Hi,
This is my first post with XDA, but I have been using XDA for reference and guides for years. I am a programmer, web developer, and BTC Miner.
I have speculated that, since only the CM11 source code has been released, that the Official CM 11 for the Note 3 will be released around Late February or even March.
I want to experience KitKat before then, so, even though I am a huge Custom Rom user, I have decided I will try the Stock release of 4.4.
I'm worried about KNOX interfering with my transition back to stock. I have had a few thoughts on this, but I still haven't figured what the outcome would be.
Samsung wants people to use stock, right?
Would Samsung have a "punishment" for having used a custom rom before?
Could there be extreme KNOX updates that prevent returning to Custom?
Could the possible trouble be too much for being impatient for 4.4?
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I am brand new to these boards and usually don't ask questions. I am pretty tech savvy but cannot code or anything like that. I don't mind rooting a phone and flashing a custom ROM. I am currently using the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and love having pretty much stock android but the phone is starting to feel slow. I want to upgrade to the Note 3 because I love the hardware specs. However, I hate what Samsung did to it with TouchWiz. I don't really have time to debug or troubleshoot a ROM. My question revolves around the Cyanogenmod build for this phone. I read that they release a nightlie for it but when you go to the webpage its not listed as an available device. Does this mean that they are still working on an "official version"? I would like to get the phone as close to AOSP as possible and have it fully functional. I understand that all the Samsung stuff will be removed which I am fine with. This is probably basic to most of you but any guidance on what my best option would be greatly appreciated.
There are official nightlies, but only for the Developer Edition phone. The Verizon Retail version has a locked bootloader and can only flash ROMs with a stock kernel.
The DE (unlocked bootloader) is only available from Samsung, and is currently out of stock/backordered. EBay or Swappa are about the only way to come by one now.
what cam30era said.
If you want a full custom ROM that only functions correctly by using a custom kernel, you will need to buy a developer edition Note 3, not a retail device. This is a consequence of the fact that the VZW retail Note 3 has security protections that (have not been circumvented at this time and) prevent the booting of custom kernels.
It is my understanding that CM11 needs kernel features that are not present in the retail, stock (MI9, MJ7, or MJE) kernels. Whether this causes bootloops, UI framework crashes, or something more minor (loss of some functionality) I don't know.
My guess is there will be little motivation for CM11 to "officially" add the VZW Note 3 as long as it's secure boot locks remain un-hacked, as there aren't many dev-ed owners.
[OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod for DEVED VZW Note 3 (HLTEVZW) [2014-01-11]
good luck
In my experience, most of the time, stock based ROMs run faster with better battery life over AOSP anyway.. but I've seen exceptions.
Hi, maybe I have too simplistic an understanding of these things but I'm struggling to understand what seems to be a clamour to return to stock/unroot to allow the OTA to 4.4.2. I rooted and installed a custom KitKat ROM to remove the bloatware and to have a similar UI as my Nexus 7.
What would be the advantages of having of having stock 4.4.2 bloatware included ? My thoughts were to hang off until a custom stock KitKat ROM is developed and released, and flash that (if at all, DroidKangv1 is working very well for me on my D802)
Or am I way off the mark here and missing something obvious ?
Cheers,
np
naepace said:
Hi, maybe I have too simplistic an understanding of these things but I'm struggling to understand what seems to be a clamour to return to stock/unroot to allow the OTA to 4.4.2. I rooted and installed a custom KitKat ROM to remove the bloatware and to have a similar UI as my Nexus 7.
What would be the advantages of having of having stock 4.4.2 bloatware included ? My thoughts were to hang off until a custom stock KitKat ROM is developed and released, and flash that (if at all, DroidKangv1 is working very well for me on my D802)
Or am I way off the mark here and missing something obvious ?
Cheers,
np
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The clamour is that its new. Its the latest and greatest with new things to discover. And new things are awesome. Ive gone back to stock and Im loving it so far, there's a lot of cool features that you miss out on by using aosp roms. There currently is a 4.4 stock rom in the developement section if your keen just be aware that there is no root for it yet.
I actually went back to stock 4.2.2 after experiencing issues using the camera and GPS at the same time on the custom ROM I was using.
If I wanted to flash a stock 4.4 kdz I presume it is the same procedure I used to return to stock but obviously with the correct 4.4 kdz file ?
Cheers.
Yeah correct its the same and its this rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665985
Theres plenty of info in that thread.
I thought about doing it but the mixed results people got sort of turned me off. And the fact that recovery doesn't work on it.
Should be interesting though.
Hi all,
It's been awhile since I've last modded my phone (came off of a t-mobile Vibrant). In the beginning, it used to be easy flashing and modding, but since the whole KNOX debacle, I haven't wanted to touch my phone in fear of screwing over my warranty (for this reason alone, this will definitely be my last Samsung purchase). My phone is still on it's original 4.2.2 firmware but my internal SD is almost completely full and I've moved all that I could onto my external SD already. Not only that, but I'm tired of having to close out some 26-28 apps running in the background everytime I want to play a game or read my kindle.
Now that I've gone through that little story, I'm trying to catch up on things on the forum. Here are a few questions in the back of my mind that I need to know the answer to:
a. If I decide to flash a custom 4.4.+ ROM and want to go back down to my stock one (for warranty purposes) would it be possible to downgrade?
b. Is Kitkat stable or should I stick to the 4.3 ROMs?
c. If I get a custom AOSP ROM, would I definitely lose features such as screen mirroring (I use that one a lot since I also own a Sammy tv)?
d. Are there custom bootloaders available (I REALLY want to avoid anything remotely official looking)?
e. Which ROMs tend to be the more stable - AOSP or TWiz based?
Thanks in advance for any info shared.
a. For the ROM and modem yes, but you will NOT be able to downgrade the bootloader (searching KNOX)
b. All hail KitKat
c. Probably, but I think you will lose such function .
d. How come bootloader be customized?
e. Not a question, such subject is not allowed in xda, try for yourself, but in your case, probably the stock
Oniyuri said:
Hi all,
It's been awhile since I've last modded my phone (came off of a t-mobile Vibrant). In the beginning, it used to be easy flashing and modding, but since the whole KNOX debacle, I haven't wanted to touch my phone in fear of screwing over my warranty (for this reason alone, this will definitely be my last Samsung purchase). My phone is still on it's original 4.2.2 firmware but my internal SD is almost completely full and I've moved all that I could onto my external SD already. Not only that, but I'm tired of having to close out some 26-28 apps running in the background everytime I want to play a game or read my kindle.
Now that I've gone through that little story, I'm trying to catch up on things on the forum. Here are a few questions in the back of my mind that I need to know the answer to:
a. If I decide to flash a custom 4.4.+ ROM and want to go back down to my stock one (for warranty purposes) would it be possible to downgrade?
b. Is Kitkat stable or should I stick to the 4.3 ROMs?
c. If I get a custom AOSP ROM, would I definitely lose features such as screen mirroring (I use that one a lot since I also own a Sammy tv)?
d. Are there custom bootloaders available (I REALLY want to avoid anything remotely official looking)?
e. Which ROMs tend to be the more stable - AOSP or TWiz based?
Thanks in advance for any info shared.
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a. Yes you can with custom rom + custom kernel that support older bootloader
b. stable
c. forget it
d. no, only custom kernel which support older bootloader for kitkat
e. TW
Am I missing a section here in the forums or something?
I'm an old old android enthusiast, have been flashing from back in the OG Droid days.
I'm on a D800 (ATT). I was very excited to see the KK release, as I (for once) enjoy the stock build, except for the pastel colors, light backgrounds, and bloat. Much rather have AOSP theme and even functionality, but my phone is much to important to my day to day business to flash a ROM that reboots or glitches even a bit. Coming recently from a Galaxy Nexus, I yearn for some KK goodness.
I realized it would take some time, I watched the dev threads. I saw about a week ago the breakthru in booting KK using the 4.2 bootloader.
I anxiously awaited...
I'm a very busy guy nowadays, I can't crack-flash.
I Anxiously awaited...
Currently, I only see [ROM][4.4.2][3-6-14] PowerUser Edition V2.1- Modifed Stock - Custom Recovery Enabled
I'm anxiously awaiting...
Am I missing some threads/ ROMs?
(Yes I know about Madhi ROM, lol, I Might try it yet)
The breakthrough you're referring to was needed for stock 4.4.2. AOSP KitKat roms (like Mahdi), have been available for quite some time now (see Original Development thread).
Sent from my LG-D800
Hi I've got maybe kinda dumb question... How long do you think will it take to build a ROM based on Android 5.0 sources after these sources will be available? (It doesn't have to be for our device just want to now how long it will take when the first mahdi, cm, pa, etc. based on Android 5.0 appears... ) Maybe 3 - 4 weeks? I have already forgotten how long took it last time...
I'm asking because my entirely repaired LG G2 had just arrived before I started writting this and I'm not sure if it's worth to flash custom ROMs based on kitkat...
On my old phone, which stopped getting updates after GB, it took about 2-3 weeks or a month-ish for the next android version to be flashable. So be patient, but I don't think it'll be too long, we have some great devs[emoji106]
Well just flash a kitkat ROM now. Since the official LG sources won't be avaliable before LG pushes the official Android L update to us (if it does), Android L ports (cm, pa, mahdi) will most likely be based on kitkat sources,
March, most likely. As it was with KK.
Edit: Meh, saw you're asking for official push from LG.
Sent from my LG-D802