I use a mobile application on my Incredible for work, and have no use for the phone number. I figured that by not giving the device's phone number out, this would result in a peaceful state where I could work without being bothered.
Unfortunately, I get about 3 calls (wrong numbers) a day, which cause me to escape out of my business' application.
Is there some way to disable the phone capability, while retaining the ability to use Verizon's mobile data network?
In other words, I'd still be using Verizon's network, I just don't want the phone-call feature. Neither for incoming OR outgoing.
I've searched but cannot find anything.
Thank you in advance!
-RKM
Added $50 Bounty for any suggestions that do the trick.
We have an in-house app running on DInc's and we desperately need this because .. wrong-numbers keep disrupting our user's workflow.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/mr-number-call-block/com.mrnumber.blocker
http://www.appbrain.com/app/blacklist/org.baole.app.blacklist
Would either of these apps work?
Switch the device to a data only plan maybe?
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
Thank you for the reply.
@Andassaran - There does not seem to be such a thing as a "data only plan" with Verizon, according to them. They claim I have to maintain phone service as well.
@cuban11182 - As far as an *app* that stops calls, the best we've found is "Call Blocker Elite"; however, this still really isn't an ideal solution because it breaks the user out of their app.
Ideally... I would like to have a script that disables the phone-related apps, or does something so that incoming calls cannot come through, while leaving everything else in a working state.
If this is possible using a script that can be run on ROOT'ed phones to disable or "freeze" certain things, that would be fine too! Currently ... We run Titanium Donation on all phones, and I could freeze something if I knew it was not going to cause other problems.
Thank you again for your suggestions!
-RKM
Your best bet is probably to crack open the phone.apk and see if there's a line of code dealing with this in there. I'm pretty sure there is, just can't remember where exactly and I don't have my laptop with me.
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Your best bet is probably to crack open the phone.apk and see if there's a line of code dealing with this in there. I'm pretty sure there is, just can't remember where exactly and I don't have my laptop with me.
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PonsAsinorem - This is exactly the type of thing I'm looking for, would be happy to send the bounty if you can help me follow this to find a working solution.. Just one question to get started:
(1) Where do I get a source-code version of phone.apk for the DInc? And, do I have to be sure I'm using a special version based on my radio version?
Thank you,
RKM
Phone.apk is a file in your system/app directory. Based on, or in rather, your ROM, not your radio. It's been a minute since I've tweaked it, I'm almost useless right now at walking an inexperienced person through it without my laptop. Ihtfp69 is a lot more experienced at this, he just might help you if you ask nicely.
Pons- I'm sorry, I don't think I explained properly.
I'm aware of Phone.apk and its location, no problem there.
I was asking about (and am confused on this point): That .apk files are binaries that I cannot modify, and I have no idea where I'd get a source-code version of Phone.apk?
Within the apk itself is a classes.dex file which you use smali and baksmali to compile and decompile. So yes, you can modify it, but it does take a little effort. The hard part is figuring out what line does what.
if you have Titanium Backup Pro, use the freeze function to Freeze Phone.apk/Dialer.apk, this should work. If it stops working, flash back to a nandroid backup, which you should make before trying this.
Swyped from my HTC Desire running AuraxTSense 8.2 with Tapatalk.
I went to verizonwireless.com and choose change plan, then they had a messaging only plan. It was a plan just for unlimited messaging, don't know if you could add data to it, you would still have a phone number,but I don't think you can get calls, just txts.
@Pons- Perfect, thank you. I've tried Baksmali in the past, but the results were pretty obfuscated and I could not make sense of the output.
BTW - something just occurred to me ... will something other than phone.apk be responsible for receiving/fielding calls, then running phone.apk upon the "new call" event?
In an ideal world (if I'm going to be modifying apk's rather than simply enabling/disabling a setting), I'd like to only disable incoming calls. But.. It occurred to me the simple phone.apk mod would be in exiting/disabling outgoing calls.
@BodenM - I'm a bit sketchy about freezing phone (mentioned earlier), and was hoping to only use that in a worst-case scenario. If I cannot determine how to properly alter Phone.apk, I'll look for phone.apk again under Titanium (didn't find it the first time).
@TNS201 - That's an interesting idea. Perhaps there is a way of having a phone number, yet not receiving calls. If Pons idea doesn't work, and Titanium doesn't work, this will be my backup-plan. Thank you!
if you can't find phone.apk, try looking for "Dialer" or something similar.
Swyped from my HTC Desire running AuraxTSense 8.2 with Tapatalk.
Forward the VZ phone# to a bad phone number. Then callers will hear a carrier error. I believe this also keeps your phone from ringing, even keeps it from ringing once.
Your airtime on forwarded calls would be miniscule.
How to Use It
To Activate:
Press *72. Enter the phone number where you want calls to be forwarded. (e.g. *72-908-123-4567).
Press SEND and wait for confirmation. You should hear a confirmation tone or a message.
Press END.
To Deactivate:
Press *73. Press SEND and wait for confirmation. You should hear a confirmation tone or a message.*
Pess END.
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Description
Forward your calls to another phone number, including your home or office number. Your wireless phone will not ring until you deactivate the service. Airtime applies to forwarded/transferred calls even if you send the call to wireline telephones. When forwarding calls to phone numbers outside your local calling area, you'll be billed for any toll, long distance, and airtime charges incurred. Additional per-minute charges may apply to all forwarded calls. This feature is also known as "Immediate Call Forwarding".
exactly what I was going to say
luvit said:
Forward the VZ phone# to a bad phone number. Then callers will hear a carrier error. I believe this also keeps your phone from ringing, even keeps it from ringing once.
Your airtime on forwarded calls would be miniscule.
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Exactly what I wasx going to say. If you don't wan't calls and don't give out the number, just have all calls FWDed to another #. No?
http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html
UPDATE:
Regarding a "Messaging Only" plan.
With 3G "Smartphones" (eg Android handsets), Verizon *only* available if medically Deaf or Mute, and they require a doctor's note.
Regarding the Fowarding. The first Verizon rep I had spoken with (about a year ago) claimed it was an extra cost. I just tried the instructions available on the web and so far it seems to be working. I wonder if this will remain active permanently without resetting itself. If so, this may be the best solution, despite being the most obvious..
Your forwarding wil utilize air time, which you have a set amount if minutes anyway. You will not exceed these minutes, so it wil l not cost you anything more than you are already paying. VZ does have an unadvertised plan of $50/mo, maybe even lower unadvertised plans, today.
This wil be awesome for you.
I'm luvit and I endorse this message.
How do I go about locating the "unadvertised" plan?
The reason I ask, I searched the 'net and spoke with 3 different Verizon reps today, and not one of them gave me any option for a data/messaging-only plan.
Another way you could do it, is use do not disturb call forwarding. It on your line already you just call VZW and have them enable it. I did this for one of my kids phone . The silence was bliss. Anyway just a thought.
Edit: sorry the last few post didn't load so I miss this already being discussed.
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For anyone interested, there is a method that will give you visual voicemail on any phone/pda with direct push capabilities in the USA.
1. Goto www.callwave.com and sign up for their FREE voicemail service (US ONLY)
2. If you don't have access to an exchange server already (for Direct Push mail) sign up for free access at www.mail2web.com, or any place you'd like, I use mail2web because it's free
3. Now, log into your callwave phonepage (link in on the top right on main callwave page) and goto settings. Enter your mail2web (or whatever) address as your email address. then goto (I think.. accounts) the far right tab. Disable text messaging notification (unless you want that as well) and enable email notification. Check the box to have it attach a .wav file of the message.
4. Set up activesync on your pda/phone.... goto messaging and options, select outlook e-mail. Enter the server and login information for whatever exchange server you set up.
Now, open activesync on your device and and goto menu - schedule. I prefer to have mine sync when new items arrive, that way as soon as a new message comes in you'll get it.
Ok, now you should be all set, sorry if I missed anything, post any questions and I'll try to respond quickly.
*** Reasons this is awesome ***
1. If you are transfering data when a call comes in, it will notify you of missed call/voicemail while you are still transfering.
2. Person call doesn't even have to leave a message, you can have it notify you of any missed call, so if your phone is off when you turn it on you'll see all calls, not just voicemails.
3. Callwave actually transcribes the voicemail, so in the body of the email you recieve will be an attempt at speech to text of the voicemail.
4. Voicemail messages are archives online at your Callwave PhonePage, so you can go back and search for old voicemails by typing anything from that voicemail in the search box
5. You can still call in to get messages just like standard voicemail, personal greeting and all that (just call your own # from your phone)
6. If the person calling has a blocked/private # it will still show the number in the email!
I also did a reg edit of the "friendlyname" Outlook E-mail. so my today screen says: Voicemail : 1 new msg
With this method you basically have iphone like visual voicemail, you goto your inbox and pick which ever message you want to hear, click the attachment and it opens in you media player. Or you can get an idea of what the message is about just by reading the text of the email.
Sorry if anyone of this is hard to understand, writing in a hurry because I'm at work.
Post any questions/comments.
-Matt
Any programmers out there
One other thing..
Don't know if it's possible, but if there are any programmers out there that could make an application that would run on the pda that could connect to callwave and allow you to listen, delete voicemails. They have widgets/gadgets that you can add to google/yahoo/Vista that do that, is there anyway to incorporate that into a pda application??
This does not, under any circumstances, work with Sprint. Just FYI.
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This does not, under any circumstances, work with Sprint. Just FYI.
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There is no reason in the world this will not work with sprint..it doesn't even have anything to DO with sprint....the only part you might have to do different is find out how to set "conditional call forwarding" to forward all calls when phone is busy to the new voicemail phone #. All the poster has presented is a method to have voicemails routed to email..the only difference between callwave and other services like k7.net and simulsays.com is that callwave currently is beta testing a "voice to text" transcription service and includes a "mostly readable" text version of the attached wav voicemail. When they start charging I can switch over to a free service like k7.net in about 5 minutes and the voice to text is the only part I will lose.
Yes, in theory you are correct. However, as you will clearly see on the CallWave website, they work with everyone BUT Sprint, because Sprint refuses to provision customer accounts to have this type of forwarding. And I can verify this, as I spent 1.5 hours of my time today, through 2 levels of tech support (3 different reps) all of whom ultimately came back and said "impossible".
From the CallWave Activation widget itself (from their website):
"CallWave works with most major carriers including Cingular, Verizon and TMobile. Unfortunately activation is not available for Sprint."
If someone has another method for using the service through Sprint, I would love to hear it.
Sorry about that...looked into it further and you are 100% correct. You CAN do call forwarding but it would end up costing you alot. Apparently sprint charges .10 to .20 a minute for call forwarding and gives you NO free conditional call forwarding minutes. Seems all the other providers have SOME method to do it. Bummer.
Ok..here is one post where they said they had it working and csr got it working for them again...
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1481614&postcount=7
FYI, I had conditional call forwarding for my busy and no answer calls enabled for my sprint phone so that I could use youmail for voicemail and they also stopped working recently with no explanation.
The codes to enable them (*73 and *74) also no longer work and give an error.
I had to call Sprint and they were able to do it for me I just had to give them the number I wanted to forward to. The rep said that she didn't know about the old instructions but that she had gotten alot of calls recently of people with the same problem so she guessed that something had changed recently where you are no longer able to set this yourself. She didn't have any other information but my conditional call forwarding is working again so I'm happy.
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meatlocker said:
Yes, in theory you are correct. However, as you will clearly see on the CallWave website, they work with everyone BUT Sprint, because Sprint refuses to provision customer accounts to have this type of forwarding. And I can verify this, as I spent 1.5 hours of my time today, through 2 levels of tech support (3 different reps) all of whom ultimately came back and said "impossible".
From the CallWave Activation widget itself (from their website):
"CallWave works with most major carriers including Cingular, Verizon and TMobile. Unfortunately activation is not available for Sprint."
If someone has another method for using the service through Sprint, I would love to hear it.
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So basically someone listens to your voicemail and then sends you the 'gist' of it? Sorry, I really don't need someone listening to my work voicemail and I don't think my patients would like that either.
Why on earth would you think they are listening to your voicemail? Have you never heard of speech recognition?
I think it might be exceedingly cost-ineffective to hire staff to transcribe a million voicemail messages. Thankfully some nice gentleman invented computers to make these tasks easier.
fluxist
I didn't think the internet would work on a P.B. 386sx, it is 2007!
fluxist said:
Why on earth would you think they are listening to your voicemail? Have you never heard of speech recognition?
I think it might be exceedingly cost-ineffective to hire staff to transcribe a million voicemail messages. Thankfully some nice gentleman invented computers to make these tasks easier.
fluxist
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Exactly, it is completely computerized, the text of the voicemail is not all that accurate. If it was typed out by a person listening to your voicemail that person would have to a complete moron. That feature is useful only to give you an idea of what the voicemail is about, it's more entertaining to read them than it is useful however.
wow
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So basically someone listens to your voicemail and then sends you the 'gist' of it? Sorry, I really don't need someone listening to my work voicemail and I don't think my patients would like that either.
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patients? you telling us you're a doctor? I really hope you are better at your profession than you are at grasping modern technology.
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patients? you telling us you're a doctor? I really hope you are better at your profession than you are at grasping modern technology.
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Actually I am a therapist and I understood it wrong - OH MY GOD, I READ IT WRONG SO YOU MUST BE THE NEXT BILL GATES AND KNOW ALL ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND NEVER READ ANYTHING WRONG.
Because I am concerned about my patients privacy and you joke, that is sad. I would like to see how fast you would have a lawsuit if you had an illness and that information was available to the general public.
i have an 8125 with WM6 but im not familiar with direct push...although i do get my gmail emails on my phone...can i do this?
stolli said:
i have an 8125 with WM6 but im not familiar with direct push...although i do get my gmail emails on my phone...can i do this?
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You can still do it, but you would only get message notifications via email by checking your email. Direct push means that the server sends email to your phone without you needing to check it. Microsoft Exchange servers do direct push.
Callwave does offer SMS notification though, can't see why that wouldn't work.
There are some other features with Callwave, not sure how usefull they are, but they are interesting.
You can initiate a call from "in the middle" making both your cell and the destination ring, or home phone for that matter, you can also answer the call on your PC , with the paid service.
So not overly usefull but , some nice tech ...
but didnt older versions of wm5 have direct push? i recall something about that...and is htere any way to have direct push with wm6?
for some reason i could never sign up for a callwave account, i assume its cause I am in canada.
whenever i put my # in it tells me to input a valid mobile phone number
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One other thing..
Don't know if it's possible, but if there are any programmers out there that could make an application that would run on the pda that could connect to callwave and allow you to listen, delete voicemails. They have widgets/gadgets that you can add to google/yahoo/Vista that do that, is there anyway to incorporate that into a pda application??
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I'm all about writing a plug-in or app that will do for windows what AT&T and Aple are getting sued for on iPhone.
I'm driving myself batty trying to figure out how I can intercept the network signals from the carrier to the device which are used as a notification of new voicemail. From the patents I've read on the existing technolgy, it's possible to get everything but the message itself from the signal. I don't want to speek to soon, but there's an ID that's transmitted as part of this message it supposedly the "unique" on the message in YOUR VMail box.
If anyone has any tips on how I can intercept that message, even if you only know the protocol....that would be a huge help.
I've tried intercepting SMS already and left a VM for myself and NOTHING! I'm still playing with it though. I think that I maight have been watching for the wrong message types. I might need to trap for RAW (priority=0, for you regedit nuts out there)
Later,
-D
good stuff i have a wizard but i just set it up so i'm goin to check it out
should come in handy since i don't get all my calls sometimes
I gotta admit this is pretty damn cool so far..
Biggest plus is seeing missed calls when my phone is off and seeing block #'s
awesome thanks for the heads up
Haven't tried callwave yet but I've been using Simulsays visual voicemail on my 8525 for a while now.
AT&T claims that Verizon 3G doesn't permit web data searches at the same time that a voice phone connection is going on. Is that true? Why? How inconvenient is this? Is there any problem multitasking data activities, e.g., downloading email while downloading a web page?
short answer is yes
Verizon and AT&T use different technologies. Verizon CDMA. AT&T uses GSM. CDMA doesn't allow voice and data simultaneously. However, it is really a non issue as most people don't surf the web and talk on the phone at the same time. It's really not that intuitive to do. But, multitasking in general is reliant on the phone's operating system. Winmo allows for multi tasking and HTC helps it be even more managable with their task master tool and the addition of allowing the "X" to either close programs or minimize them.
Basically, AT&T is just mad about VZW's "there's a map for that" commercials and because their lawsuit was thrown out. What AT&T doesn't tell you is that their most popular phone, the iphone, doesn't allow multi tasking of any kind and that is by apple's design.
edit: To answer you about data: you can email and surf the web with no problem as they both use data connection.
I wonder if you use both the CDMA and GSM radios can you talk and surf at the same time?
Verizon is CDMA only, and ATT is GSM only. You can turn on GSM and CDMA at the same time, but only one will be used depending on the network.
Hmmm, does this mean that I need to hang up the call if I need to do a Google search? Say someone calls me and wants to meet me at a specific bar... do I need to hang up do a Google search for the bar location and call them back to tell them that I now know how to get there?... With my AT&T phone I do this without having to hang up the call. I also reference Yelp based on My GPS Location frequently as I talk to friends via speaker phone about restaurants or bars near by. I guess this requires two way data and GPS location to work simultaneously... Can the Imagio do this?
my .02 is if you are on the phone with a friend or business associate and they invite you somewhere that you dont know the location of, ask them. i would be pretty offended if on a personal or business call the other person was tapping away at their phone browsing the web. i get my texts during calls thats enough for me. and like it was said, their most popular phone, the iphone cant even multi-task.
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my .02 is if you are on the phone with a friend or business associate and they invite you somewhere that you dont know the location of, ask them. i would be pretty offended if on a personal or business call the other person was tapping away at their phone browsing the web. i get my texts during calls thats enough for me. and like it was said, their most popular phone, the iphone cant even multi-task.
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So, if you call someone to ask them for a phone number that's stored in their phone... you'd would rather have them hang up and call you back because you'd be "offended" by the tapping as they search for the phone number you asked for? I get a few calls a week from people asking me for phone numbers... I open my contacts list, find the number and give to them... without hanging up... so far, no one has been offended. When I do a Google search while talking, as a matter of courtesy, I let the person on the other end know what I'm doing. Btw, I don't own an iPhone.
If I make a phone call to ask specifically for information that is traditionally and typically stored in a phone, I obviously wouldnt be offended. The example regarded a very specific situation: pointless internet searches (ie: googling an address instead of asking the person who you are currently on the phone with that invited you) its simply poor conversation skills to say "hang on im going to use the internet while i keep you on the phone" instead of "wheres joes bar again?"
I hardly ever talk on my phone and I don't think I've ever even thought of using my data connection while on the phone.
Seems kinda stupid to me anywho
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So, if you call someone to ask them for a phone number that's stored in their phone... you'd would rather have them hang up and call you back because you'd be "offended" by the tapping as they search for the phone number you asked for? I get a few calls a week from people asking me for phone numbers... I open my contacts list, find the number and give to them... without hanging up... so far, no one has been offended. When I do a Google search while talking, as a matter of courtesy, I let the person on the other end know what I'm doing. Btw, I don't own an iPhone.
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You neglected to add that in A LOT of cities your phone can't even get a signal to talk or go on the web to help anyone find something.
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You neglected to add that in A LOT of cities your phone can't even get a signal to talk or go on the web to help anyone find something.
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Let's no compare apples to oranges... I know and understand the shortcomings of the AT&T's network signal and the inability of some so-called Smartphones that do not multitask... For me a Smartphone is a device that allows me accomplish several tasks. Having the ability to perform some of these tasks simultaneously (assuming voice/data signal availability) is what I'm talking about. If I'm talking on the phone and the person on the other end wants a picture or a document that I have stored on my phone... I like the convenience of being able to send it without having to hang up. It's not a show-stopper for me, but it's a nice feature to have.
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If I make a phone call to ask specifically for information that is traditionally and typically stored in a phone, I obviously wouldnt be offended. The example regarded a very specific situation: pointless internet searches (ie: googling an address instead of asking the person who you are currently on the phone with that invited you) its simply poor conversation skills to say "hang on im going to use the internet while i keep you on the phone" instead of "wheres joes bar again?"
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I do not assume that what anyone else wants to do with their phone is "pointless". I use my phone features in certain ways and you can use yours as you please. Some devices are a better fit for you and others for me. As I look for a replacement for my AT&T phone and want to find out the +/- of the devices that appeal to me.... I ask questions about their features.
Poor conversation skills? You are assuming quite a bit about the specific situation I mentioned... The person that called me did not know how to get to the bar... I Goggled it and found the directions from the location where he originated the call. I helped him get to where we were going to meet... Poor communications skills?... Doubt it... I did it all without having to interrupt the conversation.
Totally legit scenario tamanaco, and I'm with you. I just did a quick test calling my desk phone. I was able to multitask on my Imagio while connected (e.g. was able to navigate to contacts to look up a phone #, launch apps, etc.). BUT I was not able to use a data connection. I was able to launch the Opera browser, but was not able to navigate to any web page successfully. So forget looking up directions online while talking.
FWIW, I haven't run across this issue in the real world, but none-the-less it bums me out a little that I can't do voice & data at the same time.
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So, if you call someone to ask them for a phone number that's stored in their phone... you'd would rather have them hang up and call you back ...
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You _can_ launch any other application, including looking up phone numbers in your contact list, while on the Imagio.
One cute feature is that if you pull out the stylus while on the phone, it automatically launches the notepad app, with the person's name, number and time of call filled in. Then you can write notes either with the stylus or type them in. Pretty handy, especially if you're in a field that needs diagrams. You can also add a recording.
You just can't search on the internet for those numbers while talking. Well, unless you're using a VoIP app like Skype. Then you can do both voice and data simultaneously even on Verizon. I've done it.
Here's my scenario,
I'm receiving calls from 3 people that are annoying, I'm not looking for to block these people, but looking an app that can REDIRECT these SELECTED CALLERS to the number of my CHOOSING.
please help me find an app that forwards calls (THAT DOES NOT TAMPER WITH VOICEMAIL)
Thanx in adv.
I hear that phoneAlarm does this from pocketMax.
http://www.pocketmax.net
just tried it, and did find anything regarding call forwarding.
anyone else????
This won't help with your scenario, but might be useful for future reference.
Google Voice offers this functionality by default. You can send those callers to another number, or straight to voice-mail, or block them entirely if you choose.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any WinMo apps that will do that.
Not sure if MagiCall will help you. You can set up custom rules for each number.
Worked great when I was getting annoying calls.
I normally was using Magi call, but have it under hang up and drop. Problem is that it hangs up a second later (they can still hear my background and notice that it the call is being hanged up for the 1 second).
I have tried about 2-3 apps that they are suppose to block the call, instead it send s them to voice mail (I don't want them to have access to my voice mail) or does hang up immediately. Only if there is a TRUE CALL BLOCKER is would consider it.
I now focusing in finding a app that forwards these selected callers to any number of my choosing.
There has to be an app like this, someone hopefully comes through with that answer.
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just tried it, and did find anything regarding call forwarding.
anyone else????
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I'm looking for the same thing and PhoneAlarm Pro does support this feature from what I've read. I downloaded the Pro version and installed it. But after restart, it will get stuck on the main screen and nothing else will show. I waited for a while to see if it will load but nothing ever happened and I kept restarting over and over. I finally ended up doing a hard reset. I'm running on the Leo Cell Evo v5 rom tmobile and I don't know if it has something to do with it, but I don't feel like flashing to another rom to see if it works for me so I'll just leave it alone and let someone else figure it out.
I haven't been able to get Google Voice to function as voicemail on the Aria, either by using the in-phone command, the call commands specified by the website, or the bootleg "type in the number" method that I used to get it working with my G1. There are actually commands missing from the call settings menu (the additional GSM call settings): principally the "call forwarding" commands. AT&T meddling, or am I missing something?
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I haven't been able to get Google Voice to function as voicemail on the Aria, either by using the in-phone command, the call commands specified by the website, or the bootleg "type in the number" method that I used to get it working with my G1. There are actually commands missing from the call settings menu (the additional GSM call settings): principally the "call forwarding" commands. AT&T meddling, or am I missing something?
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I have had no problem using GV as my voice mail and forwarded number as well.
Made sure i set it up on the website first then ran GV and set it up following the prompts. Skipping the step where i tried to change the voice mail settings automatiically. Use the settings option on the website to give me the # 004 # etc.. code which set up the forwarding without much problems.
When I go to Menu > Settings > Call > .., at the very bottom I see call forwarding, Call barring settings, Additional Settings, etc.
As for Google Voice, I don't believe you need to change anything using the settings within the Aria. For me, anyway, I left my voicemail settings intact on the Aria, and my calls still get directed to Google Voice (I figure by keeping the carrier voicemail settings, it'll default to that if Google Voice fails). So if you changed the voicemail settings ON the Aria (via Menu > Settings > Call > ..) then change them back to the AT&T settings?
Don't have the phone with me now, but when I tried the *004 etc# thing it returned some kind of incorrect code error message. I'll try it again tomorrow. I'm just glad to hear that's it working for someone.
Works for me using *004*.... method.
It failed for me thru the Google Voice App, but worked when I activated via the Google Voice website...make sure you type it in exactly as they tell you to on the website.
I did it a couple of times, and very carefully; got the same error message each time. So I don't know what's going on. I'll try it again tomorrow (it's not my phone). I do like the phone, however. It's a lot snappier than my G1 and I like the size. I don't think I'd miss the extra cpu or screen size of the nexus and I can get it for almost nothing; I'm thinking about it. But then there's that Legend...
I did it a couple of times, and very carefully; got the same error message each time. So I don't know what's going on. I'll try it again tomorrow (it's not my phone). I do like the phone, however. It's a lot snappier than my G1 and I like the size. I don't think I'd miss the extra cpu or screen size of the nexus and I can get it for almost nothing; I'm thinking about it. But then there's that Legend...
Hmmm... well, Google Voice began working immediately for me on my non-rooted Aria, after I installed GV and did the set-up (coming from a Nexus). It sometimes has trouble deleting messages from voicemail, but that's about it. I didn't touch anything, and GV was one of the first apps I installed.
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Hmmm... well, Google Voice began working immediately for me on my non-rooted Aria, after I installed GV and did the set-up (coming from a Nexus). It sometimes has trouble deleting messages from voicemail, but that's about it. I didn't touch anything, and GV was one of the first apps I installed.
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Calling out to Google Voice voice mail may not work correctly if you rooted and used fluffy's original app sideloading procedure, which has since been fixed. There was an 'android_id' problem with the original method. I think non-rooted users should be okay.
Unfortunately, they only way I know of to correct the android_id problem is to wipe data (restore factory settings) and start fresh, and then use the new sideloading patch. This uses your existing settings and not someone else's.
When I did that, at least all off my downloads showed up in android market so all I had to do was redownload and install them. It saved a lot of searching for the apps I had downloaded previously.
The HTC dialer can be quirky somethings. I would try *004*+12223334444# where that is the GV number, the plus may help I am not sure though.
If that doesn't work call 611 and have them forward unanswered and rejected calls to you GV number. They can set the option on there end since it isn't phone dependent, but rather dependent on the network.
I did a wipe and reinstalled, used the new sideloading method and still cannot get GV to work. Getting a MMI error code.. Tried adding the + in as well, no luck.
I have now tried everything mentioned. Any attempt to dial the google code, with or without the "+", returns: Connection problem or invalid MMI code.
Any attempt to change the call forwarding numbers returns: "Unexpected response from network."
I'm glad it's working for everyone (nearly) else, but it just isn't here. I talked to an att rep; they didn't have a clue. I suppose I'll have to try another one...
Okay, I finally found a tech at att who could sort it out. And while he was doing so -- it took a while -- he admitted he himself didn't know what network quirk made it not work the way it should in my case.
So for anyone else with this unexplainable, network problem: persevere until they bump you up to a serious tech.
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Okay, I finally found a tech at att who could sort it out. And while he was doing so -- it took a while -- he admitted he himself didn't know what network quirk made it not work the way it should in my case.
So for anyone else with this unexplainable, network problem: persevere until they bump you up to a serious tech.
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Glad to hear you got it worked out, was it on their side or did you have to do something to the phone?
Why are some of you guys sideloading GV? It's in the market. Install it from there.
I don't think it is that we are sideloading it, it was the original sideloading "fix" that was posted may have had something to do with the GV issue, at least that was the hope for me, but I still cannot get it to work.
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Glad to hear you got it worked out, was it on their side or did you have to do something to the phone?
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It was completely on their side. And they couldn't even explain why it wasn't working the way it should.
I just called AT&T because my regular VM wasn't working, callers were getting a fast tone busy when I was on the line, also call forwarding wasn't working. They tinkered around a bit, turns out my VM number was in only one place where it is supposed to be in two, so it was a programming error. Once that was fixed I tried GV again and was able to set it up using the *004* method and it does now work! Hope this helps others...
Hey guys, just came to the S4 from the One and still figuring some things out. Whenever I make a call [using the morst horrendous dialer ever seen on android], a small popup happens that says "conditional call forwarding active"... anyone know what that's about?
wow if you are flasher, don't tell torxx you switched--lol jk, we go back a long way and sent him beer money
that says your call will be forwarded if you are on phone call
if you go to call forward settings and select always forward, i think it will go to unconditional
there use to be a code on some phones to disable message--something like--##???--i don't remember and don't know what if anything works on s4--maybe google
the dialer will grow on you--i think--
welcome to the S4 MetalHead
If I set it to always forward, will it ALWAYS forward? Ie. will I not receive any calls then? It seems weird to me that you get a popup for what seems to be normal operation on any other phone. If I turn off all the options, will no one ever get my voicemail?
I used to be a flashaholic, nowadays I just find one ROM and stick to it. CleanROM was my goto on the One X and the One. I have the Active so there's nothing available for it yet, not even root I think. I know scrosler is over here now, hopefully he'll branch out and make us Active users a ROM.
I don't know if that dialer will ever work for me. Between the white and the big, colorful childish buttons when the call ends, and kiddie faces when there's no contact picture, it really takes away from the overall badass-ness of the device. I'm sure once we get ROMs, somebody will do something about those atrocities haha. I still love the phone, and in no way will I let those things piss me off to the point of annoyance. I barely talk on the phone anyway so it's not like I'm gonna be staring at it all the time.
yeah the message will be there unless I can remember where i saw the dialer code to disable it
right, we don't want to just disable call forwarding--it is annoying though because i get a sound with it too. assume they go together, but not looking at screen when i call
no custom roms yet. enjoying just the phone rooted with twrp
am sure one or two of the roms will get rid of stock dialer, just haven't looked close at them yet
If you are using google voice for voicemail you will see this conditional call forwarding is enable to make this work.
The conditions are: no answer, line busy, and call rejected. In these cases your phone forwards to google voice.
I don't use Google Voice. It is not set up.
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It could be how normal VM works. It forwards to vm for the same reasons. Easy to check under phone forwarding settings.
I never had it on TMO, may be an ATT thing. I think only way to stop it is disable call forwarding or make it unconditional which still may show a message. Most people don't want to disable call forwarding. I am sure there is a code to disable, haven't had time to research it. But, I am kinda use to it now and no big deal.
I just wish there was a way to get rid of it without affecting normal voice mail operation. My One never had it, my One X didn't have it, nor any Android phone I've ever had. It's weird.
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Found this link, check post 15 by jdk2
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gen...-bold/160099-call-forwarding-conditional.html
This is 2008 Blackberry but att so don't know what it would do if anything now
I would think if it screws things up ATT could reset your voicemail
I guess you could also write down the number to replug back in if it screws up
I will just ignore or maybe call att voice services when I get a chance
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Found this link, check post 15 by jdk2
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gen...-bold/160099-call-forwarding-conditional.html
This is 2008 Blackberry but att so don't know what it would do if anything now
I would think if it screws things up ATT could reset your voicemail
I guess you could also write down the number to replug back in if it screws up
I will just ignore or maybe call att voice services when I get a chance
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I know on my corporate phone - AT&T screwed this up - work added some features, one was Visual Voicemail and this disabled conditional call forwarding. Maybe you can add Visual Voicemail - the AT&T variety, and then get rid of the alert. They may charge for it though.
Perhaps one of the roms can give the option on nixing that.. It is annoying
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