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I thought it might be good to have a central place to post information about Gingerbread for the Dinc. I am thinking we can use this thread primarily as a clearinghouse for "news", speculation, rumors, etc.
I remember the way Verizon and HTC left us twisting in the wind for months with Froyo, forcing users into wild speculation and a lot of useless "inside information". Use this thread as you see fit. I would ask, however, that you do your best to include a citation and/or weblink for information you provide here to help users decide the value of your information.
I imagine the devs will have their own ROM/Theme/Kernel-specific information regarding Gingerbread in those threads so obviously check there also.
Senior Member "DS36" posted some information this morning regarding Gingerbread in a thread I started yesterday asking if we should start a Gingerbread. Here is his comment from that other thread:
"Yes start the thread
The .32 source codes for has just been released"
Thank you, DS36, for providing this information. Apologies in advance for cutting and pasting from your original post.
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Senior Member "DS36" posted some information this morning regarding Gingerbread in a thread I started yesterday asking if we should start a Gingerbread. Here is his comment from that other thread:
"Yes start the thread
The .32 source codes for has just been released"
Thank you, DS36, for providing this information. Apologies in advance for cutting and pasting from your original post.
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not a problem thanks for the new thread
lets all get excited and hungry mmm mmm gingerbread
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not a problem thanks for the new thread
lets all get excited and hungry mmm mmm gingerbread
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drooling already
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Eric Schmidt Demos Nexus S Running Gingerbread
15 November 2010 by Dylan Bailey
Google CEO Eric Schmidt was on stage at the Web 2.0 Summit and then all of the sudden he pulled out one of the most talked about phones of the last few weeks: The Nexus S. He didn’t go into much detail, he even left out which manufacturer is making the Nexus S, even though it’s very obvious.
While he was on stage he also mentioned that Android 2.3 should be out in the “next few weeks” and Google TV integration with major networks is going well.
I believe I'm excited
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Eric Schmidt Demos Nexus S Running Gingerbread
15 November 2010 by Dylan Bailey
Google CEO Eric Schmidt was on stage at the Web 2.0 Summit and then all of the sudden he pulled out one of the most talked about phones of the last few weeks: The Nexus S. He didn’t go into much detail, he even left out which manufacturer is making the Nexus S, even though it’s very obvious.
While he was on stage he also mentioned that Android 2.3 should be out in the “next few weeks” and Google TV integration with major networks is going well.
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I just realized the minimum requirements for gingerbread are what our phones have do you think this may mean well miss updates after 2.3?
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I just realized the minimum requirements for gingerbread are what our phones have do you think this may mean well miss updates after 2.3?
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The hero and Eris have froyo....
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@Lee Like any great phone, this one is becoming obsolete. Some time after 2.3, our contracts will start to be up for renewal and we will get the next latest, greatest phone just like this one once was. It's a vicious cycle that never ends. But with advances in operating systems, there will always be advances in hardware. Who knows, our next phone may have a quad core processor. Let's just hope battery technology advances lol.
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Good point. Since the Dinc is my first smart phone, it seems like I'll want to use it "forever". But with electronic gadgets changing and, for the most part, improving so rapidly, I guess that is not realistic.
My goal is to brick my Dinc exactly 730 days after I bought it.
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@Lee Like any great phone, this one is becoming obsolete. Some time after 2.3, our contracts will start to be up for renewal and we will get the next latest, greatest phone just like this one once was. It's a vicious cycle that never ends. But with advances in operating systems, there will always be advances in hardware. Who knows, our next phone may have a quad core processor. Let's just hope battery technology advances lol.
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Personally, I believe the DINC will still be able to handle a couple more updates with ease. If you look at lower end phones like the G1, Hero, Eris, etc, there will always be those awesome devs tweaking the code to make certain phones work, even if the update wasn't specifically made for a particular model( i.e ERIS and the froyo uodate.)
I just love my dinc. I actually got mine rather recently and I doubt ill ever wanna give it up. Although I will throw it off the bridge if I can get a quad core lol.
Random extra thought... What is the word of dual core phones? I remember reading something about some phones possibly being made with dual core.
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I just love my dinc. I actually got mine rather recently and I doubt ill ever wanna give it up. Although I will throw it off the bridge if I can get a quad core lol.
Random extra thought... What is the word of dual core phones? I remember reading something about some phones possibly being made with dual core.
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Chips go on market in 2011
Dual 1.3 and 1.5s
Plus most high end phones should sports samoled in 2011
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I want a new phone now...
Looks like Google won't be waiting for the Nexus S to debut GB..
Now that the Google Nexus S has been delayed, the reasons for which are still unknown, could Android 2.3 Gingerbread make its debut on the Google Nexus One instead — the handset that also intro’d Android 2.1 and 2.2?
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I think in the next couple weeks, Gingerbread droid should be dancing around on phones. Just in time for the holidays!
News Article from the Pop Herald dated 11-21-2010
Windows Phone 7 and Android (Gingerbread preparation) Marketplace updates
November 21, 2010 By Joan Lee
Android’s upcoming update with codename “gingerbread” still unavailable, but report says Android marketplace will get few tweaks before the launch. Plus, Windows Phone 7 catching up with new apps.
Google’s mobile OS, the Android 2.3 with codename “Gingerbread,” is just around the corner. And before its launch, reports say few changes on Android’s marketplace interface for developers were seen.
This only means one thing, more “cool” apps for Gingerbread are possible.
There were improvements last week called ”Recent changes” for applications. In this new section, users can now see the details of every changes made with the app. For example, if the developer creates one new feature like “share,” the update log made will be visible to the user who wants to download it.
In the Android developers interface, a 325 characters of space is now available, where app creators can mention bug fixes, support for additional languages, new options, and more.
Users can also feel the application “more” with the developer requirement of 1024×500-pixel graphic, plus a YouTube video link. With a bigger resolution, users can see a bigger screenshot of the app, plus developers can now add videos to give users more insights like how-to and preview. Perfect for game apps.
These updates are expected to give the Android apps more purchases, more profits and more fun (for the buyers).
News Article from slashgear.com 11-24-2010
Andy Rubin to release Android 2.3 Gingerbread on Dec 6?
By Chris Davies on Wed Nov 24th, 2010
Speculation is mounting that Google will launch Android 2.3 Gingerbread on December 6, when project mastermind Andy Rubin is expected to take the stage at the “D: Dive Into Mobile” show in San Francisco. The prediction, says IntoMobile, fits in with Google CEO’s Eric Schmidt’s suggestion that Gingerbread would see a release in the next few weeks; Rubin’s appearance will be three weeks from Schmidt’s confirmation earlier this month.
Android 2.3 Gingerbread will roll out to the Google Nexus One initially, and then it will be up to individual manufacturers to put their development money where their mouths have been and deliver updates to their handsets. As we’ve seen with previous Android updates, however, the timescale for that will likely vary from weeks through to months.
NOTE BY POSTER ptgay49: That last sentence is a buzz kill.
What new features are in 2.3?
Not much worried about it.. owning a incredible with the developers in xda 's forums it won't be long after release to having it running on my phone..super pumped about it though
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What new features are in 2.3?
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Article found on androidandme.com dated 11-25-2010
Now Andy Rubin, the godfather of Android, is scheduled to speak at D: Dive Into Mobile on December 6th and everyone is speculating that might be the magic day for the Android 2.3 announcement.
We can’t say for sure what he will talk about or possibly announce, but as we get closer to the launch of Gingerbread more and more features are starting to leak out. Read on after the jump for 12 features that could be appearing in the next release of Android.
1. Tweaked UI
It doesn’t sound like the Android UI is getting a complete overhaul till Honeycomb, but Gingerbread will include some small tweaks. The notification bar at the top of the screen has gone from white to black, the launcher buttons are now green instead of translucent, and many of the native app icons have received a makeover.
Most of the existing native apps will also look slightly updated thanks to tweaks with the styling of menus, check boxes, and radio buttons as leaked in the last Google Maps update. Other small tweaks include new animations when you swipe across the desktop and when you power off the display (as reported by Phandroid).
2. Near Field Communications (NFC)
We first reported back in October that Samsung’s Google experience phone would support MasterCard PayPass, and then last week Eric Schmidt confirmed that Gingerbread would support Near Field Communication (NFC).
NFC is a short-range, high frequency wireless communication technology that only operates when two devices are about 4 inches apart. It is basically just another form of electronic identification except the ID is tied to a bank or credit card company. All the user needs to do is just setup their account then tap their phone to a wireless payment pad and complete the transaction.
Eric Schmidt said that in the future your phone could replace your credit card, so you can see how important this is to Google and their partners.
Opponents of NFC say it might fail because it is too complex and big companies will fight over who owns the point of control for the transaction, but if Google is going to make this a standard feature on all future Gingerbread phones then we think that ensures it will at least move the mobile payment standard forward.
MasterCard has not been confirmed as a NFC partner, but I think there is a good chance they are on board in addition to some other payment companies like PayPal.
3. New Motion Control APIs
True 1:1 motion processing is coming to Gingerbread thanks to InvenSense, the company behind the MEMS gyroscope sensor found in the Nintendo Wii MotionPlus controller.
Gyroscope sensors have already appeared in some phones like the Samsung Galaxy S, but Android 2.3 will add new sensor fusion APIs including quaternion, rotation matrix, linear acceleration and gravity. These new tools will open the door to all kinds of motion controls for augmented reality apps, games, navigation systems, and camera improvements like image stabilization.
See our previous post for a video with several real-world demos.
4. Native Video Chat
In his last interview, Andy Rubin hinted that native video chat was coming to the next version of Android. “We support video chat today, with Google Talk Video. It works on the desktop. Whether that can be repurposed and made appropriate for sipping bandwidth for mobile, it’s an exercise that’s underway.”
If Mr. Rubin is willing to admit that it’s underway, that tells me the project could be nearing completion and already in the testing phases.
It looks like all the high-end phones coming in the next few months will include front-facing cameras so this is another sign that Android is ready for a native video sharing app to connect all these devices.
5. New Android Market
Google has been telling us for awhile that a new Android Market was coming and recently said new features could appear in the next few weeks. The Android Market can be updated separately from the operating system, but the timing tells us the new Market could be tied to the release of Gingerbread.
Confirmed features for the new Android Market include YouTube video previews, parental controls, PayPal payments, and new high-res promotion graphics that sound like they will be used on the desktop browser version of the Market.
At the Google I/O Developer Conference we attended back in May, Vic Gundotra demonstrated the browser version of the Market that was being tested. See the video below for an idea of what to expect.
6. Google Music
As you can see from the video above, Google is also working on a music streaming service for Android. They launched a music search service earlier this year and hoped to get their music store opened before Christmas, but the latest reports say it might be delayed till 2011. Apparently the music labels are still negotiating with Google on how their “digital locker” will store purchased music, but maybe they come to an agreement this year.
This is coming sooner or later so if it doesn’t make it into Gingerbread then I expect we will see it early next year when Honeycomb tablets are revealed.
7. Support For More Large Screen Devices
On the Android Device Dashboard there is a report where Google displays the different screen sizes and densities of devices that access the Android Market. The Large category is currently blank, but look for more big screen devices like tablets to be officially supported in Android 2.3. This means we could see more 7-inch tablets like the Galaxy Tab (1024 x 600) get certified and maybe a few other resolutions for the new smartphone displays that are rumored to be coming.
We have also heard that Google might relax the rules of their Compatibility Definition Document and allow non-3G devices to be certified. No WiFi-only devices have been certified to use the Android Market yet, but Android 2.3 should hopefully change that.
In a somewhat related note, I believe this is the reason the WiFi-only Galaxy Tab was delayed till next year so that Samsung could make sure that Google allowed them to ship it with the Android Market.
8. Virtual Keyboard Enhancements
Google recently acquired hot startup BlindType to improve their virtual keyboard and we are hearing the enhancements might be coming as soon as Gingerbread. The old company website is now down, but you can still see a demo of their technology on YouTube.
What is BlindType? It is a revolutionary system that:
Eliminates touch typing frustrations
Allows for super sloppy typing
Helps you type easier and faster
Constantly adjusts to the user’s “perceived” keyboard and typing style
Just type the way you are used to – no gestures, nothing new to learn!
9. Support for WebM and VP8
We know that support for WebM and the VP8 video format are coming to Gingerbread because Google and the WebM team have told us this.
WebM is defined on the official project page as, “An open media file format designed for the web. WebM files consist of video streams compressed with the VP8 video codec and audio streams compressed with the Vorbis audio codec. The WebM file structure is based on the Matroska media container. Though video is also now core to the web experience, there is unfortunately no open and free video format that is on par with the leading commercial choices. To that end, we started the WebM project, a broadly-backed community effort to develop an open web media format.”
YouTube now offers WebM videos as part of its HTML5 player experiment. Logitech and Skype are also working with the format for future video calling services.
10. New YouTube With Broadcasting
As we get near the end of the list some of these possible features might be a stretch, but there are still hints that new YouTube features are coming. Phandroid reported that Gingerbread will have a new YouTube app and we know that they are also testing their new live broadcasting platform.
If you look at how important video will be to the upcoming Gingerbread experience, then it is not too hard to imagine that YouTube will allow live broadcasting from your phone similar to Qik or Ustream.
The next generation of superphones will include dual-core processors that support 1080p video streaming and also have speedy 4G connections, so the hardware is definitely going to be there to make it happen.
11. Google Me or Social Gaming Network
Google recently denied the reports they were working on a Facebook competitor called Google Me, but all the signs are there that Google is working on a way to bring together all their social services. TechCrunch reported that Google’s master pitchman Vic Gundotra was being placed in charge of the project, so we expect big things from him.
Andy Rubin hinted that Gingerbread would include improvements for gaming in a previous interview. “I think gaming is an area that I think is underserved right now. If we were to carefully look at what new features and functionalities in the platform that we would need to support all forms of gaming across the entire spectrum, I think that would probably be an interesting thing to pay attention to.”
A number of recent acquisitions and partner agreements might also play a role in this social gaming platform. In the last year Google acquired LabPixies for $25 million (an Israeli startup that made web games), Jambool for $70 million (makers of a virtual currenty platform), Slide for $182 million (Facebook games developer), and invested $100-200 million in Zynga (makers of Farmville).
Apple’s Game Center and platforms like Open Feint have really raised the bar for social gaming, so Google will have to release something soon if they want to catch up.
12. Flagship Phone – Nexus S
Finally, what good is a brand new operating system unless you have a flagship product that can show off all the new features. That device is the Samsung Nexus S which is widely expected to be released alongside Android 2.3. Google’s CEO recently demoed the phone to show off its NFC capabilities, so hopefully we see the device soon.
The Nexus S was originally planned to launch at Best Buy on November 11th, but then TechCrunch reported a serious hardware issue had caused a delay. One of our tipsters said the original Samsung Nexus S was scrapped for a newer dual-core version, which shocked many people because they did not expect Samsung to have a dual-core phone this year, but another trusted source also confirmed that Samsung had such a device in testing.
Conclusion
In the next few weeks we should hopefully get an official list of new Android 2.3 features from Google, but don’t be surprised if Andy Rubin doesn’t announce anything on December 6th.
Google and Samsung already missed the rumored launch date, so they could delay this project till next year in order to iron out all the launch details. Some would say that Samsung has rushed their recent Android products to market without properly testing them (aka GPS issues), so I have no problem with them taking as long as they need.
I would love a taste of Gingerbread for Christmas, but if waiting till next year gets me a fully functional dual-core Nexus S then I’m all for waiting.
How do you think Android 2.3 is shaping up so far? Does this sound like a worthy update, or do you hope that Google is packing in even more exciting features? What other types of improvements would you like to see included with Android 2.3?
title says it, i have a direct line contact with a rep at Stream TV Networks, Inc, the manufacturer of the Elocity Tablets. a few weeks ago i submitted a web inquiry to the support site, stating that i was a user here on the XDA Developers site, and that there was progress being made to better the tablet. i asked that someone take the time to atleast visit this site and if willing to lend us a hand in uncovering the 'mysteries' of the tablet. i didnt hear anything and really didnt expect i would, until earlier today... i got a mysterious call on my cell so i let it go to VM, and forgot about it until just now. i listened to it, and low and behold it was a rep from Stream TV, saying they got my message, and was also visited by someone from XDA while at CES. now im in SW Florida so that visitor wasnt me, but someone out there face to face dropped the XDA sites name.
now i personally am a beginner rom cooker for windows 6.0 thru 6.5 at best, and android is still very new to me, but i would hate to lose this potential contact. im willing to do the leg work, and guess i might need to learn more very fast, but if a developer would like to work with me, and i can get them in contact with the Stream TV rep, maybe we can knock down walls here....
forgive the grammatical and spelling errors, but i need to get this to the community asap
im planning on calling the rep back tomorrow, and find out what he is all about, and how he can help us...
are there any educated questions that might want to have answered? that will help the community improve this product...
its even possible that since they are fully aware of us (XDA) they might even be watching the threads....
imagine, if a new vendor were to actually join the forum and help the community, just imagine the possibilities...
come on down Mr. Robertson (reps last name)...
cpg716 said:
I met with eLocity this past weekend at CES 2011. The new A7 will not be out until Mid Feb to March. There will be a few new A7 models as well as several 10-inch models.
I actually went over my issues with them and they requested me to send them an email outlining them also. They have several updates still planned for this device and are very much behind improving it as well as releasing their new line.
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so it appears that i now know who 'the guy' is that met with them at CES...
I'm the one who contact them, I told them how great this site was and that Dexter should be sent a free Tablet to better and to provide him a job with the company to better this device as they are brand new in the market, I also advised they needed to create forums as this site was the only way of knowing what was to become in the future of the tablet. If i wasn't for XDA people wouldn't even know about it.
It seems a few of us met with them at CES 2011. Which is good. I talked with a few of their staff including the head software engineer there. Like I said, I got a real sense that they are going to work out the kinks that exist in the eLocity A7.
I brought up XDA and that there was work being done on that side and that it was important they didn't abandon their FIRST device as the new ones come out. It would be similar to what Augen did. The eLocity A7 is still ahead of many tablets coming out with its Tegra 2 processor so their is no reason for it to be left behind as if it were obsolete. They did say several updates were still planned for this device.
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Well... good.
I wrote to tech support a week ago, never got a reply either by phone or email, and I just got my RMA to return the tablet. There's just so much aggravation one can take in this life.
If they keep up with this forum, they could at least provide some kind of firmware info, even if it's not a commitment. Like most techies (which I've managed for 30 years) they're wholly uncaring about the user experience... but the marketing people should know better.
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Well... good.
I wrote to tech support a week ago, never got a reply either by phone or email, and I just got my RMA to return the tablet. There's just so much aggravation one can take in this life.
If they keep up with this forum, they could at least provide some kind of firmware info, even if it's not a commitment. Like most techies (which I've managed for 30 years) they're wholly uncaring about the user experience... but the marketing people should know better.
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I completely agree. Their tech support so far has been somewhat lacking. I remember calling a few weeks ago to get more information on the firmware patch they released and the "tech" literally went to website and read verbatim what was on the screen. I was like, "I can read the website too thanks." Her response was literally "yeah sorry we don't know anymore than what you do." Yeah....I understand they are a brand new company and are looking to launch a whole slew of new tabs so their focus may be a bit off but they shouldn't forget those that had enough faith in them to invest in their inaugural tablet.
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I completely agree. Their tech support so far has been somewhat lacking. I remember calling a few weeks ago to get more information on the firmware patch they released and the "tech" literally went to website and read verbatim what was on the screen. I was like, "I can read the website too thanks." Her response was literally "yeah sorry we don't know anymore than what you do." Yeah....I understand they are a brand new company and are looking to launch a whole slew of new tabs so their focus may be a bit off but they shouldn't forget those that had enough faith in them to invest in their inaugural tablet.
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"Lacking" is a mighty nice way of putting it. I would have said incompetent! Heck, they've done more harm than good with all the misinformation they have provided since day one!
Billy
didnt get a chance to talk with the rep until today and heres the highlight of how it went:
Q. why was the google marketplace not installed from the beginning.
A. google was not at the time signing off on tablet machines, thus no digital signature to access the marketplace.
the lead tech for the A7 has informed the rep that GAPPs can run on the tablet, and acknowledges that we appear to be weeks ahead of them with that...
Q. will honeycomb be offerend officially for the A7 when it comes out?
A. for the current version of the A7, no. there are hardware limitations that will not allow for a fully functioning upgrade. if we can port over honeycomb we can and a limited function version.
Q. will the A10 have honeycomb?
A. not initially, but it will be upgradeable officially. and the newer versions of the A7 will be multi-touch and allow for honeycomb.
he acknowledged that their tech support at this time was indeed struggling. they are still working on firmware upgrades for the current A7, and they dont want to force an upgrade everytime they fix something, but rather in patches...
i did ask about some of our other issues such as trying to get clockwork functioning, and our troubles with apps like skype. although i did not get an official stance on how far they are willing to help, he did say i could pass his information along to some* of the active developers to help imporve the product... ive already sent the info along to Dexter, we shall see what happens there.... during our talk i was also informed of some other info that might hep explain our skype issue.... ill fill in that info into the skype thread....
i also expressed my disappointment in the face that GAPPs was not there from the get go, and had i been a common 'plug and play' user, this thing would of gone back immediatly... but i had faith in XDA...
i did encourage them to become active in this thread and let it be known that the manufacturer is truly here to help...
I don't understand why the A7 was launched, then improve upon the next release after many have purchased the original A7. Many purchased the device around their mis-leading hype. I'm not completely dissatisfied with the device, but it would be my last. I'm hopefull some bright enterprising soul will look at this device and squeeze out what ever potential it has.
If the updates are only to fix what should have already been the box, then what's the use? A real update will exploit features and hidden potentials in the device that people want. This would speak volumes to their future and the future of products offered. Two cents worth.
i was not thrilled either hearing about lack of 'official future' for this device... but for $300 it did come with some powerful hardware, solid build (minus the multi touch and unlit buttons)... for what we have now (modification wise) i do feel better about my purchase... i just hope theres more improvments that we can squeeze out of this before the next generation comes out...
also mentioned about some of the lost features after the first update, like loss of sd-card formatting, and why they chose the mounting methods they did with sdcard and sdcard-0
im still using 1.0c version and havent looked at the 1/15 elocity or 1.1 dexter update yet...
rapcon said:
I don't understand why the A7 was launched, then improve upon the next release after many have purchased the original A7. Many purchased the device around their mis-leading hype. I'm not completely dissatisfied with the device, but it would be my last. I'm hopefull some bright enterprising soul will look at this device and squeeze out what ever potential it has.
If the updates are only to fix what should have already been the box, then what's the use? A real update will exploit features and hidden potentials in the device that people want. This would speak volumes to their future and the future of products offered. Two cents worth.
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I'm of like mind here. I've got a few more days before I need to request and RMA from tigerdirect.
For the most part, this device meets my needs, but the simple fact that elocity can't get simple 2.2 features implemented properly (like apps2sd) is ridiculous. They can't even get the device to report the size of the SD. The screen (even without the multi-touch issues) is pretty horrible. Web pages look ok, but photos look awful.
I'm bummed. I want so much to like this device, but its got a few too many disappointments. Maybe I'll get the Archos A70 - or even the Nook color (is it the same 800Mhz processor in the new Evo Shift?). Not quite as powerful, but much better SW implementation.
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I'm of like mind here. I've got a few more days before I need to request and RMA from tigerdirect.
For the most part, this device meets my needs, but the simple fact that elocity can't get simple 2.2 features implemented properly (like apps2sd) is ridiculous. They can't even get the device to report the size of the SD. The screen (even without the multi-touch issues) is pretty horrible. Web pages look ok, but photos look awful.
I'm bummed. I want so much to like this device, but its got a few too many disappointments. Maybe I'll get the Archos A70 - or even the Nook color (is it the same 800Mhz processor in the new Evo Shift?). Not quite as powerful, but much better SW implementation.
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Sadly, I feel the same. Hardware wise the A7 is amazing, but lack of true multitouch, not so great viewing angles and most important, no future upgrade path is doing it for me.. I will also be rrturning it to BJ (with the extended January 24 return). Elocity can't complain we didn't give it a chance..
I HAD an Archos 70 for a little over a month before the screen broke on me. Those tablets are so thin they tend to be dangerously fragile. In addition, the firmware Archos has put out is terrible, still no certified FLASH from Adobe, and like the A7 almost every good App has to be hacked onto the tablet including the G-Apps package. Also, the A70's performance (only 256 RAM) was sub-par, it would often freeze, reboot, or lag far beyond what I've seen with the elocity A7. Since I loaded Dexters rom, I have been quite happy with my A7, and would not recommend any Archos product to anyone beyond the Gen7 A5 which runs Android 1.6 (donut?), but has a great DVR/TV dock, but obviously does not do Flash. I will say Archos has a larger community, but hopefully XDA and Stream can build on this product and its capabilities.
Please tell to Stream TV Networks about GPL
Let they post kernel sources, like bigger companies did and we will have ability to improve some functions with custom roms
Here list of tables which have or have not kernel sources
http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/android_tablets/
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I moved on from the Elocity A7, got a Viewsonic G Tablet. Its $379 and with kernel source code the devs have made some great roms. Only negative is the screen.
I moved on from the Viewsonic G Tablet to the Elocity A7. I found the screen and the skin on the Viewsonic G to be unusable. The eLocity with the Dexter mod is a much better tablet.
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Q. will honeycomb be offerend officially for the A7 when it comes out?
A. for the current version of the A7, no. there are hardware limitations that will not allow for a fully functioning upgrade. if we can port over honeycomb we can and a limited function version.
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From their FAQ page:Q: Will Android 3.0 Gingerbread be supported on the Tablet?
A: We anticipate that the Tegra 2 processor should have the ability to support the future Android release, but we cannot confirm it until Gingerbread has been officially released.
So is multi-touch the limitation that won't allow Honeycomb to run at all? I guess I can't understand why multi-touch would be absolutely necessary to navigate an OS. I thought when Google made a big deal about the upcoming Tegra II tablets being their design standard, that the processor is the critical piece, which would make sense to me. But multi-touch? I'm going to be really upset if I have to switch tablets again. I guess I'll wait to see what the big deal about 3.0 is when its released/reviewed before I go to Craigslist...again....
sagggas said:
Maybe I'll get the Archos A70 - or even the Nook color
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I had both before returning the A70 because I couldn't put up without a USB-to-computer cable connection.
I felt the Archos 70 was nearly perfect (light and stylish), but the 256MB RAM kills it. It'll get progressively slower.
The Nook is a great device. I loaded the mod and it was virtually a full-functioning tablet with a fantastic screen and sweet to hold, but the lack of real functioning Android buttons makes navigation possible but awkward. If B&N releases 2.2 and all its goodies, it's a good unit at $249.
For now, I'm tabletless. I'm amazed to me that designers have not started from a list of desirable features. The Nook is really designed as an e-reader and it's a great device as such, but the gTab (which I also returned), A70 and Archos all left out critical features that would have been cheap and easy to include...
So I've visited a newly opened Verizon Wireless store near me and I went to check it out. They have done more to showcase Sony products right as you walk in, but today was just a grand opening and the employees are still learning about all sorts of things about the placement of their accessories and such.
Anyway, cutting to the chase, I've asked about one of the most notable problems with the Verizon variant Z3 is the absence of simultaneous voice and data. Of course most of the employees had no idea there was this issue and linked it to when the iPhone first had its issue when it came to Verizon (FOREVER AGO). They've looked into their database about the Z3v and confirmed to be that a software update will be rolled out around January 2015 to resolve this issue.
I wished I could properly show proof or link about it, but I guess it's insider company info about this. So it's not going to be 30-45 days, it's instead next year there will be a software update for it. Regardless though, I very much love my phone for its great aesthetics and quite amazing battery life. Just wanted to share the news to my fellow Z3v users so you don't have to dig it up in the one and only Z3v topic.
Sent from my D6708
GigaSPX said:
So I've visited a newly opened Verizon Wireless store near me and I went to check it out. They have done more to showcase Sony products right as you walk in, but today was just a grand opening and the employees are still learning about all sorts of things about the placement of their accessories and such.
Anyway, cutting to the chase, I've asked about one of the most notable problems with the Verizon variant Z3 is the absence of simultaneous voice and data. Of course most of the employees had no idea there was this issue and linked it to when the iPhone first had its issue when it came to Verizon (FOREVER AGO). They've looked into their database about the Z3v and confirmed to be that a software update will be rolled out around January 2015 to resolve this issue.
I wished I could properly show proof or link about it, but I guess it's insider company info about this. So it's not going to be 30-45 days, it's instead next year there will be a software update for it. Regardless though, I very much love my phone for its great aesthetics and quite amazing battery life. Just wanted to share the news to my fellow Z3v users so you don't have to dig it up in the one and only Z3v topic.
Sent from my D6708
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This was posted over a week ago.
Where at? Somewhere hidden in the one and only topic Z3v users are allowed to afford to?
Edit: Okay, I saw where it is. Although it doesn't hurt to give a confirmation announcement on a separate thread than it getting buried in one.
Sent from my D6708
GigaSPX said:
Where at? Somewhere hidden in the one and only topic Z3v users are allowed to afford to?
Edit: Okay, I saw where it is. Although it doesn't hurt to give a confirmation announcement on a separate thread than it getting buried in one.
Sent from my D6708
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Appreciate it and it can be quite annoying when trying to send a message and call someone.
I've already gave Samsung a piece of my mind on the topic, but one or a few persons isn't going to do it.
here's some facts to know beforehand:
SM-P600: Note 10.1 2014 Edition WIFI-ONLY (much older than Note Pro) received 5.1.1 update for various regions between early December 9th and January 16th
SM-T900: Tab Pro 12.2 WIFI-ONLY (same release date, cheaper product / lower paying customers) also received 5.1.1 updates Dec. 9 - Jan 16th
first, download the Samsung+ app if you don't have it already. go to the Support or Help Section, and start a Video Chat call (yes it works on Wi-Fi only). by default, the camera on your tab is off, if you wish for them to see you, you'll have to manually toggle it on during the call so don't worry about that. the video chat is U.S. based and almost always gets you a fluent English speaking agent capable of an intelligent conversation. the regular phone line is more likely to land you in India or Mexico and no speak ingles thank you for choose Samsung business appreciate come again byebye! or tangle you up in departments that either have no involvement in software support or have no way to pass along your thoughts.
next, proceed to complain either politely or passionately, whichever fits your fancy, about the lack of updates for (give the exact model number SM-P900) our tab.
be prepared, they will try in many ways to tell you there's nothing they can do or redirect the conversation to have you go check for newer software / how to check for newer software so they can get you off the call. we already know what the newest is and how to check. we're not stupid! ROUND TWO, FIGHT!
tell them how (use the model numbers and names) the older/cheaper devices already got 5.1.1 almost half a year ago. they will try to tell you that the carriers or some other entity are responsible for handling updates. WIFI ONLY devices get their updates from Samsung, not a 3rd party. don't let them end the call so easily! they may also try telling you that a 3rd party updated the other tabs. reassure them you're comparing apples-to-apples, Wi-Fi tabs to Wi-Fi tabs.
ROUND THREE! expect to hear something about their update support being designed to end at a time that encourages customers to purchase a new device. every new Wi-Fi tab Samsung has released after the Note Pro (and is planning to release through the end of the year 2016 http://tabletmonkeys.com/new-tablets/) are either 1. budget devices with lesser hardware in one category or another (which are for a different kind of customer), or 2. run different operating systems (windows, also for different kinds of customers), or 3. both
make it known how despicable it is to try and force us to new devices "even if the specs were better, which isn't the case" and that you insist your feedback gets noted and passed on to Relations and all other involved departments.
feel free to share if you have done this, you will have my thanks and that of many others
This won't work. The device is probably going to hit eol soon. But I tried anyway. I did a video call with Samsung support the through the Samsung+ app. The support agent was polite and gave me the same answers and I gave my response.
He also suggested to leave a bad review on the Samsung product page but that won't do anything. I'm pretty sure we are stuck with 5.0.1 or hopefully the developers can port other versions of Android to this device.
working or not, it's one of few avenues we got
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I'm pretty sure we are stuck with 5.0.1 or hopefully the developers can port other versions of Android to this device.
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We have unofficial Marshmallow builds. This one is works well if you don't care about the camera (which I've always found pointless on a giant tablet): http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...t/rom-cyanogenmod-13-0-android-6-0-1-t3366834
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We have unofficial Marshmallow builds. This one is works well if you don't care about the camera (which I've always found pointless on a giant tablet): http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...t/rom-cyanogenmod-13-0-android-6-0-1-t3366834
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Yes I saw that. However most of the time when I use CM I've always noticed that there are some issues. I might give this a try at some point.
DarkManX4lf said:
Yes I saw that. However most of the time when I use CM I've always noticed that there are some issues. I might give this a try at some point.
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What are the issues that you see? They can't be fixed unless the dev knows it is an issue.
Not particularly with this device but on other devices I've seen random reboots.
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100% agree with this kind of initiatives !
Envoyé de mon SM-P900 en utilisant Tapatalk
You know, I was looking for official updates for our SM-P900. And I came across this. My opinion is that we always have the best option: learn from our mistakes, never do it again and move on. With that said, we all paid good money for that "premium" tablet. And since day one I felt I was going to pay dearly for having to buy another Samsung product. And sure s**t, I did. Which happens to be my last Samsung device. I forced myself to look for other products and was actually pleasantly surprised to find others. Maybe I didn't look hard enough, maybe the market is more mature, maybe I spent my money more wisely.
Note 5 for my wife and this SM-P900 were last Samsung devices we bought so it was a while back. Without realizing it, we went with 2 Sony android TVs when we could have bought Samsung TVs. We bought Rokus for older TVs. I bought a Nexus 6P to replace my Note 3 last year. We bought LG washer and dryer. Also LG fridge. And it feels good to not give them any more money.
And every dog has its day: Note 7.
Don't get me wrong Sterist, I truly admire your enthusiasm. I have been there. I am an IT Director with 20 years of experience so I came across very expensive pieces of hardware for a very long time. But it's good that we start growing a spine and start to really stick to them and mean it. I'm not a fan of anything. I don't discriminate. And today I recommend people to buy what's reliable. Usually Apple. When you have employees who constantly ask you personal questions about what to buy and you don't want to hear they complain weeks later after they bought what you recommended, well, you get smart and recommend whatever is going to help so they don't come back to haunt you.
(deep inside I am pissed like you and others about the SM-P900 and lack of support or for Samsung to just sit around like they always do for the EOL of this device)
Except for maybe security updates, this device doesn't need updating. Updates usually screw something up like the last update that borked the external keyboard until they released another update to fix. It's is still a great product and does everything I want it to do. If you think apple stuff may be better then go ahead and buy their stuff but expect to pay more. Recommending apple products on a samsung tablet forum is not cool.
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Except for maybe security updates, this device doesn't need updating. Updates usually screw something up like the last update that borked the external keyboard until they released another update to fix. It's is still a great product and does everything I want it to do. If you think apple stuff may be better then go ahead and buy their stuff but expect to pay more. Recommending apple products on a samsung tablet forum is not cool.
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Not necessarily. There are some more tweaks and updates that this tablet could use. Or at least thats what I think.
I have to say that buying this tablet when I did I though it would at least get upgraded to v6. The device is capable of so much more. I am using the unofficial CM 14.1 and mostly its very good. But as previous people have mentioned there are a few things that don't seem to work. The Microphone is one of them. The screen resolution is awesome using CM14.1!!
The hardware was ahead of the capability of the OS so updates should of been worked on.
It was good value but without the updates the timescale of that value is too short, If I had shelled out a bit more for something else I would have an updated OS which could make better use of the hardware underneath and the value would have applied over a longer period in reality making it cheaper. This experience has change my view on Samsung products. When I can finally put down money for a new tablet, I will be definitively be looking elsewhere for a brand that supports their products for longer.
I recently bought this tablet second hand because I wanted a premium tablet with the S Pen but I wasn't willing to wait/spend on the Tab S3. At the time, I didn't realize how old the Note Pro actually was so I was disappointed to find out that it's stuck on Lollipop (granted, my fault for not researching this first). Like dstote above, I figured Samsung would at least support it until Marshmallow considering the hardware specs. What a shame.
Of course, this then brought me to xda. I immediately flashed Lineage 14 but realized I really wanted TouchWiz back (never thought I'd say that). Next I tried Carbon which is a modified stock ROM. It worked well and was much faster than stock but I lost 5GHz wifi access--presumably because it was intended for the P901. I then settled on the Bussybox build which has been working great. The only issue is the occasional random reboot which I'm hoping gets ironed out in future builds. Here's hoping someone puts together a TouchWiz Nougat build because I'm not holding my breath for Samsung to do it.
In my case I bought the SM-P900 because I travel a lot and wanted something to work on (including sketching/ drawing), watch movies on, keep in touch with family and friends on and something that, being a premium product, Samsung would support.
The hardware is far more capable than the OS and the unfortunate thing is the lack of S Pen support in most of the custom builds. Until this device I'd had a Galaxy S2,3,4 & 5 and a couple of Samsung TV's. I now have an LG phone, 2 LG TV's and LG fridge - Not because they are any better (you've only got to look at their track record with updates) but because they offer better value for money - We also have 2 Motorola and an Oppo phone in the house - All of the samsungs are stuck in a drawer with various flavours of lineage or CM on them as back ups. Apple - not for me - it's too locked down - but at least it's well supported.
Vote with your wallets, it's clearly the only thing Samsung understand.
See:
Nothing's first smartphone is called the Nothing Phone 1, and it will come with Nothing OS
At Nothing's The Truth event today, CEO Carl Pei has officially confirmed that the Nothing phone (1) with Nothing OS will launch this summer.
www.xda-developers.com
Thanks @MikeChannon for opening this forum
Here is a video that proposes what the Nothing Phone could be (1) taking into account the various leaks.
Nothing phone(1) Concept: The iPhone Killer? by Andrea Copellino
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You may have seen that weird symbol from Nothing's last presentation, everyone was expecting to see a smartphone, yet they only showed a SILHOUETTE of their smartphone (alongside a bit of the UI), so, using every hint they gave us, and trying to apply their design system, here's a concept of how the Nothing phone(1) could be like. (plus my ideas regarding the features this phone could have and what their future strategy might be) .
UPDATE 07/06/2022
I apologise for not posting the 2 previous survey forms, but work life took over and you can now find all four surveys in the links at the end of the post.
Last week you had the chance to join our first Beta project with 2 very cool quick surveys. This week we’ve got a more detailed one, with a few Qs around connectivity and personalisation.
The questions are open, but not compulsory. But please try your best to answer all – your feedback is super welcome and will surely help steering our team in the right direction.
Talking about the team, this is what they’ve said after reading all your answers from the first 2 surveys:
"It will take some time to develop dynamic colours and we’re working on it now. Once it’s done, we’ll update it to a new version of the Nothing Launcher and make sure it can be implemented on the final design of Nothing OS.
Regarding the toggle of hiding the search bar, we’ll also try to implement it with high priority in the later version as soon as possible, so please stay tuned."
Get involved in all three surveys, they’re super quick to complete, and your opinion is much valued.
Survey (1)
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Nothing (event): Return to Instinct.
This is it, what we have been waiting for is in sight.
The long wait is coming to an end! It's about time, you'll tell me!
We've been riding this hype wave since the official announcement of the Nothing Phone in March (1).
All your ideas, your suspicions, your doubts, everything you could imagine, put it all in the bin and I invite you to remember this date.
Tuesday 12 July 2022 at 16:00 BST* live from London on nothing.tech
To make this event even more exciting, a competition is being organised on the official Discord.
So if you are interested and want to participate, please spread the word on all networks and check on this post here
*British Summer Time (BST)
Behind the scenes of Nothing's hectic life in London.
Here's the latest excellent video released by the Nothing team showing some of the personal lives (especially for Tom and Akis), of how the Nothing machine worked before the official launch of the Phone(1) and you can see some of the core Nothing team moving into their new offices, some of the members as yet unknown, and see the complicity that exists in this anthill.
The surprise when we can see what will be, maybe, the Phone(1) in Carl's hands.
The video can be seen via this link: HERE
Not only does this video show us part of the anthill that is Nothing, but recently, if you're a Londoner, you must have seen posters with a green parrot on them, like this one:
But also on Twitter, parakeets and the green parrot appear with parts of what could be the Phone(1).
Updated:
If you take the latest tweet from the com Nothing team, something should happen tomorrow, Wednesday 15 June.
Unfortunately, I don't have a schedule for this event.
So if you want to know more, I invite you to check the Nothing Discord and Twitter page.
Nothing's instinct revealed!
Yesterday, in post #7, I wrote that something was going on today, Wednesday 15th June.
Well, it's done, early this morning the parrot revealed the back side of what will be the Phone(1) by Nothing.
Here are 2 pictures, and I leave you in reflection mode.
Are you pleasantly, if not really surprised by the design?
Disappointed? Were you expecting something better?
Tell me what you think?
I'm curious to know your first impressions!
It looks sharp, but uninspiring. I guess carl pei really took Apple's design language with the rounded corners and sharp sides. This is a typical candy bar smartphone with wide + ultrawide (my guesses) cameras and a clear back glass. Somehow I expected more... guts? Leaked video showed light-up effects to music is interesting but not really a gamechanger, besides it's existed in my 20-year old pc build lol.
Now it's really gonna come down to price and specs.
craznazn said:
It looks sharp, but uninspiring. I guess carl pei really took Apple's design language with the rounded corners and sharp sides. This is a typical candy bar smartphone with wide + ultrawide (my guesses) cameras and a clear back glass. Somehow I expected more... guts? Leaked video showed light-up effects to music is interesting but not really a gamechanger, besides it's existed in my 20-year old pc build lol.
Now it's really gonna come down to price and specs.
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Even if this lighting seems obsolete to you now, it really is a change from all those stereotypical smartphones.
What would you like to have changed?
For the moment we have only seen the back of what should be the Phone(1), so we don't know much more!
I'm playing devil's advocate and trying to understand what people want! Some write that it's not great, it's a copy of Apple, etc...others that it doesn't have curved edges; others that it lacks this or that! that Sammies are better! In short, everyone gives answers but without really giving elements that allow the general shape of a smartphone to evolve.
For the price, I think it should be between 500 and 600€, no more, no less.
As for the specs, I think it should be the latest Snapdragon 7 gen 1 (new mobile chip for the mid-high end).
For the rest, I have no idea.
Sib64 said:
Even if this lighting seems obsolete to you now, it really is a change from all those stereotypical smartphones.
What would you like to have changed?
For the moment we have only seen the back of what should be the Phone(1), so we don't know much more!
I'm playing devil's advocate and trying to understand what people want! Some write that it's not great, it's a copy of Apple, etc...others that it doesn't have curved edges; others that it lacks this or that! that Sammies are better! In short, everyone gives answers but without really giving elements that allow the general shape of a smartphone to evolve.
For the price, I think it should be between 500 and 600€, no more, no less.
As for the specs, I think it should be the latest Snapdragon 7 gen 1 (new mobile chip for the mid-high end).
For the rest, I have no idea.
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Fair questions. I'll have some of my own takes and I guess what I'm looking for:
Lighting is new, but is just a gimmick, as it does not change the way we'd use the phone.
At best, it can be a notification LED once again.
Front can't really be that different from normal candy bar phones. What it SHOULD have IMO:
Super AMOLED or equivalent display
Available 1440p or better
120hz LTPO 2.0 or better
Hidden front camera (Under display like ZTE, or popup like OP 7s)
Networking should, at minimum, provide:
Dual SIM, with eSIM support optional, in all markets
True global band support, with proper CA Combos, like how Apple (13s and such, not SE) has handled things and even some OnePlus (see https://cacombos.com/device/NE2213)
Performance, obviously depending on the price:
8GB of RAM is minimal, even for midrange these days
128GB of storage is fine to reduce costs, with a
MicroSD slot
3.5mm jack, with a decent DAC
at $700, I would expect them to be capable of SD8+G1, at $600 I would want to at least see SD7G1. No Samsung fabbed anything please.
Software:
Just run stock Android please, moto style of customization on it might be ok but no more skins like OOS, OneUI, etc
Proper 4+ year of dev support with on-time releases. See Essential team pushing out patches before the Pixel team back in the day.
Unlockable bootloader
Proper open-source code releases to enable devs
But again, these are just specs I would want to see on a "flagship killer" for a price of $600-700 USD. None of these really fundamentally changes the way a smartphone works, but could be exciting from a price/performance perspective.
craznazn said:
Fair questions. I'll have some of my own takes and I guess what I'm looking for:
Lighting is new, but is just a gimmick, as it does not change the way we'd use the phone.
At best, it can be a notification LED once again.
Front can't really be that different from normal candy bar phones. What it SHOULD have IMO:
Super AMOLED or equivalent display
Available 1440p or better
120hz LTPO 2.0 or better
Hidden front camera (Under display like ZTE, or popup like OP 7s)
Networking should, at minimum, provide:
Dual SIM, with eSIM support optional, in all markets
True global band support, with proper CA Combos, like how Apple (13s and such, not SE) has handled things and even some OnePlus (see https://cacombos.com/device/NE2213)
Performance, obviously depending on the price:
8GB of RAM is minimal, even for midrange these days
128GB of storage is fine to reduce costs, with a
MicroSD slot
3.5mm jack, with a decent DAC
at $700, I would expect them to be capable of SD8+G1, at $600 I would want to at least see SD7G1. No Samsung fabbed anything please.
Software:
Just run stock Android please, moto style of customization on it might be ok but no more skins like OOS, OneUI, etc
Proper 4+ year of dev support with on-time releases. See Essential team pushing out patches before the Pixel team back in the day.
Unlockable bootloader
Proper open-source code releases to enable devs
But again, these are just specs I would want to see on a "flagship killer" for a price of $600-700 USD. None of these really fundamentally changes the way a smartphone works, but could be exciting from a price/performance perspective.
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I understand what your thoughts, but if you're honest can you imagine a flagship-killer with almost of yours specs for $600/700 USD. I'm not sure!
I see that you have a OP 10Pro & SGS22U, their are not really cheap! And do you have all the specs you want?
But I'm sure that the S7G1 is a SoC, not SD8+G1
3.5mm, I think not
MicroSD, now it's useless with 128/256 Gb of storage
I suppose 6/8 GB or RAM
Stock Android without majority of bloatware
Bootloader unlocked and open-source
It's just some speculations from me.
If you are not on to the Nothing Discord, can I suggest you to join it, if you want to discuss with some of them and explain your thoughts.
I'm on both, here and Discord.
Sib64 said:
I understand what your thoughts, but if you're honest can you imagine a flagship-killer with almost of yours specs for $600/700 USD. I'm not sure!
I see that you have a OP 10Pro & SGS22U, their are not really cheap! And do you have all the specs you want?
But I'm sure that the S7G1 is a SoC, not SD8+G1
3.5mm, I think not
MicroSD, now it's useless with 128/256 Gb of storage
I suppose 6/8 GB or RAM
Stock Android without majority of bloatware
Bootloader unlocked and open-source
It's just some speculations from me.
If you are not on to the Nothing Discord, can I suggest you to join it, if you want to discuss with some of them and explain your thoughts.
I'm on both, here and Discord.
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I go through a lot of phones.
Take ZTE, https://screenrant.com/zte-axon-40-ultra-price-how-to-buy/
It actually has almost everything I want, with a better camera array than what the nothing is showing. The cost is $800 and there are available discounts. The only problem is poor band support in the US and SG8G1 being a Samsung fab chip. If nothing wants to compete, they need to at least be able to beat other competitors, so at $800 it better look as good as ZTE on paper.
The first video about the Phone(1) by MKBHD
Tell me what you think of this presentation?
If you are satisfied with what you have seen overall?
What did you like about it?
Another video that shows another side of Nothing, a bit more personal for some of the team members but also the change of premises, and everyone is moving.
Inside Phone (1) | Nothing Series #2
As we edge closer to phone (1)’s launch, Head of Design Tom dives deeper into the design. Catch up with Carl Pei and Akis as they tell us how the Nothing com...
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UPDATE 05/07/2022
News broke this afternoon about a bonus for investors. It is about Dots in NFT version.
Those famous Non-Fungible-Tokens* that Carl collects. He wanted to share one of his passions with investors and members of the first hour of Nothing.
These are the Dots, the famous NFT by Nothing, which will be offered.
Here is the procedure, if you want to receive them and if you are an investor.
For the other members, this sharing will happen later.
The Black Dot NFTs are now open to be redeemed exclusively by our community investors and anyone who pre-ordered Phone (1).
- For community investors (including investors who also pre-ordered Phone (1)*):
Register on https://dots.nothing.tech/ => 5 July 12:00 BST - 12 August 23:59 BST.
Airdrop => 7 July 22:00 BST - 13 August 10:00 BST.
- For those who pre-ordered Phone (1):
Register on https://dots.nothing.tech/ => 12 July 12:00 BST - 12 August 23:59 BST.
Airdrop => 12 July 22:00 BST - 13 August 10:00 BST.
*For community investors who have also pre-ordered Phone (1): you only need to register and connect your wallet once. You’ll be airdropped two Black Dots. They may be airdropped separately.
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* NFT Explainer- What is blockchain Crypto Art FAQ by The Verge
Sib64 said:
UPDATE 05/07/2022
News broke this afternoon about a bonus for investors. It is about Dots in NFT version.
Those famous Non-Fungible-Tokens* that Carl collects. He wanted to share one of his passions with investors and members of the first hour of Nothing.
These are the Dots, the famous NFT by Nothing, which will be offered.
Here is the procedure, if you want to receive them and if you are an investor.
For the other members, this sharing will happen later.
The Black Dot NFTs are now open to be redeemed exclusively by our community investors and anyone who pre-ordered Phone (1).
- For community investors (including investors who also pre-ordered Phone (1)*):
Register on https://dots.nothing.tech/ => 5 July 12:00 BST - 12 August 23:59 BST.
Airdrop => 7 July 22:00 BST - 13 August 10:00 BST.
- For those who pre-ordered Phone (1):
Register on https://dots.nothing.tech/ => 12 July 12:00 BST - 12 August 23:59 BST.
Airdrop => 12 July 22:00 BST - 13 August 10:00 BST.
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Spoiler: Cool beans 8)
This will make me rich in 10-15 years, right?... Right?!
Sib64 said:
UPDATE 05/07/2022
News broke this afternoon about a bonus for investors. It is about Dots in NFT version.
Those famous Non-Fungible-Tokens* that Carl collects. He wanted to share one of his passions with investors and members of the first hour of Nothing.
These are the Dots, the famous NFT by Nothing, which will be offered.
Here is the procedure, if you want to receive them and if you are an investor.
For the other members, this sharing will happen later.
The Black Dot NFTs are now open to be redeemed exclusively by our community investors and anyone who pre-ordered Phone (1).
- For community investors (including investors who also pre-ordered Phone (1)*):
Register on https://dots.nothing.tech/ => 5 July 12:00 BST - 12 August 23:59 BST.
Airdrop => 7 July 22:00 BST - 13 August 10:00 BST.
- For those who pre-ordered Phone (1):
Register on https://dots.nothing.tech/ => 12 July 12:00 BST - 12 August 23:59 BST.
Airdrop => 12 July 22:00 BST - 13 August 10:00 BST.
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* NFT Explainer- What is blockchain Crypto Art FAQ by The Verge
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Carl hates NFT and all crypt currency. He admitted that during a recent interview. It's his team who came up with this and thinks it can lead to something good. So he agreed to experiment with it.
Kapiljhajhria said:
Carl hates NFT and all crypt currency. He admitted that during a recent interview. It's his team who came up with this and thinks it can lead to something good. So he agreed to experiment with it.
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I'm not sure about your statement because after talking with Carl on the #web3 channel of the Discord server, he owns several NFTs, notably from the Bored Ape Yacht Club, which have a certain value
I can't find the charging specs in official doc. Anyone got this well buried info?
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