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Monitoring phone temperature with extended battery?

So I finally bit the bullet and purchased two Galilio 2000mah batteries from ebay and currently have been quite pleased, however, I use the battery monitor widget found in the marketplace and I have found that it is not correctly displaying the temperature. It is always stuck at 77.3 F. Using stock battery I am able to get a accurate temperature.
I like to be able to get a temp reading so I can stop using the phone if it gets too hot.
Any ideas why this is happening and/or recommendation for one that will work?
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BatteryTime Lite seems to report accurate temperatures for me and my Sprint OEM Extended battery.

I use battery left widget its dead on! It just takes awhile to calibrate but it works.. check it out!
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Unfortunately, neither of these programs worked for me. They did the same thing as Battery Monitor Widget. Showing a constant 77.3 F. Any other ideas/suggestions?
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Ayryyn said:
Unfortunately, neither of these programs worked for me. They did the same thing as Battery Monitor Widget. Showing a constant 77.3 F. Any other ideas/suggestions?
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Yep... cheap battery is cheap! I am betting it doesn't have a temp sensor....

Setcpu works for me but I don't have one of the budget batteries
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I think a good app for estimated battery would be juiceplotter. Its in the market. I use that and its pretty accurate, but sometimes its off.

If battery monitor widget doesn't work... nothing is going to. They all get the measurements from the same place.

Yeah, I thought so, just was hoping for a different answer. Oh well, life will go on. Some how.
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Same here, cheap '2000mah Galilio' batteries from eBay always read 25 deg Celsius.
Kam

You're going to be okay just by feeling the phone. If it gets hot to the touch, shut it off or take it out of your pocket. It's a waste of space having battery temperatures displayed if you ask me, unless you're way overclocked or running Snap.
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Disabling Sensors

I was looking around some of the battery stats and it came to my attention that some sensors seem to be operating alot of the time. I figure this has alot to do with the standby power consumption ive been experiencing with CM7.
The point is, i cant find any way to control sensor behaviour to test this out. Is anyone aware of any app or script which helps with this? Because i have not been able to find any.
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seriously? nothing?
im sure someone can come up with something

What sensors are you talking about?

Im not sure, but when i go in spare parts and look as sensor usage it says android system has been using sensors for 3 and something hours and the same goes for dialer and gallery.
whats for sure is that my screen hasnt even been on for half that long, so what im thinking is some of the sensors must be collecting data while the phone is supposed to be sleeping and that should account for some of the phone idle battery usage.
my idea is to turn off all the sensors (which i dont use anyway except for maybe the proximity one during calls) and see how it affects battery usage.
however i have yet to find a way to manipulate or turn off any of the sensors on this phone.

If you disable screen rotation, that will probably shut down the accelerometer/orientation sensor.

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If you disable screen rotation, that will probably shut down the accelerometer/orientation sensor.
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that one is pretty obvious and while i doubt that will turn off the sensor (might just tell the device to ignore its readings but it doesn't mean the sensor is shut down) there are still 5-6 more sensors running on this device and what im looking for is a way to shut them down on the hardware level. i figure this is kernel-related but still this can't be the first time anyone has brought this up.

Then delete /system/lib/hw/sensors.olympus.so, that will disable them all, they won't even be initialized
Not sure if your phone will like it though, nandroid backup first

turl1 said:
Then delete /system/lib/hw/sensors.olympus.so, that will disable them all, they won't even be initialized
Not sure if your phone will like it though, nandroid backup first
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currently in the army so i cant say i'm in an environment to be getting my phone into boot loops but do you figure there is a more friendly way to edit that file rather then deleting it?

There's no source for the sensors library, so unless someone wants to disassemble it and rewrite from scratch, no.

and you dont figure that will be something worth looking into in the great journy towards great battery life?

Sorry for hijacking this but how do you enable the the spare parts app?

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and you dont figure that will be something worth looking into in the great journy towards great battery life?
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I already get more than a full day with pretty heavy use, enough greatness for me
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Sorry for hijacking this but how do you enable the the spare parts app?
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CM7 has it on the ROM, for other ROMs you can install one from the market

Not much help, but to confirm your findings, if the proximity sensor is on, a little red light appears. Look out for it. If it is always on, you have a problem.
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Not much help, but to confirm your findings, if the proximity sensor is on, a little red light appears. Look out for it. If it is always on, you have a problem.
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True. However running elixir i see that this phone has 8 sensors in total. It also claims that some of them use between 6 to 8 mA while in use. Cant really say what that means battery wise or even if its correct but i still think its worth looking into
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Any sensor in particular you are concerned about?

If im trusting elixir.. the magnetometor, rotation vector and orientation are what we should be concernef about. It claims the rest use negligible amounts but i dont know if we can believe that (says light sensor uses no power at all which i find a little hard to believe)
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guybanda said:
True. However running elixir i see that this phone has 8 sensors in total. It also claims that some of them use between 6 to 8 mA while in use. Cant really say what that means battery wise or even if its correct but i still think its worth looking into
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8 mA draw would kill your battery after 9-10 days. Not a very significant drain...
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guybanda said:
If im trusting elixir.. the magnetometor, rotation vector and orientation are what we should be concernef about. It claims the rest use negligible amounts but i dont know if we can believe that (says light sensor uses no power at all which i find a little hard to believe)
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Hmmm. The 3-axis geomagnetic sensor in the atrix, the AK8975/B has a
consumption of
- 3-axis magnetism measurement (ave.): 350μA (typ.) at 8 Hz repetition rate
-Power-down: 3 μA (typ.)
That is 0.00035A if it is constantly pooling at 8x a second!
The accelerometer in the atrix is the KXTF9 series and assuming the atrix has the most power hungry version, the KXTF9-2050, it can only draw a maximum of 940μA and typically draws a current of 840μA. It's standby current draw is 0.1μA or 0.0000001A and at that rating, our 1930 mAh battery can keep it in standby for about 2 million years!
In short, the sensors don't draw alot of power, despite what the apps say, it the people who made those sensors say they cannot exceed such a current draw, that's that. You might want to look at apps who are actually requesting the data from the sensors, and not the sensors themselves.

Well then like i said the programs which seem to be using the data are noted as android services, dialer and gallery. So i dont know if theres much you can do about that....
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xfinrodx said:
8 mA draw would kill your battery after 9-10 days. Not a very significant drain...
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Well then according to your calculations: if thats one sensor theb that means 3 sensors would kill the battery in 3 days. Which ofcourse means they would use about a third of the battery in one day.
I personally find this hard to believe but it still means significant drain.
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Battery Auto Charge :)

Hi,
I just bought a Mugen 5400mha battery, this is the second charge its running from.
Strangely enough the percentage goes up now and then...
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Please try using MUGEN Battery Calibration app available on Play Store. I think at least once you need going thru it.

Gede said:
Hi,
I just bought a Mugen 5400mha battery, this is the second charge its running from.
Strangely enough the percentage goes up now and then...
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Our fuel gauge chip is preloaded with battery model parameters that describe a 2500 mAh battery - a 5400 mAh battery probably confuses it slightly. Currently there is no way to change the model parameters used by the gauge - Maxim's ModelGauge algorithm is highly proprietary, calibration parameters are delivered for a device manufacturer's given battery to Maxim customers. The good news is that the algorithm is flexible enough that only minor glitches occur when the battery is twice the size the gauge was designed for.
LowDef said:
Please try using MUGEN Battery Calibration app available on Play Store. I think at least once you need going thru it.
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No, it won't do anything. No app can do ANYTHING to calibrate our battery.
If you actually read the source code for our fuel gauge driver at https://github.com/Entropy512/n7000...er/drivers/power/max17042_fuelgauge_u1.c#L603 , you will see that there is ONE input from userspace into the fuel gauge subsystem, and that is "reset". That is ALL that is available - resetting the fuel gauge in the same manner as a power cycle.

[Q] Samsung Gt-i9505 62 celsius :/? battery.. etc.. HELP

Hey
Now. i know this has been asked alot before etc.. but i havent found my answer so im making my own thread and providing some information on my device
I got my Sgs4 a few days ago and ive been hitting temps of up to 60-62 ...
My questions.
a) These high temperatures, erh... arent they killing(not draining.killing) the battery? cuz i recently read Li-ion shouldent get above 40?
b) Is there ANY fix for this without root?
c) Should i rma it when its hitting such high temps? or will i just get a device where the same thing happends..?.
d) Would this possibly be fixable with a future software update?
Now, here's some information
Before the s4 i had s3 and i remember it being hot and shutting off in the first months i had it, but a update solved it. Buuut unlucky as i am i broke it :/ so i bought the s4.
My s4 is the quadcore Snapdragon 600.
I've done/gotten 0 software updates.
I've tried dissabling some programs (look attachments)
I've used power saving mode. still gets hot.
I've tried rebooting
I've tried changing the Micro sdhc and tried removing it completely too.
The only thing i found helpful was laying the phone on top of my pc fan :/..
Ive attached some pictures with my specs etc..
The temp was recorded using '' #*0228# '' code
Hopefully some awesome person will help me
Images are posted by Om22 lower in post number 6 because i cant add em myself

amd62 said:
Hey
Now. i know this has been asked alot before etc.. but i havent found my answer so im making my own thread and providing some information on my device
I got my Sgs4 a few days ago and ive been hitting temps of up to 60-62 ...
My questions.
a) These high temperatures, erh... arent they killing(not draining.killing) the battery? cuz i recently read Li-ion shouldent get above 40?
b) Is there ANY fix for this without root?
c) Should i rma it when its hitting such high temps? or will i just get a device where the same thing happends..?.
d) Would this possibly be fixable with a future software update?
Now, here's some information
Before the s4 i had s3 and i remember it being hot and shutting off in the first months i had it, but a update solved it. Buuut unlucky as i am i broke it :/ so i bought the s4.
My s4 is the quadcore Snapdragon 600.
I've done/gotten 0 software updates.
I've tried dissabling some programs (look attachments)
I've used power saving mode. still gets hot.
I've tried rebooting
I've tried changing the Micro sdhc and tried removing it completely too.
The only thing i found helpful was laying the phone on top of my pc fan :/..
Ive attached some pictures with my specs etc..
The temp was recorded using '' #*0228# '' code
Hopefully some awesome person will help me
I cant link to my images yet :/ working on it
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is your back of the phone really hot? because temp. sensors of batteries are often faulty.

om22 said:
is your back of the phone really hot? because temp. sensors of batteries are often faulty.
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Yep. it was around the 60 degress.. i mean it felt like that so i doub theyre faulty :/

Dont whorry my i9500 gets to hot i mean very hot i cant make call im in wanam rom but still hot not like the first i think but still hot now i can make calls
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rida007 said:
Dont whorry my i9500 gets to hot i mean very hot i cant make call im in wanam rom but still hot not like the first i think but still hot now i can make calls
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Its not because the heat. it doesnt bother me. Its because im afraid of it damaging the internal stuff AND ruining the battery :/

The OP asked me if i could put his pics here because he has not enough posts for using links.
so here are the pics, which belong to the first Post.

still no fixes ?

60c i think it's processor. At 60c battery your phone will be shutdown, danger there.
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The attached pictures show The reading... Still 60 C processor seems very high for a Phone?
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I am Also getting 20500 in antutu instead of The average 24800..this really concerns me?
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Here is my temperature recorded right after benchmark. Im sure it could get higher with longer usage :-\
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mist813 said:
Here is my temperature recorded right after benchmark. Im sure it could get higher with longer usage :-\
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what was your score?

Around 24000 first time, Around 21000 second time just after
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Check in the battery stats if an app is consuming allot of battery and disable it.
Check using some cpu monitoring app like watchdog if some process is running high cpu cycles
Check if in flight mode the phone heats up. If not maybe wifi or radio transmitter is working hard.
Check if your reception is good or not in battery stats when clicking on the graph. Should be green if good yellow if bad.
Worse case replace your unit with warrenty...
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Check in the battery stats if an app is consuming allot of battery and disable it. Nope. none
Check using some cpu monitoring app like watchdog if some process is running high cpu cycles Im using CPU spy. doesnt seem like there is any
Check if in flight mode the phone heats up. If not maybe wifi or radio transmitter is working hard. Will try this
Check if your reception is good or not in battery stats when clicking on the graph. Should be green if good yellow if bad.reception is good
Worse case replace your unit with warrenty...
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seilat said:
Check in the battery stats if an app is consuming allot of battery and disable it.
Check using some cpu monitoring app like watchdog if some process is running high cpu cycles
Check if in flight mode the phone heats up. If not maybe wifi or radio transmitter is working hard.
Check if your reception is good or not in battery stats when clicking on the graph. Should be green if good yellow if bad.
Worse case replace your unit with warrenty...
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btw i see youve got the same device. Havent you felt any heat from the backsite under the camera?

Still no firmware for me =(
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Nope. At least not when idle or regular use. When playing hd games sure. Like my previous s3.
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How do i check the temp? Do i need an app?
So far based on my observations my phone heats up when playing games. As for surfing it heats up more if you use LTE/4g. when the connection icon changes to H it doesnt heat up as much when in 4g.
My workaround so far is when my screen is off, it auto shuts down all connections by using a profile manager app. No push notifications though but it does save up my battery and avoid heating. Im still waiting for an update that fixes this overheating issue. sucks to not be able to use push just for the sake of the phone not heating up...
*EDIT: nvm i figured the code out from the OP. mine reached 55c

Zymesh said:
How do i check the temp? Do i need an app?
So far based on my observations my phone heats up when playing games. As for surfing it heats up more if you use LTE/4g. when the connection icon changes to H it doesnt heat up as much when in 4g.
My workaround so far is when my screen is off, it auto shuts down all connections by using a profile manager app. No push notifications though but it does save up my battery and avoid heating. Im still waiting for an update that fixes this overheating issue. sucks to not be able to use push just for the sake of the phone not heating up...
*EDIT: nvm i figured the code out from the OP. mine reached 55c
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type *#0228# on the keyboard. at the top it shows network state, then battery state and temperature, at the bottom it says "external thermistor" and that's the phone temperature. my s4 heats up to 50° just by browsing xda app, 65° when watching youtube. sometimes can't even touch the space under the camera it's so hot.
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How modify

how to disable automatic shutdown on hight battery temprature detection ?
my phone is always shuting down , so i took a logcat and found this
E/BatteryService( 668): silent_reboot shutdownIfOverTempLocked
sI/ActivityManager( 668): START u0 {act=android.intent.action.ACTION_REQUEST_SHUTDOWN flg=0x10000000 cmp=android/com.android.server.ShutdownActivity (has extras)} from uid 1000 on display 0
here is what want to do but i dont where is that file
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/help-small-modification-android-t2581346
how to modify that ?

You do not want to shut this off. If you do your phone could easily over heat and fry the main board. You are better off finding the cause of it.
As for the file this can only be done in the source code so only if your building aosp. Again it's better if you find the cause.

Problem solved. I decompiled service.jar and removed all the lines related with temperature shutdown from batteryservicre Somali file.now my phone is not shutting down even when battery temp is 80 degree.
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DarkFrenzy said:
Problem solved. I decompiled service.jar and removed all the lines related with temperature shutdown from batteryservicre Somali file.now my phone is not shutting down even when battery temp is 80 degree.
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I suggest you to save money for a new phone, because your phone will become fried soon.
Parts start melting st 85°C,and a clever man would know that removing the safe shutdown at 80°C is not a good idea.
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But y is my battery not hot when temperature is high.
Should I buy a new battery?

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But y is my battery not hot when temperature is high.
Should I buy a new battery?
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The processor gets hot. That is a absolutely normal thing when the temperature outside is above 25°C
Kernels like Dorimax have the
Temperature CPU Throttle(reduce CPU Clocking to reduce the heat).
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