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So, I see Twitter is all buzzing about the developers putting AOSP on the Fascinate and I was hoping to see some discussion about it here but surprisingly....nothing.
Actually I have to admit, I was hoping to lurk around to learn some more about what this means for us. As a new Android owner, I believe this gives us the stock android experience that devices like the N1 and NS have but I'm not entirely sure.
So I'm just coming out and asking, is this the reason why so many people are excited? To get rid of Samsung's TW layer on top of Android or does this mean something more? Secondly, does this offer us a pathway to Froyo or Gingerbread or are we still dependent on Samsung releasing their version first?
Aosp is android open source project. Yes it is vanilla android. The reason there is no discussion on here about it is that it is not totally functional yet, from last I heard, 2 days ago. If you want to see the progress of this, you can go into irc and ask about it. Aosp is usually more streamlined because there is no custom skin over it, sense, tw, blur which usually slow the phone down. It offers more customization, you can look at other aosp roms on different phones to see what kind of customization it offers. And lastly, no it does not pave the way for froyo or gingerbread. The source has to be released from Google which it has been, (I think) but samsungs source is corrupted which really hinders our devs from really doing much and makes it much more difficult. The RIL, the thing that allows us to call, text, ect also is also a problem. I hope this clarifies some things for you and I am still learning things everyday and if I have anything wrong, please feel free to correct me.
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Skyeclad said:
So I'm just coming out and asking, is this the reason why so many people are excited? To get rid of Samsung's TW layer on top of Android or does this mean something more? Secondly, does this offer us a pathway to Froyo or Gingerbread or are we still dependent on Samsung releasing their version first?
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The alpha build was just "released" here today or last night. It's still buggy, but functional enough for basic use. It will make it somewhat easier to get AOSP Froyo/Gingerbread working, but it will still be difficult to get either on our phones without Samsung releasing either of them first to lay the initial groundwork for them.
Jt has made his own RIL for the aosp build, so I think this does help with froyo a bit.
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Jt has made his own RIL for the aosp build, so I think this does help with froyo a bit.
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Thanks guys. I had read the he was making his own RIL, which seemed like you would only do if you wanted to make yourself independent from Samsung in the future.
This is my first Android and I REALLY like it compared to my previous smartphone, the BB Storm 1. However, like the Storm, Samsung's inability to produce a timely Froyo build feels like Deja Vu all over again.
I've played with TW, Sense and Stock Android and maybe it's just me but honestly, they are all pretty similar. I know that some here will vehemently disagree but all of them just let me do what I need to do, run apps, write e-mails and make calls. Truthfully, it seems absurd for these manufacturers to even write these silly custom UI's at all but they seem to think that this provides some sort of value added differentiation.
The only 2 things that bother me about my phone, the occasional freezes where the hardware buttons are lit but don't respond and then all of a sudden all the touches that I made that didn't do anything at first, start to fire off rapidly. Secondly, not being able to upgrade to apps that are coming out that require Froyo.
Full disclosure, I would have said GPS performance but that was fixed here with DJ05 and JT's 12/12 Non-Voodoo Kernel.
Well, I think the only thing that scared me away from running the AOSP rom was the list of bugs that seemed to indicate that inbound phone calls don't always work and lack of BT. While I know I can try it out and return, I hate having to restore all those apps and data settings with Titanium, not to mention the potential for a late night in IRC in case things go south!!
I was really excited to see this and loaded it up as soon as I could. It looked great, I would have kept it on regardless of the bugs, but for some reason my home button stopped working and sms functionality was sporadic at best.
I can't wait to try it again when it is finished.
Gotta say, major props to JT, birdman and others. Only reason for me wanting froyo now that i have DJ05 is HID support, which most likely won't come until CM comes around, so i'll wait on installing this, especially since they don't need bug report yet. But its nice to see progress on the playing field, especially when its progress that the community has taken into their own hands.
Thanks for all the hard work.
^this. Cant wait until its fully stable/all features working properly. JT is truly awesome at his craft!
I'm running it right now as we speak pretty stable for me, my new daily driver
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Also running this. Really awesome! Can't believe how hard you guys work on this phone. Keep it up
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working okay for me. keep up the good work
Working good for me as well.
Noticed there is no task manager as well as the backup to reload contacts. Guess it's manual input of those again....not so bad since it is the 20th time doing it. Just a nice waste of time.
Glad you posted this thread. It clears up some questions I had too. I've been in computing since 1980 and it seems like the more time passes, the more unfriendly people are about sharing tech knowledge. Android has been one of the most difficult pieces of tech for me to find solid CONCRETE answers about. You have to piece things together from hundreds of websites and hope the consensus is accurate and not a stream of cut and paste work. Especially with android purporting to be open, you'd think there'd be a lot more energy to encourage more folks to develop for it, but it almost seems exactly the opposite.
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Anyone else having problems with their ringtones with this? Mine aren't playing at all. I just hear a short tweet sound at the beginning then silence
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bwheelies,
Does importing them from SD card work?
Google contact sync works fine (even fixes the duplicate contact bug that touchwiz has). I think he was referring to backup assistant (which is of course missing from this rom )
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Does anyone else get an instant FC on the Facebook for Android app? I was looking forward to using the app's built-in and far-superior to TouchWiz Facebook contact sync. Thing is, it just won't open after a fresh install. The only way I can get the app to open is if I restore a TB backup of Facebook taken from DJ05... which automatically keeps the built-in contact sync disabled.
bwheelies, as far as contacts go, it its probably worth your effort to put them into your google contacts now that you are entering them anyway... Just click Contacts in gmail (on your computer)and go to town, you will thank me later. Well, maybe not, but it its a handy time saver for synching contacts in the future
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
+1 for contacts synced with google lol
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bwheelies,
Does importing them from SD card work?
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That is what I did. Now to sync with Google.
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This thread is purely for discussion on the Team EOS cornerstone builds.
A couple of notes.
1) These are completely unsupported. (Hence this thread being in the discussion forum)
2) Cornerstone builds are roms - not updates to a nightly build. Saying something like "I'm running Cornerstone wingray #17 with wingray nightly #90" is pointless. You only need to install cornerstone and then the google applications.
3) Always state what device and build # you're using - this thread is for 4 different types of Xoom on potentially different build numbers - AVOID CONFUSION. Not everyone knows what device you have.
4) You're welcome to say your experiences about the rom here including issues, however do not be insulted if I never reply to issues or bug reports. Remember these builds are unsupported.
5) Builds can be attained from http://goo.im/devs/teameos/roms/cornerstone
6) Please don't file bug reports for cornerstone.
7) If you're using cornerstone, please don't post in the official nightly build threads about your issues. This only confuses people.
Well stated sir.
I know they removed the switch between windows option because of a problem with Google. Would it be possible to go into their code and bring that feature back or to add it somehow?
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I know they removed the switch between windows option because of a problem with Google. Would it be possible to go into their code and bring that feature back or to add it back?
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Its very possible to add the code back. But keep in mind, it was likely taken out for good reason. They wouldn't take it out simply to upset users; at least I like to hope not.
Something to do with Diane Hackborn https://m.google.com/app/plus/mp/479/#~loop:aid=z13izns4pyiyj1opf04cc3owexetubjgzko0k&view=activity
If you could add that functionality back,..pretty please..
I'm still puzzled.
I'm from the Middle East using the Build H.6.1-38-9 for Retail Other International.
Which one from the link supplied should I use to retain my 3G connection?
And just to be sure, these are ICS builds, right?
Pretty thanks for the fantastic work!
Err didnt you guys build it into a rom tho? Or your source? Im confused....
Any anyone of your team using cornerstone or going to keep these updated?
Cheers
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joshndroid said:
Err didnt you guys build it into a rom tho? Or your source? Im confused....
Any anyone of your team using cornerstone or going to keep these updated?
Cheers
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I bring all the latest changes from our normal builds into the cornerstone builds.
I also keep cornerstone up to date.
Nothing has changed, I just would rather keep the normal build thread seperate from the cornerstone builds.
solarnz said:
I bring all the latest changes from our normal builds into the cornerstone builds.
I also keep cornerstone up to date.
Nothing has changed, I just would rather keep the normal build thread seperate from the cornerstone builds.
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Cheers mate appreciate the hard work!
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solarnz said:
I bring all the latest changes from our normal builds into the cornerstone builds.
I also keep cornerstone up to date.
Nothing has changed, I just would rather keep the normal build thread seperate from the cornerstone builds.
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Yes, I agree with above....cheers for working on this awesome project
Most important updates I feel are;
1) stock browser works awesome in small pane EXCEPT many times when typing right into URL bar then pressing enter it opens up A SEPARATE stock browser app in the main pane....def a glitch
2) Google talk does not show bottom inch or two of conversations
(^I think these are important because they're Google apps)
3) maybe get a COUPLE game apps working? Practical ones like cananbalt?
4) getting normal desktop layout back after closing cornerstone. It stays squished in
5) implementation of switching panes. The usefulness and functionality of this rom will never be realized without being able to bring things from background to foreground
6) folders/dock inside the little panes'app drawers
7) im having immense wallpaper problems if i try to set any that aren't the default "wallpapers"
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This is unsupported... So you kinda have to state these problems mainly to dev of cornerstone... If there are problems directly related to a xoom build and you can differentiate the two you may be able to post in correct build thread however this may not be necessary as others usually have mentioned most problems already... So really this thread can be used for tips etc or sharing of problems between us but cornerstone side problems wont be fixed by eos team.. Hence the tag unsupported thats my understanding of it now
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joshndroid said:
This is unsupported... So you kinda have to state these problems mainly to dev of cornerstone... If there are problems directly related to a xoom build and you can differentiate the two you may be able to post in correct build thread however this may not be necessary as others usually have mentioned most problems already... So really this thread can be used for tips etc or sharing of problems between us but cornerstone side problems wont be fixed by eos team.. Hence the tag unsupported thats my understanding of it now
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Where do you think is then most appropriate to post technical issues/concerns? Isn't there a developer working to make a wingray/stingray cornerstone rom that's pretty regular now?
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Damn.....was running stable for a day but now clock/wifi/battery indicator keeps freezing within 15 min of boot...
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Dyelon said:
Yes, I agree with above....cheers for working on this awesome project
Most important updates I feel are;
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Really? I thought the first post was pretty darn clear...
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1) These are completely unsupported. (Hence this thread being in the discussion forum)
4) You're welcome to say your experiences about the rom here including issues, however do not be insulted if I never reply to issues or bug reports. Remember these builds are unsupported.
6) Please don't file bug reports for cornerstone.
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joshndroid said:
So you kinda have to state these problems mainly to dev of cornerstone... If there are problems directly related to a xoom build and you can differentiate the two you may be able to post in correct build thread however this may not be necessary as others usually have mentioned most problems already... So really this thread can be used for tips etc or sharing of problems between us but cornerstone side problems wont be fixed by eos team.. Hence the tag unsupported thats my understanding of it now
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Well said...
bigrushdog said:
Its very possible to add the code back. But keep in mind, it was likely taken out for good reason. They wouldn't take it out simply to upset users; at least I like to hope not.
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It is my understanding that it was removed because most applications are not written to Android standards that allow them to be dynamically resized as is required for swapping windows. The CornerStone Devs recognized that in order for this feature to work correctly the app designers would have to rewrite their code, and that won't likely happen. Leaving the feature in would result in Cornerstone being unstable when used with these apps.
Personally, I would like to see it added back even if it means I could only use the feature with selected apps.
Edit: this is supposedly true with resizing the main app when the side windows are collapsed or expanded and may result in changes to cornerstone to eliminate this feature. I think that would be a mistake.
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Really? I thought the first post was pretty darn clear...
Well said...
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Feel better?
Jesus this thread was created with intent to squander all the comments about the build to this unsupported rom, and then when I talk about it, I get mocked anyway...
This site can be really elitist and snarky oftentimes....its counter productive because not everyone who has interest and motivation to play with your toys will have the same acumen (im in pharmacy school and only delve into Modding for pure enjoyment)....I understand the build is not supported, im just venting about my feelings as there seems to be no relevant place to do so (not allowed on wingray forum, and the cornerstone rom board was moved to general and possibly into worthlessness
Seriously, its so taxing to interact with this site as a layman sometimes
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REHolt218 said:
It is my understanding that it was removed because most applications are not written to Android standards that allow them to be dynamically resized as is required for swapping windows. The CornerStone Devs recognized that in order for this feature to work correctly the app designers would have to rewrite their code, and that won't likely happen. Leaving the feature in would result in Cornerstone being unstable when used with these apps.
Personally, I would like to see it added back even if it means I could only use the feature with selected apps.
Edit: this is supposedly true with resizing the main app when the side windows are collapsed or expanded and may result in changes to cornerstone to eliminate this feature. I think that would be a mistake.
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I agree....even if switching could only be done by explicitly choosing ones you know work or only ones allowed by rom it'd be better than nothing....
What do you mean about main pane resizing? That it causes problems and may be taken out?
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Dyelon said:
What do you mean about main pane resizing? That it causes problems and may be taken out?
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That is what I read. Some apps have problems with the main panel resizing. The alternative would be to have the two side panels "overlap" the main panel when they are extended instead of resizing. Not sure how serious it is, but I would be very disappointed.
With the applications that I run I am having very few problems with CornerStone on Stingray. The biggest one I am not sure if it is an EOS Stingray problem or if it is induced by Cornerstone. Whenever I reboot I have problems with both wifi and 3g/4g locking up. I sometimes have to boot 3 or 4 times to get it working. Since I rarely reboot it doesn't cause me much grief, especially since once I get it working I have no further problems until I reboot again.
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Whatever man, calm down. I wasn't mocking you, and I am far from elitist. But the worst problem on any forums IMO is lack of reading prior posts. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this thread was here for discussion as the first sentence of the thread says, not suggestions. ... deleted my own comments due to pointlessness ... All here enjoy this Cornerstone rom and Team Eos, so, lets just get back to it....
Back to your regularly scheduled program...
I've been having a bunch of issues keeping Cornerstone stable, but haven't done a clean install in a while, so am updating to the latest Cornerstone nightly and will go from there. Thanks to Solarnz for starting this thread!
otis_bartleh said:
Whatever man, calm down. I wasn't mocking you, and I am far from elitist. But the worst problem on any forums IMO is lack of reading prior posts. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this thread was here for discussion as the first sentence of the thread says, not suggestions. ... deleted my own comments due to pointlessness ... All here enjoy this Cornerstone rom and Team Eos, so, lets just get back to it....
Back to your regularly scheduled program...
I've been having a bunch of issues keeping Cornerstone stable, but haven't done a clean install in a while, so am updating to the latest Cornerstone nightly and will go from there. Thanks to Solarnz for starting this thread!
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Try a full full wipe... Factory reset wipe cache n dalvik format system and only restore user apps without data if you can... I have had little to no real dramas doing it this way... I also set my home screen up on first boot so the alignment of apps are all good in the main window... Then i set cornerstone to not start on boot.. I just put the cornerstone app on home screen n launch when required.. I also set cpu to 1.5Ghz.. Try these steps and see how u go
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I know there might be so many threads asking questions about Custom ROMs and mine is going to be no different.
I have few questions about Custom ROMs & Moreover, one of my good friends has been trying to convince me to install a Custom ROM on my Nexus 4. He has done the same on his Nexus 4 and is really happy with it.
First of all, what advantages does a custom ROM has over stock ROM? (a little bit of details would be really really appreciated)
Second, if I am going to install one, I would really love to know what options I have & how much good & bad they are.
At last, I would welcome any other suggestions or tips.
Hope you will have a good day!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180999
That will help.
Basically all of the ROMs, except that Optimus G port, will be fully functional. Your task will be to try a few, figure out which options you want and decide on the one you want. We cannot tell you what is good for you.
Start with Paranoid Android, CM and AOKP if you want loads of features.
My approach towards custom ROM is more about getting better software on my phone. With Nexus4, you can be assured that you will get the latest software always, but Better? Not always. CustomROM follow non-traditional approach avoiding bloatwares (not any for nexus I believe), optimizing for the performance and/or battery life, providing more functions and S/W upgrades.
I haven't flashed custom ROM yet on my Nexus 4, because simply I don't have any reason for it. I am happy with stock android, with battery life & with the performance of my handset.
Apart from all this, there is one more aspect,'Personal interest'. If you have that, go ahead, there are plenty of good options waiting for your attention on XDA
This will help as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284384&highlight=rom+advantage
2-3 features I absolutely love which will probably never make into stock roms are -
Sweep2wake - buttons have limited life, and because this Nexus 4 doesn't have warranty in India, it matters a lot. I just sweep on the screen to activate it. And tap on a notification to lock it.
Pie Controls (I have completely disabled the navigation bar. I have a full 4.7 inch content screen)
CM Profiles - can't appreciate this enough. Very useful to filter out notifications during night when you want minimal distribution.
Keeping features aside, I have over clocked the cpu to 1.7 Ghz.
And Linaro patches for tool chain with which the rom is compiled, improves smoothness and battery life.
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ankurk said:
I know there might be so many threads asking questions about Custom ROMs and mine is going to be no different.
I have few questions about Custom ROMs & Moreover, one of my good friends has been trying to convince me to install a Custom ROM on my Nexus 4. He has done the same on his Nexus 4 and is really happy with it.
First of all, what advantages does a custom ROM has over stock ROM? (a little bit of details would be really really appreciated)
Second, if I am going to install one, I would really love to know what options I have & how much good & bad they are.
At last, I would welcome any other suggestions or tips.
Hope you will have a good day!
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If you decide to install ParanoidAndroid you get customizable navbar and notification bar. You can set the heigh of the navbar and also the backgroundcolor and iconcolor for both bars. PA have HybridSettings. You can display the calendar app on your smartphone like it would be on a tablet.
I tried CM and PA and i'm now on PA because of the customisations and the better implemented pie. Both are very stable and the battery is for me like with stock.
But there are a lot of ROMs and like already said you have to find "your" ROM
First of all, I apologize for replying late. Secondly, thanks for your answers, they helped me a lot. I actually have one more question,
I want as much as customization and little bit more battery life, which ROM is really good for that?
Moreover, is there any comprehensive list of custom ROMs for Nexus 4?
Once you go custom rom, you will never return to stock rom. Go for it. You won't regret it.
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ankurk said:
First of all, I apologize for replying late. Secondly, thanks for your answers, they helped me a lot. I actually have one more question,
I want as much as customization and little bit more battery life, which ROM is really good for that?
Moreover, is there any comprehensive list of custom ROMs for Nexus 4?
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Battery life is similar between most roms. Custom kernels play a larger role in battery.
ROMs based on AOKP generally have the most customization settings. These include liquid smooth, carbon, etc...
Heres a directory of roms for the n4, but its best to just go through the Android Development/Original Android Development section and look for one you like.
badboy47 said:
Once you go custom rom, you will never return to stock rom. Go for it. You won't regret it.
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I beg to differ
I downgraded my GNex back to 4.1. It lags so badly with 4.2
exb0 said:
I beg to differ
I downgraded my GNex back to 4.1. It lags so badly with 4.2
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my gnex flies on 4.2.2.
simms22 said:
my gnex flies on 4.2.2.
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You must be doing something right then! On CM10.1 , after about a week of usage, it would take me about a minute to start up ANY apps. It's ridiculous. Oh well.
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You must be doing something right then! On CM10.1 , after about a week of usage, it would take me about a minute to start up ANY apps. It's ridiculous. Oh well.
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i run rasbean/rassaber with the trinity kernel. using the phone(not benchmarking), its hard to tell if its any slower than my nexus 4.
simms22 said:
i run rasbean/rassaber with the trinity kernel. using the phone(not benchmarking), its hard to tell if its any slower than my nexus 4.
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hmm, I'll give it a try. It feels a LOT slower than my N4. Not sure why..
exb0 said:
hmm, I'll give it a try. It feels a LOT slower than my N4. Not sure why..
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if you try it, let me know how it goes for you, i think youll like it.
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if you try it, let me know how it goes.
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Perhaps in awhile. My girlfriend is using it and she's a huge PA fan. She wiped my phone without me knowing to flash PA.. :C
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exb0 said:
Perhaps in awhile. My girlfriend is using it and she's a huge PA fan. She wiped my phone without me knowing to flash PA.. :C
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ha
Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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g2uzer said:
Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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Google wallet will warn you. Others would stay.
No, I keep it on the phone or my computer.
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g2uzer said:
Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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Rooting does not take away anything, except DRM keys.
You can always download factory image and flash it using fast boot. Factory image is available at Google.
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First and foremost, I apologize if I'm overstepping my bounds. I've seen a few snippets here and there, and think that it might be best if we have a dedicated thread to the subject. If you want to know more about ART vs. Dalvik, there's loads of information out on the internet if you simply Google the subject. I decided to take the plunge earlier tonight, because updating to KitKat went so smoothly for me. The switchover took some time, because ART requires complete 'working' of all apps, instead of the partial job Dalvik employs. It also ate about 15% battery, and that was while plugged in! None of my 'mainstream' apps have FC'd, nor have any of my 'lesser' apps...so far. It would seem that most everything is likely compatable with the new library format by now. I'll post of any app that FCs. If you're on the edge, I dare say go ahead and switch over, it's up to you, of course. You can go back if you want, but it is where android is going. Our next update will likely include the turnover anyway.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
ART isn't sticking and switches back to Dalvik after the required reboot. Aren't you on rooted 4.4? Did you do anything special to make it stay through the reboot?
You posted all of that and did not post what it does and your impressions?
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After the required reboot, its took a real long time for it to rebuild all the apps I have. Believe me, I'm not smart enough to really try to make it stick, it just worked out for me. I could give a screenshot if you like
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bwheelies said:
You posted all of that and did not post what it does and your impressions?
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I have noticed that apps are opening instantaneously. Seemingly, i'be lost the spell check/type assist. Probably a tick-box. Battery life is supposed to be better to, no proof as yet.
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tehcodeman said:
ART isn't sticking and switches back to Dalvik after the required reboot. Aren't you on rooted 4.4? Did you do anything special to make it stay through the reboot?
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Are you using Xposed? If so, it won't stick.
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LunaticSerenade said:
Are you using Xposed? If so, it won't stick.
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That explains it and sucks. Why not?
LunaticSerenade said:
Are you using Xposed? If so, it won't stick.
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Yep, that's probably it.
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Looks like apps now take up slightly larger footprint of available virtual sdcard, only slightly.
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That explains it and sucks. Why not?
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According to the developer, it's not compatible as of yet, so he put in a check to force Dalvik to avoid boot loops, which is really nice of him.
He's working on compatibility, it'll happen eventually.
I swapped over to ART after a day on 4.4. My maxx was fairly smooth before then, with some slight rough edges when loading an app due to the JIT compiler, but ART completely removed that and now even loading a bunch of apps back-to-back is very snappy. The initial installation times of applications increased by 3-5 seconds, and the very first reboot after swapping to ART took a long time (7-10 minutes?) as it recompiled everything, but that's expected.
So far, I haven't had any weird issues except for with Google Drive, whenever I attempt to upload a file using "Choose a file", the error:
"Unfortunately, Documents has stopped."
Pops up on the screen, and it just doesn't let me pick a file. This isn't a game-breaker for me, as I might use that once a year on my phone.
I haven't swapped back to Dalvik to make sure it's related to ART, I'll probably do that sometime this week.
All of this is a huge gain from my XT912 razr maxx that I was using up till last week, it's amazing how much can change in 1.5~ years with smartphones.
Yep, sounds like my experience exactly! Now, I dread the retooling of the KK OTA, but hopefully, since I already am running it, any tweeked version released will be rejected, especially since I took the OTA cleanly (within SMM!).
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A little fyi; if you clear the cache partition from within the stock recovery, the phone will also recompile the apps in ART, not just clear the cache. Sit back, and relax for a bit.
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Back on Dalvik. Tried to tolerate the few apps that didn't like ART, but I've had enough.
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Einsteindks said:
A little fyi; if you clear the cache partition from within the stock recovery, the phone will also recompile the apps in ART, not just clear the cache. Sit back, and relax for a bit.
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Mine does not do this. It did for photobucket app only because it was not compatible. Got rid of it and it does the normal boot up after cache wipe.
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bwheelies said:
Mine does not do this. It did for photobucket app only because it was not compatible. Got rid of it and it does the normal boot up after cache wipe.
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Ack, I shoulda mentioned 'dalvik' in there, to! Anyway, I've gone back to Dalvik, as ART was found to be incomplete for a few choice apps which I grew tired of. I think they are very close to hammering the kinks out, though.
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Not sure what is going on here, but it doesn't look good between dhacker and CM:
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/65939/
Remove Moto X/Droid Ultra: Maintainer is incompetent
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jbaumert said:
Not sure what is going on here, but it doesn't look good between dhacker and CM:
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/65939/
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that commit message though lol
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that commit message though lol
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OMG, that's hilarious!!
#BlameProTekk
read the last comment, apparently dhacker abandoned cm
Well there goes that.
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I pretty sure he's referring to the commit bring abandoned
Well if the support's loose, hopefully they can tighten it back up.
Wouldn't bother me if it did happen though, this is the only phone I've ever had where I prefer the stock ROM (with some xposed tweaks) to a custom, including CM which has been on every device I've owned that it supports.
It was just a matter of time before he lost it again.. Really am surprised it took that long.
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I have not run a ROM yet that didn't have issues its not even worth it with xposed. Since I have some apps that require xposed modules to work I have to run it anyway. So there is no benefit to a custom ROM that since the beginning has been broken ie. No speaker phone camera and video issues. Just don't see the need unless it was flawless. I will say this my phone is much smoother on a custom ROM that is for sure. But no active notifications and touch less control sucks.
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Well, Active Display and Touchless control were not going to be portable anyway..
Most of the things in GravityBox give a feel of a custom ROM.
One thing I don't understand, why all the hate for xposed modules? I am not too fond that they must exist but don't get why one be be so obverse to running a couple to make life better.
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Once Motorola stops supporting this phone , we will need custom roms to stay updated. And I think AD and TC will be an inbuilt feature in the future versions of android. So I would want dev to go on to keep this community alive.
Ya.. I think that's one of the reasons they bought Moto.. Patents
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You sure this is serious, rather than just joking around or teasing each other?
As far as I know, he's not the kind of guy that takes any type of criticism well.. I've seen his actions all the way back to the days of the droid bionic. He just doesn't have what you'd call an "award-winning personality."
Tag him in this thread and ask him yourself. He might respond.
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Once Motorola stops supporting this phone , we will need custom roms to stay updated. And I think AD and TC will be an inbuilt feature in the future versions of android. So I would want dev to go on to keep this community alive.
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By that time I'll have a new phone I do hope they figure out how to get the active notifications and touch less control in a ROM.
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