I just got a S4, and am currently running rooted stock, and already have a nandroid created. I want to try out some different ROMS...I've noticed that there are some issues with MF9 and MJA.
1. Does anyone know if TriangleAway works with MF9 and MJA?
2. How hard would it be to go back to my rooted stock if something goes wrong
3. Is it any harder to unroot after upgrading?
Triangle away does work with MF9, make sure you are on the stock recovery to use it. MF9 is the most stable of the builds. MJA is great for me but some have had problems. If you do the upgrade to MJA and the bootloader is upgraded to the MJA bootloader than you will not be able to downgrade your bootloader. People have successfully installed 4.2.2 roms and AOSP roms once upgraded to MJA which is 4.3 but you have to make sure you know what you are doing before you screw around with it. Since there is not a full tar file for MJA if you soft brick your phone there isn't an easy odin fix to get back up. It is a much more complicated procedure so be careful.
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Triangle away does work with MF9, make sure you are on the stock recovery to use it. MF9 is the most stable of the builds. MJA is great for me but some have had problems. If you do the upgrade to MJA and the bootloader is upgraded to the MJA bootloader than you will not be able to downgrade your bootloader. People have successfully installed 4.2.2 roms and AOSP roms once upgraded to MJA which is 4.3 but you have to make sure you know what you are doing before you screw around with it. Since there is not a full tar file for MJA if you soft brick your phone there isn't an easy odin fix to get back up. It is a much more complicated procedure so be careful.
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Thanks cruise...so I take it any 4.3 ROMS that are out are using the MJA (Knox) bootloader?
I am trying to decide whether or not it is worth the effort to update to MJA without updating the bootloader per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277480. I am now running 4.2.2 pretty much stock with root. I would like to run the same way on MJA, but don't want to have the wifi problem and would like the option of running stock kernel. I have not been able to find what is causing the wifi problem. Are people taking the OTA experiencing the wifi problem? If I were to install the update as described in the link above without the KT kernel, what is the difference between that and the OTA, other than the bootloader? Why would it experience the wifi problem and not the OTA?
From what I have read you should be fine. I am trying to make the same decision. I'm basically stock mf9 rooted and tweaked.
My understanding is that we could Odin the mja with root and be like we are currently with all the new goodness. The disadvantage, if it is one, is that we could not go back to a mf9 rom due to now having the mja bootloader. I am trying to wait for one of these amazing devs to get a tar or zip together that would be a one flash setup allowing us have all of the new stuff minus the mja bootloader. I don't think I would ever go backwards but I don't want to destroy that option. I probably won't be able to wait much longer and wind up jumping through all the hoops to get the mja modem, 4.3, and keep the mf9 bootloader.
I am in no way a developer and please someone correct me if I am mistaken. I hope this helps you in some way.
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I am trying to decide whether or not it is worth the effort to update to MJA without updating the bootloader per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277480. I am now running 4.2.2 pretty much stock with root. I would like to run the same way on MJA, but don't want to have the wifi problem and would like the option of running stock kernel. I have not been able to find what is causing the wifi problem. Are people taking the OTA experiencing the wifi problem? If I were to install the update as described in the link above without the KT kernel, what is the difference between that and the OTA, other than the bootloader? Why would it experience the wifi problem and not the OTA?
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I just did what you're thinking about doing and my experience has been great. I have the full MJA with out the bootloader. The phone runs stable and fast. No Wifi issues, LTE works, and clear phone calls.
It was more time-consuming than flashing a tar but I'm liking MJA a lot right now.
optimummind said:
I just did what you're thinking about doing and my experience has been great. I have the full MJA with out the bootloader. The phone runs stable and fast. No Wifi issues, LTE works, and clear phone calls.
It was more time-consuming than flashing a tar but I'm liking MJA a lot right now.
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Are you running the stock kernel or KT kernel?
todivefor said:
Are you running the stock kernel or KT kernel?
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The KT kernel with the wifi fix. I didn't mess with the KTweaker settings.
I'm currently running MDC rooted stock with stock kernal. if i update using the thread posted by the OP. Will i be using MJA or MF9 bootloader...i've read throught the instructions and don't see anything about flashing the MF9 bootloader, or would that be the step which removes Knox
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I'm currently running MDC rooted stock with stock kernal. if i update using the thread posted by the OP. Will i be using MJA or MF9 bootloader...i've read throught the instructions and don't see anything about flashing the MF9 bootloader, or would that be the step which removes Knox
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Before I started on the guide, I was on stock, rooted MF9. After the guide, I was MJA everything except the bootloader, which is MF9. As a result, Knox isn't triggered.
Since you're currently on MDC, perhaps you should start by flashing the OEM MF9 tar first through PC Odin.
optimummind said:
Before I started on the guide, I was on stock, rooted MF9. After the guide, I was MJA everything except the bootloader, which is MF9. As a result, Knox isn't triggered.
Since you're currently on MDC, perhaps you should start by flashing the OEM MF9 tar first through PC Odin.
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damn...another slow 1GB+ download
Hi all,
My Google-fu is failing me and I'm not certain of the best route to take a Galaxy S4 SGH-I337 AT&T 4.2.2 MF3 (Rooted with Motochopper) up to the new AT&T 4.3 firmware.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a guide for doing this? Everything I'm reading seems like I'll have to sacrifice my root, flash to stock with Odin, and then wait for AT&T to re-release the OTA update to 4.3. Am I off base?
Motochopper cannot root MF3. We're you able to hold root when you upgraded and are hoping to keep root again?
At the moment yes you will have to sacrifice root. I did. Root keeper does not support android 4.3 and keeping with SuperSU does not work either.
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CAG-man said:
Motochopper cannot root MF3. We're you able to hold root when you upgraded and are hoping to keep root again?
At the moment yes you will have to sacrifice root. I did. Root keeper does not support android 4.3 and keeping with SuperSU does not work either.
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My phone is still rooted at this moment, though I'm on 4.2.2. I haven't upgraded anything yet. I was hoping there was a custom rom or something I could flash to get to 4.3 and retain root.
I'm just gonna wait until a stock 4.3 rom comes out that supports safestrap so I can keep root
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mrpeters said:
My phone is still rooted at this moment, though I'm on 4.2.2. I haven't upgraded anything yet. I was hoping there was a custom rom or something I could flash to get to 4.3 and retain root.
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Since you are rooted with a custom recovery you CAN flash 4.3 now without losing root. Just use ShoStock-i MJ9 4.3http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468860
Or VisionX MJ9 4.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391142
Or Deadly Venom MJ9 4.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2503692
and POSSIBLY a couple other 4.3 Touchwiz firmwares that are found in the Android Development Section
These are all from he International MJ9 firmwares but to me are better than the ATT firmwares for 4.3. The ATT 4.3 removed the Data Toggle completely from the pulldown menu and now you have to go into settings each time to turn it on or off. Plus other changes that are solely LACKING compared to the international firmwares. I have tried two of the above and they are both great and the third from what I have read works great as well. They are all great devs. Try them out and I suggest using the Jeboo 3.0 kernel for best results.
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I concur with RockRatt. Shostock-I is smooth. It is bundled with jeboos 3.0 kernel. Love it. Biased, though. I've been using Sho's roms since my/his s2 days..
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If "mrpeters" is MF3 he can't and shouldn't try flashing a 4.3 rom cause our MF3 Safestrap don't support it at the moment.
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mrpeters said:
Hi all,
My Google-fu is failing me and I'm not certain of the best route to take a Galaxy S4 SGH-I337 AT&T 4.2.2 MF3 (Rooted with Motochopper) up to the new AT&T 4.3 firmware.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a guide for doing this? Everything I'm reading seems like I'll have to sacrifice my root, flash to stock with Odin, and then wait for AT&T to re-release the OTA update to 4.3. Am I off base?
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My phone is still rooted at this moment, though I'm on 4.2.2. I haven't upgraded anything yet. I was hoping there was a custom rom or something I could flash to get to 4.3 and retain root.
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jball said:
If "mrpeters" is MF3 he can't and shouldn't try flashing a 4.3 rom cause our MF3 Safestrap don't support it at the moment.
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I only gave the advice above because he said he is ROOTED WITH MOTOCHOPPER ON MF3. As we know MF3 cannot be rooted with motochopper. So I was guessing that he rooted while on MDL or MDB with motochopper and used a ROM to upgrade to MF3.
So unless he is/was mistaken with those comments and he meant to say rooted on MF3 with safestrap then I would of told him to look at the safestrap threads.
Hopefully he clears things up with that as I WON'T want to give him Bad Advice.
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I didn't quote anybody for a reason.just stating facts based on my reading the OP post.its all good
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Yea there's a difference between having a phone shipped with MF3 and having upgraded to MF3
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My phone stock was MDL and I took the OTA to MF3.
MF3 is MF3
Every time I read a thread anyone starts I also read the profiles of all the people in the threads posted.no clear mention of his base in his profile
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My phone was not MF3 stock. It got upgraded sometime after I rooted. To be completely honest, I'm not sure how. Kies maybe?
All I know is I still have root If I have to wait where I'm at, no big deal!
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My phone was not MF3 stock. It got upgraded sometime after I rooted. To be completely honest, I'm not sure how. Kies maybe?
All I know is I still have root If I have to wait where I'm at, no big deal!
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well my touch screen has stopped working, so now this phone gets to go back to AT&T for repairs.
whats the best way to remove root and factory default it?
sorry to bump an old thread, but I wanted to see if anything had changed so I could upgrade from my rooted 4.2.2 I337UCUAMF3 to one of the newer OS versions that are out. This phone was a warranty replacement, but I had no trouble rooting it with Motochopper when I got it so I don't think it came stock with MF3, but its been 6 months so I can't say for certain.
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sorry to bump an old thread, but I wanted to see if anything had changed so I could upgrade from my rooted 4.2.2 I337UCUAMF3 to one of the newer OS versions that are out. This phone was a warranty replacement, but I had no trouble rooting it with Motochopper when I got it so I don't think it came stock with MF3, but its been 6 months so I can't say for certain.
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You could flash the md3 tar and return it to stock. Then let out update itself. You'll lose root and you'll want to read some of the threads on the general section dealing with mk2 and nb1 before you do so so you know what you're getting in to
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jd1639 said:
You could flash the md3 tar and return it to stock. Then let out update itself. You'll lose root and you'll want to read some of the threads on the general section dealing with mk2 and nb1 before you do so so you know what you're getting in to
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10-4. I don't want to lose root, so that's key. I should have clarified that. I use too many apps (LightFlow, NoBloat, Titanium, etc.) that I wouldn't want to give up.
mrpeters said:
10-4. I don't want to lose root, so that's key. I should have clarified that. I use too many apps (LightFlow, NoBloat, Titanium, etc.) that I wouldn't want to give up.
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You could flash 4.3 MK2 with odin then root with saferoot.
The 4.3 tar can be found here http://d-h.st/wH3 The pit here http://d-h.st/5gz
Saferoot can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
jball said:
My phone stock was MDL and I took the OTA to MF3.
MF3 is MF3
Every time I read a thread anyone starts I also read the profiles of all the people in the threads posted.no clear mention of his base in his profile
My MDL updated itself when I went back to stock and forgot to disable OTA. Now that I'm locked into TW, is there a reason NOT to update to MK2? I know that it will install KNOX but with saferoot and safestrap, I'll have the same functionality of my rooted MF3?
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I am at the same place in my phone. Were you ever able to update to 4.3 I need to do the same to have access to certain options and apps
I currently have Cm 10.2 running on bootloader version MJA. My question, is it safe to upgrade to NAE on cyanogenmod (if the download info even exists yet)? Would i be better off going to a stock TW ROM for NAE?
Thanks.
yarmock said:
I currently have Cm 10.2 running on bootloader version MJA. My question, is it safe to upgrade to NAE on cyanogenmod (if the download info even exists yet)? Would i be better off going to a stock TW ROM for NAE?
Thanks.
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Download the MK2 100% stock tar. Flash it through Odin, then accept/sideload the NAE OTA!
yarmock said:
I currently have Cm 10.2 running on bootloader version MJA. My question, is it safe to upgrade to NAE on cyanogenmod (if the download info even exists yet)? Would i be better off going to a stock TW ROM for NAE?
Thanks.
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If you're just talking about the Modem only you should be Okay; but some are having troubles with MJA/MK2 bootloader and NAE modem combo; some are not. Take a look at the CM/AOSP threads; some are doing that now.
There is a WHOLE LOT of discussion about this in these forums, if you want to know more do some searching and reading about that.
If you take the NAE upgarde, whole bootloader, modem, ROM (from MJA/MK2) do know that you cannot go back to MK2 bootloader! Much like you can't go back to MF9 if you're on the MK2 bootloader
Looking to unroot and want to know when did they introduce the knox bootloader. Basically I want to downgrade and let my phone upgrade back to nae with ota's. I'm currently nae modem sac's 4.4 rom..
MJA I think. Once you take OTAs to NAE you will have Knox.
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Why take the ota when you can just install the full nae tar and be updated in one quick and easy step.