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Realizing I can't unlock my bootloader via motopocalypse because its latest OTA and I can't GSM unlock it for use on US carriers. Am I stuck on stock with Verizon?

xlxcrossing said:
Realizing I can't unlock my bootloader via motopocalypse because its latest OTA and I can't GSM unlock it for use on US carriers. Am I stuck on stock with Verizon?
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You can GSM unlock regardless of OTA version. There are a few stock-based ROMs out there for Safestrap once you root.
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OK I didn't have any luck with the radiocomm app and editing the nv item. I have root currently but that's it. I've never flashed a ROM without an unlocked bootloader so can you direct as to how this works as well as describing "safestrap".

xlxcrossing said:
OK I didn't have any luck with the radiocomm app and editing the nv item. I have root currently but that's it. I've never flashed a ROM without an unlocked bootloader so can you direct as to how this works as well as describing "safestrap".
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http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/how-to-safestrap/

Thanks for the info. One question. Since virtual ROM slots use storage as would the stock system am I able to create a virtual ROM, install a custom ROM and delete the stock system?

I've used safe strap on the og RAZR and the d4... it does use the internal SD storage space... and I do not believe you can delete the stock slot nor flash anything on the stock slot... tho it may differ on this device...
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xlxcrossing said:
Thanks for the info. One question. Since virtual ROM slots use storage as would the stock system am I able to create a virtual ROM, install a custom ROM and delete the stock system?
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I wouldn't do that because the ROM slots depend on the stock boot.img to run. However, there is a restore procedure that should work. You can set up a slot, flash the ROM, set it up, and then back it up. Once you have it backed it up, you can restore (not flash) over your stock slot. Then you can delete the custom slot. I've never used this procedure, but I have seen quite a few people do this with success.

I see you're saying you can end up using your stock slot through this method. Basically what I want to know is if I flash a ROM on a virtual slot does my old stock ROM just sit on my sys partition without being used?

xlxcrossing said:
I see you're saying you can end up using your stock slot through this method. Basically what I want to know is if I flash a ROM on a virtual slot does my old stock ROM just sit on my sys partition without being used?
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Yeah, supposedly you can use your stock slot. I'll post the link to the post on DroidRzr.com where it's discussed. Don't quote me on this, but I think it does sit there unused. The other slots only use its boot image. I'm pretty positive it doesn't do anything else when you boot into the safe side.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/11600-installing-custom-rom-to-stock-using-ss-312/

That app didn't work for me at all. Each time I installed to a ROM slot it would boot to a black screen, couldn't ever get a ROM to load. A bunch of people had the same issue. Tried reinstalling the slot multiple times before giving up. This phone has given me hell since I got it. Motorola phones are really locked down.

xlxcrossing said:
That app didn't work for me at all. Each time I installed to a ROM slot it would boot to a black screen, couldn't ever get a ROM to load. A bunch of people had the same issue. Tried reinstalling the slot multiple times before giving up. This phone has given me hell since I got it. Motorola phones are really locked down.
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What ROMs were you trying? There are very few SS compitble ROMs out there. The app can still work for you, as far as making backups,etc.

I tried slimbean. I didn't know there was a requisite for what ROM you could flash. I'm selling the phone I'm not terribly concerned any more.

xlxcrossing said:
I tried slimbean. I didn't know there was a requisite for what ROM you could flash. I'm selling the phone I'm not terribly concerned any more.
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Yeah, with SS you can only flash SS compatible ROMs. Slim Bean is not SS compatible. Either way, good luck with the sale.

RikRong said:
I wouldn't do that because the ROM slots depend on the stock boot.img to run. However, there is a restore procedure that should work. You can set up a slot, flash the ROM, set it up, and then back it up. Once you have it backed it up, you can restore (not flash) over your stock slot. Then you can delete the custom slot. I've never used this procedure, but I have seen quite a few people do this with success.
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I asked about this before and couldn't get confirmation that this could be done. Suppose someone on droidrzr.com might know for sure? I want to do just as you say with a debloated stock "plus goodies" ROM and then restore over the stock slot.

HemRoyd said:
I asked about this before and couldn't get confirmation that this could be done. Suppose someone on droidrzr.com might know for sure? I want to do just as you say with a debloated stock "plus goodies" ROM and then restore over the stock slot.
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The person that did the write up on DroidRzr did it and know other people have done it. I never did it but it makes sense that it should work. Just have utility or XML ready if something goes bad.

With a rooted, but locked bootloader, I will still be able to flash a SS rom that allows me to tether?
At this point, that and debloating are my main reasons for rooting.
I'm looking to upgrade from a Thunderbolt to a Razr M. I want to make sure I'm not trading one set of problems for a new set.

FirePsych said:
With a rooted, but locked bootloader, I will still be able to flash a SS rom that allows me to tether?
At this point, that and debloating are my main reasons for rooting.
I'm looking to upgrade from a Thunderbolt to a Razr M. I want to make sure I'm not trading one set of problems for a new set.
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Yep. You can tether on stock actually... If you're on a share everything, you get it out of the box, otherwise you need to do a hack using sqlite editor or something
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So which ROMs are safestrap compatabile with the locked bootloader? I am trying to help a friend with his phone unfortunately he took the ota update and his bootloader will stay locked for the moment. That said I rooted and installed safestrap so I'm looking to install a compatible ROM and get this phone on straight talk with a ST SIM card. Any suggestions?
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[Q] Revert to stock rom

ok so i have installed JellyBeans rom and im not liking it. im on base version JSS15J.N900VVRUBMJE.
how do i get back to the most updated stock rom on note 3?

Am assuming that you are using SafeStrap. If so, boot to recovery. Go into boot options and activate the "stock" slot. Then, if you want to, you can go in and delete rom slot that you have beans installed on.
Once you activate the stock slot, you'll know it because it will tell you with red text across the top of the screen.
Then just reboot.
IF YOU INSTALLED BEANS ROM ON THE STOCK SLOT, you need to download a copy of the stock odex or deodex rom that beans put together in the dev thread. If this is the case, let us know if you need help before going any further!
♢NoteIII♢

Yes I made a new slot for beans and still have the stock one open. Thanks ill just use the stock slot. Now what about me getting the latest updated stock rom and still keep root, how would I do that?
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spetzuu said:
Yes I made a new slot for beans and still have the stock one open. Thanks ill just use the stock slot. Now what about me getting the latest updated stock rom and still keep root, how would I do that?
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So the rooted rom on your stock slot is what version?
♢NoteIII♢

LeftyGR said:
So the rooted rom on your stock slot is what version?
♢NoteIII♢
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MI9

spetzuu said:
MI9
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Eh...
Best way would mean you'd need to redo root. And that way would be with odin. Unless someone else has a better way?
♢NoteIII♢

ive tried finding out the benefits of the updates that have rolled on on the note 3 and i cant seem to find any... although i have seen people complaining about the battery life and what not.
do you know where i could get a complete list of what the updates bring to phone? because if its nothing major ill just stick to MI9

Honestly, it will be different for every person. Because even though we all have the same phone, Every Phone is just a little different. For example, I am on the current update and felt I needed to because I was having issues with wifi. But if you are on the original firmware, which you are, and you can find no problem with your phone that you would like to see fixed then I honestly don't see any point in updating your firmware if you do not want to. I know that the current version addresses problems people were having with wifi. Along with some other minor changes.
Now having said that... If you encounter any quirks or problems with any current custom ROMs that are listed in the development section, it may be due to the fact that they are built on the current firmware version while you are still two versions behind.
♢NoteIII♢

Various Note 3 questions?

I'm kinda trying to figure out what the difference is between the N2 and N4. I am already rooted and wanting to put Alliance rom on it, but I need recovery for that and I can't do the recovery before I figure out what I have. If someone could help me I'd greatly appreciate it. Also I read your supposed to put it into the stock slot and I always remember from my Droid Razr days how stock slot was off limits. Is it bad or dangerous to put it in the stock slot if so?

buckeyestilidie said:
I'm kinda trying to figure out what the difference is between the N2 and N4. I am already rooted and wanting to put Alliance rom on it, but I need recovery for that and I can't do the recovery before I figure out what I have. If someone could help me I'd greatly appreciate it. Also I read your supposed to put it into the stock slot and I always remember from my Droid Razr days how stock slot was off limits. Is it bad or dangerous to put it in the stock slot if so?
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The difference is the radio signal strength, and it depends on your area. I went thru all 3 ( MJE, NC2 & NC4) and found that MJE was best suited for me. If you came from MJE and didn't take the OTA, then you can check which of the 3 is better for you. If you came from OTA then you're stuck on NC4, sorry.
You can go to:
Settings > About phone > Baseband Version
That will tell you what you are running, ie NC2 or NC4
You then would simply follow the OP instructions to the ROM of your choosing.
SafeStrap is as close to recovery as it gets with the locked bootloader. I have run 2 different ROMS on my Stock Slot and have had no issues. The unfortunate thing about the ROM slots, it appears, that when you run off of them you run into battery draining and phone lags. It's a known issue, but has not been true for all. I found that I lost more battery life on ROM slots 1-3, and the 4th not as much so I use it to set up my ROM to my liking and make the back up to run off Stock Slot. So, yes, you are safe to run off of Stock Slot.
Hopefully that answers some of the questions, if not all, and you get up and running soon.
One last thing..... when you do get your ROM running, remember to allow 5-7 days for the ROM to "settle" for the outstanding battery life that all of these developers have incorporated into their ROMS.
-Don't forget to hit the thanks button if you found ANY of this helpful-

shaggy_kobain said:
The difference is the radio signal strength, and it depends on your area. I went thru all 3 ( MJE, NC2 & NC4) and found that MJE was best suited for me. If you came from MJE and didn't take the OTA, then you can check which of the 3 is better for you. If you came from OTA then you're stuck on NC4, sorry.
You can go to:
Settings > About phone > Baseband Version
That will tell you what you are running, ie NC2 or NC4
You then would simply follow the OP instructions to the ROM of your choosing.
SafeStrap is as close to recovery as it gets with the locked bootloader. I have run 2 different ROMS on my Stock Slot and have had no issues. The unfortunate thing about the ROM slots, it appears, that when you run off of them you run into battery draining and phone lags. It's a known issue, but has not been true for all. I found that I lost more battery life on ROM slots 1-3, and the 4th not as much so I use it to set up my ROM to my liking and make the back up to run off Stock Slot. So, yes, you are safe to run off of Stock Slot.
Hopefully that answers some of the questions, if not all, and you get up and running soon.
One last thing..... when you do get your ROM running, remember to allow 5-7 days for the ROM to "settle" for the outstanding battery life that all of these developers have incorporated into their ROMS.
-Don't forget to hit the thanks button if you found ANY of this helpful-
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No doubt I did lol, so I experience no battery drain if I stick it in the stock slot?
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buckeyestilidie said:
No doubt I did lol, so I experience no battery drain if I stick it in the stock slot?
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Correct :good:

shaggy_kobain said:
Correct :good:
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I am currently trying to install safestrap. I donwloaded the 3.72 apk and went to hit install recovery and it says it's installed, but it says state:not installed. Any ideas where I did something wrong?

buckeyestilidie said:
I am currently trying to install safestrap. I donwloaded the 3.72 apk and went to hit install recovery and it says it's installed, but it says state:not installed. Any ideas where I did something wrong?
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Like this?
If so, you're good to go

S3 to d4....everything's different and I'm scared!

Not really scared lol. Last phone I had anything custom on was the s3. Looking around it's obvious things don't work the same.
Only thing I have done with this s4 is root. Now I'm wanting to run a rom without all the extra att bloat. So just wondering what rom and recovery I should go with. I have Nl1 if it matters.
I want the bloat gone but still have the fancy features. Any input is appreciated!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221

Lots to read. But, in case it isn't immediately obviuos, you will need SafeStrap and its recovery. You will only be able to run, for the most part, TouchWiz roms. No custom recoveries or kernels.

Yeaaa lot of reading done after posting lol. Got safestrap running and recovery. Decided on the golden eye rom. For some reason I lose imei. Created a new Rom slot for it and flashed the module after the rom.
Had this issue on the s3 but can't remember what I did to fix it. If anyone has any ideas let me know.

mustk1ll20 said:
Yeaaa lot of reading done after posting lol. Got safestrap running and recovery. Decided on the golden eye rom. For some reason I lose imei. Created a new Rom slot for it and flashed the module after the rom.
Had this issue on the s3 but can't remember what I did to fix it. If anyone has any ideas let me know.
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You have to use the stock slot. You cast use a secondary rom slot
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thanks bro working great now. everything i read said creat a rom slot. even a couple vids.

wouldn't hurt to back up efs also along with a nandroid now or however you do it on SafeStrap. Put a copy of both on PC also--:good:

backed up efs with samsung tools. nice to have an app for that now! also did nandroid.
for anyone who comes across this thread. get samsung tools here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/efs-samsung-tool-universal-support-t2602325
thanks to everyone who replied! really helped me get a grasp on how all these new things work.

mustk1ll20 said:
backed up efs with samsung tools. nice to have an app for that now! also did nandroid.
for anyone who comes across this thread. get samsung tools here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/efs-samsung-tool-universal-support-t2602325
thanks to everyone who replied! really helped me get a grasp on how all these new things work.
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Glad you got it working. ☺
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ok need to go back to stock nl1 any one know how? i searched through the "everything" thread but it doesnt list my version. just how to root. my imei is gone and wifi as well. dont know wtf happened but yea need to go to stock

anybody? i lost custom recovery as well. i don understand how this happened. gonna try and flash NB1 in stock recovery because i cant find nl1.

mustk1ll20 said:
anybody? i lost custom recovery as well. i don understand how this happened. gonna try and flash NB1 in stock recovery because i cant find nl1.
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There is no nl1. Flash the nb1 and ota to.nl1
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Upgrading to 5.0 from NI2

Does 5.0 not suck enough to do this yet? My new car has AndroidAuto and I want to use it but can't with my current 4.4.4 verison. Last I read, 5.0 sucked and everyone was trying to downgrade. I'm currently rooted with xposed framework and would miss not being able to turn my phone into a hotspot so hopefully that's possible by now too. What exactly do I need to do?

If you are on N12 you can get to 5.0 rooted. There are many threads on this. Have a search around!
I used a method by Jkruse, and now can even use safestrap without ODIN.
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ridenickel9 said:
If you are on N12 you can get to 5.0 rooted. There are many threads on this. Have a search around!
I used a method by Jkruse, and now can even use safestrap without ODIN.
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Is there a dedicated thread for the Jkruze method? I see him referenced here but I don't see anything about his method so far.

I used this as I was already rooted on N12. At the bottom of the first post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62333947
If you are not rooted you likely want to start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53447240
Warning/disclaimer: read everything before attempting anything to your phone....multiple times. These links / help may ruin your phone. Be careful

Ok, I get the process now after reading but I don't know how to SafeSTrap on NI2 if I'm already rooted. The instructions aren't clear on that, the title says you'll be able to use SafeStrap without ODIN but if I'm already rooted on KK then it just tells me to boot into safestrap...
Do I need to install SS? Do I need to disable xposed if/when I install it?

Ok I'm in SS now and I'm not sure if I should flash over the stock ROM or use a ROM slot. Thoughts? I already made a backup of the entire system and these phones have useless internal memory so I wanted to save space by wiping/installing over the stock ROM. Are there drawbacks to that?

If your rooted, you should have safestrap installed. When you boot your phone do you get a screen that pops up after the S5 screen?
It would show a image and have 2 buttons. One option would be recovery.

I didn't have it but I do now. My main question is about the slots, should I overwrite the stock one or install along side? Don't really have the storage to keep the stock slot but also don't know if doing that will do something irreplaceable.

Since you can load a stock 5.0 rooted ROM I'd do the stock slot... however, that's your call. Make sure you follow instructions to get right kernel and such.
Will you ever need 4.4.4 again ? Even so, long as you don't update the bootloader and can see it in Odin you can always rebuild.
Remember, once your on 5.0 with the newer kernel you can only get to safestrap by flashing the n12 kernel. U can do it by using odin, or lollipop safestrap application if applicable.
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berfles said:
I didn't have it but I do now. My main question is about the slots, should I overwrite the stock one or install along side? Don't really have the storage to keep the stock slot but also don't know if doing that will do something irreplaceable.
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I don't think the slots were ever working before the dev quit working on it.

Ok cool, that's what I wound up doing anyway and already had to test my backup to see that it worked (it does). Thanks for the help, I'm now on 5.0 and still rooted. Maybe my next step will be xposed, but the only thing I really used on that was the tethering and it already seems to work in this ROM.

Awesome! Glad to hear all is well.
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