Halfway to the SIP functionallity - Moto X General

Today I've played a little with the native SIP. I found out that the file "android.software.sip.voip" is missing. I pushed this file to etc/permissions, changed permissions to rw-r-r and voila! - after rebooting the missing internet calling part appeard in my dialer settings menu. I managed to set my voip provider credentials and enabled SIP. I called a few numbers and apparentlly got the connection (the called person confirmed it and i can saw it in my voip billing list) but nobody could hear the other one and dialer was frozen. it is not the common SIP issue, i can use CSIPSIMPLE without any problems. I'm attaching the missing file if somebody is interested in further research regarding native voip on moto x.

I tried enable the native SIP settings using a Xposed module. The behavior was the same, SIP account connected, no sound and Phone app frozen.
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I wondered where the Internet Calling menu had gone... I've got a Verizon developer edition and figured that Verizon stripped the settings. I may have to give this a try as well to see if I get the same outcome.

Mike7143 said:
I wondered where the Internet Calling menu had gone... I've got a Verizon developer edition and figured that Verizon stripped the settings. I may have to give this a try as well to see if I get the same outcome.
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You surely get the same outcome. Try it, you've got nothing to loose. You can always get back with just deleting the file. Sadly getting internet settings option is not enough to activate voip. something else is missing. Either there is no voip codec or the whole part is corrupted.

Have you tried the Sipdroid app? I haven't attempted any VoIP stuff yet, just thought I'd ask.

Mike7143 said:
Have you tried the Sipdroid app? I haven't attempted any VoIP stuff yet, just thought I'd ask.
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I'm using the Csipsimple now. Works flawlessly. But I belived that native SIP as a part of the Android system might work even better.

Yep, added the xml and got the same results, I can make the call, called person gets the call, but then dialer freezes, have to FC it and there's no sound. It's like the xml file is there to make the setting populate in the dialer's settings menu, but there are other parts missing that handle the audio. Also noticed that the pause, mute, and speakerphone buttons don't "work". Like, you can click them, but they don't do anything.

Just a question, so I can expand my knowledge base.
What is the importance of VOIP on a cell phone?
Slapped the sh*t out of my X

lowvolt1 said:
Just a question, so I can expand my knowledge base.
What is the importance of VOIP on a cell phone?
Slapped the sh*t out of my X
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When I go to another country I use VOIP to all my calls. It is much more cheap.
Some free services (here in Brazil called 0800 calls) don't work with cell phones, but there is no problem with VOIP.
In some forms I need a wired phone number, because they don't accept cell phone numbers. The VOIP number is ok.
My VOIP number is from my local area. So, if I am in USA, Egypt or Japan, anyone from my Brazilian local area can call me with a local call. They pay the same price to call me on the other side of the planet or to call the neighbour across the street.
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lowvolt1 said:
Just a question, so I can expand my knowledge base.
What is the importance of VOIP on a cell phone?
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Say you live in a place with terrible service, not just bad 4G or 3G, but everything bad service. Or perhaps say when you're at work and your building sucks and you get no service... but these places you do have Wi-Fi. For me, this is work; the building sucks, I get no service, but we have Wi-Fi. With VoIP you can place calls via the internet if you don't have service. I can still place and receive calls to my VoIP number on my phone if I have Wi-Fi and have airplane mode on and Wi-Fi enabled. Except the Moto X on Verizon doesn't seem to support it, they want you to use their networks.

When the first couple of users reported their "internet calling" option missing I thought, well, it could be due to some carrier-restrictions since most devices were either att or some other us-carrier. Now I got my moto x unsubsidized and I see no "internet calling" in the dialer options either.
This sucks because I seriously don't see anything else wrong with this phone and not being able to call people abroad for the price of a chewing gum per hour.. bummer.
Does anyone know if the CM dialer has the same restriction?

bergwitza said:
When the first couple of users reported their "internet calling" option missing I thought, well, it could be due to some carrier-restrictions since most devices were either att or some other us-carrier. Now I got my moto x unsubsidized and I see no "internet calling" in the dialer options either.
This sucks because I seriously don't see anything else wrong with this phone and not being able to call people abroad for the price of a chewing gum per hour.. bummer.
Does anyone know if the CM dialer has the same restriction?
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I read reports on other forums where users experience the same sip symptoms as of Moto X. Considering that I got an idea that KitKat (at least 4.4.) has somehow broken sip functionallity as a system. It seems that is not intentionally deprived, rather reflects a malfunction. I can't find more logical conclusion adding all facts together. I had oportunity to see two different cases where sip/voip was removed from the android system by purpose before: either both xml files (sip and sip/voip) were missing or sip functionallity were stripped from framework-res.apk. Its true that Moto x originally lacks sip/voip xml file, but it permits adding this file. And having this file in dialer enables initiation of call what never occured in any of previous cases I described. Besides the totally same behavior is described on other KitKat phones. In fact I can't remember one single confirmations that sip works on any KiKat phone.
But I don't know how is it on 4.4.2. I'd really appreciate if someone, who has already gotten 4.4.2, checks whether sip works with that upgrade. And before add voip/sip xml I attached in my previos mail if it isn't there yet.

piskr said:
I read reports on other forums where users experience the same sip symptoms as of Moto X. Considering that I got an idea that KitKat (at least 4.4.) has somehow broken sip functionallity as a system. It seems that is not intentionally deprived, rather reflects a malfunction. I can't find more logical conclusion adding all facts together.
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There is at least one Nexus 5 bug report related to the native sip functionality on google code. A minor issue (echo) but it indicates that the Nexi can do native SIP..
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But I don't know how is it on 4.4.2. I'd really appreciate if someone, who has already gotten 4.4.2, checks whether sip works with that upgrade. And before add voip/sip xml I attached in my previos mail if it isn't there yet.
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My XT1052 was delivered with 4.4.2 and no "Internet Calling" here.. :|

bergwitza said:
There is at least one Nexus 5 bug report related to the native sip functionality on google code. A minor issue (echo) but it indicates that the Nexi can do native SIP..
My XT1052 was delivered with 4.4.2 and no "Internet Calling" here.. :|
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OK, if you're rooted, could you, please, push the attached file (unziped) to the etc/permissions and change permissions to rw-r-r? Then find and set voip in the dialer. Or anybody else, who is interested, could try.

Moto X Developer Edition, 4.4.2
Managed to get SIP working.
Attached is what you will need to copy to appropriate folders. Make sure that you checked all permissions
I also deleted android.software.sip.xml file (in System\etc\permissions)
Tested with SIPNET.RU, called myself and successfully had a chat with my own voicemail
hope this helps

Native SIP
Netizen said:
Moto X Developer Edition, 4.4.2
Managed to get SIP working.
Attached is what you will need to copy to appropriate folders. Make sure that you checked all permissions
I also deleted android.software.sip.xml file (in System\etc\permissions)
Tested with SIPNET.RU, called myself and successfully had a chat with my own voicemail
hope this helps
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Excellent! We obviously have working SIP with 4.4.2. Perhaps someone would ask what is the practical benefit of that. If you live between home and office and have a good mobile plan, there isn't any. But if you travel a lot, it might be completely different situation. Calling from anywhere in the world where you have internet connection of any kind for as low as a few of cents per minute is surely an advantage.:laugh:

Netizen said:
Moto X Developer Edition, 4.4.2
Managed to get SIP working.
Attached is what you will need to copy to appropriate folders. Make sure that you checked all permissions
I also deleted android.software.sip.xml file (in System\etc\permissions)
Tested with SIPNET.RU, called myself and successfully had a chat with my own voicemail
hope this helps
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Great news!
Now I wish I had root. But rooting without unlocking is only possible with 4.4 and below, right? Just in case somebody knows more than there is in the General forum.

Netizen said:
Moto X Developer Edition, 4.4.2
Managed to get SIP working.
Attached is what you will need to copy to appropriate folders. Make sure that you checked all permissions
I also deleted android.software.sip.xml file (in System\etc\permissions)
Tested with SIPNET.RU, called myself and successfully had a chat with my own voicemail
hope this helps
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Tried but did not work. Upon reboot I got "Android is upgrading...", then an endless series of crashes. Any hint?

ivlivs said:
Tried but did not work. Upon reboot I got "Android is upgrading...", then an endless series of crashes. Any hint?
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I had a similar problem when I used ES File Explorer to copy the files into place. I had to restore my phone from a backup.
It worked better when I copied the files using adb shell commands. I also used the adb shell to make sure the permissions on all of the files were chmod 644. I'm guessing it was the permissions that needed to be set correctly.
I now have Internet calling in the phone app, but I'm having a problem with the microphone. The audio comes through to me OK, but my voice going out is distorted. I'm not sure how to describe it. I sound "warble-y". The distortion affects all calls in the phone app, even those to an echo test number on my local network. There aren't many settings in the phone app, so I'm not sure what else I can do.
Other apps like CSIPSimple and Spare Phone don't have this problem, so I don't think it's my wifi. If it makes a difference, it's a Verizon Developer Edition running 4.4.2.
-Alan

Hi, thanks for sharing your experience. I have tested it myself and also found few issues:
1. SIP wont work on mobile data connection (on Nexus devices it doesnt matter what you use as data bearer, as long as connection is fast and stable enough). So, no WiFi - no SIP...
2. Once you start SIP call there is no icon or sign showing that this is a SIP call.
As for call quality, I called my mom yesterday and she didn't say it was bad, but I will test it again today and post my findings later.
OK, I can confirm now that SIP voice quality is bad and does sound very strange...

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Google Voice as voicemail crippled?

I haven't been able to get Google Voice to function as voicemail on the Aria, either by using the in-phone command, the call commands specified by the website, or the bootleg "type in the number" method that I used to get it working with my G1. There are actually commands missing from the call settings menu (the additional GSM call settings): principally the "call forwarding" commands. AT&T meddling, or am I missing something?
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I haven't been able to get Google Voice to function as voicemail on the Aria, either by using the in-phone command, the call commands specified by the website, or the bootleg "type in the number" method that I used to get it working with my G1. There are actually commands missing from the call settings menu (the additional GSM call settings): principally the "call forwarding" commands. AT&T meddling, or am I missing something?
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I have had no problem using GV as my voice mail and forwarded number as well.
Made sure i set it up on the website first then ran GV and set it up following the prompts. Skipping the step where i tried to change the voice mail settings automatiically. Use the settings option on the website to give me the # 004 # etc.. code which set up the forwarding without much problems.
When I go to Menu > Settings > Call > .., at the very bottom I see call forwarding, Call barring settings, Additional Settings, etc.
As for Google Voice, I don't believe you need to change anything using the settings within the Aria. For me, anyway, I left my voicemail settings intact on the Aria, and my calls still get directed to Google Voice (I figure by keeping the carrier voicemail settings, it'll default to that if Google Voice fails). So if you changed the voicemail settings ON the Aria (via Menu > Settings > Call > ..) then change them back to the AT&T settings?
Don't have the phone with me now, but when I tried the *004 etc# thing it returned some kind of incorrect code error message. I'll try it again tomorrow. I'm just glad to hear that's it working for someone.
Works for me using *004*.... method.
It failed for me thru the Google Voice App, but worked when I activated via the Google Voice website...make sure you type it in exactly as they tell you to on the website.
I did it a couple of times, and very carefully; got the same error message each time. So I don't know what's going on. I'll try it again tomorrow (it's not my phone). I do like the phone, however. It's a lot snappier than my G1 and I like the size. I don't think I'd miss the extra cpu or screen size of the nexus and I can get it for almost nothing; I'm thinking about it. But then there's that Legend...
I did it a couple of times, and very carefully; got the same error message each time. So I don't know what's going on. I'll try it again tomorrow (it's not my phone). I do like the phone, however. It's a lot snappier than my G1 and I like the size. I don't think I'd miss the extra cpu or screen size of the nexus and I can get it for almost nothing; I'm thinking about it. But then there's that Legend...
Hmmm... well, Google Voice began working immediately for me on my non-rooted Aria, after I installed GV and did the set-up (coming from a Nexus). It sometimes has trouble deleting messages from voicemail, but that's about it. I didn't touch anything, and GV was one of the first apps I installed.
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Hmmm... well, Google Voice began working immediately for me on my non-rooted Aria, after I installed GV and did the set-up (coming from a Nexus). It sometimes has trouble deleting messages from voicemail, but that's about it. I didn't touch anything, and GV was one of the first apps I installed.
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Calling out to Google Voice voice mail may not work correctly if you rooted and used fluffy's original app sideloading procedure, which has since been fixed. There was an 'android_id' problem with the original method. I think non-rooted users should be okay.
Unfortunately, they only way I know of to correct the android_id problem is to wipe data (restore factory settings) and start fresh, and then use the new sideloading patch. This uses your existing settings and not someone else's.
When I did that, at least all off my downloads showed up in android market so all I had to do was redownload and install them. It saved a lot of searching for the apps I had downloaded previously.
The HTC dialer can be quirky somethings. I would try *004*+12223334444# where that is the GV number, the plus may help I am not sure though.
If that doesn't work call 611 and have them forward unanswered and rejected calls to you GV number. They can set the option on there end since it isn't phone dependent, but rather dependent on the network.
I did a wipe and reinstalled, used the new sideloading method and still cannot get GV to work. Getting a MMI error code.. Tried adding the + in as well, no luck.
I have now tried everything mentioned. Any attempt to dial the google code, with or without the "+", returns: Connection problem or invalid MMI code.
Any attempt to change the call forwarding numbers returns: "Unexpected response from network."
I'm glad it's working for everyone (nearly) else, but it just isn't here. I talked to an att rep; they didn't have a clue. I suppose I'll have to try another one...
Okay, I finally found a tech at att who could sort it out. And while he was doing so -- it took a while -- he admitted he himself didn't know what network quirk made it not work the way it should in my case.
So for anyone else with this unexplainable, network problem: persevere until they bump you up to a serious tech.
klyon said:
Okay, I finally found a tech at att who could sort it out. And while he was doing so -- it took a while -- he admitted he himself didn't know what network quirk made it not work the way it should in my case.
So for anyone else with this unexplainable, network problem: persevere until they bump you up to a serious tech.
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Glad to hear you got it worked out, was it on their side or did you have to do something to the phone?
Why are some of you guys sideloading GV? It's in the market. Install it from there.
I don't think it is that we are sideloading it, it was the original sideloading "fix" that was posted may have had something to do with the GV issue, at least that was the hope for me, but I still cannot get it to work.
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Glad to hear you got it worked out, was it on their side or did you have to do something to the phone?
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It was completely on their side. And they couldn't even explain why it wasn't working the way it should.
I just called AT&T because my regular VM wasn't working, callers were getting a fast tone busy when I was on the line, also call forwarding wasn't working. They tinkered around a bit, turns out my VM number was in only one place where it is supposed to be in two, so it was a programming error. Once that was fixed I tried GV again and was able to set it up using the *004* method and it does now work! Hope this helps others...

Make calls with Sprint Galaxy Tab

The dialer is missing on the sprint version but I managed to get to it..kinda. I installed LauncherPro and HomeSmack. The dialer shows up but when I tap it, it opens Network Manager and gives the error "cannot make calls with the galaxy tab". Hopefully this is a clue that someone more experienced can use. Also there are some fishy apk's I found. If anyone wants a list, or actual apk files please message me.
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How are you going to make calls (if at all you somehow get that working) when you don't have a voice calling plan attached to it? The ESN is in the database as a data only device, so i see no point. This is a CDMA Tab.
It's not like the GSM models where you swap the SIM with one from a phone that has a voice/data plan attached to it.
It's assigned a phone number, so it is voice capable. This IS possible to do... but I don't want to try anything crazy until we get Sprint's stock firmware .tar in case I need to wipe completely from a screw-up.
Does anyone know when this will be released? I need it bad!
even to get it to work via Google voice would be nice.
I have hopes that there is a way to make it work. It seems the phone stuff is there, just disabled.
Looks like a Odin package is being made for the Sprint Tab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9752852&postcount=16
Additionally, you CAN make emergency calls from the Sprint tab. I've done it
So the capability is there.
I'm also dying to make calls on the sprint tab...really hope someone can help us out.......
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infamousjax said:
It's assigned a phone number, so it is voice capable. This IS possible to do... but I don't want to try anything crazy until we get Sprint's stock firmware .tar in case I need to wipe completely from a screw-up.
Does anyone know when this will be released? I need it bad!
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The point is not whether it is assigned a phone number (it's a CDMA device so it IS assigned an MDN on the network) or not but whether the account (in this case the Tab) can make and receive phone calls like under a normal plan.
Bump for the cause. I activated my Sprint Galaxy Tab in my country without problem but I still see the roaming icon and the legend "International". Is there a piece of sotware that informs the tablet that Im not using it in a Sprint network or inside EU?
Sorry but my knowledge of cellular networks is null.
i receive calls on spring galaxy tab
i got incoming calls on my sprint galaxy tab but i i dial a call the message comes up i did alot of changes to it trying to get it all working but i didnt realize that the incoming was working since i was only trying to make calls on it and last night someone called me and i was able to talk on it.
only incoming though
so now we know its for sure
with this its obvious that its possible to get outgoing since everything is all there i have my line on cricket and web works for a bit but it reverts back
i was messing with files of a galaxy s but they wont work anyone know how to
be able to install them on the tab i just copied them to my filesystem and they wont install
have you tried groove ip?
it has been working well for me
Hi, guys, what's groove ip?
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ManaKill said:
The dialer is missing on the sprint version but I managed to get to it..kinda. I installed LauncherPro and HomeSmack. The dialer shows up but when I tap it, it opens Network Manager and gives the error "cannot make calls with the galaxy tab". Hopefully this is a clue that someone more experienced can use. Also there are some fishy apk's I found. If anyone wants a list, or actual apk files please message me.
Sent from my SPH-P100 using XDA App
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Hello, would you share your dialer soft and phone apk, base on which modem file?
rsansores said:
Bump for the cause. I activated my Sprint Galaxy Tab in my country without problem but I still see the roaming icon and the legend "International". Is there a piece of sotware that informs the tablet that Im not using it in a Sprint network or inside EU?
Sorry but my knowledge of cellular networks is null.
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How to enable the phone function?
Im making calls off of mine and it works like a charm.just go to the market and buy groove ip or googlr it and get for free.it works with your google voice account.pair it up with your desires blutooth and your good to go.enjoy.
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I love grooveip. I don't understand why anybody looks for phone functionality at this point. Just use grooveip.
But I yours Tab is WiFi only, how can you make calls????
Check out groove ip and all your questions will answered.its really an awesome app
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Additionally, you CAN make emergency calls from the Sprint tab. I've done it
So the capability is there.
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How do you indicate your desire to place an emergency call? There's no dialer to even punch "911" into...
My clueless-noob side is surely showing, but this is something I'm very interested in, please forgive what's probably a silly question.
Sprint Galaxy Tab and GrooVe IP
I installed grooVe IP last night on my 7" Sprint Galaxy Tab. It was a little bit of a hassle because first you have to set up Google Voice. Then you need to download the Google Voice app and go through the setup. I rebooted my phone and was then able to get more setting adjustments on Google voice website on my desktop to set up my tablet. It seems that I can now make calls from my Tablet. I tried a few different numbers. 2 things I can't get to work is the bluetooth functionality (always comes out through tablet speakers even though "Bluetooth" is the only option selected) and being able to receive calls. I was reading on Google that they are currently working with Sprint to roll out selective call forwarding but that my number is not allowed at this time. Strange that it will let me make a call but not receive one. Anyone have a work around for this. I tried to set up my voicemail but I could never dial into my tablet to enter the activation code provided by Google. If I could get it to receive calls I would be ecstatic. I love being able to do a search on google for a business and when it shows the phone number, be able to call that person by touching the number and not having to do it from my regular phone. Especially when driving.

Removing Phone Svc / Keeping Data? [$50 Bounty]

I use a mobile application on my Incredible for work, and have no use for the phone number. I figured that by not giving the device's phone number out, this would result in a peaceful state where I could work without being bothered.
Unfortunately, I get about 3 calls (wrong numbers) a day, which cause me to escape out of my business' application.
Is there some way to disable the phone capability, while retaining the ability to use Verizon's mobile data network?
In other words, I'd still be using Verizon's network, I just don't want the phone-call feature. Neither for incoming OR outgoing.
I've searched but cannot find anything.
Thank you in advance!
-RKM
Added $50 Bounty for any suggestions that do the trick.
We have an in-house app running on DInc's and we desperately need this because .. wrong-numbers keep disrupting our user's workflow.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/mr-number-call-block/com.mrnumber.blocker
http://www.appbrain.com/app/blacklist/org.baole.app.blacklist
Would either of these apps work?
Switch the device to a data only plan maybe?
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Thank you for the reply.
@Andassaran - There does not seem to be such a thing as a "data only plan" with Verizon, according to them. They claim I have to maintain phone service as well.
@cuban11182 - As far as an *app* that stops calls, the best we've found is "Call Blocker Elite"; however, this still really isn't an ideal solution because it breaks the user out of their app.
Ideally... I would like to have a script that disables the phone-related apps, or does something so that incoming calls cannot come through, while leaving everything else in a working state.
If this is possible using a script that can be run on ROOT'ed phones to disable or "freeze" certain things, that would be fine too! Currently ... We run Titanium Donation on all phones, and I could freeze something if I knew it was not going to cause other problems.
Thank you again for your suggestions!
-RKM
Your best bet is probably to crack open the phone.apk and see if there's a line of code dealing with this in there. I'm pretty sure there is, just can't remember where exactly and I don't have my laptop with me.
PonsAsinorem said:
Your best bet is probably to crack open the phone.apk and see if there's a line of code dealing with this in there. I'm pretty sure there is, just can't remember where exactly and I don't have my laptop with me.
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PonsAsinorem - This is exactly the type of thing I'm looking for, would be happy to send the bounty if you can help me follow this to find a working solution.. Just one question to get started:
(1) Where do I get a source-code version of phone.apk for the DInc? And, do I have to be sure I'm using a special version based on my radio version?
Thank you,
RKM
Phone.apk is a file in your system/app directory. Based on, or in rather, your ROM, not your radio. It's been a minute since I've tweaked it, I'm almost useless right now at walking an inexperienced person through it without my laptop. Ihtfp69 is a lot more experienced at this, he just might help you if you ask nicely.
Pons- I'm sorry, I don't think I explained properly.
I'm aware of Phone.apk and its location, no problem there.
I was asking about (and am confused on this point): That .apk files are binaries that I cannot modify, and I have no idea where I'd get a source-code version of Phone.apk?
Within the apk itself is a classes.dex file which you use smali and baksmali to compile and decompile. So yes, you can modify it, but it does take a little effort. The hard part is figuring out what line does what.
if you have Titanium Backup Pro, use the freeze function to Freeze Phone.apk/Dialer.apk, this should work. If it stops working, flash back to a nandroid backup, which you should make before trying this.
Swyped from my HTC Desire running AuraxTSense 8.2 with Tapatalk.
I went to verizonwireless.com and choose change plan, then they had a messaging only plan. It was a plan just for unlimited messaging, don't know if you could add data to it, you would still have a phone number,but I don't think you can get calls, just txts.
@Pons- Perfect, thank you. I've tried Baksmali in the past, but the results were pretty obfuscated and I could not make sense of the output.
BTW - something just occurred to me ... will something other than phone.apk be responsible for receiving/fielding calls, then running phone.apk upon the "new call" event?
In an ideal world (if I'm going to be modifying apk's rather than simply enabling/disabling a setting), I'd like to only disable incoming calls. But.. It occurred to me the simple phone.apk mod would be in exiting/disabling outgoing calls.
@BodenM - I'm a bit sketchy about freezing phone (mentioned earlier), and was hoping to only use that in a worst-case scenario. If I cannot determine how to properly alter Phone.apk, I'll look for phone.apk again under Titanium (didn't find it the first time).
@TNS201 - That's an interesting idea. Perhaps there is a way of having a phone number, yet not receiving calls. If Pons idea doesn't work, and Titanium doesn't work, this will be my backup-plan. Thank you!
if you can't find phone.apk, try looking for "Dialer" or something similar.
Swyped from my HTC Desire running AuraxTSense 8.2 with Tapatalk.
Forward the VZ phone# to a bad phone number. Then callers will hear a carrier error. I believe this also keeps your phone from ringing, even keeps it from ringing once.
Your airtime on forwarded calls would be miniscule.
How to Use It
To Activate:
Press *72. Enter the phone number where you want calls to be forwarded. (e.g. *72-908-123-4567).
Press SEND and wait for confirmation. You should hear a confirmation tone or a message.
Press END.
To Deactivate:
Press *73. Press SEND and wait for confirmation. You should hear a confirmation tone or a message.*
Pess END.
Call Forwarding
Description
Forward your calls to another phone number, including your home or office number. Your wireless phone will not ring until you deactivate the service. Airtime applies to forwarded/transferred calls even if you send the call to wireline telephones. When forwarding calls to phone numbers outside your local calling area, you'll be billed for any toll, long distance, and airtime charges incurred. Additional per-minute charges may apply to all forwarded calls. This feature is also known as "Immediate Call Forwarding".
exactly what I was going to say
luvit said:
Forward the VZ phone# to a bad phone number. Then callers will hear a carrier error. I believe this also keeps your phone from ringing, even keeps it from ringing once.
Your airtime on forwarded calls would be miniscule.
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Exactly what I wasx going to say. If you don't wan't calls and don't give out the number, just have all calls FWDed to another #. No?
http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html
UPDATE:
Regarding a "Messaging Only" plan.
With 3G "Smartphones" (eg Android handsets), Verizon *only* available if medically Deaf or Mute, and they require a doctor's note.
Regarding the Fowarding. The first Verizon rep I had spoken with (about a year ago) claimed it was an extra cost. I just tried the instructions available on the web and so far it seems to be working. I wonder if this will remain active permanently without resetting itself. If so, this may be the best solution, despite being the most obvious..
Your forwarding wil utilize air time, which you have a set amount if minutes anyway. You will not exceed these minutes, so it wil l not cost you anything more than you are already paying. VZ does have an unadvertised plan of $50/mo, maybe even lower unadvertised plans, today.
This wil be awesome for you.
I'm luvit and I endorse this message.
How do I go about locating the "unadvertised" plan?
The reason I ask, I searched the 'net and spoke with 3 different Verizon reps today, and not one of them gave me any option for a data/messaging-only plan.
Another way you could do it, is use do not disturb call forwarding. It on your line already you just call VZW and have them enable it. I did this for one of my kids phone . The silence was bliss. Anyway just a thought.
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[Q] Someone give me a definative answer please

I keep seeing posts from various users here, as well as all over the internet, about how easy it is to get SMS up and going through WiFi and they describe various ways of accomplishing it, but none of them ever work for me. Can someone/anyone tell me once in for all rather its possible, and please describe (in detail if you please), how to do it?
Question: If I, or anyone else, was to decide to just wait for the WiFi ONLY Tabs to come out for this very purpose (texting via wifi), would we be wasting our time? I mean IF its not possible via wifi on the wifi/3G Tab, then we shouldnt expect it to work on the wifi ONLY Tab either right? Thanks in advance.
It is possible (and quite easy) to get SMS working over WiFi. If you have a google voice account, you can download the google voice app and use that to text people (or you can use other apps like textplus). That is the current setup that I have since I have no texting plan on my line.
Hope this helps,
caveman999
caveman999 said:
It is possible (and quite easy) to get SMS working over WiFi. If you have a google voice account, you can download the google voice app and use that to text people (or you can use other apps like textplus). That is the current setup that I have since I have no texting plan on my line.
Hope this helps,
caveman999
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Thanks for the reply. Google voice was one of those ways that I had read about already and for me it was not easy at all, and I could never get it to work. The last thing I read about setting that up was using le your home # for the Tab since it is not used for texting purposes...well, it didnt work for me. Maybe you could explain exactly how you set it up?
That app you mentioned I, I tried that a while back and my son told me he was flooded with advertisements...etc, so I dumped it.
Some help please....
Can't someone else give me some help here? This is driving me nuts. Why would using Google work for one and not for others? What could I be missing/doing that's possibly screwing it up?
Set up google voice and your wifi tab is ready to text. No extra ads or nothing like that.
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Set up google voice and your wifi tab is ready to text. No extra ads or nothing like that.
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Thanks for the reply. I've already set up google voice but cannot get it to function properly. That's what I meant when I said in my previous post "Why would it work for one but not others, what could I be missing/doing wrong to screw it up". I have followed all of the instructions on google website, I've put in the # to be used for my device, google has verified it, I've downloaded the app for my SG Tab, but it will NOT WORK. Perhaps you could explain in detail how exactly you set it up? I really don't know what else to do.
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Thanks for the reply. I've already set up google voice but cannot get it to function properly. That's what I meant when I said in my previous post "Why would it work for one but not others, what could I be missing/doing wrong to screw it up". I have followed all of the instructions on google website, I've put in the # to be used for my device, google has verified it, I've downloaded the app for my SG Tab, but it will NOT WORK. Perhaps you could explain in detail how exactly you set it up? I really don't know what else to do.
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unfortunately, Google voice is currently for USA ONLY, are you from us?
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unfortunately, Google voice is currently for USA ONLY, are you from us?
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Yes, I'm in the good ole U.S. of A. What else do you think may be going on? Thanks for your reply.
What am I to do after this point if....
I'm to this point (see attachment) and I'm trying to set everything up "for texting only" and what I've read is "use your home phone #" because it is not used for texting...etc. Well, when I get to the point of what the attachment shows, what the heck do I do? It doesn't seem like I would be able to use my voice phone line to do this, and I cannot use the SGT as I have no dialer??????
Have you tried opening google in the browser via your Tab and useing the provided dialer in google? I use it on my PC as my PC has no dialer either. I will try with my tab and edit this post if it works or not.
I know it's not quite the same, but you could try using "Whatsapp" from the market if all parties have either android or iOS devices.
I just tried your suggestion, well..I at least got on the tab and went to GV site, but then I noticed voice had been activated without me following through at that point shown in the attachment. Now I have another problem. When I sent a text to the tab from my Evo, my home phone rang and Sprint sent what's called a TTLL (Text to Land Line) call....so that's screwed up. I used my tab to try it the other way, but cannot see any way to even send a text, not online at the voice site and not on the tab with the voice app. So it looks like I'm still stuck at not being able to get this going. Really frustrating..
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I know it's not quite the same, but you could try using "Whatsapp" from the market if all parties have either android or iOS devices.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a go, and if it works, I think I can afford 2 dollars a year. I might just do that, thanks again.
EDIT: This won't work because it has to verify a number for your phone. The tab doesn't have a number.
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I'm to this point (see attachment) and I'm trying to set everything up "for texting only" and what I've read is "use your home phone #" because it is not used for texting...etc. Well, when I get to the point of what the attachment shows, what the heck do I do? It doesn't seem like I would be able to use my voice phone line to do this, and I cannot use the SGT as I have no dialer??????
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I have not used the setting "Forwad to Google Chat" and confirm that I'm able to send/receive text but I have my free phone number from IPKall and I'm able to send/receive text using GV account from the tab. Read the instruction in the Sprint VoIP call in Dev if you want to (find my post there).
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I have not used the setting "Forwad to Google Chat" and confirm that I'm able to send/receive text but I have my free phone number from IPKall and I'm able to send/receive text using GV account from the tab. Read the instruction in the Sprint VoIP call in Dev if you want to (find my post there).
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Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately this isnt working for me either. Im at the point of giving up now and just returning the damn Tab. I did all kinds of research on this prior to even buying the tab to at least try and make sure I could accomplish it. Most of what I found was "seemingly" possitive. Everyone makes it sound sooo damned easy to set it up and get it going, well its not, and I will go as far as saying that it isnt possible at all, for at least some, me being included in that latter bunch.
Sms was designed to be sent over cellular network and being associated with the phone number.
The number is also needed for GV. You might try Skype and get phone # and etc using it but its all far from comfortable. There are other services that might work as proxies for you but all cost some money.
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Sms was designed to be sent over cellular network and being associated with the phone number.
The number is also needed for GV. You might try Skype and get phone # and etc using it but its all far from comfortable. There are other services that might work as proxies for you but all cost some money.
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Thanks for the reply. I guess then that all of those posts that I've seen here, as well as all over the net, was just "bull". I say this only because of your comment about SMS being designed for cellular network, and only because these posts I'm talking about specifically say they got things up and running and are successfully texting on their SG Tabs via WiFi/Google Voice.
I suppose then that I should just forget about waiting for that WiFi only Tab because SMS would not work on that device either. I wouldn't mind spending some money to get this going, although I don't think that I would want to get into a contract or anything like that and be stuck spending on a monthly basis, which I think all of the Wirelss companies like Sprint make you do (not sure).
For SMS and voice phone on my Tmobile Tab I use prepaid voice only Sim. The tab was flashed with Euro ROM and works very smooth and giving me ability to place voice calls and send SMS if needed. It costs me money but no monthly obligations.
BTW, I can send Sms using Sim card from my phone as well.
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For SMS and voice phone on my Tmobile Tab I use prepaid voice only Sim. The tab was flashed with Euro ROM and works very smooth and giving me ability to place voice calls and send SMS if needed. It costs me money but no monthly obligations.
BTW, I can send Sms using Sim card from my phone as well.
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I guess I couldn't do anything like that correct? Is there a difference between T-Mobile and Sprint Tabs .... besides what may be the obvious, like I know Sprint is CDMA, not sure of T-Mobile. Anyway, do you think the same type of setup is possible with my Sprint device? If so, could you please describe how I would go about setting it up? Feel free to PM me if you like/want about this topic. Thanks

Force activate Google Voicemail on your Pixel/XL

Edit: Perhaps using the word (Re)activate would clear some confusion. I chose to use 'Activate' since I had been unable to get my existing Google Voice account up and running on my Pixel from day one. These were the steps that I personally used, with Verizon as my carrier, to (Re)activate or "jump start" my existing Google Voice account to run on my Pixel. For me personally, this was the only thing that worked. And at the moment it seems to be working for others as well. As mentioned below, the full setup for Verizon may be different, and the full setup and "reactivation" for lack of a better word, is indeed different for other carriers, could be similar, I honestly don't know.
I'm on Verizon, but this should work for any carrier -
1. Go to Google Voice on PC, click the 'Settings' cog/hamburger icon
2. Under the 'Phones Tab' it will say 'Forwards calls to:' you should see your phone's phone number and under that click 'Edit'.
3. Click 'Show Advanced Settings' still under 'Phones Tab'.
4. Scroll down to 'Forwarding Options' and click 'Activate'.
5. Now you should have a pop-up window with instructions to call your GV number. Mine (Verizon) instructs me to add a *71 in front of my GV number -
*71555-555-5555 - then click send and follow the prompts when your phone rings.
6. Enjoy Google Voicemail again.
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In addition to all this, here are some additional steps I had to take in order to get Google Voice to stick. I believe these instructions from this point on are Pixel specific, but please do not quote me on this -
Additional Steps (I took) to get Google Voice up and running on the Pixel (the following steps will be done from your phone)
1. Head to the Phone app, swipe over to Voicemail and approve Visual Voicemail.
2. Then head to GV app and go to Settings and check on Voicemail Display.
3. While still in GV, run through your Sync and Notifications and check what applies to you.
4. Then return to your Phone app (your voicemail may go a little crazy at this point due to syncing, mine does), go to Settings>Calls and turn off Video Calling and Voice Privacy.
5. Then go to your overall phone settings for the phone itself, and tap More>Cellular Network Settings and turn off Advanced Calling.
I think that is everything. If anyone has any additional input at all, that'd be helpful. Come to think of it, a per carrier set of instructions would be nice if anyone would like to help...just throwing this out there, if it already exists, a link would be nice.
Thanks
Each carrier has a different way to setup call forwarding, so your instructions will only work for Verizon. People on other carriers will need to find the proper dialing sequence to forward missed calls properly. I also think there is another number to call to set it up properly on Verizon, so you're missing a step. Finally, this isn't Pixel specific, so it would be better suited in a more general forum, and there is likely another thread that has all this info in it already.
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or just install the GV app on your device, and set it up.
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or just install the GV app on your device, and set it up.
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I've been using GV since early 2010, I've used it on all my phones. The Pixel was the first phone I had come across where no matter what I did to try configure it, Verizon VM would hold true, even as far as Google Dialer telling me GV was the voicemail I had chosen, and GV settings was also saying the same. This was Pixel specific and others I had talked to were dealing with the same the thing. Long story short, after several days of trying anything and everything I could think of to get it to work, these were the exact steps I took to make it work and to make it stick. Installing the app didn't work for me, manually configure didn't work, nothing but this worked, and since I noticed a few others dealing with similar issues, I posted this. It doesn't seem to be widespread among all Pixel users, but I knew I wasn't the only one, so if it helps a few people, cool. If it doesn't work, we'll try to figure something else out.
The call forwarding sequence on Verizon isn't Google Voice specific, you could use it to forward to any number.
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Each carrier has a different way to setup call forwarding, so your instructions will only work for Verizon. People on other carriers will need to find the proper dialing sequence to forward missed calls properly. I also think there is another number to call to set it up properly on Verizon, so you're missing a step. Finally, this isn't Pixel specific, so it would be better suited in a more general forum, and there is likely another thread that has all this info in it already.
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Please see my response to uicnren as well.
1. This was very Pixel specific for me and the others I had talked to. This was the only phone we had had problems setting up GV on.
2. I should have been more clear, this is for existing accounts, this isn't setting up GV from scratch.
3. These were the exact steps I took.
4. One person I spoke with said he was on Sprint and that the *71 I use for Verizon was indeed a different number, but the same setup nonetheless, I should have been more clear about that.
5. Thanks for input, and in pointing out more clearly that it could be a completely different setup among carriers.
6. And finally, next time something as broad as this could be (again, it wasn't for me, but you make a good point) I will post in a more general area.
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The call forwarding sequence on Verizon isn't Google Voice specific, you could use it to forward to any number.
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That's true, and I agree completely. However I wasn't trying to convey that, I was just pointing out the steps that I personally used, with Verizon as my carrier to (re)activate or simply get GV to work as my voicemail again for the Pixel. And the reason I said it should work for other carriers is because someone using Sprint used essentially the same method, but with a different "beginning" number added to their GV number. I guess my question to you is, should I have pointed out what you said? If so, why?
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Each carrier has a different way to setup call forwarding, so your instructions will only work for Verizon. People on other carriers will need to find the proper dialing sequence to forward missed calls properly. I also think there is another number to call to set it up properly on Verizon, so you're missing a step. Finally, this isn't Pixel specific, so it would be better suited in a more general forum, and there is likely another thread that has all this info in it already.
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Thank you!!! Been doing this for about 5 years+
This is nothing new and tells you how to do it on the Google Voice Site! :angel:
You can also do it from a PC on the Verizon wireless site. My Verizon has a screen to program call forward for busy no answer.
The full setup for Verizon call forwarding to get Google voice working is to dial
*71 your GV number
*90 your GV number
*92 your GV number
This has been the same issue since at least as far back as the Galaxy Nexus.
atlp99 said:
The full setup for Verizon call forwarding to get Google voice working is to dial
*71 your GV number
*90 your GV number
*92 your GV number
This has been the same issue since at least as far back as the Galaxy Nexus.
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I had the Galaxy Nexus and didn't have to do this setup. I've had Google Voice since the HTC Droid Eris, and I can tell you that was not how I initially set mine up, I called one number and done. In fact, in the last almost 7 years I've never used the *71 method one time, aside from maybe the initial setup. For what it's worth, all I had to do was click "manually configure", then back out of the phone app, then it would load me directly into google voice and it would begin syncing everything. And that was it, every phone, every time, for 7 years. The *71 deal was completely new to me.
This worked great! I can now get the phone to translate everything to me without even listening to my voicemail!
Only one issue though, I only receive the translation through text message, hangouts and email... How do I get the translation to come up in the actual voicemail app through google stock dialer?? My voicemail's show up but it doesn't translate them?? any clue?? In settings I have Visual Voice enabled also...
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I had the Galaxy Nexus and didn't have to do this setup. I've had Google Voice since the HTC Droid Eris, and I can tell you that was not how I initially set mine up, I called one number and done. In fact, in the last almost 7 years I've never used the *71 method one time, aside from maybe the initial setup. For what it's worth, all I had to do was click "manually configure", then back out of the phone app, then it would load me directly into google voice and it would begin syncing everything. And that was it, every phone, every time, for 7 years. The *71 deal was completely new to me.
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We're you on Verizon?
This was all Verizon specific.
evobyte said:
This worked great! I can now get the phone to translate everything to me without even listening to my voicemail!
Only one issue though, I only receive the translation through text message, hangouts and email... How do I get the translation to come up in the actual voicemail app through google stock dialer?? My voicemail's show up but it doesn't translate them?? any clue?? In settings I have Visual Voice enabled also...
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Great, glad it worked for you! Here you go, this should help out some -
Google Voice settings, check voicemail display, then run through your sync and notifications and check what applies to you. Then return to your phone app, go to settings>calls and turn off video calling and voice privacy. GV will not work with these on. Then, go to your overall settings for phone itself, and click more>cellular network settings and turn off Advanced Calling. I think that is everything.
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Great, glad it worked for you! Here you go, this should help out some -
Google Voice settings, check voicemail display, then run through your sync and notifications and check what applies to you. Then return to your phone app, go to settings>calls and turn off video calling and voice privacy. GV will not work with these on. Then, go to your overall settings for phone itself, and click more>cellular network settings and turn off Advanced Calling. I think that is everything.
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This is for Verizon so there is no confusion.
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We're you on Verizon?
This was all Verizon specific.
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Yeah, all Verizon. What were the other two numbers you had? Not *71
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Yeah, all Verizon. What were the other two numbers you had? Not *71
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They are conditional call forwarding,
One is no answer,
One is busy,
One is if the phone is unreachable
If I remember correctly the specific types of call forwarding.
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They are conditional call forwarding,
One is no answer,
One is busy,
One is if the phone is unreachable
If I remember correctly the specific types of call forwarding.
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I don't know why I find this so cool, but I do. It's kind of like those secret/hidden numbers you can dial to access even more settings or whatever. Where did you find this? I never knew this existed.
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I don't know why I find this so cool, but I do. It's kind of like those secret/hidden numbers you can dial to access even more settings or whatever. Where did you find this? I never knew this existed.
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This was all from Google support forums for Google voice originally. Verizon doesn't allow the Google voice app to change the call forwarding settings to automatically set up voicemail, this is just manually changing the same settings.
I've got the numbers saved now so I don't look them up every time I get a new phone.
FYI - Verizon now supports Visual Voicemail on Android 7.1+ for those of you using this as a workaround to get VVM on your Pixel. Functions perfectly with the stock dialer.

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