Unroot after rom flash? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm interested in flashing the Google Play Edition Rom to my Galaxy S4 I9505.
The walk throughs seem simple enough.
I've noticed that you need to root your phone it install the roms. After install is it possible to Unroot your device once your running the GPE rom? As I know some apps such as banking apps don't run on rooted devices.
Thanks
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grifflee said:
I'm interested in flashing the Google Play Edition Rom to my Galaxy S4 I9505.
The walk throughs seem simple enough.
I've noticed that you need to root your phone it install the roms. After install is it possible to Unroot your device once your running the GPE rom? As I know some apps such as banking apps don't run on rooted devices.
Thanks
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If you need to lock ur phone back I mean unroot
Just use triangle away app then flash the stock odin version of your phone with specific region.
And you can get it from sammobile
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You don't necessarily have to run stock to run "unrooted", because even some custom ROMs come without superuser priviledges. If you're talking about a specific ROM that comes stock rooted (which most are), then you might be able to get by if you simply disallow root access to that specific program. Otherwise, there are apps like Hide My Root which are supposed to help you do what you're trying to accomplish. If I were you, I would set it up and try it out on the actual program(s) you're worried about. It would be a shame to stay on stock just because you weren't sure if it would work.

You can temporarily unroot your device using super user app itself.. check it out in settings

Thanks a lot for all of the replies, you've been a great help.
I've not got round to rooting or flashing the GPE rom yet might do it this week.
This is my 1st time doing this so a little uncertain on some little things.
I know about uprooting, getting TWRP running, using Odin, then flashing the ROM. but just read that the ROM needs a new modem file flashing. Can you do this through TWRP or as I'm thinking do it through Odin after I've got the ROM up and running?
Thanks again for all your responses guys, been a great help
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[Q] Sprint Galaxy s4 Recovery

Is there not a recovery for the Galaxy s4 yet on Sprint. I was able to root my phone on a mac but I was not able to get a recovery "cwm or twrp". If there is a way to get it on my phone via mac please let me know so i can reroot my pone.(unrooted because without recovery i could not flash a rom)
xArchAngelx777 said:
Is there not a recovery for the Galaxy s4 yet on Sprint. I was able to root my phone on a mac but I was not able to get a recovery "cwm or twrp". If there is a way to get it on my phone via mac please let me know so i can reroot my pone.(unrooted because without recovery i could not flash a rom)
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You should probably take a look around. It's a few touches away.
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Have you tried installing one using your phone?
There is custom recoveries available. go to the Android Development forum and go to Shabbypenguins OUHDS recovery thread, and it provides excellent instructions on installing the recovery and then on installing root on it. Then your ready to go to flash roms. Right now Unknownforce's Force Rom is the only TW rom, and Slim bean is the only AOSP rom in beta - though alpha builds for CM, PA, and AOKP are currently being worked on by a great dev and should be up and running soon enough!
EDIT: CM is actually in Beta as well at the moment!
And personally I have never had a mac, nor nothing anything about the limitations of using a mac using these methods, so you should definitely look into it if it is different at all.
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xArchAngelx777 said:
Is there not a recovery for the Galaxy s4 yet on Sprint. I was able to root my phone on a mac but I was not able to get a recovery "cwm or twrp". If there is a way to get it on my phone via mac please let me know so i can reroot my pone.(unrooted because without recovery i could not flash a rom)
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If you want a recovery without a computer. Download Goo manager from the play store. This will give you twrp recovery.
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Go to settings on this app and select install open Recovery script
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TWRP has a few issues with it still that they are trying to work out. Primarily some touch sensitivity problems. I recommend going with OUDHS until they get worked out.
I will also be switching to TWRP as well once it's quirk free!
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thanks all for the information. i was hoping cwm or twrp were stable and good to go but i will try these out until i can get a stable one. hopefully more s5 roms will be coming soon.
How did you unroot? I rooted my SG4 and want to go back to stock, ( haven't installed a rom yet) because I am giving the phone to my husband to use and I want it back to factory so he can use it the way he wants without having any issues because it is rooted If you could help I sure would appreciate it!
jb4kats said:
How did you unroot? I rooted my SG4 and want to go back to stock, ( haven't installed a rom yet) because I am giving the phone to my husband to use and I want it back to factory so he can use it the way he wants without having any issues because it is rooted If you could help I sure would appreciate it!
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pretty sure stock rom is posted here just flash it.
jb4kats said:
How did you unroot? I rooted my SG4 and want to go back to stock, ( haven't installed a rom yet) because I am giving the phone to my husband to use and I want it back to factory so he can use it the way he wants without having any issues because it is rooted If you could help I sure would appreciate it!
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If you are not worrying flash counter problems. Then choose a stock rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252855
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[Q] Google play edition dump will work on this phone?

I know that the att galaxy s4 has the same exact hardware as the Google play galaxy s4, so if someone dumped that phone, bootloader and all, and flashed it to att model, would it unlock the bootloader and would it run that rom alright? I kind-of want to have the updates not directly from att so I could get stuff like the app2sd quicker.
Thanks, Tommy
tommydrum said:
I know that the att galaxy s4 has the same exact hardware as the Google play galaxy s4, so if someone dumped that phone, bootloader and all, and flashed it to att model, would it unlock the bootloader and would it run that rom alright? I kind-of want to have the updates not directly from att so I could get stuff like the app2sd quicker.
Thanks, Tommy
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Locked boot loader is in the hardware, no matter what you flash, it won't change that. Having said that, there are several roms floating around, give one a try as they still work on our devices, I would not trust a raw dump as that might have a different boatloader that will screw the phone ge
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Thanks for reply, and my next question now is when you flash a custom TW rom, would I still lose IR, air view, and air gesture? Would I also have to wipe my phone in process of flashing it?
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tommydrum said:
Thanks for reply, and my next question now is when you flash a custom TW rom, would I still lose IR, air view, and air gesture? Would I also have to wipe my phone in process of flashing it?
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It depends on the Rom. Some won't, others will. The Google edition is a tw Rom, but brings the look, feel and functionality of asop. You will have to research the Rom.
It's often necessary to wipe a phone when changing roms. If you start flashing, I would almost count in it being needed
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tommydrum said:
I know that the att galaxy s4 has the same exact hardware as the Google play galaxy s4, so if someone dumped that phone, bootloader and all, and flashed it to att model, would it unlock the bootloader and would it run that rom alright? I kind-of want to have the updates not directly from att so I could get stuff like the app2sd quicker.
Thanks, Tommy
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I attempted yesterday and received a kernel error on my ATT S4.
Thanks again
It depends on the Rom. Some won't, others will. The Google edition is a tw Rom, but brings the look, feel and functionality of asop. You will have to research the Rom.
It's often necessary to wipe a phone when changing roms. If you start flashing, I would almost count in it being needed
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Well thanks for help, but I will do anything to avoid a wipe, that's the last thing I want to so, even with titanium backup I don't feel secure enough to risk wiping and restoring it. I also don't want to raise the flash counter any if I ever need to use my warranty. And I don't trust that flash counter reset thing because it could brick phone.
tommydrum said:
It depends on the Rom. Some won't, others will. The Google edition is a tw Rom, but brings the look, feel and functionality of asop. You will have to research the Rom.
It's often necessary to wipe a phone when changing roms. If you start flashing, I would almost count in it being needed
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Well thanks for help, but I will will so anything to avoid a wipe, that's the last thing I want to so, even with titanium backup I don't feel secure enough to risk wiping and restoring it. I also don't want to raise the flash counter any if I ever need to use my warranty. And I don't trust that flash counter reset thing because it could brick phone.[/QUOTE]
Then stay stock. If you're going to flash a rom you have to do wipes most of the time. If you don't you'll end up with lots of problems that will force you to start all over. Just make a nandroid backup in your recovery before flashing and you'll be able to get right back to where you started if you have a problem.
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[Q] Forced MF3 Update

Greetings XDA,
Recently my AT&T Galaxy S4 took the MF3 update without my permission.
Questions I have:
1. Is it possible to remove this update?
2. Is it possible to unroot the S4 with this update?
3. How limited does this update make my device?
it's also worth mentioning I've had issues with getting audio in basic phone calls.
p.s Thank you for reading and responding,
-Nightfrost-
Nightfrost95 said:
Greetings XDA,
1. Is it possible to remove this update?
2. Is it possible to unroot the S4 with this update?
3. How limited does this update make my device?
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1. No, as of right now, there is no way to downgrade from MF3
2. Unroot, I don't believe so. Root, yes. Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473747
3. Pretty limited, at least as far as custom ROMs go. You can only install TW based ROMs for right now. You can still do all the awesome stuff that a normal rooted phone can do, but if you screw something up, there's no way to flash a clean, stock version of TW without taking it to Best Buy and having them restore it.
Have you tried supersu and triangle away it. Supersu has the option to full unroot after you use triangle away.
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DO NOT USE TRIANGLE AWAY ON MF3.
I flashes a temporary recovery.
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Rooting from Kitkat

Hello, I've been doing a bit of research on my own, and I haven't found any straight answers. Recently, I downloaded the leaked Verizon Kitkat OS. From what I hear, this is the build I should be staying on. That's great and all, but I was wondering if there is any way for me to be able to root from 4.4.2 and be able to install some custom roms. Sorry if this is redundant in any way to what you guys normally see on here, but I am really confused on where all to start with this rooting process.
Also, I've seen people running custom roms on kitkat on the SM-900V, so I know it's possible. I just need a guide for dummies on how to do it.
Thanks again
The best way to root kitkat is installing twrp and when you boot system it asks if you want to root.
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Philfactor said:
Hello, I've been doing a bit of research on my own, and I haven't found any straight answers. Recently, I downloaded the leaked Verizon Kitkat OS. From what I hear, this is the build I should be staying on. That's great and all, but I was wondering if there is any way for me to be able to root from 4.4.2 and be able to install some custom roms. Sorry if this is redundant in any way to what you guys normally see on here, but I am really confused on where all to start with this rooting process.
Also, I've seen people running custom roms on kitkat on the SM-900V, so I know it's possible. I just need a guide for dummies on how to do it.
Thanks again
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Use towelroot method then install latest superuser from chainfire website and then install safestrap. After you've done this you will be able to flash some custom TW roms. You cant get AOSP roms on the vzw retail note 3 yet because the bootloader is still locked.
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[Q]Want GPE, but can't get custom recovery - Help please! :(

Hey guys... Before I get into this, I would like to say that i'm very new to this whole rooting thing, so please forgive me for my lack of knowledge on various terms and such, and I'm a first time user here at xda.
What's written below might get a little bit complicated so i will try to make it as detailed as possible. Please bare with me here.
So I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 sgh-i337 (AT&T) running on android 4.4.4 (with touchwiz, you guys know the deal). I really wanted stock android lollipop, because I really like the look and feel to it. When I decided to root the phone, I went through many tutorials and I tried many different methods, and none of them worked. The phone still worked fine, but SuperSU was not installed and Root Checker said the phone was not rooted. After scouring the internet, I found one tutorial that had my S4 type and the same version. At that point I realized that my android version was hindering my rooting process. The tutorial used Odin to flash a kernel (NC1), root the phone using towelroot, install SuperSU, (Root Checker too to check if it worked), and then flashing the original kernel again (my original kernel was NJ4). After following this process, my phone was rooted, and everything worked fine.
As I said before, I wanted a GPE ROM, and so I needed a custom recovery. I decided to install CWM, since most GPE ROMs used this specific recovery. Again, I followed many different tutorials, and after each and every one, I would try to go into Recovery mode, and it would just launch the stock recovery. I found another tutorial on another website that involved flashing the recovery from an app in the google play store, so I decided to try it out. I now regret this as it led to more problems. I followed these instructions, and when launching into recovery mode from that point on, I get the yellow triangle with the error message "System software is not authorized by AT&T"
Sure, I could get around it by going into download mode from there, canceling, and it would reboot like normal, and the phone still worked, but I needed to get ride of that error message.
Once again doing my research, I figured out that if I flash a stock firmware specific to my phone, it will reset the phone (the only stock firmware available has android version 4.2.2, which is a really popular version, and is compatible with most custom recoveries and ROMs, so I decided to flash the firmware, as it would also change the version back, right?) When I flashed it using Odin like the directions said, it failed. i then figured out that it failed because my binary counter is not 0. I looked into resetting the binary counter for the AT&T S4, and I found Triangle Away. However, in order to reset your binary counter, you need an unlocked bootloader, and the AT&T S4 (sgh-i337) has a locked bootloader (I don't want to use Triangle Away if it's going to brick my phone, i'd rather unroot and keep touchwiz than brick). In the process of finding this out, I also figured out that the only custom recovery that you could use on a locked bootloader S4 sgh-i337 is SafeStrap. But i heard when using SafeStrap you are limited as far as ROMs go? Would I be able to get a GPE 5.0 Lollipop ROM with SafeStrap? Cause if not I might just unroot using SuperSU and software update my phone (will that fix the error when trying to get to Recovery mode?) Also, if I install Safestrap, will it fix the error message?
Again, sorry for my inexperience in all of this, and thanks for staying with me here. Any help and additional information on what I should do (or any GPE Lollipop ROMs I should use that are compatible with my phone and version and such), as well as any links to tutorials are greatly appreciated (also, keep in mind that all of the vocab I know when rooting is used in this post, I am not aware of most other terms - again, forgive me).
You wrote a lot but I'm not sure what state your device is in right now and what you want to do. But as you've found out, safestrap is the only custom recovery you can use. And touch wiz based roms are the only ones you can use. Afaik there are no 5.0 custom roms you can use at this time.
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jd1639 said:
You wrote a lot but I'm not sure what state your device is in right now and what you want to do. But as you've found out, safestrap is the only custom recovery you can use. And touch wiz based roms are the only ones you can use. Afaik there are no 5.0 custom roms you can use at this time.
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Oh, thanks for the help! The phone currently works fine, and it is rooted, but when I go into Recovery Mode it gives me the yellow triangle with the error... Will installing SafeStrap fix that? Regardless, thanks for the help, really do appreciate it!
jd1639 said:
You wrote a lot but I'm not sure what state your device is in right now and what you want to do. But as you've found out, safestrap is the only custom recovery you can use. And touch wiz based roms are the only ones you can use. Afaik there are no 5.0 custom roms you can use at this time.
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Also, if i were to update the phone to the next version (i heard there is a way to bump the S4 up in android version) would that reset the error in Recovery Mode? And I also heard that with SafeStrap, you are limited to ROMs on the same android version as the one on your phone? I really like 5.0, but if it's not possible to get it as the moment (and I haven't found any 5.0 ROMs for the sgh-i337 yet - you were right) i might just unroot using SuperSU and just update my version, unrooted and all. I'd rather have my phone be nice and clean than to have root on it with a corrupted recovery mode, and not make use of the root at all (I've seen other ROMs and I prefer 5.0). I might just try to make the phone feel as close to stock as possible by using more google apps and such (keyboard, messages, etc.). Regardless, thanks for the help and additional input, really do appreciate it!
EvilLemon said:
Also, if i were to update the phone to the next version (i heard there is a way to bump the S4 up in android version) would that reset the error in Recovery Mode? And I also heard that with SafeStrap, you are limited to ROMs on the same android version as the one on your phone? I really like 5.0, but if it's not possible to get it as the moment (and I haven't found any 5.0 ROMs for the sgh-i337 yet - you were right) i might just unroot using SuperSU and just update my version, unrooted and all. I'd rather have my phone be nice and clean than to have root on it with a corrupted recovery mode, and not make use of the root at all (I've seen other ROMs and I prefer 5.0). I might just try to make the phone feel as close to stock as possible by using more google apps and such (keyboard, messages, etc.). Regardless, thanks for the help and additional input, really do appreciate it!
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I would recommend you flash the nb1 tar file in Odin. That'll bring your device to like new. Then you can let it ota nj4. There are root methods for nc1 and nj4. See this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56453100
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jd1639 said:
I would recommend you flash the nb1 tar file in Odin. That'll bring your device to like new. Then you can let it ota nj4. There are root methods for nc1 and nj4. See this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56453100
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Thanks so much! I followed the instructions and now my phone is back to normal, Recovery mode and all! Really do appreciate it, thanks!
EvilLemon said:
Thanks so much! I followed the instructions and now my phone is back to normal, Recovery mode and all! Really do appreciate it, thanks!
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No problem. I'm glad you got it working again
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