you use your wifi and mobile data at the same time
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It actually clearly mentions that it keeps connected to the wifi. He tested it and indeed he could use the local network on the wifi side and use the internet through his mobile data simultaneously. Both friends haven't rooted their phones or anything. This is just a default functionality for them. I have now tested it also on my older phones (Oneplus One and HTC One M8) and all phones can't have both connections open at the same time.
This wifi network is created by my camera by the way and I can't change much about it. The DJI drone I control does the same thing. When I am connected to the camera or drone I lose my mobile internet connection.
I don't have any other device that has access to internet here. We don't have cabled internet, only mobile internet.
Interestingly, in the developers options there is an option called "Mobile data always active" ("Always keep mobile data active, even when Wi-Fi is active"). I've tried it many times, rebooted my phone but this doesn't actually do anything. Even with this option on when wifi is connected the mobile data gets turned off.
This is beyond annoying!
I too have struggled to find a solution to this problem. I do not have a WAN connection to my home network. It is LAN only. I have four PC's, three Sonos speakers, two hdhomerun TV tuners, and various hand held devices that all use the LAN. All I want to do is be able to use my Moto X Pure to control Sonos and file sync to my LAN via wifi and simultaneously use mobile data for WAN stuff. I know the mobile connection is active with wifi enabled because I can see it when running if config, up route show etc... I am trying to learn about the routing tables to see if I can fix this myself. I love my android devices and am loyal, but this is beyond dumb! Any suggestions????
How to fix for android
okay so for anyone who doesnt know still go into the about phone option in your phone settings, then click on kernel version, build model, etc til one pops up with a flash notification saying click so many more times and youll become a dev. once you done that go into the developer menu and scroll too wifi assist or force mobile data upon wifi connection. exit out , open your app , bobs your uncle
Thank you for the answer.
I tried with my Huawei but it doesn't work. Could you tell with which phone you made it work ? Thank you !!
Ok here we go, after 12 years this my first post.
Above suggestions related with developer options nothing to do with OPs requirement. Those option only allows the device rapidly switch to mobile data when the WiFi signal gets weak. Since you always close to your DSLR camera it solves nothing because WiFi signal is always strong.
Root cause of the problem is you can not have 2 default gateways (i.e. router address) for your networks in any operating system (Actually you can but you have to set static routes, which is a pain in the ass for regular users)
iOS handles this in a very simple way. Set your wifi connection to static IP address instead of DHCP and leave your default gateway or router address blank. Viola you can have 3G/LTE data while you connected your camera and now you can sent your downloaded pictures via Whatapp while you still connected to your camera via WiFi. (In my case Panasonic Lumix)
I stumbled upon this thread via Google since I needed the same thing now with Android. But iOS way failed. Actually I am shocked that you cannot leave WiFi Gateway address blank in Androdid 8.0! Save button grays out if you leave it blank. This is really weird. At least with Galaxy S8 Duos with Android 8.0
So anybody know how to setup a WiFi network without a default gateway, please share.
Is this phone specific or something? Never had that happen, I have no problem with wifi being on without internet and using cell data.
I don't think the UI really exposes anything like it directly but you can technically have multiple gateways; it's not something your average user will understand (policy routing)..
Having said that, if you're attached to an AP you should at least see a /24 route out your wireless interface (standard dhcp lease). It's quite common for the AP to have client isolation but are you sure you're not using something like Wifi Direct or even adhoc?
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I have been through this experience long ago. All I did was to sell the phone and bought a new one.

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