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Unlocking options?

Realizing I can't unlock my bootloader via motopocalypse because its latest OTA and I can't GSM unlock it for use on US carriers. Am I stuck on stock with Verizon?

xlxcrossing said:
Realizing I can't unlock my bootloader via motopocalypse because its latest OTA and I can't GSM unlock it for use on US carriers. Am I stuck on stock with Verizon?
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You can GSM unlock regardless of OTA version. There are a few stock-based ROMs out there for Safestrap once you root.
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OK I didn't have any luck with the radiocomm app and editing the nv item. I have root currently but that's it. I've never flashed a ROM without an unlocked bootloader so can you direct as to how this works as well as describing "safestrap".

xlxcrossing said:
OK I didn't have any luck with the radiocomm app and editing the nv item. I have root currently but that's it. I've never flashed a ROM without an unlocked bootloader so can you direct as to how this works as well as describing "safestrap".
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http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/how-to-safestrap/

Thanks for the info. One question. Since virtual ROM slots use storage as would the stock system am I able to create a virtual ROM, install a custom ROM and delete the stock system?

I've used safe strap on the og RAZR and the d4... it does use the internal SD storage space... and I do not believe you can delete the stock slot nor flash anything on the stock slot... tho it may differ on this device...
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xlxcrossing said:
Thanks for the info. One question. Since virtual ROM slots use storage as would the stock system am I able to create a virtual ROM, install a custom ROM and delete the stock system?
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I wouldn't do that because the ROM slots depend on the stock boot.img to run. However, there is a restore procedure that should work. You can set up a slot, flash the ROM, set it up, and then back it up. Once you have it backed it up, you can restore (not flash) over your stock slot. Then you can delete the custom slot. I've never used this procedure, but I have seen quite a few people do this with success.

I see you're saying you can end up using your stock slot through this method. Basically what I want to know is if I flash a ROM on a virtual slot does my old stock ROM just sit on my sys partition without being used?

xlxcrossing said:
I see you're saying you can end up using your stock slot through this method. Basically what I want to know is if I flash a ROM on a virtual slot does my old stock ROM just sit on my sys partition without being used?
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Yeah, supposedly you can use your stock slot. I'll post the link to the post on DroidRzr.com where it's discussed. Don't quote me on this, but I think it does sit there unused. The other slots only use its boot image. I'm pretty positive it doesn't do anything else when you boot into the safe side.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/11600-installing-custom-rom-to-stock-using-ss-312/

That app didn't work for me at all. Each time I installed to a ROM slot it would boot to a black screen, couldn't ever get a ROM to load. A bunch of people had the same issue. Tried reinstalling the slot multiple times before giving up. This phone has given me hell since I got it. Motorola phones are really locked down.

xlxcrossing said:
That app didn't work for me at all. Each time I installed to a ROM slot it would boot to a black screen, couldn't ever get a ROM to load. A bunch of people had the same issue. Tried reinstalling the slot multiple times before giving up. This phone has given me hell since I got it. Motorola phones are really locked down.
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What ROMs were you trying? There are very few SS compitble ROMs out there. The app can still work for you, as far as making backups,etc.

I tried slimbean. I didn't know there was a requisite for what ROM you could flash. I'm selling the phone I'm not terribly concerned any more.

xlxcrossing said:
I tried slimbean. I didn't know there was a requisite for what ROM you could flash. I'm selling the phone I'm not terribly concerned any more.
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Yeah, with SS you can only flash SS compatible ROMs. Slim Bean is not SS compatible. Either way, good luck with the sale.

RikRong said:
I wouldn't do that because the ROM slots depend on the stock boot.img to run. However, there is a restore procedure that should work. You can set up a slot, flash the ROM, set it up, and then back it up. Once you have it backed it up, you can restore (not flash) over your stock slot. Then you can delete the custom slot. I've never used this procedure, but I have seen quite a few people do this with success.
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I asked about this before and couldn't get confirmation that this could be done. Suppose someone on droidrzr.com might know for sure? I want to do just as you say with a debloated stock "plus goodies" ROM and then restore over the stock slot.

HemRoyd said:
I asked about this before and couldn't get confirmation that this could be done. Suppose someone on droidrzr.com might know for sure? I want to do just as you say with a debloated stock "plus goodies" ROM and then restore over the stock slot.
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The person that did the write up on DroidRzr did it and know other people have done it. I never did it but it makes sense that it should work. Just have utility or XML ready if something goes bad.

With a rooted, but locked bootloader, I will still be able to flash a SS rom that allows me to tether?
At this point, that and debloating are my main reasons for rooting.
I'm looking to upgrade from a Thunderbolt to a Razr M. I want to make sure I'm not trading one set of problems for a new set.

FirePsych said:
With a rooted, but locked bootloader, I will still be able to flash a SS rom that allows me to tether?
At this point, that and debloating are my main reasons for rooting.
I'm looking to upgrade from a Thunderbolt to a Razr M. I want to make sure I'm not trading one set of problems for a new set.
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Yep. You can tether on stock actually... If you're on a share everything, you get it out of the box, otherwise you need to do a hack using sqlite editor or something
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So which ROMs are safestrap compatabile with the locked bootloader? I am trying to help a friend with his phone unfortunately he took the ota update and his bootloader will stay locked for the moment. That said I rooted and installed safestrap so I'm looking to install a compatible ROM and get this phone on straight talk with a ST SIM card. Any suggestions?
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Is running a rom in the stock slot safe

TLDR: Would it be safe to run Beans B5 in stock?
As long as I verify I have a clean backup.
I am new to the note 3 and haven't been a part of the root community for over a year. I do my research though before I make any changes.
Verizon SM-N900V currently running Beans B5 in rom slot 2. Backup of rooted stock in slot 4. Hyperdrive is in slot 1, but I don't plan on using is as a daily.
What are the benefits of the stock slot of a SS slot?
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Personally, I wouldn't install a custom ROM in the stock slot. That gives me something to fall back on in case something goes wrong.
Running a ROM from a slot other than stock will cause the storage of your device to be read incorrectly. But don't worry, you still have access to all of it, the system just reads it wrong.

It's fine running in stock slot. You can use ODIN to get back to stock if necessary, then re-root, install safestrap, and start over - same as if you had a note 2 or other phone with unlocked bootloader.

I'm running Bean's build 4 on my stock slot. All the others are empty and everything is running awesome. I love it. Only one bad thing, there is nothing else to do to my phone now cause I'm happy with the way it is.
Take a sec and hit thanks if I helped or if you're in a good mood!

bskarpa said:
I'm running Bean's build 4 on my stock slot. All the others are empty and everything is running awesome. I love it. Only one bad thing, there is nothing else to do to my phone now cause I'm happy with the way it is.
Take a sec and hit thanks if I helped or if you're in a good mood!
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I've been wondering the same thing. I just ODIN'ed back to MJ7 Stock and updated to MJE then rooted. I would like to use my ROM in stock slot, but there are so may people that say no and others that say they do.

Xirix12 said:
I've been wondering the same thing. I just ODIN'ed back to MJ7 Stock and updated to MJE then rooted. I would like to use my ROM in stock slot, but there are so may people that say no and others that say they do.
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Just depends how much work you want to do if something breaks. I flashed on stock slot because I have no problem using Odin to get stock back and trying again. (And little things like memory showing full bug me) Though I haven't actually had to do that yet.

ginger man said:
Just depends how much work you want to do if something breaks. I flashed on stock slot because I have no problem using Odin to get stock back and trying again. (And little things like memory showing full bug me) Though I haven't actually had to do that yet.
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Oh.... well in that case I don't mind it. I used to ODIN back to stock and reroot multiple times on the GS4 since I had problems with it. Rooting the Note 3 is so easy it's not as much work as the traditional way of rooting (ADB and entering commands).
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I have flashed a custom ROM to Slot 1. Can I delete Slot , wipe Stock Slot and flash a ROM to it? Or should I ODIN to stock, reroot and then flash ROM to Stock Slot?
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Xirix12 said:
Oh.... well in that case I don't mind it. I used to ODIN back to stock and reroot multiple times on the GS4 since I had problems with it. Rooting the Note 3 is so easy it's not as much work as the traditional way of rooting (ADB and entering commands).
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I have flashed a custom ROM to Slot 1. Can I delete Slot , wipe Stock Slot and flash a ROM to it? Or should I ODIN to stock, reroot and then flash ROM to Stock Slot?
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I don't see why that wouldn't work. Try it out and if doesn't then Odin to stock and start over. Just back up what you need just in case.

ginger man said:
I don't see why that wouldn't work. Try it out and if doesn't then Odin to stock and start over. Just back up what you need just in case.
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True I'll try that now.
Edit: been on Stock Slot for well over 7 hours now and I have to say everything seems to be running smooth. I can also see my exact remaining memory.
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Issue flashing 'Google' edition ROMs...

Hi, I'm probably being very idiotic atm but I can't think of any logical issues.
I'm using the Samsung Galaxy S4 i337.. I downgraded from NB1 to MK2, got root, installed safestrap, and attempted to install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544474
It was my understanding this came with Loki-Doki (saw it floating around in a different thread asking if it worked, can find it if nessecary) as a patch. So I downloaded and backed up my stock install, and attempted to install this.
Now the problem is when I boot, it returns me to a bootloop, if you could call that progress.. It vibrates occasionally while bootlooping (samsung - safeboot - blackscreen - vibrate - samsung....). I still have access to safestrap, download mode and so on, if it helps at all. I've also tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495 WITH loki-doki (as it is explicitly stated) to no success either..
I'm looking for one of two solutions;
how to get stock firmware back, or how to properly install this? Or any variation thereof. . . I don't know what the problem is ahaha

Bumping to say multiple wipes>reflashes later the blue screen has yet to occur, not sure what that was... Bootlooping is the huge problem now!

You can't use that rom. You need a tw based rom. This one is aosp
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jd1639 said:
You can't use that rom. You need a tw based rom. This one is aosp
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Doesn't the second one work with my phone though? And the comments say 'working on i337'etc on the first one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
It's still giving me the same problems with loki-doki.

Rhymey said:
Doesn't the second one work with my phone though? And the comments say 'working on i337'etc on the first one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
It's still giving me the same problems with loki-doki.
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It only works if you have mdl firmware and not on safe strap
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jd1639 said:
It only works if you have mdl firmware and not on safe strap
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Guh. Well ****. They should make that more obvious in the OP.. saw no mention of either of those being an issue..
Any similar roms that still have TouchWiz or should I just roll back to OTA 4.4.2?

Rhymey said:
Guh. Well ****. They should make that more obvious in the OP.. saw no mention of either of those being an issue..
Any similar roms that still have TouchWiz or should I just roll back to OTA 4.4.2?
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Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49562527
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So will it ever be possible to flash AOSP ROMs on NB1?

Not until the bootloader is unlocked. There is no telling when that will be.
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Best bet is to find a ROM that you like, then install the Google Experience Launcher apk. It will give your phone the stock google launcher.
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Domination Theme will also extensively theme your touchwiz rom to give it a more complete AOSP look without an AOSP rom.

All right thanks for the help guys.

[Q] Verizon galaxy note 3 om Toubles!

Hi guys, I have a question regarding some roming stuff with the verizon version of the galaxy note 3. I am not new to roms by any means and I have been searching frantically to find one place with the complete answer im looking for. I made the early mistake of taking the OTA upgrade for KK, therefore I am currently running 4.4.2 with the NC4 build and NC4 baseband. Now while i have easily rooted my phone at this point with the towelroot. I also have had no problem getting the new 3.72 safestrap installed and running on my phone. My question now at this point is trying to figure out my next step with a new ROM I am trying install....I have been looking at all of my info to get the Hyperdrive ROM installed and I cant seem to find all the info I need in one location. Can I or can I not flash a new ROM to the NC4 baseband? I have seen some information where some people say I might be able to flash the NC2 kernal using ODIN and others say just trying to flash any ROM in general creates a black screen in which a battery pull needs to be done...yada yada.....? So in short, am I able to flash a ROM to the note 3 at this point or am I S.O.L?

sickorsane1 said:
Hi guys, I have a question regarding some roming stuff with the verizon version of the galaxy note 3. I am not new to roms by any means and I have been searching frantically to find one place with the complete answer im looking for. I made the early mistake of taking the OTA upgrade for KK, therefore I am currently running 4.4.2 with the NC4 build and NC4 baseband. Now while i have easily rooted my phone at this point with the towelroot. I also have had no problem getting the new 3.72 safestrap installed and running on my phone. My question now at this point is trying to figure out my next step with a new ROM I am trying install....I have been looking at all of my info to get the Hyperdrive ROM installed and I cant seem to find all the info I need in one location. Can I or can I not flash a new ROM to the NC4 baseband? I have seen some information where some people say I might be able to flash the NC2 kernal using ODIN and others say just trying to flash any ROM in general creates a black screen in which a battery pull needs to be done...yada yada.....? So in short, am I able to flash a ROM to the note 3 at this point or am I S.O.L?
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Yes you can!! As long as the rom says that they support it you can. It says right here in red on the hyperdrive op-" This Rom is able to be installed on the Verizon Galaxy Note 3 On KitKat Bootloader with KK Safestrap" so make a backup with safestrap and try it out! And since it doesn't say anything about what specific one to use (I see what you are talking about) you won't have any harm with a backup. By the way the reason why a lot of roms were/are based on NC2 was because it was way more leniant than NC4 but now most if not all roms will support it. Just read the op.
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K03WL3R said:
Yes you can!! As long as the rom says that they support it you can. It says right here in red on the hyperdrive op-" This Rom is able to be installed on the Verizon Galaxy Note 3 On KitKat Bootloader with KK Safestrap" so make a backup with safestrap and try it out! And since it doesn't say anything about what specific one to use (I see what you are talking about) you won't have any harm with a backup. By the way the reason why a lot of roms were/are based on NC2 was because it was way more leniant than NC4 but now most if not all roms will support it. Just read the op.
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Hmmm....well I tried to do the jasmine rom and I seem to have had the same problem that quite a few people are having. I put it in slot 1, created the rom slot and such, reboots into the recovery mode on ss just fine but then it goes to a black screen as if it's off. Have to battery pull. Maybe gonna try a different rom and see where I end up.

I'm running JasmineRom on the stock slot, but I also have the NC2 kernel..
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K03WL3R said:
I'm running JasmineRom on the stock slot, but I also have the NC2 kernel..
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Should I try stock slot then? I used slot 1 with 3.75

You could try that (I would), or just flash the Nc2 stuff, then boot up (on stock), boot back to recovery and flash JasmineRom on stock. Those steps are just what I did and it worked for me. I'm really sorry but for the life of me that's the best I can remember about what I did. If none of that works, I'll try to install Jasmine onto a rom slot when I can.
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K03WL3R said:
You could try that (I would), or just flash the Nc2 stuff, then boot up (on stock), boot back to recovery and flash JasmineRom on stock. Those steps are just what I did and it worked for me. I'm really sorry but for the life of me that's the best I can remember about what I did. If none of that works, I'll try to install Jasmine onto a rom slot when I can.
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I flashed Nc2 from a post on here and still didn't work....I'm about to give up

Have you tried just making a backup and starting over from fresh stock?
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Also ask here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2780031
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You need to flash the rom after you've wiped everything, then reboot to download mode and install the unified firmware via odin. That should work.
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K03WL3R said:
You need to flash the rom after you've wiped everything, then reboot to download mode and install the unified firmware via odin. That should work.
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That did not work as that was the original plan of action. Only to come to a nice black screen

Okay, the dev just posted instructions in his last post on the JasmineRom thread. Check it out, it took me a while for it to work on my phone, it seems like a couple people are like us too.. Just a mix of trial and error
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Edit: and sorry I couldn't help so far, I don't really want to go back to stock considering this is my daily and I need a bigger sd card to make a full backup. [emoji53]

K03WL3R said:
Okay, the dev just posted instructions in his last post on the JasmineRom thread. Check it out, it took me a while for it to work on my phone, it seems like a couple people are like us too.. Just a mix of trial and error
Sent from my GalaxyAwesome
Edit: and sorry I couldn't help so far, I don't really want to go back to stock considering this is my daily and I need a bigger sd card to make a full backup. [emoji53]
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All good! I finally got it working thanks to you saying the dev mentioned something! Jasmine up and running with no issues!

Jasmine V2
I never sign up for web sites but the Jasmine Rom is just so good I had to say thanks. Also concerning the excess power usage, I noticed that when plugged into AC charger the Android OS goes from 40% down to the 20's. Hope it helps. Again thanks to hsbadr for being a great DEV.
PS: K03WL3R I see you helping on hsbadr's forum, please convey my thanks and suggestion to him, for as I am a new member I can not post on his forum.
Thanks

Sorry it took me so long, there's an open discussion in the general/help section for jasminerom! I'm pretty sure new users can post there?

Various Note 3 questions?

I'm kinda trying to figure out what the difference is between the N2 and N4. I am already rooted and wanting to put Alliance rom on it, but I need recovery for that and I can't do the recovery before I figure out what I have. If someone could help me I'd greatly appreciate it. Also I read your supposed to put it into the stock slot and I always remember from my Droid Razr days how stock slot was off limits. Is it bad or dangerous to put it in the stock slot if so?

buckeyestilidie said:
I'm kinda trying to figure out what the difference is between the N2 and N4. I am already rooted and wanting to put Alliance rom on it, but I need recovery for that and I can't do the recovery before I figure out what I have. If someone could help me I'd greatly appreciate it. Also I read your supposed to put it into the stock slot and I always remember from my Droid Razr days how stock slot was off limits. Is it bad or dangerous to put it in the stock slot if so?
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The difference is the radio signal strength, and it depends on your area. I went thru all 3 ( MJE, NC2 & NC4) and found that MJE was best suited for me. If you came from MJE and didn't take the OTA, then you can check which of the 3 is better for you. If you came from OTA then you're stuck on NC4, sorry.
You can go to:
Settings > About phone > Baseband Version
That will tell you what you are running, ie NC2 or NC4
You then would simply follow the OP instructions to the ROM of your choosing.
SafeStrap is as close to recovery as it gets with the locked bootloader. I have run 2 different ROMS on my Stock Slot and have had no issues. The unfortunate thing about the ROM slots, it appears, that when you run off of them you run into battery draining and phone lags. It's a known issue, but has not been true for all. I found that I lost more battery life on ROM slots 1-3, and the 4th not as much so I use it to set up my ROM to my liking and make the back up to run off Stock Slot. So, yes, you are safe to run off of Stock Slot.
Hopefully that answers some of the questions, if not all, and you get up and running soon.
One last thing..... when you do get your ROM running, remember to allow 5-7 days for the ROM to "settle" for the outstanding battery life that all of these developers have incorporated into their ROMS.
-Don't forget to hit the thanks button if you found ANY of this helpful-

shaggy_kobain said:
The difference is the radio signal strength, and it depends on your area. I went thru all 3 ( MJE, NC2 & NC4) and found that MJE was best suited for me. If you came from MJE and didn't take the OTA, then you can check which of the 3 is better for you. If you came from OTA then you're stuck on NC4, sorry.
You can go to:
Settings > About phone > Baseband Version
That will tell you what you are running, ie NC2 or NC4
You then would simply follow the OP instructions to the ROM of your choosing.
SafeStrap is as close to recovery as it gets with the locked bootloader. I have run 2 different ROMS on my Stock Slot and have had no issues. The unfortunate thing about the ROM slots, it appears, that when you run off of them you run into battery draining and phone lags. It's a known issue, but has not been true for all. I found that I lost more battery life on ROM slots 1-3, and the 4th not as much so I use it to set up my ROM to my liking and make the back up to run off Stock Slot. So, yes, you are safe to run off of Stock Slot.
Hopefully that answers some of the questions, if not all, and you get up and running soon.
One last thing..... when you do get your ROM running, remember to allow 5-7 days for the ROM to "settle" for the outstanding battery life that all of these developers have incorporated into their ROMS.
-Don't forget to hit the thanks button if you found ANY of this helpful-
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No doubt I did lol, so I experience no battery drain if I stick it in the stock slot?
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buckeyestilidie said:
No doubt I did lol, so I experience no battery drain if I stick it in the stock slot?
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Correct :good:

shaggy_kobain said:
Correct :good:
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I am currently trying to install safestrap. I donwloaded the 3.72 apk and went to hit install recovery and it says it's installed, but it says state:not installed. Any ideas where I did something wrong?

buckeyestilidie said:
I am currently trying to install safestrap. I donwloaded the 3.72 apk and went to hit install recovery and it says it's installed, but it says state:not installed. Any ideas where I did something wrong?
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Like this?
If so, you're good to go