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Considering the Nexus 4 - What are its major flaws?

I currently have a Nexus S which I have had for 2 years now. I'm considering the Nexus 4, was going for the S4 but this is half the price, and the iPhone 6 would be too far out and the iOS would not be to my liking.
I know I cannot really go wrong with the Nexus 4 - it's loved by every reviewer, and not because of its price - the price is only a bonus.
What are its major flaws? I have a few things I was curious about:
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. When your finger touches/swipes on the screen, does it behave like an iPhone 5 or the Galaxy S3/4/Note II devices? I personally like the sensitivity to your finger from the iPhone and Samsung's Galaxy devices. I don't have this in my current Nexus S but definitely would like it in my next phone.
- Battery life. Can it last 14-16 hours, with let's say, 2-3 hours of screen time or so?
- Camera. I've seen some sample pictures, was not too impressed, but as long as it's decent I'm fine.
- Headphone output? I heard the headphone output is lower than other devices from a video. Not sure if significant.
That's all for now. :good:

Just wait for the Nexus 5. Only 3-4 months away.

Tbh I've considered that, but it'll be announced in October, released in December, and if I want it with my carrier it'll probably hit in perhaps March/April of 2014, unless I choose to buy it from the Play Store.
I also heard it packs in a lot, and I think Google's going to price it high this time around. Either way, my current carrier is offering the N4 16GB for only $300 outright. So its price seems lower than market value, and it for some reason is hard for me to wait.

I upgraded from by Galaxy S (Same as the Nexus S) in Feb.
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. I would say the same, hard to notice the difference.
- Battery life. 5+ hrs on screen time with WiFi on (I dont have data so thats not in use). It was a definate improvement from Galaxy S.
- Camera. There is a mod floating around that allows you to get better quality pictures at the cost of a larger file size.
- Sound. NOTHING beat Galaxy S's sound chip. I was disappointed a bit here.
- Overall animation/fluidity/framerate. Stock android on N4, even the most overclocked Galaxy S with the most slimmed rom cannot come close to these speeds.
- Size. I like smaller phones that fit into my pocket easier. Galaxy S wins here but thats a personal choice. HD videos play exactly to scale on the N4, you just feel immersed.
- Physical features. You can't drop it, glass on both sides, bumpers/cases probably won't do anything. It's also heavier. No removable battery or SD card. I made the mistake of getting the 8GB, dont. Doesn't feel plasticky/cheap like the Galaxy S.
ROM support is very nice here, I think it's just as good as when Galaxy S was in it's prime.
You have to get it, try getting it through your provider ($300 in canada for the 16Gb via koodo whereas $366 shipped from goolge for the 8Gb)

OnlySkills said:
Tbh I've considered that, but it'll be announced in October, released in December, and if I want it with my carrier it'll probably hit in perhaps March/April of 2014, unless I choose to buy it from the Play Store.
I also heard it packs in a lot, and I think Google's going to price it high this time around. Either way, my current carrier is offering the N4 16GB for only $300 outright. So its price seems lower than market value, and it for some reason is hard for me to wait.
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Buying from Play Store is better anyway, at least for T Mobile USA.
What can the Nexus 4 do that your Nexus S can't? The Nexus 5 will be even better than the Nexus 4 on all scales. It is rumored to be based off the LG G2 which will have stereo speakers, bigger screen, improved camera, and much more. Maybe even launched with Key Lime Pie(?)
Just wait for it.

1. Low earpiece/mic
2. Camera speed slower than GN, need to be very steady for HDR
3. Storage can be challenging to manage, we need 32/64 nexus...
4. MTP is slow in general, and touchscreen goes crazy when charging from my PC
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Ace42 said:
1. Low earpiece/mic
2. Camera speed slower than GN, need to be very steady for HDR
3. Storage can be challenging to manage, we need 32/64 nexus...
4. MTP is slow in general, and touchscreen goes crazy when charging from my PC
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My touchscreen never goes crazy when charging from a PC.

i had a nexus s for long time, loved that thing. yes, it does have great sound, especially with voodoo, but the nexus s is merely a childs toy compared to the nexus 4. heck, the galaxy nexus was a large step from the nexus s. you will love the nexus 4. coming from two samsung phones in a row(ns and gnex), i first thought that not having a plastic back was the nexus 4s' major flaw, but now i dont mind
oh, and some photos, all hdr mode..
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Touch sensitivity is quite good for an android device similar to the nexus s, but the nexus 4 has lower touch sensitivity than it is capable of because of the touchscreen drivers, this problem has supposedly been fixed in the upcoming android 4.3 update but honestly touch response is very good you won't have a problem.
As for battery expect 4-5 hours sot on WiFi and 3-4 hours on 3g.
Photos in good lighting conditions are quite good but in low light its another story so if you take pictures in good light you'll be okay.
I find the sound output to be fairly reasonable its quite loud I don't think you'll have a problem with it unless you need to drive something huge with a high impedance, for normal headphones/earphones its loud enough.

Roastmeat said:
I upgraded from by Galaxy S (Same as the Nexus S) in Feb.
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. I would say the same, hard to notice the difference.
- Battery life. 5+ hrs on screen time with WiFi on (I dont have data so thats not in use). It was a definate improvement from Galaxy S.
- Camera. There is a mod floating around that allows you to get better quality pictures at the cost of a larger file size.
- Sound. NOTHING beat Galaxy S's sound chip. I was disappointed a bit here.
- Overall animation/fluidity/framerate. Stock android on N4, even the most overclocked Galaxy S with the most slimmed rom cannot come close to these speeds.
- Size. I like smaller phones that fit into my pocket easier. Galaxy S wins here but thats a personal choice. HD videos play exactly to scale on the N4, you just feel immersed.
- Physical features. You can't drop it, glass on both sides, bumpers/cases probably won't do anything. It's also heavier. No removable battery or SD card. I made the mistake of getting the 8GB, dont. Doesn't feel plasticky/cheap like the Galaxy S.
ROM support is very nice here, I think it's just as good as when Galaxy S was in it's prime.
You have to get it, try getting it through your provider ($300 in canada for the 16Gb via koodo whereas $366 shipped from goolge for the 8Gb)
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You can drop it with a bumper on and screen protectors. I dropped mine onto concrete and accidentally stepped on it. Lol its perfectly fine except for the scratch on my screen protector
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Gets extremely hot when gaming. I'm not sure whether this causes damage, but it makes me sweat on the device.
Both 3G and Wifi have connection issues. This may be fixed in software, but I'm not sure.
Speaker sound isn't as good as some other phones.
Being totally flat, it sits flush on a surface and the speaker is covered, muting notification sounds.
Being made of glass, there's twice as much breakable surface.

I upgraded my Nexus S for the N4 about the time it launched, so I know how slow it must be getting.
While its not perfect, I wouldn't trade it for anything on the market. It's a nexus device, which has the major benefit of being the first to be updated and having more stable ROMs, which you will miss from other devices.
The battery is not as good as I would have hoped for, but it will get me through the day as long as I'm not using it constantly. With mobile data on, I can get 2 hours of SOT (Screen on Time) if I wasn't playing games.
On the topic of the screen, I can tell you that the stock color calibration is extremely washed out. It's a good screen, they just botched the calibration. I remember looking at it for the first time and being really disappointed because of the faded look of colors like blue. This is something that is easily fixed by a non-stock kernel like Franco's Kernel, which is the one I use. The calibration I have right now looks amazing.
While the headphone output is quiet by the standards of most phones, I don't notice it unless I plug it into something like external speakers, or my car.
Also, it's probably worth noting that the 4.3 update that was leaked yesterday is supposed to drastically improve touch sensitivity.
and I would probably wait until at least the 24th of July on the off chance that Google announces lower pricing or a higher capacity version.

Touch Pretty darn smooth. Without a screen protector that is. But even with a sp you'll be able to swipe like no other. Response is top notch and definitely on par with new released phones. (Just my opinion)
Battery If you're a heavy user the battery might slack. If you're an addict, don't get this phone lol. But if you're able to balance data / running apps / screen time / etc. this phone will be perfect. (Choose the right rom & kernel, or just stay stock with a nice kernel)
Camera I don't use it that much but its alright, not the best out there. If you're some fancy photographer I doubt you'll be satisfied. But still takes pretty nice pictures as long as you take it right
Headphone I literally listen to music all day if I'm out of my house. No doubt the output is nice and clear, but it all depends on what type of headphones you're using.
This phone isn't a super computer. It lags when it needs to and produces slight flaws as you use it. But then again, what electronic doesn't
In the end, it all depends on the user's preferences. But if anything, I'd recommend waiting for the N5.

One of the most annoying things about the N4 is undoubtedly the fact that notifications etc cannot be heard when the phone lies flat with the screen up. Many calls have been missed due to this fact...

lazer155 said:
My touchscreen never goes crazy when charging from a PC.
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When I touch in one spot it reacts like I hit another location.

I have to say, it is SLIPPY. It slips off everthing, even when i think its a flat surface!

OnlySkills said:
I currently have a Nexus S which I have had for 2 years now. I'm considering the Nexus 4, was going for the S4 but this is half the price, and the iPhone 6 would be too far out and the iOS would not be to my liking.
I know I cannot really go wrong with the Nexus 4 - it's loved by every reviewer, and not because of its price - the price is only a bonus.
What are its major flaws? I have a few things I was curious about:
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. When your finger touches/swipes on the screen, does it behave like an iPhone 5 or the Galaxy S3/4/Note II devices? I personally like the sensitivity to your finger from the iPhone and Samsung's Galaxy devices. I don't have this in my current Nexus S but definitely would like it in my next phone.
- Battery life. Can it last 14-16 hours, with let's say, 2-3 hours of screen time or so?
- Camera. I've seen some sample pictures, was not too impressed, but as long as it's decent I'm fine.
- Headphone output? I heard the headphone output is lower than other devices from a video. Not sure if significant.
That's all for now. :good:
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Do u run custom Roms/kernels on the nexus s?
If you want the same experience x100 then the nexus 4 is for u.
I went from a nexus s to a nexus 4 and I'm more than happy. Android + iOS smoothness.
Flaws:
The touchscreen unresponsiveness is not major (very soft touches don't register sometimes) and it is remedied with either a custom kernel in 4.2.2 or with the upcoming 4.3 (new touchscreen driver).
Screen colors are a bit washed, but with the same solutions as above screen is beautiful.
The phone is made of glass, so it is not as resilient to falls as the nexus s.
Some people experience notification delays on specific WiFi routers. Never had such problem myself.
The phone tends to get hot when in mobile network or under heavy use (because its glass). Can be solved with custom kernels, undervolting/underclocking (this is the most tweakable phone ever).
No issues with audio.
Camera is good. Not the best, but acceptable quality.
Battery life is typically between 4 to 6 hours screen on time, on WiFi, which is pretty good in my opinion.
P.s. this phone offers the smoothest android experience from every other phone I put my hands on.
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urmothersluvr said:
You can drop it with a bumper on and screen protectors. I dropped mine onto concrete and accidentally stepped on it. Lol its perfectly fine except for the scratch on my screen protector
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I dropped mine without bumper and just got a few scratches
btw is an awesome phone

I wouldn't wait for n5 as it's rumored to have a 5" screen which I feel is too large.
Here's a pic I took with the phone
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Overdose1986 said:
I dropped mine without bumper and just got a few scratches
btw is an awesome phone
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dropped my 4 times because it keeps slipping down the table only slight scratch on the back glass
only around 2-3 ft

Moto X Pros/Cons IMO

Moto X Cons/Pros IMO
Hi, this can be a base for new Moto X users coming from other smartphones.
Pros
1. Moto X has one of the smoothest and fastest Android experience you'll have with any smartphone today.
If you're coming from a non-nexus smartphone, you'll definitely feel that. Everything just works in Moto X. It's the smartphone with the nearest experience of an iPhone in terms of speed and smoothness.
2. Moto X feels great in hand. It has the perfect size for a smartphone.
3. Screen size is perfect, you can reach every corner without a hassle.
Although some users might feel the difference coming from a bigger screen, you'll definately get used to it in no time.
4. Good materials, it feels like you're holding a really well made product. Not just plastic stuff.
5. Twist to fast access to camera is great.
I'm still getting used to it, but accessing the camera without even touching the screen is very handy. I thought it would be too much of a hassle to do that movement every time, but it turns out you get used to it very fast, and that's pretty easy.
6. Touchless Control.
Although it's almost useless here in Brazil, I'll include that because is it's really useful for the main languages that it includes. I still use it to showoff though. :victory:
7. The speaker is one of the best I've listened so far.
It's one of the loudest, its quality is pretty good. Basses are good too.
8. Battery life is superb.
It lasts for your entire day and even a little bit more. Compared to my last phone, a S3, I can really feel the difference.
9. Battery charges really fast.
Within 2 hours or so, my Moto X charges from 0% to 100% with stock wall charger. Considering its battery time, it's an amazingly fast charge: 2 hours charge for a 24h+ usage. My S3 used to charge in 5h+
10. Fast updates.
This is not something that will certainly happen, but it seems Motorola is committed to bring us Android OS updates and improvements updates really quickly. Although it has not been released for my Moto X here in Brazil yet, it's been released for the Moto X faster than the Nexus devices. Let's hope they keep it like that for some years, and not just because it's the momentum smartphone.
11. Active Notifications.
The best thing invented after the wheel, don't have to say anything about this.
Cons
1. Onscreen buttons takes too much space.
Although Moto X screen size is perfect, its virtual buttons takes a lot of that space, and you might feel a big hit when coming from a 4.8/5" phone that has its entire dedicated screen.
2. Camera is terrible.
Coming from a S3, I definitely felt a big hit here. Camera takes a big time to shoot photos; it takes too long to focus; it takes pics with different tonality every time, it's even hard to shoot 2 similar photos from 2 different angles. Below is an example of that.
Camera software is not the best aswell. We don't have night mode, quality/px choice, effects, and so on.
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Those 2 pics are not edited and were shot with the Moto X camera in practically the same moment.
3. Touchless Control doesn't work everywhere.
For example in Brazil, not all the commands are available and it's just useful to call for someone and check weather predictions. Despite using it to call for someone, we don't get audio feedback for any of the commands.
4. Too thin for 2 hands usage?
That's a real real personal thought, but although Moto X has the perfect size for a one-hand feel, I'm really having a hard time typing in the keyboard and I wouldn't blame if it was a little wider. The phone is thinner than the S3, that I used to rest both hands and type, and wider than a smartphone that we can rest one hand and use the other sidewards.
But I'm really sure it's something I'll get used to within some time.
5. No sdcard slot.
I'm yet to see if this will be really a down vote to me on Moto X, but at least in my old S3, I had to use a 16gb sdcard to store some extra musics and pics. The default 16gb was not sufficient.
Well, that's it. It's a really great phone and it was for sure a great improvement coming from a S3. I do miss S3's camera and physical buttons, but despite that and the listed above, there's nothing else I can blame this phone for.
Feel free to add your own opinions, cons and pros.

I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
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Royalfox said:
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Yes, I'm using the lastest Jelly Bean OTA update and the lastest camera update from the Play Store.

I've added 1 item to the con and 1 to the pros that I forgot to mention.

Royalfox said:
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
Sent from my Nexus 7
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I used a demo at the store (one had kitkat and one didn't), and the kitkat one was SO much better. I think this camera really competes with the other flagships now.
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Yes, I'm using the lastest Jelly Bean OTA update and the lastest camera update from the Play Store.
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He means Kitkat i think.

@op great pros and cons list.
My pros:
- active display
- great feel in hand
- touchless control is really impressive (even works when the phone is in your pocket and you have headphones plugged in)
- battery life
- speaker
- performance
- call quality
- twist to launcher the camera
Cons:
- display is way too over saturated
- phone is heavier than I thought
- The camera is probably the worst I have used from all the other flagship phones this year, it really is a joke.
- locked boot loader.
This phone does the phone functionalities extremely well though I must say.
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Please explain how are you cooking those hot dogs. They look delicious.
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barondebxl said:
@op great pros and cons list.
My pros:
- active display
- great feel in hand
- touchless control is really impressive (even works when the phone is in your pocket and you have headphones plugged in)
- battery life
- speaker
- performance
- call quality
- twist to launcher the camera
Cons:
- display is way too over saturated
- phone is heavier than I thought
- The camera is probably the worst I have used from all the other flagship phones this year, it really is a joke.
- locked boot loader.
This phone does the phone functionalities extremely well though I must say.
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I'm not sure if the S3 boot loader is locked aswell, but we had a lot more hacks, mods and roms to use/test on the S3 than o the Moto X.
EVOSerb said:
Please explain how are you cooking those hot dogs. They look delicious.
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It was my GF actually. I shall ask to her how she cooked that

Please do ask. Now just to find the one for my self that will cook like that LOL.
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Tottaly agree! Mostly in the voice commands, in Brasil is not useful like in the US
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Thanks OP for sharing your experience. I'd just like to elaborate on the design.
I don't really quite know how to summarize my idea, but the emphasis on user experience is so great, it's borderline criminal, and it's easily the most understated feature of the Moto X. The texture of the back feels extremely wonderful to hold that doesn't feel like cheap plastic nor cold hard aluminium. The contours (?) of the phone is curved in such a way that feels absolutely comfortable - I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola took the palm/hand profiles of many people and designed the back with it. In conjunction with that, the buttons are positioned well enough to allow me to reach for them whenever I need it. And that dent on the back cover! My finger now gravitates to that point to get a solid grab on the phone. _Finally_ I have a phone that doesn't have to depend on aluminium for that premium feel, or worse still, give UX design a middle finger and design a pile of manure (*coughsamsungcough*) for use.
I was really pleasantly surprised to find out for myself how good the speaker was. It's loud, but distortion is hardly noticeable at maximum volume. (Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I suppose I get a bit too excited. heh) The camera's been improving steadily, thankfully, but it could use more repairs. I would appreciate it very much if I could take photos faster - the idea of twist-to-camera is kinda wasted on a slow-responding camera like this.
I have friends using the Nexus 5 beside me, and in all honesty I don't feel like I'm missing out on much. Then again, I paid a bloody premium for the phone . But seriously speaking, no regrets. At all. If I had to make the decision all over again, I'd still shoot for the Moto X. Never mind that there's no support for LTE in Malaysia or Singapore (I alternate between these two countries most frequently), or that the SD card slot is missing. I have not been so contented with a purchase in a very, very long time.

For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger

sravanz said:
For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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I agree. Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, the plug doesn't seem to go in as firmly as the GNex did. I would have loved wireless charging, as well.

sravanz said:
For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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I agree. Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, the plug doesn't seem to go in as firmly as the GNex did. I would have loved wireless charging, as well.
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I believe a member is working on making it work on his in the accessories section.

What are the chances of a QI case being released? I would be all for that.
Cannot believe incipio decided to make a powermat charging case... WHO USES POWERMAT!?

My biggest and only real complaint about the Moto X is the camera. It does not feel like it matches up to even some 2011 phone cameras.

Nice Article.
I'm loving my Moto X 'Argentina Edition' (no root yet ).
On the 'Cons 4' section I swipe a lot, and never again hold my phoine with 2 hands
While driving I can text with the mic, not sure on portuguese, but spanish works great!

OK Google Now
is so much more sensitive in 4.4. I'm using the nexus 5 gel and my phone is constantly beeping and googling my last few words. Kinda strange

I'm still on 4.2.2 but I would have to say the camera, the smaller screen size, and the color saturation of the screen.
I bought a nexus 5 earlier this month and switch between the two phones all the time. {Google apps sync everything} and those would be my main complaints. Obviously the screen size is completely subjective, but I much prefer the n5 screen. I do like the battery life, but I usually have a charger at work and at home, and both phones seem to give me more than acceptable battery life.
The biggest complaint I have is the lack of accessories, cases and screen protectors for it.
I also would like our Canadian carriers to hurry up with the 4.4 updates.
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[Q] Coming from a Note 2 - What can i expect?

Hi all,
I am new to the LG community but not the android community, and have had a host of (mainly) samsung phones over the last few years
My most recent phone was an s4 which i hated and promptly sold. I Still had my previous Note 2 which had much better battery life, sound quality, and just ran better overall
I have been running the note 2 now since the day it was released with a variety of ROM's and overall it has continued to be a great phone. Sound quality is great with the Wolfson DAC, battery life is good, and i actually like the size
My beef with the S4 was that the screen felt much smaller, it had hissy audio and lacked the dynamics of the Note, and just felt very buggy
About a year ago i cracked the screen on my Note but have continued to use it anyway. I actually liked it enough where i preferred it over the brand new s4. However, the cracks are starting to get worse and i am finally nearing the point where i am ready for the new phone
The g2 seems to offer everything i am looking for. Good battery life, a decent sized screed etc
My main questions are regarding the mixed reviews of sound quality. Some say good, some say good with different music players etc.
One of the main things i use the phone for is media so i can't have something that sounds terrible or i'm going to regret my purchase and go back to the broken note 2. Also, the battery life is a big deal so does anyone else have experience with both phones that can give me a bit of their perspective regarding these things? I really hated my s4 and just don't want to waste another upgrade on something if i don't like it more

manbeer said:
Hi all,
I am new to the LG community but not the android community, and have had a host of (mainly) samsung phones over the last few years
My most recent phone was an s4 which i hated and promptly sold. I Still had my previous Note 2 which had much better battery life, sound quality, and just ran better overall
I have been running the note 2 now since the day it was released with a variety of ROM's and overall it has continued to be a great phone. Sound quality is great with the Wolfson DAC, battery life is good, and i actually like the size
My beef with the S4 was that the screen felt much smaller, it had hissy audio and lacked the dynamics of the Note, and just felt very buggy
About a year ago i cracked the screen on my Note but have continued to use it anyway. I actually liked it enough where i preferred it over the brand new s4. However, the cracks are starting to get worse and i am finally nearing the point where i am ready for the new phone
The g2 seems to offer everything i am looking for. Good battery life, a decent sized screed etc
My main questions are regarding the mixed reviews of sound quality. Some say good, some say good with different music players etc.
One of the main things i use the phone for is media so i can't have something that sounds terrible or i'm going to regret my purchase and go back to the broken note 2. Also, the battery life is a big deal so does anyone else have experience with both phones that can give me a bit of their perspective regarding these things? I really hated my s4 and just don't want to waste another upgrade on something if i don't like it more
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Oops, didn't see the Q&A section. n00b maistakes!

Well i moved from note 2 to g2. At first g2 felt little small but now I got used to it. Battery life is awesome, I would say that it is better than it was when I used note 2. About audio it is Ok. Can't tell much because i don't listen to music that often. And when i do I use headphones.
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G2 feels much smaller due to presence of the touch keys on screen. Note 2 has separate soft touch keys.
Sound quality is good after doing the sound test.
Why don't you get your Note 2 screen replaced and sell it when LG releases G3 in 2-3 months?

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I listen to alot of music g2 stock has terrible sound but flash a custom rom and kernel and it sounds really good
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If you're into note taking, don't worry, they got you covered. The Notebook app works quite a bit like S Note, and even better, actually works supririsngly well with a finger or one of those soft styluses.
Interface-wise, LG's interface looks an awful lot like Samsung's in places, so you'll be right at home. Its a bit more Holo-inspired than TouchWiz though, but with some twists (well, they at least kept the grey and neon blue colors, except much of the black got replaced by white).
Battery life is absolutely insane. Under average use, it will get you through a day, if not more. Sound; well, apparently it's supposed to support high bitrate FLAC audio. It's also got a customizable toolbar that pops up on the bottom of the screen when you plug in headphones, so you can go right to a music/media app.

I have just got a g2 for myself. Coming from rooted Samsung Galaxy S with wolfson DAC with DSP manager coupled with Ultimate Ear (in ear ear buds), i was not sure how would G2 perform. Just before taking a plunge into rooting the device, i used the stock player with the same headphines. To my surprise the sound was very good. Although it lacked the heavy bass i used to get from galaxy s, g2 sounded balanced and with sufficient clarity. Noteworthy i turned off any kind of equalizer tweaks in the player and used FLAC or mp3s with at leasr 320 kbps bit rate.
manbeer said:
Hi all,
I am new to the LG community but not the android community, and have had a host of (mainly) samsung phones over the last few years
My most recent phone was an s4 which i hated and promptly sold. I Still had my previous Note 2 which had much better battery life, sound quality, and just ran better overall
I have been running the note 2 now since the day it was released with a variety of ROM's and overall it has continued to be a great phone. Sound quality is great with the Wolfson DAC, battery life is good, and i actually like the size
My beef with the S4 was that the screen felt much smaller, it had hissy audio and lacked the dynamics of the Note, and just felt very buggy
About a year ago i cracked the screen on my Note but have continued to use it anyway. I actually liked it enough where i preferred it over the brand new s4. However, the cracks are starting to get worse and i am finally nearing the point where i am ready for the new phone
The g2 seems to offer everything i am looking for. Good battery life, a decent sized screed etc
My main questions are regarding the mixed reviews of sound quality. Some say good, some say good with different music players etc.
One of the main things i use the phone for is media so i can't have something that sounds terrible or i'm going to regret my purchase and go back to the broken note 2. Also, the battery life is a big deal so does anyone else have experience with both phones that can give me a bit of their perspective regarding these things? I really hated my s4 and just don't want to waste another upgrade on something if i don't like it more
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I came from a Note 2 as well.. I dropped mine and it cracked the screen.. replaced it with the Lg G2. I'd say the audio seemed wrong at first .. i think just different and possilby worse placement of the speaker and maybe a little weaker but nothing to make it a deciding factor. I was also used to a Samoled screen.. the vibrancy and deep blacks.. you lose that a bit with the Lg G2 and lose some viewing angles as well.. it really is a beauty of a screen though I just prefer the super amoled better. Battery life is just as good or better. My Gps is pretty darn terrible.. locks on good and quick but has me about a 50 yards off.. going a different direction.. it usually catches up but not great when making frequent turns. The G2 definitely seems to be faster.. the note2 wasn't bad but I dont think I've ever witnessed a stutter or lag with the g2.. I have zero interest in something faster. The Camera on the Note 2 is very comparable to the G2.. I do like the G2's 60fps 1080p mode though.. looks unreal smooth. I would prefer hardware/capacitive buttons compared to the onscreen buttons on the G2. If it was me I'd probably wait till the 11th when the S5 comes out to compare the g2 and s5 side by side. Sorry about the rambling....

xperia z2 favourite feature?

hi guys i just would love to know whats everybodys favourite Z2 feauture? thankyou mine is definitly double tap to wake

ado0001 said:
hi guys i just would love to know whats everybodys favourite Z2 feauture? thankyou mine is definitly double tap to wake
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Tbh I love everything about the phone. But the only reason I can enjoy it is because of the great battery :thumbup:
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mujj said:
Tbh I love everything about the phone. But the only reason I can enjoy it is because of the great battery :thumbup:
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i totally agree dude!!!

My favorite by far is the camera. I just use superior auto mode and am able to take the most amazing pictures in a wide variety of lighting conditions (even inside darkened bars with no flash). I have completely stopped using my point and shoot camera. I also love the ability to take multiple pictures while holding down the shutter button. I use that at sporting events or situations where there is fast action to get the perfect shot. The 120 fps video mode is another favorite of mine and I have several really great videos that incorporate slow motion now. I thought that was going to be gimmicky and I would tire of it, but it's amazing how many video situations are improved by it.
There are many other features I love, but so far camera is my fav.

ado0001 said:
hi guys i just would love to know whats everybodys favourite Z2 feauture? thankyou mine is definitly double tap to wake
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ALL the new added features from the Z1 lol... so I couldn't resist but to upgrade. But definitely the double tap is one of the new feature that I also like most following by the noise cancelling (I listen to music a lot on trains/bus)

Sony UI. Truly a nice android overlay.
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Where to get?
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redhuan9 said:
Where to get?
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You have it. Standard Sony UI is stock.
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I really enjoy the double tap feature as well as the battery life.

King Cole said:
I really enjoy the double tap feature as well as the battery life.
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I like the display.

My battery drain so fast....
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Love most things about the phone, especially the noise canceling! Oh, and battery life!
Camera is excellent, but I don't take photos often anyway, it's not important to me.
The only thing I'm hoping that Sony will fix ASAP is the screen sensitivity problem. Mine is way too sensitive even without the glove mode. A touch can be registered just by hovering my fingers above the screen at about 5mm, which is ridiculous. Never had that problem with any other phones I own.

double tap
battery life
camera (compared to the M7)

augie7107 said:
Sony UI. Truly a nice android overlay.
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same here.I just can't stand Lagwiz anymore.sony has the most clutter free UI in all android community right now

I love USB OTG connect to Hi-Resolution USB DAC.... Not many people noticed about this feature. But I like it.
I used to use my WalkmanF and connect to PHA-2.... since I got Xperia Z2 I just carrying Xperia Z2 and PHA-2(amp)
Ofcourse I like most of this phone, much improvements from Xperia Z and better than my previous phone HTC　One(m7)
Good Cameras and better performance, and good price.... I will go with SONY.

Battery is one of the best in the world so yeah.
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This phone is really amazing, I love everything about it! The camera has incredible quality, especially with all the features (including high speed capture). 4K video, seriously? That's awesome. The dedicated camera button is awesome and handy when wanting to load the camera quickly.
The processor and 3GB of RAM helps keep the phone running snappy and smooth. Very awesome.
The FEEL and LOOK of the phone just screams high-end. Compare to my friend's plastic band-aid Galaxy S5 is a joke.
Waterproofing is amazing. I even took it to the ocean for kayaking and was fine. It stayed in my pocket and got a little wet (never submerged), and I just hosed it off afterwards (it was kinda funny doing it. I even got comments from passers-by).
The noise-canceling headphones are like magic. Now I can focus on my podcasts and audio books without all the loud noise from the roads and bus. Again, magic. And they feel great, even with my tiny ears (I normally wear Bluetooth headphones because I don't like in-ear earphones).
The magnetic charger on the side is so handy! No need to open the USB flap to charge.
The lanyard hole is a bonus. I can keep the phone handy when active outdoors.
Front-facing speaker is great. No more having to cup the phone with my hand to hear better.
The notification light is nice. Not just a simple boring single dot of light, but a cool-looking spread of light.
The user interface and stock keyboard is actually kinda nice. I came from using Go Launcher and SwiftKey X, and I like this (maybe not necessarily better, but still good). Although the text selection is kinda funky.
I like that if I hold the power button, there is an option to take a screen shot (I like it better than Volume Down + Power).
I like that it has micro SD card capability! What's wrong with some non-Apple manufacturers removing this? Hello?! This is a must!
I like that my phone doesn't say Verizon/T-Mobile/AT&T/Sprint on it!
The flashlight list kinda weak, but still good. I do miss having a quick button in the notification tray, but the widget button works fine.
The NFC is cool, I used it on the free bonus Bluetooth stereo that came with the phone. I haven't used the Throw feature, but I'm sure that's nice too.
And finally, I LOVE the battery life! 2.5 days!
I'm definitely happy to have paid top dollar for this phone.
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After thinking for a while I don't know what I don't like about this phone tbh.It's the perfect phone in every aspect that comes to my mind.
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whiteblazer01 said:
This phone is really amazing, I love everything about it! The camera has incredible quality, especially with all the features (including high speed capture). 4K video, seriously? That's awesome. The dedicated camera button is awesome and handy when wanting to load the camera quickly.
The processor and 3GB of RAM helps keep the phone running snappy and smooth. Very awesome.
The FEEL and LOOK of the phone just screams high-end. Compare to my friend's plastic band-aid Galaxy S5 is a joke.
Waterproofing is amazing. I even took it to the ocean for kayaking and was fine. It stayed in my pocket and got a little wet (never submerged), and I just hosed it off afterwards (it was kinda funny doing it. I even got comments from passers-by).
The noise-canceling headphones are like magic. Now I can focus on my podcasts and audio books without all the loud noise from the roads and bus. Again, magic. And they feel great, even with my tiny ears (I normally wear Bluetooth headphones because I don't like in-ear earphones).
The magnetic charger on the side is so handy! No need to open the USB flap to charge.
The lanyard hole is a bonus. I can keep the phone handy when active outdoors.
Front-facing speaker is great. No more having to cup the phone with my hand to hear better.
The notification light is nice. Not just a simple boring single dot of light, but a cool-looking spread of light.
The user interface and stock keyboard is actually kinda nice. I came from using Go Launcher and SwiftKey X, and I like this (maybe not necessarily better, but still good). Although the text selection is kinda funky.
I like that if I hold the power button, there is an option to take a screen shot (I like it better than Volume Down + Power).
I like that it has micro SD card capability! What's wrong with some non-Apple manufacturers removing this? Hello?! This is a must!
I like that my phone doesn't say Verizon/T-Mobile/AT&T/Sprint on it!
The flashlight list kinda weak, but still good. I do miss having a quick button in the notification tray, but the widget button works fine.
The NFC is cool, I used it on the free bonus Bluetooth stereo that came with the phone. I haven't used the Throw feature, but I'm sure that's nice too.
And finally, I LOVE the battery life! 2.5 days!
I'm definitely happy to have paid top dollar for this phone.
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In addition to this... is the use of any stylus especially the aesthetic nice looking sony stylus es22! (not a lot of people know about it)
Double tapping to wake; the feature everyone was waiting for!
File commander saved our butts regarding the copy move curse of kitkat. Thank you Sony!!!!!!!
Nothing beats the sexiness of the build; putting glass and aluminum in one unibody is just fabulous. I just love it!!!
IR blaster presence would've made this phone flawless!
Every time i hold this master piece it takes my breath away!
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I think my favorite feature is that I can install the Kijiji app on it to trade for a more open phone.

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PhoneArena's video review:

My quick 2-cents on this device thus far....
Pros:
- Build quality is ecstatic for such a low price. Very sturdy and no creaks.
- The screen is absolutely gorgeous. I've been using a G2 and I've enjoyed it's IPS display, but I think this Idol 3's trumps it. It's brighter and colors seem to pop out more. Can't rave enough about the screen.
- The external speakers are absolutely loud and crisp. I honestly think it's really close to the quality the HTC M series have... If the M9's speakers are a 10/10, I'd have to give the Idol 3's an 8/10. They're that good.
- Speed wise, things seem fast. I don't game much on my phone, and if I do it's those simple mobile games, but everyday tasks will fare just fine on this device.
- Love the almost stock Android feel!
Cons:
- While I love the build quality, the back plate has a very cheap feel/look to it. Though it's not really a complaint since I expected it. Granted, I'm not really the type to care about build materials but I know it matters to a lot of people. As long as the phone is sturdy, I'm happy. (My dream would be if dbrand made skins for this phone)
- Not a fan of the Alcatel Launcher or it's icon pack. (Nova FTW)
- Camera is so-so. Seems to be on par with my G2's camera, which isn't bad by any means, just not the best.... but then again, for the $199 that I paid for it, how can this be a con... right?
- For the life of me I can't get the double tap to wake feature to work... Does anyone know if it's something I have to enable in settings? I've tried to look and can't find anything. Thanks
- Can't think of any other con at the moment... I'll edit this if I find more.
So far this device is an absolute steal at at $199! What have you guys thought so far?

Double tap to wake, go to settings and it's the first setting under "device" enable slider to double to wake.

Double Tap
I have Nova Launcher installed and double tap does not work. Double tap does however work on the stock Alcatel skin. In the Nova Launcher settings you have to pay for the premium to get the double tap feature.

Don_GT said:
I have Nova Launcher installed and double tap does not work. Double tap does however work on the stock Alcatel skin. In the Nova Launcher settings you have to pay for the premium to get the double tap feature.
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I've got nova prime running with double tap to wake and sleep working. You could always pin a "screen off/sleep" app to your home and tap it to sleep.

redeyss said:
I've got nova prime running with double tap to wake and sleep working. You could always pin a "screen off/sleep" app to your home and tap it to sleep.
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How do you apply double tap to wake and sleep via Nova? I don't see it in the Gesture settings within the app.

mackster248 said:
How do you apply double tap to wake and sleep via Nova? I don't see it in the Gesture settings within the app.
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Assuming you have the paid version, nova prime. Download "screen off and lock" app from play store first. After installed, nova settings, gestures, assign screen off app to double tap gesture. Alternately, just double tap empty portion of screen while running nova as home and you will be prompted to allow screen off app to assume that gesture. Let me know if you get it, good luck!

redeyss said:
Assuming you have the paid version, nova prime. Download "screen off and lock" app from play store first. After installed, nova settings, gestures, assign screen off app to double tap gesture. Alternately, just double tap empty portion of screen while running nova as home and you will be prompted to allow screen off app to assume that gesture. Let me know if you get it, good luck!
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Perfect. Thanks man! Works great.

So far I'll mirror mackster's review, spot on! Nice phone and quick with great screen. I crushed it while installing my apps but it didn't get hot, just a little warm, which impressed me.
I'm worried about the camera. I took about 8 shots and so far not so good. Let me play with it for a couple days and I'll get back to you. I too was using a G2 the last few weeks after selling my G3. G2 camera has ois and was pretty decent. Idol 3 reminds me of nexus 5 cam, decent but only under ideal light, which is what all the pre release reviews said. G2 seems to get a sharper image in good light.
This really looks, feels, and behaves like a $600 phone from late 2013/early 2014 IMHO. I paid $199 and I'm worried about scratching or dropping it, then have to remind myself it cost a third of a flagship phone and I'm going to use and abuse it without all the anxiety that comes with a huge price tag. Probably slap a glass screen protector on it and a skin if available but that's it!

redeyss said:
So far I'll mirror mackster's review, spot on! Nice phone and quick with great screen. I crushed it while installing my apps but it didn't get hot, just a little warm, which impressed me.
I'm worried about the camera. I took about 8 shots and so far not so good. Let me play with it for a couple days and I'll get back to you. I too was using a G2 the last few weeks after selling my G3. G2 camera has ois and was pretty decent. Idol 3 reminds me of nexus 5 cam, decent but only under ideal light, which is what all the pre release reviews said. G2 seems to get a sharper image in good light.
This really looks, feels, and behaves like a $600 phone from late 2013/early 2014 IMHO. I paid $199 and I'm worried about scratching or dropping it, then have to remind myself it cost a third of a flagship phone and I'm going to use and abuse it without all the anxiety that comes with a huge price tag. Probably slap a glass screen protector on it and a skin if available but that's it!
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Same here! I planned on not using a case on this thing... but it's so damn thin that I may have to lol. It's just hard to hold due to how thin it is. I asked dbrand if they would make skins for this phone, and their reply was "maybe". So I'm holding out for dear hope that they are. Yeah, camera does seem a little bad. And you're right about the G2's camera in great lighting conditions, it really is well above average in that aspect.
As much as I love this phone (so far), Alcatel really blew it with the name lol. I hate the "idol" name and that font at the back of the phone. If dbrand makes skins for this, I'll be fully happy.

redeyss said:
So far I'll mirror mackster's review, spot on! Nice phone and quick with great screen. I crushed it while installing my apps but it didn't get hot, just a little warm, which impressed me. !
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Same here as well.No major issues using apps. Installed and used phone for awhile didn't get hot at all. Only performance issue I saw was closing many recent apps from recent app screen. Screen is nice and very bright. Blindingly bright. The speakers a loud and sound good. Also the sound out of the audio jack is very loud too which I'm happy about. I tried to use the stock launcher but I missed some features from Nova so I had to install Nova Prime. That's not a knock against Alcatel tho. Today I'm happy with it. We'll have to play around with it for awhile.

Guys, I'm struggling with this camera! Just did a series of comparison photos with my G2, one M8, and the idol 3. Indoor shots of my son with overcast light coming in windows behind me. Colors washed out and details soft and muddy. M8 had best color reproduction and G2 had best detail and sharpness. I switched to Google camera and results improved noticeably but not dramatically, with truer color and crisper images. I tried with and without "eis" electronic image stabilization enabled and didn't seem to make a difference. This could be a deal breaker for me but I'll keep trying, please post your results.
PS, t. Stark perhaps a photo thread is in order.

can u try camera mx or some others from appstore? been using it for sometime.
the sensor itself shouldnt be that much of a difference since its the same widely used i guess.
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gavolo said:
can u try camera mx or some others from appstore? been using it for sometime.
the sensor itself shouldnt be that much of a difference since its the same widely used i guess.
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I will try camera MX but hope to hear from others so I know it is or isn't a defect in my particular phone. Yes its that bad....

redeyss said:
I will try camera MX but hope to hear from others so I know it is or isn't a defect in my particular phone. Yes its that bad....
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Did you set it to 13 megapixels? I haven't done a comparison with my g2 yet. From the little pics I took. It seems okay.

guapinoy said:
Did you set it to 13 megapixels? I haven't done a comparison with my g2 yet. From the little pics I took. It seems okay.
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Yep 13mp and played with settings. G2 has Xcam mod but still miles better. Will try and post pics later from PC.

Moved

my impressions after 2 days:
positives:
1. awesome battery life. i would guess 6+ hours screen time easy.
2. speakers are absolutely awesome.
3. the screen is very bright. wish we could reduce it (might give longer battery life to boot!).
4. no problems with wifi or other things like heat etc.
5. user experience is fast enough - better than nexus 4.
6. excellent build quality.
negatives:
1. camera (ok for the money)
2. need root desperately. to change DPI.
3. biggest negative - tmobile reception is like 10dB lower than nexus 4. at my work, where signal is poor, i used to get LTE with that phone, but now I can't. seriously thinking on returning this .
antutu 64bit score is 33000.

deepasadish said:
3. biggest negative - tmobile reception is like 10dB lower than nexus 4. at my work, where signal is poor, i used to get LTE with that phone, but now I can't. seriously thinking on returning this .
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yes, I've noticed my reception has decreased significantly coming from my HTC One M7 and even the ZMAX is getting better LTE reception. I usually get full bars at home and work but i'm down to 2.
considering returning the phone also and trying out the zenfone 2 since i'm in an area where band 12 is being used by a public tv network and wont benefit me at all.