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[Q] Atrix 4G ICS Dead?? What will be your next phone?

I am getting tired of always picking the company that least supports its product. I really love the Atrix 4G but I need to move to ICS for security reasons at work. I have waited patiently only to be denied in the end.
That being said, I am looking for a company that not only delivers what they are promissing but activly maintains thier products.
What will be your next phone/manufacturer?

Nexus will be best option. At least it will be updated without false commitments.
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I had a run of Android devices, bit sick of constant update crap, and I'm not giving Google more of my money for a nexus after they shafted us.
So I'm going back to iOS for a while, had a play with an iPhone 5 yesterday; it was damn nice. Same size, but nicer, screen as the Atrix, half the thickness and feels really good quality wise. Camera is awesome.
Maybe when it's due for an update there will be another platform to try out.
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That is some bad news to hear, would of been great to see a ICS/JB rom developed by Notorious544d
Thankfully I sold my Atrix last tuesday and currently looking to buy a HTC One X since they are the best deal right now Hardware/Price...

I am done with motorolla. I said screw this and I ordered a Galaxy nexus today. I was going to sit on it and run out my contract but this was the last straw. I am going to pull the phone off the net showing that this move kills the phone. It me moving off of motorala. It means no increased sales for motorola it means more sales for other companies.

I'm planning on getting a Nexus phone next. It will probably be quite more than a year before I can ditch this thing, though. At least I have my Nexus 7.

Wait, you guys are pissed off with Motorola so you paid a premium for a phone from Google who owns Motorola? And who, in all probability, killed our update?
That'll show them your outrage.
/facepalm
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consolation said:
Wait, you guys are pissed off with Motorola so you paid a premium for a phone from Google who owns Motorola? And who, in all probability, killed our update?
That'll show them your outrage.
/facepalm
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Dupe thread -- if you want to chat about your next phone after the Atrix, there is a older and longer thread here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832081

Ubuntu Edge - Ubuntu's First Phone

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
Dual boot Ubuntu mobile OS and Android
Fully integrated Ubuntu desktop PC when docked
Fastest multi-core CPU, 4GB RAM, 128GB storage
4.5in 1,280 x 720 HD sapphire crystal display
8mp low-light rear camera, 2mp front camera
Dual-LTE, dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4, NFC
GPS, accelerometer, gyro, proximity sensor, compass, barometer
Stereo speakers with HD audio, dual-mic recording, Active Noise Cancellation
MHL connector, 3.5mm jack
Silicon-anode Li-Ion battery
64 x 9 x 124mm
Exclusive to Indiegogo backers. The Edge will NOT be available to buy at launch.
Specs to be finalised as late as possible to ensure the best available components.
Dual-boots into Ubuntu mobile OS and Android; converts into a full desktop PC.
Works with LTE and GSM networks, including Verizon and Sprint.
Perks include all charges for US and UK, including VAT and delivery.
Standard manufacturer warranty will apply once manufacturer is selected.Zero cost to backers if the campaign is unsuccessful.
Please donate and spread the word so the development of this device will make it!
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Ordered one. Can't wait for May 2014.

Ordered. Can't wait!

Ordered one. I can't wait either!

Don't forget to spread the word! If they don't hit the goal then the phone won't be made and we'll all be refunded our money. So there's no concern about losing your payment, let's get this goal reached so we can enjoy having the highest quality phone made!
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Also ordered one.
Any of the devs here ordering one?

Ordered !
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Hell i couldnt resist paid $675

jutley said:
Hell i couldnt resist paid $675
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I know the feeling. I was prepared to pay the $830 but when I looked today I grabbed one for $625.
People don't think about it, but 40,000 devices for $32,000,000 is $800 per device. Every one they sell less than that they're losing money on.
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Amazing phone! I want to buy it but I think I will wait little much more

D0GuKaN said:
Amazing phone! I want to buy it but I think I will wait little much more
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I think there's a lot of people thinking this. Once it gets closer to the required amount and its a more feasible possibility that the phone will actually be made there will be more people to jump on board. That's what I was thinking until I found out that the funders got a refund if it didn't meet the goal. Once I knew that then I jumped on because I don't want people not buying the device because they're waiting for the number to get higher. There just isn't much logic behind that when you'll either get the phone or a full refund. The longer you wait, the more you risk having to pay more for the device.
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Yep - I jumped on board too $32million is a big target though - hopefully when it beats the pebble smartwatch funding record ($10mil) people will take it more seriously.
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Reamer09 said:
People don't think about it, but 40,000 devices for $32,000,000 is $800 per device. Every one they sell less than that they're losing money on.
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Fortunately there seem to be lots of good samaritans that are pledging lower amounts for no reward - basically subsidising the phone for the rest of us!
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htc-rocks said:
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Fortunately there seem to be lots of good samaritans that are pledging lower amounts for no reward - basically subsidising the phone for the rest of us!
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True. I am grateful for those people. I was going to be one but after thinking about it for a day (and seeing the reduced price) I couldn't resist.
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It sucks I dint have enough money
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Findee said:
It sucks I dint have enough money
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Every little bit helps. If this phone gets funded then they'll release another next year that maybe you can jump on. If this phone doesn't get made then there's no knowing how long it'll take for a device like this to be made again.
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Win Ubuntu Edge!
Hi Ubuntu fans!
We can now win Engraved Ubuntu Edge phone (if it reaches the production) by spreading the word about it.
Go to Indiegogo Ubuntu Edge page and check the announcement!
Cheers!

anilmujagic said:
Hi Ubuntu fans!
We can now win Engraved Ubuntu Edge phone (if it reaches the production) by spreading the word about it.
Go to Indiegogo Ubuntu Edge page and check the announcement!
Cheers!
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Bought one as well. Unfortunately it seems that to few people are aware of this SUPER PHONE. SPREAD THE WORD!!
We're living on the edge! Keep on rockin in the free world!
I really thought it was more people here at XDA that was interested in cool tech like this.

dave888 said:
Bought one as well. Unfortunately it seems that to few people are aware of this SUPER PHONE. SPREAD THE WORD!!
We're living on the edge! Keep on rockin in the free world!
I really thought it was more people here at XDA that was interested in cool tech like this.
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Would it be against XDA policy to make a thread such as this in the Android and Windows Phone general sections? I didn't think of it till you mentioned it, but just because its in those threads doesn't mean people aren't interested. We're not forcing the phone on anyone, just wanting to bring it to light. I've used all of my social networking connections to promote this device.
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Ordered mine yesterday ......
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Paid 860 dollars and got 205 dollars in discount the day after. Win
If they're not far from making it by the last days, I can give them the 205 dollars to make sure they go through with it. 830+30 dollars is still a good price for that phone.

Will the 2012 Nexus 7 be obsolete soon?

Just curious,
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Technically its been obsolete for a while but I imagine we'll get AOSP support for a couple more years.
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If you are using a custom ROM, you can bet your ass it will be obsolete.
None of the devs except maybe 2 in the whole community have stuck with a device they are developing for once a new one comes out. They'll abandon users as soon as something new comes out.
I actually came to this forum to see if there was a stock 4.3, because I'm sick and tired of devs who walk out on their users.
Any ROM developers reading this: Yes, this most likely means you.
The DONATIONS you give these guys gives them enough money to get something new; that means, you paid for your own demise.
I'll probably get some flak over this comment, but I've been a member since 2006, I see the trends.
Disgraceful.
It's so bad, I trust Verizon more than I do developers. Now that's sad.
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD

abuttino said:
The DONATIONS you give these guys gives them enough money to get something new; that means, you paid for your own demise.
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Lol!
Obsolescence is a state of mind.
I'm still happy to be using my unrooted DroidX on Android 2.3.4, my rooted, stock Nexus 7 locked at Android 4.1.2 (very stable at 1100+ hours System Uptime, i.e. no unexpected reboots), and even a Windows XP SP3 PC.
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ERM HTC hd 2 much? Bit harsh labeling all developers like that, rather than just dissing them have a go at it yourself. The whole paying for your own demise is unfair too, these guys put hours of effort & probably stressful nights into these ROMs & upload these ROMs for FREE but the option is there to DONATE if you would like to. I have only just got a 2012 n7 & hope to learn enough to keep it running as long as the hardware will last. If you want to keep custom ROMs in development have a go at it rather than sitting back & waiting for it serving up on a plate for free & being ungrateful for what you have actually been given. Remember these guys have lives & jobs & families outside providing FREE ROMs for you.
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Apparently you didn't read the post.
I said that I was searching for a STOCK 4.3 ROM.
and.. I trust Verizon more than I trust devs.
What would make you think I'm using a custom ROM after that comment?
It's not harsh, it's the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts.
I am on tapatalk but if I made my way over to a desktop view, I'm guessing you just joined in the last 2 years. If not, you should see the trends and notice this inexcusable behavior.
I've been here for 7, I see the trends. I am on the most coveted Motorola device at this time, because it's the only one "unlockable". Meander over to the RAZR HD forums, it's dead and we get stale bread crap roms while the sgs4 gets hyperdrive.
I am scared ****less to unlock my device because I know the devs are already abandoning it. I would rather Verizon come out with 4.3 and I can get a nexus 7 4.3 and be on my merry way developing more apps.
When you have something device centric and the users gave you donations to support your development on that device, you are not supposed to walk away from those users like most do. Essentially, they screw the user because they walk off with the money and never look back. If they were business people they wouldn't be in business long for all the lawsuits they would encounter.
Tell me you haven't had this happen to you before.
Low blow or not, it's the truth.
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abuttino said:
Apparently you didn't read the post.
I said that I was searching for a STOCK 4.3 ROM.
and.. I trust Verizon more than I trust devs.
What would make you think I'm using a custom ROM after that comment?
It's not harsh, it's the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts.
I am on tapatalk but if I made my way over to a desktop view, I'm guessing you just joined in the last 2 years.
I've been here for 7, I see the trends. I am on the most coveted Motorola device at this time, because it's the only one "unlockable". Meander over to the RAZR HD forums, it's dead and we get stale bread crap roms while the sgs4 gets hyperdrive.
I am scared ****less to unlock my device because I know the devs are already abandoning it. I would rather Verizon come out with 4.3 and I can get a nexus 7 4.3 and be on my merry way developing more apps.
When you have something device centric and the users gave you donations to support your development on that device, you are not supposed to walk away from those users like most do.
Low blow or not, it's the truth.
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Wow!!!!!! You've been here for 7 years.....big deal. And in those 7 years you've been so helpful to your fellow members that you have been "thanked" 7 whole times....let's see....that's one thank per year.
Why don't you just go back to lurking and leave the forum to those who really want to use it.
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I do see what your saying to a point but it doesn't leave a device useless. The option is there to leave stock, flash a custom Rom or make one to suit yourself. Being dickish really isn't going to help gain support or sympathy, the only thing being achieved here is irritating people & isolating yourself from any help you may need.
Sent from my Nexus 7

Well... Look at it this way, someone had to say it.
When it comes time for a new operating system, people are left high and dry for root access, making their device useless for all intents and purposes.
The developers need to pay a little more respect to people that made donations with not walking away the first sight of a new device.
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD

Ouch! I'm going bow out of this pissing match.
I pity the fool that puts more faith into Verizon than me.
So sad. You've got issues dude. How are those monthly Verizon donations working out for you?
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They are called service fees and I get the best service of any carrier in the United States.
So, other than Verizon being slow to release roms, at least they don't abandon devices as fast as devs do.
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You sir need to change your tone and quick.
I have abandoned no one and find your bull**** attitude offensive.
I have collected the vast income of about $70 here over the years.
Where the **** were you when I bricked my N73G trying to get GSM voice working.
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abuttino said:
I actually came to this forum to see if there was a stock 4.3, because I'm sick and tired of devs who walk out on their users.
Any ROM developers reading this: Yes, this most likely means you.
The DONATIONS you give these guys gives them enough money to get something new; that means, you paid for your own demise.
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Dbag alert..

Synman said:
So sad. You've got issues dude. How are those monthly Verizon donations working out for you?
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ZING!
Ungrateful bastard. Stay stock.
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Perhaps xda should start selectively charging service fees starting with you.
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Ya know... This really pisees me off. You should be thankful you even have post rights here. XDA is a DEVELOPERS forum. What is it exactly you have actually contributed in your 7 years here?
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You can download the stock images of nexus devices from Google. No need to come here and complain.
As far as this being obsolete I wouldn't be too worried unless you need/want more powerful hardware.
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Keithn said:
You can download the stock images of nexus devices from Google. No need to come here and complain.
As far as this being obsolete I wouldn't be too worried unless you need/want more powerful hardware.
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If he was going to complain about developers doing what they want with their own free time, I'm not surprised he didn't think things through about where factory images come.
Newsflash: donations are voluntary contributions. They are not the same as service fees or commission payment. They carry no legal obligations. If you choose to donate to a dev to get a device, you're acknowledging in the act of donation that the dev is under no contract to support a device for any length of time.
It's very different from what you appear to be imagining, which is some bizarre situation where devs draw up contracts to do crowdfunded work and then breach some "agreement" they made with their users. If a carrier that you pay money for service stops providing services, they're legally liable for that. But if you donate money to a dev? Good luck getting anyone to give a hoot. Caveat emptor.

Synman said:
XDA is a DEVELOPERS forum.
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Just curious... anyone know what % of the users on XDA are/were software developers?

Nate2 said:
Just curious... anyone know what % of the users on XDA are/were software developers?
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Anyone know how much this forum would last without that % of developers?
Oh wait... everybody knows... not much.
No reasonable conversation is taking place and therefore...
Thread closed.

Major Shocker..Lenevo reportedly buying Motorola

http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/29/5358620/lenovo-reportedly-buying-motorola-mobility-from-google
Verge reporting Lenevo planning to buy Moto. This will SUCK big time.
Edit : is now official
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/lenovo-to-acquire-motorola-mobility.html?m=1

Not what I wanted to hear having just ordered an X. Tbh I might return if this turns out to be true.

I feel sick.

Yeah this sucks. Guess no more updates past 4.4.2.
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Damm noo

Feel like throwing my Moto X
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Take a look at the verge link within op's link. The comments are great!
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****. I feel like an asshole for recommending Motorola phones to friends, assuming they'd get updates faster because of their proximity to Google.

But......But I just got a walnut back 32gb X. Really don't want to rma, but if this is true, not sure that I want to keep it.

I'm still sticking with my VZW Dev Edition for now because I can tether my unlimited data and it's way way way faster than my Galaxy Nexus... but FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

My initial reaction was shock and dismay, specifically because I really thought Google was helping to turn around Motorola. But the truth is that Lenovo does turn out quality products too. My past three laptops have all been Thinkpads and my latest one, a 2013 T430, is a tank that takes a licking but keeps on ticking. One can only hope that Lenovo will let Motorola continue its trend for quality phones like the X.

Idk but that would suck!
Note 2 N3BULIZED!

This is what happens when the bean counters are in charge instead of the engineers.
Google stock up 2.7% in afterhours.

kampana said:
My initial reaction was shock and dismay, specifically because I really thought Google was helping to turn around Motorola. But the truth is that Lenovo does turn out quality products too. My past three laptops have all been Thinkpads and my latest one, a 2013 T430, is a tank that takes a licking but keeps on ticking. One can only hope that Lenovo will let Motorola continue its trend for quality phones like the X.
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But they will push their crappie skin instead of stock.
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Why wouldn't lenovo continue to update their software?
seems like you guys might be over reacting a bit.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/lenovo-to-acquire-motorola-mobility.html

Well that sucks, now you don't only have to worry about the U.S. government spying but now the Chinese government as well, I own a lenovo tablet and all we got is 1 frigging update
Sent on my lenoto x
Sent on my Moto X

How bad can this really be? Is everyone over reacting? Or should I just buy a Nexus 5 now so I can return the Moto X ASAP. They extended my return grace period until the 31st.

Looks like it's finally official, sold to Lenovo for $2.91B.

all of these massive price reductions make sense now.
I really don't know what my next phone will be. I am not a fan of anything out there right now.

Nexus 6 getting same specs as OP 2

Just ordered OP2 today and admittedly, was going to sell it asap for a little profit for Nexus in October, but now I'm thinking, with same specs, we should get updates from CM pretty damn quick shouldn't we? Huawei is a Chinese smartphone company, I'd bet a pretty penny almost everything is identical on the inside... What do you think? Does this mean earlier and more stable Android M+ builds in our future? Should I keep it?
Also, how many invites do I get in the mail with the phone this time. I got 3 last year.
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Really nothing? 30 views and no opinions?
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Its all speculation at this point. The N6 2015 may have the same chipset and stuff but that doesn't necessarily mean they're exactly the same.

The OPT doesn't have any support from CM, though...