I9505 lags in games - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My i9505 stutters in all games, literally all. Even lighter ones like subway surfers, vector, mini motor racing. It drops a couple of frames randomly every few seconds, its 60 but then drops to 57 or 53 and then immediately goes back up.
Heavier games like Vice City, San Andreas, NFS Most Wanted, Iron Man 3, Dead Trigger, Dead Trigger 2, Shadowgun Dead Zone lag and stutter like hell.
NFS MW gets from 25 to 35 fps, GTA VC goes over 30 but often even drops slightly below 20. GTA SA gets 30 max with it stuttering and dropping to around 20. Dead Trigger 2 and Shadowgun DZ get 30 fps but every couple of seconds it suddenly drops to like 28/25/23 and then quickly goes up. Modern Combat 4 goes below 30 as well.
Anyone else with this problem? Or it's just me? Any solutions?
I'm on 4.3 (XXUEMKE), got it out of the box.

TheBeast said:
My i9505 lags in all games, literally all. Even lighter ones like subway surfers, vector, mini motor racing. It drops a couple of frames randomly every few seconds, its 60 but then drops to 57 or 53 and then immediately goes back up.
Heavier games like Vice City, San Andreas, NFS Most Wanted, Iron Man 3, Dead Trigger, Dead Trigger 2, Shadowgun Dead Zone lag and stutter like hell.
NFS MW gets from 25 to 35 fps, GTA VC goes over 30 but often even drops slightly below 20. GTA SA gets 30 max with it stuttering and dropping to around 20. Dead Trigger 2 and Shadowgun DZ get 30 fps but every couple of seconds it suddenly drops to like 28/25/23 and then quickly goes up. Modern Combat 4 goes below 30 as well.
Anyone else with this problem? Or it's just me? Any solutions?
I'm on 4.3, got it out of the box.
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What firmware do you have? Even if you are on 4.3, you should check for updates, because for me, it really made a difference in gaming experience.

popab said:
What firmware do you have? Even if you are on 4.3, you should check for updates, because for me, it really made a difference in gaming experience.
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XXUEMKE
So you're saying I should try another 4.3 firmware?

Wow no one plays games here.

TheBeast said:
Wow no one plays games here.
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Is your phone rooted? Can you check your phone's clock speeds for GPU and CPU?
I wouldn't say I am having the same problems but DT2 simply won't budge from 35fps on any setting except ultra, which has its frame rate cap go up to 60. Weird.

Dabreaker9 said:
Is your phone rooted? Can you check your phone's clock speeds for GPU and CPU?
I wouldn't say I am having the same problems but DT2 simply won't budge from 35fps on any setting except ultra, which has its frame rate cap go up to 60. Weird.
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Yea cpu/gpu are ok, running at 1890/450, I even tried overclocking them, but same fps :S
And no matter what settings I set exactly the same fps and stutters. I don't get it. Haven't seen more than 30 fps in any game except in games like Angry Birds and Vector.

TheBeast said:
Yea cpu/gpu are ok, running at 1890/450, I even tried overclocking them, but same fps :S
And no matter what settings I set exactly the same fps and stutters. I don't get it. Haven't seen more than 30 fps in any game except in games like Angry Birds and Vector.
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... Are you willing to wipe your phone? It might be worth a try.
Alternatively, see if you can reinstall the games (although I doubt that will work).
I don't have 4.3 (running 4.2.2), so I wouldn't know a workaround for your firmware. :/

I have a feeling its about optimization from the developers of the games and not our hardware throttling. Just like how subway surfers will never get 60fps even on the iPhone 5s but the 5s flies with other games. I honestly believe our S4 is capable of running games like GTA at 60fps just fine.
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Hazerm said:
I have a feeling its about optimization from the developers of the games and not our hardware throttling. Just like how subway surfers will never get 60fps even on the iPhone 5s but the 5s flies with other games. I honestly believe our S4 is capable of running games like GTA at 60fps just fine.
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Yea that seems to be the problem. That is the only thing that could explain the same exact stutters and low fps no matter which rom, frequency, settings you use. I guess I should've gone with I9500, looks like it's the only one getting games optimized for when it comes to s4.

any fixes for this?

TheBeast said:
Yea that seems to be the problem. That is the only thing that could explain the same exact stutters and low fps no matter which rom, frequency, settings you use. I guess I should've gone with I9500, looks like it's the only one getting games optimized for when it comes to s4.
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sounds stupid but is power saving mode enabled?

SamzWorldOfMusic said:
sounds stupid but is power saving mode enabled?
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Haha nope I ain't that dumb :laugh:

TheBeast said:
Haha nope I ain't that dumb :laugh:
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lol just checking. It has happend before

I am extremely frustrated with this issue!
I am coming from an S3 and I never had any lag problems with any games! On the i9505, with most games, even less-demanding ones such as PvZ2, after 5 minutes of playing, it starts lagging like hell. Also the phone gets really really hot in the upper part.
I have KT kernel and the KTweaker app, but don't know what exactly to change. Can someone please tell me some settings for this?

why gs4 prevent lag during exection
Galaxy S4 always lag during playing all type of games because of overclocking. I notice Htc one is the same specs interms of cpu/gpu but it is totaly perfect with zero lag so the reason is the gs4 overclock to the speed of 1.9 instead 1.7 like HTC one.

Hi please refer on this thread. It might help you. I had the same issue until it was resolved. ?☺ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773601
[Q] i9505 lagging on heavy games
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Modern Combat 4 Performance?

How is the performance in this game for you guys? Can feel framerate drops throughout the first level so it's not running smoothly on my i9505.
This game is awful at optimization.
First mission lags the same on my galaxy mini 2 and my tegra 3 tablet
Yeah, it seems to run the same as it did on the Galaxy S3.
Gameloft suck. :silly:
No lag at all.The game runs smooth at 60 fps.
the game runned smooth on my galaxy s2
Really good on my i9505 !
Either you guys are allot less fussy when it comes to framerate or we are playing different games.
On my phone it lags when wifi is off, so the game is pretty much useless to me, is there any fix for that?
You have the same problem as me... But i dont know how to fix. When i know i will play it, i just start the game at main menu and turn off wifi. It works fine then. Dunno whats the actual problem

Galaxy S4: top android or expensive stone?

Hello
Im a new owner of a Samsung galaxy S4 I9505. Im experiencing big problems in a game called Modern Combat 4, which has great graphics. Its often unplayable during multiplayer (and sometimes singleplayer) due to excessive fps drop. Naturally game is original, bought on play store, device not rooted and just booted... Why? Oo
I remember with my iphone 4s i could play Modern Combat 3 withouth any fps drop T_T
Thanks
This can perhaps be a software optimization issue. I have an ipad 3 which can play MC3 perfectly fine but MC4 is messed up with frame rate drops all the time. But then, any issues should have been fixed by now as the game has been out for like 9 months or so:what:
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1080p unfortunately kills the performances in game.
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batna.antab said:
1080p unfortunately kills the performances in game.
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I see
Anything I can do to give it good performance? Especially during online gunfights its really unplayable
Are you familiar with overclocking, custom kernels, and custom roms if yes then thats what I would do, if no i wouldn't even step into that field with such powerful device.
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strange. It plays fine here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfzb0mpugrw and here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKXdDavWMiU.
ifoxd007 said:
Are you familiar with overclocking, custom kernels, and custom roms if yes then thats what I would do, if no i wouldn't even step into that field with such powerful device.
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Definitely not familiar
nik511 said:
strange. It plays fine here [/url].
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thats the i9500 (octacore), i got the i9505 (quad core)
and btw single player lags just a bit, except in some really heavy parts like 1st mission, where you must attack a beach with so many enemies, water, boats, etc
real problem is multiplayer, which always lags a lot during gunfights T_T
Wickam said:
Definitely not familiar
thats the i9500 (octacore), i got the i9505 (quad core)
and btw single player lags just a bit, except in some really heavy parts like 1st mission, where you must attack a beach with so many enemies, water, boats, etc
real problem is multiplayer, which always lags a lot during gunfights T_T
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The game is pretty graphic intensive. I ran it on my i9505 international version rooted running AOSP with stock kernel.
Frame rates is definitely lower than what I use before (Xperia S).
I have to use SetCPU to dial up the speed and it ran much better but heats up a lot.
My gut feeling tells me that it has something to do with the stock kernel.
I'll look into it later and let you know.
slick530 said:
The game is pretty graphic intensive. I ran it on my i9505 international version rooted running AOSP with stock kernel.
Frame rates is definitely lower than what I use before (Xperia S).
I have to use SetCPU to dial up the speed and it ran much better but heats up a lot.
My gut feeling tells me that it has something to do with the stock kernel.
I'll look into it later and let you know.
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Oww thanks!!!
Especially you should try multiplayer: gunfights are pretty much unplayable imho... But fortunately I was very good with MC3 so I can kill... Sometimes
About singleplayer, it doesnt lag as much, it doesnt even lag often but, for example, in the beginning of first mission (during beach assault) i get some lag, not as much as multiplayer though
Wickam said:
thats the i9500 (octacore), i got the i9505 (quad core)
and btw single player lags just a bit, except in some really heavy parts like 1st mission, where you must attack a beach with so many enemies, water, boats, etc
real problem is multiplayer, which always lags a lot during gunfights T_T
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i9500 performs better in games than i9505? well that's new ... until now i was told otherwise ... marginal difference ... but otherwise nontheless
Wickam said:
I see
Anything I can do to give it good performance? Especially during online gunfights its really unplayable
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You can change the graphical setting of the game, you'll lose a lot of details but the game will be much smoother, there is an app to change the gameloft games graphical settings but I don't remember the name.
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Wickam said:
Definitely not familiar
thats the i9500 (octacore), i got the i9505 (quad core)
and btw single player lags just a bit, except in some really heavy parts like 1st mission, where you must attack a beach with so many enemies, water, boats, etc
real problem is multiplayer, which always lags a lot during gunfights T_T
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There isn't any noticable difference for GPU performance between these two models http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p2.php
S4 is a new phone and probably their graphics engine is not optimized for this phone I guess.
A phone is as good as its user who knows how to operate it
gee2012 said:
A phone is as good as its user who knows how to operate it
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funny
so am i supposed to buy 600$ or more of top android device just to change rom, kernel and overclock it to run a game that iphone 5, which has half of the hardware, runs smooth? eheheh,
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funny as a cactus in the ass
so am i supposed to buy 600$ or more of top android device and just to change rom, kernel and overclock it to run a game that iphone 5, which has half of the hardware, runs smooth? eheheh, i love androfanboys <3
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I personaly xperience no lags or framedrops on NFS, Asphalt 7 and Riptide GP Pro. Maybe too many apps and widgets working in the background, hardware has its limitations
gee2012 said:
I personaly xperience no lags or framedrops on NFS, Asphalt 7 and Riptide GP Pro. Maybe too many apps and widgets working in the background, hardware has its limitations
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i could play asphalt 7 and nfs without any lag also on iphone 4s wich is neither paragonable to i9505
only modern combat 4 seems to be able to stress my device and give so bad performance, especially during multiplayer matches
Its Modern Combat 4 the problem not your phone... there is an actual problem in the game. it doesn't even play in 1080p anymore after the update. i've overclocked my phone like crazy and removed any thermal throttling. it still lags a lot in multiplayer. The same thing happened when i had my HTC One... I think it has to do with poor optimization for the snapdragon 600 because it doesn't seem to work well with any phone with that processor
crzykiller said:
Its Modern Combat 4 the problem not your phone... there is an actual problem in the game. it doesn't even play in 1080p anymore after the update. i've overclocked my phone like crazy and removed any thermal throttling. it still lags a lot in multiplayer. The same thing happened when i had my HTC One... I think it has to do with poor optimization for the snapdragon 600 because it doesn't seem to work well with any phone with that processor
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****ty ****floft, i wonder why for god sake i still keep buying their sheets ehm games
Wickam said:
****ty ****floft, i wonder why for god sake i still keep buying their sheets ehm games
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Yeah well.. GTA also still lags like hell
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Games

Just games. Are there any crashes, low framerates in popular games or any other issues? Mostly I'm interested in GTA and adventure point-and-clicks but you may write your opinions on anything you want.
My kids like to play Minecraft on my G Pad and it seems to run fine. I have also played Artemis, which works great.
Battlefield 4 Commander App is a bit laggy on Stock ROM. But I think fixes will bring better fps soon.
I have played asphalt 7,8,and real racing 3 on the g tab and 2013 nexus, every now and then on the nexus 7 I've gotten a short stutter which has not happen with the g tab.
FIFA 14 and Asphalt 8 work without any issues.
plants vs zombies 2 and modern combat 4 play fine but they overheat the tablet
katsika said:
plants vs zombies 2 and modern combat 4 play fine but they overheat the tablet
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Sorry but I haven't had a tablet or phone that didn't run hot with graphic intense games.
techrider6262 said:
Sorry but I haven't had a tablet or phone that didn't run hot with graphic intense games.
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Exactly, and "overheat" is a bit of a strong term which suggests that the machine will crash or the hardware gets damaged after playing games for awhile. It gets warm but nothing out of the ordinary IMO.
I've been playing Flashout 3D, Assassin's Creed Pirates, Galaxy on Fire 2, Anomaly 2 and various other games and it's been able to run them all with no problems (Pirates does stutter every now and then but not enough to bother me and the fps is usually beyond 30).
The main problem for me when running games on the G PAD, is that they eat everything out of the battery from the phone. When I have only been playing the game for a short period of time, my battery soon goes down to 50% which is really annoying.
I would recommend "Jetpack Joyride", its free to download the google play store however is more designed towards kids. Its a truly addictive game and will keep you entertained for hours.
It plays even intensive games like Asphalt 8: Airborne well, and nothing ever felt overly laggy. But stock KitKat clearly comes with a huge speed boost, and switching from one model to the other for days at a time, I always noticed the difference.
I had major perfromence issues with games with lags, stutters, fps lower than 10... But it was all fixed after I moved to CyanogenMod
Since latest Nightly my two crashing games were fixed. Plants vs Zombies and Anthill.
I've got a question, is Order and Chaos Online working fine on your GPads? Mine is unplayable
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Is it unreasonable to expect smooth gaming on this phone?

Whenever I play games on this thing it is very smooth for the first few minutes then it just turns into a choppy mess. Obviously this is because the CPU is getting hot and throttling back but I'm just wondering if it's like this for everyone or have I just got a defective unit? I do live in a warm climate (Australia) so this doesn't help but I don't see a lot of people complaining so it makes me wonder if it's just my phone that has the problem...
rob151515 said:
Whenever I play games on this thing it is very smooth for the first few minutes then it just turns into a choppy mess. Obviously this is because the CPU is getting hot and throttling back but I'm just wondering if it's like this for everyone or have I just got a defective unit? I do live in a warm climate (Australia) so this doesn't help but I don't see a lot of people complaining so it makes me wonder if it's just my phone that has the problem...
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What game? Or is it any game.
Gizmoe said:
What game? Or is it any game.
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Quite a few that I've tried, Crashlands, Minecraft Pocket to name a couple.
rob151515 said:
Quite a few that I've tried, Crashlands, Minecraft Pocket to name a couple.
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I've played both angry birds and hill climb racer for at least an hour at a time and saw no degrade in performance. I have not played the 2 you mention though. I will try them and let you know.
Gizmoe said:
I've played both angry birds and hill climb racer for at least an hour at a time and saw no degrade in performance. I have not played the 2 you mention though. I will try them and let you know.
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Angry Birds and Hill Climb Racer are both very low GPU demand games. So that's probably why.
As to the OP, the Snapdragon 810 is notorious for throttling when it gets warm. That may be your issue.
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Quite a few that I've tried, Crashlands, Minecraft Pocket to name a couple.
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Well I played Crash lands for about a half an hour. Phone got hot but didn't slow at all for me. Are you using a custom rom?
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Angry Birds and Hill Climb Racer are both very low GPU demand games. So that's probably why.
As to the OP, the Snapdragon 810 is notorious for throttling when it gets warm. That may be your issue.
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He obviously knows it throttles. Did you read the OP?
Gizmoe said:
I've played both angry birds and hill climb racer for at least an hour at a time and saw no degrade in performance. I have not played the 2 you mention though. I will try them and let you know.
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OK thanks. I'm definitely seeing a fairly significant drop in performance and usually only after a few minutes. I'm rooted running elementalx and I can see that the CPU temp hits 50 degrees celsius quite quickly. I think it starts throttling after this. Can anyone else who is rooted check their temps while gaming?
Running stock ROM.
I've played many graphic intense games and haven't had any lag/stutter issues. I'm a big mobile gamer and haven't had a problem with any games so far. (Complete stock no root)
Just my 2cents!
I play Boom Beach and the game will sometimes close down without warning or any prompt to send a report. It just disappears.
I play arcane legends for several hour at a time and never see any drop in performance.

Lags in games?

I've read people that say that G6 lags in games big time. Is it so? Is it not buy if I would want to have some fun in-between moments?
Billy Madison said:
I've read people that say that G6 lags in games big time. Is it so? Is it not buy if I would want to have some fun in-between moments?
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Did those said people say which games? Because I've been using my LG G6 for games too and haven't seen any lag what so ever. And I've played alot of graphic intensive games too as well as casual stuff
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Mchi5 said:
people say which games?
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Yes
namely zombie tsunami, goo saga, red ball evolved & lapsum
Billy Madison said:
Yes
namely zombie tsunami, goo saga, red ball evolved & lapsum
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Sorry never played those. But sports games like NBA 2k17, Fifa and Real Racing 3, which are all very graphic intensive plays with no lag
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Nope. No lag here either and i play some pretty intensive games.
Considering the games you listed are all just simple 2D games it should run them easy and battery is gonna last a long time.
No lag on: DB Dokkan Battle, Fire Emblem: Heroes, Summoner Wars, Pokémon Go and Tap Titans 2
WstrKuNoužč said:
Considering the games you listed are all just simple 2D games it should run them easy and battery is gonna last a long time.
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What if those games just can't see 18:9 and are hardcoded to run in 1280x720? And when stretched they stutter somehow?
another example is RR3 which throttles to 18fps often which is way too low for such powerful 821
Billy Madison said:
What if those games just can't see 18:9 and are hardcoded to run in 1280x720? And when stretched they stutter somehow?
another example is RR3 which throttles to 18fps often which is way too low for such powerful 821
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Well, you basically choose in which aspect ratio you wanna play games that don't support 18:9.
You can choose the usual default format 16:9 (with black left and right borders), optimized format 16.7:9 (with small left and right black borders) or 18:9 (fullscreen). It basically crops the games window to your liking. Really easy to set up and works like a charm.
Most games don't support 18:9 yet, only some new ones do, but i play pretty much all of them in 18:9 np. Performance is the same in either of those ratios, i'm pretty sure, as it only crops the image.
If a game is hard-coded to lower resolution then i'm pretty sure it plays at that resolution and doesn't up-sample. I've played a cpl of games hard-coded to 1080p and they actually still looked great despite running on a 1440p screen. You can still choose aspect ratio tho.
I've had no issues. So far I've played Pokeymanz Go, Magikrap Jump, Devil Twins, Sailor Drops, TriggerKnight, Dungeon Vilage, Game Dev Story, Ninja Village, Plague Inc, Infectonator, Tales of Link with no issues. The only time I've managed to make this thing stutter is when streaming music over BT and the phone switches back and forth between wifi and mobile data a couple times (this happens on my way home in the afternoon. It picks up my 802.11ac, then I whip around a corner and it drops it, whip back and it picks it back up).
I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx
teruhiko666 said:
I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx
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That's probably not weird considering it won't even install for me through Google Play. It's says it's not compatible with my phone.
Doesn't look like a demanding game so it's probably just not optimized.
They claim that in Mushroom Wars Space and Mushroom Wars 2 G6 is especially lagging. Could anyone prove this claim?
What about framed/2? they say G6 is snail laggish in this
teruhiko666 said:
I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx
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I play this game on my LG G6 and I can confirm that it does lag like CRAZY! Especially BD Raid DAMN!!! Feels like its gonna blow. But everything else is super smooth. Weird thing is my Note7 Exynos 8890 runs Kings Raid on max settings super smooth.
I have zero lags. But I have my G6 pretty much debloated and I always disable the, "Game Battery Saver" option. I think that option makes a difference.
But I mostly only play racing games and COD games.
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It seems it has problem with 2D games. My wife's G6 lags like crazy in Angry birds pop. I tried to force GPU rendering in developer settings, but didn't help. I even lowered game resolution in battery settings
No lag at all playing pes2018
Yes, it does lag, but only when charging and playing at full resolution. It also only charges at about 1000 miliamps when screen is on. Not a huge deal for me, but I do hope oreo update will fix this.
Mine has this weird thing where a game will be super smooth for about 5 seconds but goes choppy, then I have to pause and resume for it to go back to smooth for another 5s.
This mainly happens for me in RR3, Plague Inc, Beast Quest and a few others.
Must be a software issue as it's obviously capable enough hardware. Hope Oreo fixes this!
Can't deal with low frame rates!!
Anyone else had this issue?
For me every game is working quite well except Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes. Which I really like so it's quite annoying.

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