A lot of people seem unaware of this and keep telling me that they can't greenify google play services and other system apps because they are running ART.
I'm running ART as well. I used this little app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover to convert play services, search and maps, amongst others, to user apps. After that, I could just greenify them. The apps still work, and are just greenified automatically when the screen is off for a few minutes. As you can see below, there are no more wakelocks!
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These are the apps i have greenified. It now drains nearly nothing over night (0-1%)
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Nice tips! Thanks a lot.
Although I though the restriction was related to being System Apps and not ART itself?
MidnightDevil said:
Nice tips! Thanks a lot.
Although I though the restriction was related to being System Apps and not ART itself?
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Not exactly. Rooted + Dalvik runtime + Xposed Framework + paid version of Greenify will give the ability to hibernate system apps. Otherwise, you do need to make the system apps user apps like Arthedes pointed out. You could also do the same thing manually with any file manger, if rooted.
So, Xposed framework is now ART compatible?
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So, Xposed framework is now ART compatible?
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I beleive so. I'm not really certain. You should check the xposed main thread on xda. i think I saw it there a few weeks ago.
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Cheers for the tips
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Can't sleep tonight so just researching apps this morning. Have you guys or gals used either? Do you recommend one over the other?
BatteryGuru is officially made by Qualcomm so you would expect it to be pretty key to phone optimisation. Also it didn't require root.
Greenify had received many great reviews and the author is constantly updating which is good. Requires root however.
Thanks!
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Greenify here and happy
I'm running battery guru and it works quite well, it'll take about 5 days to give you some savings, but it works. I'm way more impressed then I ever though I'd be...
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Using Greenify, works great.
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. I'm testing Snapdragon BatteryGuru so far but still learning and will let you know how it helps. Scared to root yet!
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Khalsa4G said:
Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. I'm testing Snapdragon BatteryGuru so far but still learning and will let you know how it helps. Scared to root yet!
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No real reason to be scared to root any more. We have the stock images in case you soft brick, boot loop, etc. I was worried to, but it was an extremely simple and quick root process. You just plug in the phone and your rooted after a couple mouse clicks
Also, I recommend freezing the ota applications in TiBu. Never know when at&t may send an OTA that could patch the boot loader exploit. Better be safe than sorry with this one.
Sorry to drag the thread off topic. Just thought I would throw in my $.02 after your comment on rooting. Best of luck
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How does that greenify app work? Say you select all your apps, and then it hibernates them does it wake up when needed or if you get a message or notification?
The app specifically says not to enable apps that have certain notifications such as SMS and whatnot, so I would make sure that you don't do it to apps that you need to be notified.
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How does that greenify app work? Say you select all your apps, and then it hibernates them does it wake up when needed or if you get a message or notification?
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They will wake up when you open them, then hibernate when you close them. Basically if you use it for all apps expect to not mulitask at all (looking at messages, wont recieve phone calls; looking at Internet, wont recieve SMS)
If you have to use either one you don't know how to save your battery. Get better battery stats and learn what is causing your battery drain. These apps only use battery.
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If you have to use either one you don't know how to save your battery. Get better battery stats and learn what is causing your battery drain. These apps only use battery.
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Greenify uses a lot less battery then tons of bad apps running. I like using Facebook app but couldn't careless about the notifications and such. Yes I coukd go in and stop them but not all apps let me (cnet for example) so having a single place to hibernate the apps I dont want running in the background is nice.
I was wondering if there is a way other than either disabling or freezing system apps. If I remove them, it causes settings to fc. This has held true since the 4.4 update. I usually always get ride of apps to free up more space, RAM, ect...
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As I know you can only disable system apps(as I do) but they are still there and without root you can not completely delete or modify system apps, which is basicly leaves you with a custom rom.
If it's force closing when you disable them then the best thing you can do is just install a custom Rom and kernel. If you like stock then I suggest Nexus 5 Experience with Franco kernel.
I use an app called systemapp remover. In 4.3, maybe theres an update.
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I was wondering if there is a way other than either disabling or freezing system apps. If I remove them, it causes settings to fc. This has held true since the 4.4 update. I usually always get ride of apps to free up more space, RAM, ect...
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You can use any file explorer(Solid File Explorer) to uninstall system apps. Titanium Backup to freeze them.
Hey guys sorry for not responding sooner. The problem is that I am rooted and running a custom ROM. There are still certain thing I get ride of (NFC, or calendar storage for example) that I just never use. I've tried on stock, PSX, and Purity with the same results. Remember I'm uninstalling them not freezing or disabling.
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Hey guys sorry for not responding sooner. The problem is that I am rooted and running a custom ROM. There are still certain thing I get ride of (NFC, or calendar storage for example) that I just never use. I've tried on stock, PSX, and Purity with the same results. Remember I'm uninstalling them not freezing or disabling.
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Try uninstaling foreign keyboards , wallpapers e.t.c. Also I have 100mb+ of system space free so I guess your phone is similar so why do you need more. I can understand deleting system apps to get more free ram and space on cheap budget phone's with little of both. The likelihood of you needing to free up either on this phone is slim at best my guess never. Just my thoughts as I am interested in why your doing this.
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Try uninstaling foreign keyboards , wallpapers e.t.c. Also I have 100mb+ of system space free so I guess your phone is similar so why do you need more. I can understand deleting system apps to get more free ram and space on cheap budget phone's with little of both. The likelihood of you needing to free up either on this phone is slim at best my guess never. Just my thoughts as I am interested in why your doing this.
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Honestly, I just always have. I have about the same free space as you. I just like having the option of taking the things off of my phone that I don't want on there. What if I did want bone stock, I would be stuck with all that bloat wear. I just always considered it as one of the reasons for rooting your phone.
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Honestly, I just always have. I have about the same free space as you. I just like having the option of taking the things off of my phone that I don't want on there. What if I did want bone stock, I would be stuck with all that bloat wear. I just always considered it as one of the reasons for rooting your phone.
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I know where you're coming from as its something I have always done until getting this phone. Don't no what the problem is as all apps I uninstall have been o.k. I always freeze first to make sure there's no surprises then uninstall. You could try greenify from play and put them to sleep if having problems. That said I have no answer to you're specific problem.
Just keep them if its causing problems and enjoy you're phone knowing it can handle the extra unwanted apps.
You could always flash a vanilla android rom ( there's a few about ) with banks minimum gapps and that should do the trick. Just install the apps you need
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Yeah, I'm running Purity with the very minimal banks gapps and the system apps I don't use disabled. It doesn't really bother me. I had asked the same question when 4.4 was first released and I guess figured there was a work around by now. No biggy. Thanks for your incite:thumbup:
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OK, it is now out of control. I need to access Yahoo mail but here is one of the latest permissions just released:
RECORD AUDIO (Microphone):
"Allows the app to record audio with the microphone. This permission allows the app to record audio at any time without your confirmation".
I suspect the reason for this is to enable voice search, but the above statement allows a whole lot more.
In the past week or so I have been seeing a lot of these ridiculous permissions. I guess the battle to monetize on your personal information is heating up drastically.
So, can anyone recommend an app that they are using with the stock ROM, rooted, that I can either selectively per installed app or permanently disable access to the hardware (microphone, camera, etc.). It would be nice if the app works with all other non-hardware related permissions as well. I see there are apps for custom ROMS (Xposed, PDdroid), but I really don't want to install everything on my phone from scratch again, and the stock rooted ROM does everything that I need.
Xposed with app ops. Works great. xposed works fine on stock rom
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Xposed with app ops. Works great. xposed works fine on stock rom
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Thanks. Just installed it and works great.
I try to deny as many permissions as possible. Most apps work perfectly fine even though most permissions have been denied.
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I try to deny as many permissions as possible. Most apps work perfectly fine even though most permissions have been denied.
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I was wondering about that. I actually tried this out on a few, and the apps kept on working. The only problem I see with all of this is that most apps update automatically and the authors are constantly sneeking in new permissions. This is going to become a maintenance nightmare. Can I at least prevent apps from automatically updating so I can check them out one at a time before I update, which would help out a little?
You can disable automatic updates in the play store settings. You'll just get a notification of new updates available so you can check them first.
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You can disable automatic updates in the play store settings. You'll just get a notification of new updates available so you can check them first.
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Great, I never even knew there were settings in there.
Today I switched from AppOppsXposed to Xprivacy. Because in AppOppsXposed the apps were spread all over the place under different heading categories, and repeated under different headings in some cases, it was a bit of a pain trying to locate all the apps. Xprivacy is better set up in that regard, has much finer controls, several global settings options, and in most cases instead of blocking data it sends fake data, thus reducing the chance of an app not working or crashing. It was incredible the massive amount of things I was able to block, with no affect on any of the running apps.
Hi All,
Im a noob.But my dilemma is since I opted to install the ota update that popped up when I got my Note 4. I am now unable to uninstall Instagram. All i can do is disable it. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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Yes.
Instagramm is pre-installed (system app) and can't removed without root.
Just disabling works
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Disabling it is really almost just as good as uninstalling it. My problem is with Evernote, I can't even disable that one. I really hate that program, and if anything will make me root it would be to get rid of evercrap.
Thank you guys for the help. The Note 4 is taking me some time to adjust to. I'm coming from the Note 3, I thought the transition would be a lot smoother. I like to use themes for my facebook, twitter and instagram- making it a bit more feminine but I don't know if it's possible since instagram is now a stock application. Sheesh!!
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The app being installed on system shouldn't affect themes or anything? The app can still be modified and updated, just not uninstalled.
How disabling the app helps?
If you disable notifications and syncing in the app, why disable the app?
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The app being installed on system shouldn't affect themes or anything? The app can still be modified and updated, just not uninstalled.
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Oh okay that's really all I wanted to do was add a theme to make it look cute. Thank you!
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I have every possible app disabled at this point, however you can't download and install a new or custom version of IG I've tried at least 5 diff times ... :\ I'm going to end up rooting to unog my bloatware I suppose. If you figure it out let me know.
Hey guys, i was wondering if some of you may know what systems apps that are draining precious battery life are safe to hibernate using greenify ? Thanks
Get package disabler, I am not sure how accurate or how current the database is but it's able to tell you what bloatware is safe to block.
The best thing is there isn't a root requirement it requires enabling usb debugging, clearing accounts and using ADB sideload to give the program permission to disable services but it is a pretty fantastic app.
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nhariamine said:
Hey guys, i was wondering if some of you may know what systems apps that are draining precious battery life are safe to hibernate using greenify ? Thanks
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Why do you need a third party app marshmallow has its own.
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