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Motorola says if you want to flash custom roms buy from another company

I think they are making a big mistake taking this stance on root & custom roms.
http://androinica.com/2010/07/14/mo...source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_camp aign=Feed%3A+androinica+%28Androinica+-++A+Google+Android+Blog%29

Maybe they should stop with Android then. The platform is all about being open. I lost all interest in this phone when this was confirmed.
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They just lost half of there customers now
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You guys are desensitized from being members here
the rooting/modding/flashing community is maybe at most 10-15% of users, and that's being super generous
most people will not even read that announcement, and if they do, most will have no idea what it means

Zardos66 said:
Maybe they should stop with Android then. The platform is all about being open. I lost all interest in this phone when this was confirmed.
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i can only completely agree with that! i wanted it but now i ordered a galaxy S...screw you motorola!

Modders may only be a very small portion of their user base. But I'll tell everyone who ask to avoid the whole Moto line of phones. And being a Computer Guy I get asked a lot.

I too have posted my feelings on a couple of other boards. Even on my facebook. Android is open source and it is my understanding that Gingerbread is actually aiming at getting rid of overlays like Sense and Blur. Good for Google.
This wasn't even a fully open admission from Motorola. From what I understand the eFuse thing was found BY modders...and not explained by Motorola. That is down right devious.
I was seriously on the fence about this phone...been driving my friends nuts with comparisons between Evo and Droid X. Was going to have both of them in 30 day period to compare side by side for a week...
...now...I love my Evolina more and she is the phone for me. Canceling my spot on the waiting list.

Its really just a stop gap phone until we see a 4.3" HTC device or other super phone with more features. I can live without custom roms and root access on this phone for 6 months.

grdm said:
You guys are desensitized from being members here
the rooting/modding/flashing community is maybe at most 10-15% of users, and that's being super generous
most people will not even read that announcement, and if they do, most will have no idea what it means
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I'd say it much smaller than that. There also seems to be a lot of die hard ROM flashing types buying the phone anyways

I dislike the encrypted boot loader, but not enough to not buy the phone. I am assuming we will manage to get root access. And with that we can do a lot.
Only time will tell how big an issue the bootloader ends up being.

I feel like at&t doesn't actually want me to upgrade.

Lg Optimus G - Locked bootloader
Htc One X+ - Locked bootloader.
Galaxy note II - Out of my price/size range regardless of bootloader.
Xperia TL- Locked bootloader
Galaxy S3 - may grab but, not really thrilled about it like I would have been a few months back.
Nexus 4 - not paying 400$+ for 16 gb of memory and lack of LTE.
I really don't feel like I'm being *that* picky with what I want... Dev Support, better battery life than my captivate, a nice (preferably ips) screen. Either 32 gigs of memory or expandable storage.. and ideally LTE.
Anyone else out there feel kinda like they don't have any "real" options for their next device? I'm stuck on a family plan at the moment and feel like at&t is trolling me to be quite honest.

I feel the same here. I'm not upgrading anytime soon at all. My s2 should last me until I find a good fit for me.
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Shawn said:
I feel the same here. I'm not upgrading anytime soon at all. My s2 should last me until I find a good fit for me.
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It's a real shame too. There are a lot of nice phones being locked down for no real clear cut reason.
I mean I understand that they will sell regardless of whether or not I buy any given phone.. but, it just seems like a waste of their time/energy to lock up a phone when all it does is discourage users from upgrading.

Snow_fox said:
.. but, it just seems like a waste of their time/energy to lock up a phone when all it does is discourage users from upgrading.
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People like us are not the norm. Probably an iOS fart app has more downloads than the xda android app. The people who are being discouraged essentially don't exist to them.

post-mortem said:
People like us are not the norm. Probably an iOS fart app has more downloads than the xda android app. The people who are being discouraged essentially don't exist to them.
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While you are probably right on both accounts... I do think it's incredibly sad on all accounts.
They
A. spend money to lock down the bootloader. Even if it's not a lot it's still money.
B. Loose out on customers like me and you and the few who refuse to buy anything that won't get ROM updates for 2 years.
It's spending money to lose money for no real good reason. And while you're right, we don't exist to them in a lot of ways.. they still look for every possible way to get in our pocket and want every dime we have.

Snow_fox said:
While you are probably right on both accounts... I do think it's incredibly sad on all accounts.
They
A. spend money to lock down the bootloader. Even if it's not a lot it's still money.
B. Loose out on customers like me and you and the few who refuse to buy anything that won't get ROM updates for 2 years.
It's spending money to lose money for no real good reason. And while you're right, we don't exist to them in a lot of ways.. they still look for every possible way to get in our pocket and want every dime we have.
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A. is not necessarily true, because I'm pretty sure they hand out free phones to people who come in with their Android device "that just happened to shut off on them one day." Locking the bootloader cuts down on these numbers and saves them money in the long run.
Either way, AT&T has pretty much super phones from every major Android manufacterer, so you might want to take advantage of that. Also, the Galaxy S3 is a few months old - so what? Why is that impacting your decision on getting it? If I may, #firstworldproblems. I say go for it with incredible development support since that really appears to be the most open.
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Also not upgrading anytime soon, but for another reason. As it turns out, I went through 3 devices from sept 2011 thru 0ct 2012.
But yes, nothing coming out appeals to me. I fear the new nexus will be too massive for me, and I don't want any mfg/carrier controlled device.
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gagdude said:
A. is not necessarily true, because I'm pretty sure they hand out free phones to people who come in with their Android device "that just happened to shut off on them one day." Locking the bootloader cuts down on these numbers and saves them money in the long run.
Either way, AT&T has pretty much super phones from every major Android manufacterer, so you might want to take advantage of that. Also, the Galaxy S3 is a few months old - so what? Why is that impacting your decision on getting it? If I may, #firstworldproblems. I say go for it with incredible development support since that really appears to be the most open.
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There are a number of phones out there that are incredibly hard to brick past the point of repair.
"Average Joe" is going to be scared off by the possibility of a voided warranty and having to do anything requiring any level of technical skill. I don't really think locking down the bootloader saves them nearly as much money as they would like to believe. People are either going to be scared off and not mess with it, or they are going to be angry at you for not fully supporting your phone in any way shape or form.
You also say AT&T has super phones from every major manufacturer, yet the only one you listed with an unlocked bootloader/ample dev support is the S3.. I hardly think that qualifies as a serious or decent selection of "super phones" to pick from. Unless you mean "they have a bunch of phones that will be dropped in terms of support after 6 months."
And you can #firstworldproblem all day long. You're on the internet. The fact that we are even discussing this on the internet means it's a pretty high chance of being a first world issue. Being completely blunt, if you were to argue it's not even a problem I wouldn't really disagree because, quite frankly it's a luxury device and not a lack of water needed for survival.
On the flip side, if you are going to choose to discuss an issue, why not keep it relevant? Even if it is non-existent in scale as far as problems go, we can still discuss whatever we want last I checked.

jordanishere said:
Also not upgrading anytime soon, but for another reason. As it turns out, I went through 3 devices from sept 2011 thru 0ct 2012.
But yes, nothing coming out appeals to me. I fear the new nexus will be too massive for me, and I don't want any mfg/carrier controlled device.
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It's my understanding the new nexus will be about the same size as the Gnex or AFAIK it is.
I don't care if it has carrier branding, I just want the ability to install the latest version of Cyanogen until I'm eligible for a new device.

Snow_fox said:
There are a number of phones out there that are incredibly hard to brick past the point of repair.
"Average Joe" is going to be scared off by the possibility of a voided warranty and having to do anything requiring any level of technical skill. I don't really think locking down the bootloader saves them nearly as much money as they would like to believe. People are either going to be scared off and not mess with it, or they are going to be angry at you for not fully supporting your phone in any way shape or form.
You also say AT&T has super phones from every major manufacturer, yet the only one you listed with an unlocked bootloader/ample dev support is the S3.. I hardly think that qualifies as a serious or decent selection of "super phones" to pick from. Unless you mean "they have a bunch of phones that will be dropped in terms of support after 6 months."
And you can #firstworldproblem all day long. You're on the internet. The fact that we are even discussing this on the internet means it's a pretty high chance of being a first world issue. Being completely blunt, if you were to argue it's not even a problem I wouldn't really disagree because, quite frankly it's a luxury device and not a lack of water needed for survival.
On the flip side, if you are going to choose to discuss an issue, why not keep it relevant? Even if it is non-existent in scale as far as problems go, we can still discuss whatever we want last I checked.
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Dude.. please. Chillax. I'm not arguing with you, simply stating my thoughts. No need to get aggrivated
I'm letting you discuss... when did I say you couldn't.....? I have my $.02 too, though.
By the way, when I said #firstworldproblems it was meant as a joke, not as an insult. I have them too, you know
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gagdude said:
Dude.. please. Chillax. I'm not arguing with you, simply stating my thoughts. No need to get aggrivated
I'm letting you discuss... when did I say you couldn't.....? I have my $.02 too, though.
By the way, when I said #firstworldproblems it was meant as a joke, not as an insult. I have them too, you know
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I am not aggro'd just discussing for the most part.
I more went off on a tanget and never reigned in the train of thought.

Snow_fox said:
I am not aggro'd just discussing for the most part.
I more went off on a tanget and never reigned in the train of thought.
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Sorry mate, it just seemed like you got angry at me.
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gagdude said:
Sorry mate, it just seemed like you got angry at me.
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Oh no, I just have adhd tendencies like rambling.
At any rate, I am really hoping LG decides to throw out some way to unlock the bootloader. I'd really love to have a quad core device with an IPS display this time around.
I don't have anything against the SAMOLED displays but, I would personally prefer a sharper image to a more saturated image.

AT&T Atrix 4g user here...having a tough time deciding what to upgrade to as well. I've toyed with the idea of the One X and the SGS3 but neither excites me too much. Optimus G is very temping from a hardware perspective, but LG's lack of update support and a locked bootloader are a real put off. Will probably just end up grabbing an sgs3 because it will have the most rom support of any at&t phone.
I would prefer a nexus...but I just can't afford to spend $350+ on a phone.

My family plan on AT&T is breaking up. I've decided to go T mobile prepaid with the new Nexus, my dad, getting a job at US Cellular, will get a free plan there along with a $200 discount (he chose the S2) and my mom is sticking with AT&T for the iphone 5
Well good riddance, I had no service in various parts of school and at the local mall
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jhotmann said:
AT&T Atrix 4g user here...having a tough time deciding what to upgrade to as well. I've toyed with the idea of the One X and the SGS3 but neither excites me too much. Optimus G is very temping from a hardware perspective, but LG's lack of update support and a locked bootloader are a real put off. Will probably just end up grabbing an sgs3 because it will have the most rom support of any at&t phone.
I would prefer a nexus...but I just can't afford to spend $350+ on a phone.
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I would wait for a little while at least and see if the Optimus G gets an unlocked bootloader.. it would be godmode then. But, I have to wait till Dec 1st anyway.
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My family plan on AT&T is breaking up. I've decided to go T mobile prepaid with the new Nexus, my dad, getting a job at US Cellular, will get a free plan there along with a $200 discount (he chose the S2) and my mom is sticking with AT&T for the iphone 5
Well good riddance, I had no service in various parts of school and at the local mall
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Not entirely a bad thing.. Tmo has great selection of phones and AFAIK is a little more open with bootloaders and stuff.

I'm only getting the Nexus 4 because my current phone is pretty beaten and battered by now. (not to mention 2 years old)

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Development dead?

As I have started using this wonderful phone I have come to the realization that the development for this device is next to nothing. Are there any more developers as devoted to this community as I am?
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Lol, way to post this in the dev section...
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I think everybody is just taking a break and getting ready for the next update. By the way this thread should be in the general thread.
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Its a question to the developers not the general public
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..... are you kidding me right now?..
how many roms do i pump out for this device? how many kernels does mathkid and r_data push for this device? ect ect...
you wanna see a dead device go look at an lg optimus or somethin

evol4g said:
..... are you kidding me right now?..
how many roms do i pump out for this device? how many kernels does mathkid and r_data push for this device? ect ect...
you wanna see a dead device go look at an lg optimus or somethin
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there are a few developers and belive me i know a dead device i developed for the zte warp untill the androidforums.com mods told me there was no use move on.... the diference is there is no "community development" when multiple people work together to build the best rom possible and there id no themeing either which is a substancial part of any development community. i respect you evol4g otherwise i wouldnt have asked you to my team you are doing a great job keep it going the point of this post was to motivate some of the other developers that have been dormant since jellybean came out you all know that they are out there.

Mostly because people are waiting for 4.2. A lot of the current ROMs are similar and very stable so no need to really make new ROMs unless its say Touchwiz, Sense, or any other custom Android firmware. Wait until 4.2 and devs will probably start making more ROMs.

Incorrect thread is incorrect.
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I will preface my comment by saying i really do appreciate all of the work still being done here. But, let's not kid ourselves. Compared to a year ago, or even 6 months ago, the development has slowed down substantially. I wouldn't say its dead, however this device is showing its age. There are new and better devices that a lot of the people that used to frequent this forum. have moved on to.
Again I do appreciate all of the work still happening in here. This is by far the best supported device I have owned!
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i have to agree with you. but i want to pick it back up this device has potential you cant even imagine

After a year and a half I don't think there's much potential a dev hasn't thought of for this device. You don't see a lot of rom development much after the 2 year mark. Mainly because the devs upgrade to a new phone. I'm just grateful for the work the devs are currently doing!
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well im stuck on this phone for a while so you guys that are in the same situation ill keep working with you guys

It will pick back up when el goog releases 4.2 source. I don't think nexus s will "officially" get 5.0. I do think that a few devs will build it for this device regardless. I might even still be here for that, I haven't decided if I'm going to get a nexus 4 yet. The fact that there is potential for glass to break on both sides of the phone doesn't excite me...
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*looks around*
Nope. No development in this thread, that is in the development section.
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Highway 55 said:
I will preface my comment by saying i really do appreciate all of the work still being done here. But, let's not kid ourselves. Compared to a year ago, or even 6 months ago, the development has slowed down substantially. I wouldn't say its dead, however this device is showing its age. There are new and better devices that a lot of the people that used to frequent this forum. have moved on to.
Again I do appreciate all of the work still happening in here. This is by far the best supported device I have owned!
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Good points and when development does eventually grind to a halt for this device, none of us can really get upset about that. It seems to me for the age of this device, development work has far outlived many other phones.
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For a device of this age, with new devices out that trump it... to see any ROMs getting updated is amazing. Take a look at the HTC Vivid for a community that's dead!

Highway 55 said:
It will pick back up when el goog releases 4.2 source. I don't think nexus s will "officially" get 5.0. I do think that a few devs will build it for this device regardless. I might even still be here for that, I haven't decided if I'm going to get a nexus 4 yet. The fact that there is potential for glass to break on both sides of the phone doesn't excite me...
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No LTE is pretty upsetting as well.

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No LTE is pretty upsetting as well.
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For a new phone, yes. And from what I've been hearing, the battery life isn't even that great, considering the lack of LTE...
I'm a "new" Nexus S owner (bought one used for $120)... and I'm glad I did. It's a solid phone! Now only if I could figure out how to program peak and off-peak email syncing...

I think we'll have the option to have community aosp 5. It will be an option. Just liked the other nexus phones that stopped getting otas but had the option of a built one.
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Maybe we should all learn how to develop ROMs. That go's for all non developers in this community, including me. If there was any guides on how to build really good ROMs I think the nexus community will be more understanding of how it is to be a developer and evolve the community.
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AT&T S4 thread is slow, anyone else agree?

I have noticed that lately that the international S4 has had wayyyyy more attention with their phone going far. Yes I understand that it is due to us having the locked bootloader that it is hard enough for people to get things done, but since we have loki shouldn't that be enough to at least dual boot? Now there are two different forms of dual booting with the international S4 and they have no want to be helping with our S4.
The first that came out was the MoDaCo.SWITCH as seen here. http://www.modaco.com/topic/364246-beta-2-modacoswitch-s4-i9505-support-topic/ Allowing you to boot the Stock TW and Google Play edition roms. With no help or support to allow other roms for it other than what is posted and provided.
Next is GraSwitcher Which can be found here.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417600 Allowing you to pick both the TW and AOSP rom of your choice to boot. But here we have again no motivation to push it towards another brand besides the International i9500.
Why can't one of our Devs from the AT&T s4 do something special like this as well? Or build off of this idea to run the dual booting on our devices. It is the best solution to getting the TW camera when we are on AOSP. Is there any Dev out there that would wanna do this for our s4? I am just getting bored of this phone because there isn't any advancement on anything fun with this phone. Dual booting would allow so much more to be done with our phone and would make it all the more special. Since we have kernel access through Loki I don't see what the hold up is for our phone :/ Anyone else wanna give some input into this or give some +1 to get these features on our S4?

I think the problem is yes we have Loki but our bootloader is still locked which is the problem. Plus any OTA update breaks root and has hardened the bootloader. I believe the developers are working strong but the bootloader is making it hard.
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To the OP, and all users who are tempted to reply - Plenty of development is always being researched and experimented with.
I suggest all users who want stuff should educate themselves and try to learn development, that is part of the fun, part of the journey.
I suggest all responses in here be respectful and appreciative of all the work that all developers and contributors bring to XDA.
No trolling and/or self-righteous stuff.

Naddict said:
To the OP, and all users who are tempted to reply - Plenty of development is always being researched and experimented with.
I suggest all users who want stuff should educate themselves and try to learn development, that is part of the fun, part of the journey.
I suggest all responses in here be respectful and appreciative of all the work that all developers and contributors bring to XDA.
No trolling and/or self-righteous stuff.
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beautiful introduction to programming by our dearest, @AdamOutler found here.
android ≠ the freedom just to add what you want onto your device. it equals the ability to learn how to create for everyone.

Naddict said:
To the OP, and all users who are tempted to reply - Plenty of development is always being researched and experimented with.
I suggest all users who want stuff should educate themselves and try to learn development, that is part of the fun, part of the journey.
I suggest all responses in here be respectful and appreciative of all the work that all developers and contributors bring to XDA.
No trolling and/or self-righteous stuff.
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I promise in all sincerity that this isn't about trolling or anything. Nor was it an attack on the devs here. I have started with development but I know its not easy. I am just curious why all the fun stuff is going on on other s4 threads and not ours
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Perhaps market share, or lack thereof. I don't know, but until there is a breakthrough, it would seem there will be a diminishing number of ATT users who can actually flash something.
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There are plenty of Roms to choose from, you can run just about every other S4 variants rom, with our kernel.
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Unless your on MF3
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It's slow because we are waiting. Waiting tends to take time.
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This kind of reminds me of my S2 Skyrocket days. Same S2 label but, not the same phone. At&t variant, different hardware, radio, size...etc. Somethings can be as simple as porting and others are not. But, I have found that if it is possible (like our several locked bootloader issues)...The Devs are on it.

davietr said:
This kind of reminds me of my S2 Skyrocket days. Same S2 label but, not the same phone. At&t variant, different hardware, radio, size...etc. Somethings can be as simple as porting and others are not. But, I have found that if it is possible (like our several locked bootloader issues)...The Devs are on it.
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Ha! Remember it well. I spent two years on the Skyrocket. At first, we were wishing we could get what the i777 had. After the first year, we hit a stride and they were scrambling to port our stuff to thiers. Just goes to show, a little time can change the whole picture. We'll get there.
Besides, I just got my i337 today, and learned it was compatible as a remote for my air conditioner! I have not even rooted yet, and I still feel like a pig in slop.
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I may be wrong, but I have not seen anywhere where we can grab back some of that space.

rebel1699 said:
Ha! Remember it well. I spent two years on the Skyrocket. At first, we were wishing we could get what the i777 had. After the first year, we hit a stride and they were scrambling to port our stuff to thiers. Just goes to show, a little time can change the whole picture. We'll get there.
Besides, I just got my i337 today, and learned it was compatible as a remote for my air conditioner! I have not even rooted yet, and I still feel like a pig in slop.
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Yeah, I think just knowing a device is stock, people are automatically turned off to it. A majority of why people have switched from iOS to Android is they wanted the freedom of customization. Now that most people are on MF3, and there's LESS customization, people are 'hurt'. The Galaxy S 4, completely stock, even with TouchWiz, is still an amazing device. It still fully functions and is still very customizable. But once you use something long enough, and you know if well enough, it's not as enticing anymore. That's why there is less talk about the AT&T or Verizon S4. "Been there, done that". Flashing ROMs gives consistent change and customization.
I'm sure many developers are working hard on working around this and it's all greatly appreciated to the highest extent. But currently, this is the plateau of excitement for 'our' S4 until the devs make a break through.

You can bet that a few devs are all over this dual boot option, wait around, it will be available to us.

Forget dual boot. With a SS, we will have multi-boot. As many ROMs as we have space.
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FourPointedFreak said:
Yeah, I think just knowing a device is stock, people are automatically turned off to it. A majority of why people have switched from iOS to Android is they wanted the freedom of customization. Now that most people are on MF3, and there's LESS customization, people are 'hurt'. The Galaxy S 4, completely stock, even with TouchWiz, is still an amazing device. It still fully functions and is still very customizable. But once you use something long enough, and you know if well enough, it's not as enticing anymore. That's why there is less talk about the AT&T or Verizon S4. "Been there, done that". Flashing ROMs gives consistent change and customization.
I'm sure many developers are working hard on working around this and it's all greatly appreciated to the highest extent. But currently, this is the plateau of excitement for 'our' S4 until the devs make a break through.
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With the new "No contract and new phone every year" plans that are out, this is the result. With those plans, people will have to trade their old phones in for the new phones. Like you said, people get bored and want something new. I can understand why At&t would want the returned phones untouched. Maybe if they could just lock the trade-in no contract phones and leave the contract and full purchased phones uInlocked. But, 99% of consumers will never root or customize their phones. Which makes me wonder why At&t would care about the 1% that do.

davietr said:
With the new "No contract and new phone every year" plans that are out, this is the result. With those plans, people will have to trade their old phones in for the new phones. Like you said, people get bored and want something new. I can understand why At&t would want the returned phones untouched. Maybe if they could just lock the trade-in no contract phones and leave the contract and full purchased phones uInlocked. But, 99% of consumers will never root or customize their phones. Which makes me wonder why At&t would care about the 1% that do.
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Because they can. With T-Mobile doing the "Jump" program to allow customers to upgrade their device every 6 months, AT&T has to compete. T-Mobile customers don't need to root because they can just change devices. AT&T locks their device's bootloaders, forcing customers to want a new device, they think they'll make money on early upgrades/new contracts/cancellations to reopen for new devices.
There isn't much they can do.

It always pays to be patient.. we will see an unlocked bootloader one day.. unless you accidently update that is. someone will always step up to the plate and deal with things... unless when it comes to hacking firmware on kenwood decks :>( *offtopic*
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Interested in Hyperdrive ROM for note 10.1 2014? Support needed.

Hello all Note 10.1 2014 owners.
I am starting this thread to see who is interested in a Hyperdrive ROM.
If you are not familiar, it is a ROM developed by sbreen94 on predominantly Samsung Galaxy devices. Probably one of the best and most popular ROMs out there. Check a few of the Galaxy development threads and you will understand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4600715
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4600715
He has been developing for the old Note 10.1 for a while, he does not own a Note 10.1 2014. However, he said if we can put a 2014 edition in his hands he would be more than willing to create the ROM.
Is there any interest in this? I figure a 16gb refurb would do which can be had for around $350.
haspampel and hashcheck have developed two great KK ROMS so far, but it seems development for this tablet is otherwise lacking. This would be a superb addition.
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UPDATE 5/23/2014
Everything looks to be in place. Nabour's costs have been covered, see her post if interested in the details. Any further donations should be directed to sbreen as additional people see fit.
We will now patiently await, and I stress patiently . Any additional insights could be posted in this thread while sbreen is developing but let's not be bothering him. To quote Fat Sam from the movie Fletch "When it comes, it comes"
Thanks again to all who made this happen!

Depends... we would get him for wi-fi only version or lte?

:good: If users around here are interested in this, i would be happy to make and support a rom for you!

We really need a custom rom for P601 badly, I know that would be a big hit here now, as currently there is only 1 that is not upgraded that often.

Ran Hyperdrive ROM on my ATT S3 for a long time before exploring KitKat Rom options. Lots of options and customization. I'd definitely be interested if a ROM was developed.

Definately interested! SM-P600 here...

After how Scrolser took our money and ran I don't really trust donating to anyone anymore.
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Loving it on my Verizon gs4, would be a good incentive towards rooting this device.
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¿Will-it-Blend? said:
After how Scrolser took our money and ran I don't really trust donating to anyone anymore.
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Would love to see this ROM for the P600.....although I have to agree with Blend.

¿Will-it-Blend? said:
After how Scrolser took our money and ran I don't really trust donating to anyone anymore.
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You must not know me or my roms then
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sbreen94 said:
You must not know me or my roms then
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I'm sure you're a nice person and all and well respected here on XDA. Problem is... so was Scrolser and he left us out to dry. A well respected Dev and he got our money, bought the tablet and ended up selling it later while promising to still update our note's (which hasn't happened BTW). Yeah... that left a pretty sour taste in my mouth.
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Guys, sbreen94 is the real deal. He currently supports 4 or 5 devices. He just doesn't get a new one and forgets about the old ones like some devs do. I will start off the bidding at $20.00 for the wifi model (P600). This would be a most excellent addition to the Note 10.1 2014 community.

¿Will-it-Blend? said:
I'm sure you're a nice person and all and well respected here on XDA. Problem is... so was Scrolser and he left us out to dry. A well respected Dev and he got our money, bought the tablet and ended up selling it later while promising to still update our note's (which hasn't happened BTW). Yeah... that left a pretty sour taste in my mouth.
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I can definitely see how that would upset you and I think it would me too. In the end this is up to you guys and whether or not you guys would like a killer rom for your device. I'll continue to support the phones that I currently own either way
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sbreen94 said:
I can definitely see how that would upset you and I think it would me too. In the end this is up to you guys and whether or not you guys would like a killer rom for your device. I'll continue to support the phones that I currently own either way
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Guys, I would totally support Mr. Breen. I have used Hyperdrive on my Galaxy Note 3 and it is an amazing rom. He is an experienced, top-rated developer.
Let me know how this works - do we just start sending donations, or is it more organized than that.
Barbara

Yes!
I would love to see this rom available for this device!
P600

I would be ok to trow some bucks in for p605, but i doubt there will be anyone else, since we are so few. (i think?)

You can count on 10$ donation from me if you decide to start working on it.

Donations etc.
I figured it would be for the P600 since that is what a majority of people probably own, and it is the easier of the three to be had for a lower price.
I don't know how to organize donations. Perhaps we should do it bounty style with people posting what they can contribute, I'll keep track.
Put me down for $40.
sbreen is legit. He has always well supported all of his roms for all of his devices. I think you'll have an impossible time finding anyone to say anything negative about his work.
Let's keep this ball rollin' :laugh:

drrasii said:
I figured it would be for the P600 since that is what a majority of people probably own, and it is the easier of the three to be had for a lower price.
I don't know how to organize donations. Perhaps we should do it bounty style with people posting what they can contribute, I'll keep track.
Put me down for $40.
sbreen is legit. He has always well supported all of his roms for all of his devices. I think you'll have an impossible time finding anyone to say anything negative about his work.
Let's keep this ball rollin' :laugh:
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I'll go $40.00 as well....

Thanks for the support guys. I would say let's go for the Wi-Fi model which is the P600 I'm assuming. I think posting the amount you are able to contribute in this thread is good so we can keep track. I should probably be able to chip in like 50$ of my own funds toward it
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