I just got a S4, and am currently running rooted stock, and already have a nandroid created. I want to try out some different ROMS...I've noticed that there are some issues with MF9 and MJA.
1. Does anyone know if TriangleAway works with MF9 and MJA?
2. How hard would it be to go back to my rooted stock if something goes wrong
3. Is it any harder to unroot after upgrading?
Triangle away does work with MF9, make sure you are on the stock recovery to use it. MF9 is the most stable of the builds. MJA is great for me but some have had problems. If you do the upgrade to MJA and the bootloader is upgraded to the MJA bootloader than you will not be able to downgrade your bootloader. People have successfully installed 4.2.2 roms and AOSP roms once upgraded to MJA which is 4.3 but you have to make sure you know what you are doing before you screw around with it. Since there is not a full tar file for MJA if you soft brick your phone there isn't an easy odin fix to get back up. It is a much more complicated procedure so be careful.
cruise350 said:
Triangle away does work with MF9, make sure you are on the stock recovery to use it. MF9 is the most stable of the builds. MJA is great for me but some have had problems. If you do the upgrade to MJA and the bootloader is upgraded to the MJA bootloader than you will not be able to downgrade your bootloader. People have successfully installed 4.2.2 roms and AOSP roms once upgraded to MJA which is 4.3 but you have to make sure you know what you are doing before you screw around with it. Since there is not a full tar file for MJA if you soft brick your phone there isn't an easy odin fix to get back up. It is a much more complicated procedure so be careful.
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Thanks cruise...so I take it any 4.3 ROMS that are out are using the MJA (Knox) bootloader?
is there one floating around?
i looked but didnt see one
Most Roms are MJA or MK2 now as devs always stay on top of the latest updates. Download stock rooted MF9 and debloat it yourself. I can't remember which ROM might still be on MF9,
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daniel4653 said:
Most Roms are MJA or MK2 now as devs always stay on top of the latest updates. Download stock rooted MF9 and debloat it yourself. I can't remember which ROM might still be on MF9,
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i have done the domestic lock so i thought it was good to stay on mf9 with mdc modem. thought about flashing modem back to mf9 as the modem will still stay unlocked but if i goto mja or mk2 i think i loose the unlock carrier mod and plus how do you all deal with knox?
figured most people would still want to stay on a firmware you could downgrade when you want and flash what you want without to much trouble
you think i should stay on mf9 considering my needs or is mja and mk2 ok to upgrade to now?
Bear with me please. Upgraded to S4 from S3 that was running Task650 ROM.
I have searched and am a bit confused with the Locked, Loki Doki, MK2, etc. I have searched and cannot find info as far as what I can upgrade to without causing Locked Bootloader or other problems. I have read the FAQ's and they do not mention what to do if you are on MDB. Phone is 2 weeks old and all I have done to Root with Casual.
So what can I do with MDB without causing problems?
Thank you in advance!!!
You can do everything on mdb as you can on mdl. You can root and put a custom recovery on and use Odin. If it was me I'd use Odin to upgrade to mdl and then put cwm or twrp custom recovery on it. Then a custom Rom. You'll still need to use Loki.
jd1639 said:
You can do everything on mdb as you can on mdl. You can root and put a custom recovery on and use Odin. If it was me I'd use Odin to upgrade to mdl and then put cwm or twrp custom recovery on it. Then a custom Rom. You'll still need to use Loki.
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Should have said. I do also have TWRP on it now.
What advantage to MDL is there?
o2man98 said:
Should have said. I do also have TWRP on it now.
What advantage to MDL is there?
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Not much, it's just an update you can take without having to worry of locking the bootloader any tighter.
o2man98 said:
Should have said. I do also have TWRP on it now.
What advantage to MDL is there?
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As jd said, you have freedom and you can take the MDL odin just fine. But never take any OTA's or use any other ODIN packages, and if you're running stock then freeze the OTA apps or it will force update. Other than that remember to use loki when you flash and you'll be fine.
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I thought I saw in some rom OPS a few months that devs were recommending to be on mdl before flashing their rom. Maybe when some 4.3s came out. But not sure.
I've been using the Negalite ROM 4.3 for a while and I like it a lot but recently my phone has been lagging hard for no reason and will reboot itself.
Does anyone know the cause and I was wondering to install 4.4 can I just system update it or flash the 4.4 ROM? Also is 4.4 worth it? I see people having battery problems. Give me some advice please
i7vSa7vi7y said:
I've been using the Negalite ROM 4.3 for a while and I like it a lot but recently my phone has been lagging hard for no reason and will reboot itself.
Does anyone know the cause and I was wondering to install 4.4 can I just system update it or flash the 4.4 ROM? Also is 4.4 worth it? I see people having battery problems. Give me some advice please
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Go on the Negalite page and look at the last page i just posted my battery life and see if its something you may like. I'm on r6 and I'm sure an update will be coming out in the next few days. But i haven't updated my modem yet. And theres no hotspot as of rite now but soon!!!!!!!
How do you get NAE? I'm on MK2. I want to flash 4.4 tonight
Dont update the modem!!!!!!!! if you do, prepare yourself for better 4g signal but intence..i mean insane batt drain!!
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Negalite 4.4 had been running great for me, had it since the 20th so far. Battery is about the same I feel I had on cm11 before it.
What is the modem? Don't I just flash this like every other ROM?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521870
It is recommended that the modem/firmware be flashed via Odin prior to upgrading the rom.
Here us UF firmware thread with instructions/all firmware downloads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338919
BTW, just got done upgrading from mf9 to nae (via mk2), keeping the mf9 bootloader.
Got lucky and dirty flashed all the way through. Now on Negalite r9 rom/r30 kernel.
All good except for the issue with lockscreen being greyed out.
ajmcedar said:
It is recommended that the modem/firmware be flashed via Odin prior to upgrading the rom.
Here us UF firmware thread with instructions/all firmware downloads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338919
BTW, just got done upgrading from mf9 to nae (via mk2), keeping the mf9 bootloader.
Got lucky and dirty flashed all the way through. Now on Negalite r9 rom/r30 kernel.
All good except for the issue with lockscreen being greyed out.
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Thank you. Now we are getting somewhere haha. How do I know which bootloader I have? I want 4.4 on a solid ROM with some performance tweaks. Why did chris say not to flash the modem/firmware? Is there a way to get 4.4 without doing that. I'm assuming I flash the NAE firmware before I install the ROM correct? Performance and battery life are my main priorities so if I should try a different ROM let me know. I don't leave my data on all day by the way so I don't think I should be affected too much. All help is appreciated
So let me get this process straight.
Flash the NAE firmware via Odin - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338919
Then flash the ROM
Then the r30 kernal
correct??
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663619
Follow the directions to ODIN the NAE tar **CAUTION** This includes the NAE bootloader and will cause Knox to trip as soon as you root it. Personally, I don't care; I'm only one year away from an upgrade if I want it.
ODIN the updated CF Autoroot.
ODIN Philz Recovery
Flash Negalite WondeROM NAE r6
Profit
I've flashed r10 (not released, but available on SVN) and it has a working WIFI tether. The only issue is that I had to flash KT instead of Nega's Kernel over it to stop a boot loop. Other than that it works great. This is my first day with r10, but no significant battery drain issues to report. My Negalite flash was a clean install.
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i7vSa7vi7y said:
So let me get this process straight.
Flash the NAE firmware via Odin - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338919
Then flash the ROM
Then the r30 kernal
correct??
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You need to ODIN CF Autoroot and Philz first before you can flash Negalite. You'll lose root with that tar
Easiest way to check your bootloader is to use one of the following apps.
Root Checker
Device Info
Nega's WondeROM has always been a stable performing ROM with great battery life.
Not sure why the hate for the NAE modem.
Also not sure about the mismatch between modem and ROM, I haven't seen many posts about it being anything bad.
Nega's NAE r10 (only available via SVN) already comes with the r30 kernel. I built the r9 after stuffing the services.odex from r7.
conradcbrown said:
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663619
Follow the directions to ODIN the NAE tar **CAUTION** This includes the NAE bootloader and will cause Knox to trip as soon as you root it. Personally, I don't care; I'm only one year away from an upgrade if I want it.
ODIN the updated CF Autoroot.
ODIN Philz Recovery
Flash Negalite WondeROM NAE r6
Profit
I've flashed r10 (not released, but available on SVN) and it has a working WIFI tether. The only issue is that I had to flash KT instead of Nega's Kernel over it to stop a boot loop. Other than that it works great. This is my first day with r10, but no significant battery drain issues to report. My Negalite flash was a clean install.
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You need to ODIN CF Autoroot and Philz first before you can flash Negalite. You'll lose root with that tar
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I already have Philz Recovery so Im good there. What is knox exactly. Is that just the words on the top left on startup that tells samsung your phone has been tampered with?
How did AJ manage to keep MF9 bootloader?
So Odin CF Autoroot.
Then I'm going to Stock NAE
NAE firmware then to the ROM and Kernal?
I need to flash the Stock NAE? I can't go from MK2 to NAE firmware then to ROM?
Thanks AJ. How would you recommend flashing this ROM from MK2 bootloader? I love my S4 and I just don't want to go through and bootloops or any other non sense. I'm just looking for another opinion. It looks like comrad gave me everything the safest way.
I had never taken any of the OTA updates since mf9, was still on the 4.2.2 no knox mf9 bootloader.
I kept MF9 bootloader (already rooted, Philz 6.08.9) by:
Odin the firmware for mk2 from UnknowForces thread, then rebooted to verify.
Went into Philz recovery, loaded Nega's mk5 r35 rom. Rebooted and let it settle.
Odin the firmware for nae, again from Unkown's thread, rebooted to verify firmware and baseband.
Philz recovery to load Nega's nae r6 rom. Rebooted, let it settle.
Nandroid backup using Philz with SE context checked (required since the 4.3 update) once I was sure all was good.
Setup SVN for any new commits from Nega.
Again, all this was doen via dirty flashing, YMMV.
i7vSa7vi7y said:
I already have Philz Recovery so Im good there. What is knox exactly. Is that just the words on the top left on startup that tells samsung your phone has been tampered with?
How did AJ manage to keep MF9 bootloader?
So Odin CF Autoroot.
Then I'm going to Stock NAE
NAE firmware then to the ROM and Kernal?
I need to flash the Stock NAE? I can't go from MK2 to NAE firmware then to ROM?
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When/if you flash the tar, it'll flash the stock recovery as well, which is why you need to start over from scratch basically. The NAE tar from sammobile is the end-all be-all and includes the stock recovery, bootloader, modem, ROM, etc.
Yes, basically Knox just keeps track of how many times you've flashed a custom recovery and could void your warranty for software issues.
You can keep your bootloader if you decide to flash Negalite on top without pushing the tar over ODIN. I did that for a week or two with no significant issues, but did have a little lagginess in the phone (could have been subjective) and I couldn't resist seeing what the latest and greatest felt like. But no, I had no real issues flashing r6 over a MK2 bootloader and MF9 modem.
i7vSa7vi7y said:
Thanks AJ. How would you recommend flashing this ROM from MK2 bootloader? I love my S4 and I just don't want to go through and bootloops or any other non sense. I'm just looking for another opinion. It looks like comrad gave me everything the safest way.
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Just Odin the nae modem from Unknown's firmware thread, then Philz recovery to flash Nega's nae rom/kernel, I believe that the only downloadable zip is his r6. Newer versions requires SVN to download the latest commits, then his scripts to create the flashable zips.
Ok. Thank you guys once again. Should I factory reset, wipe delvik and cache before all of this?
i7vSa7vi7y said:
Ok. Thank you guys once again. Should I factory reset, wipe delvik and cache before all of this?
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I only did dalvik and cache. Others recommend full wipe/factory reset, but I like to live on the edge and wanted to keep my setup.
Originally I did the full wipe/factory reset/clean for an new rom, (after I did a nandroid of my current setup). all my apps/personalization got wiped.
I restored my previous nandroid and proceeded going forward with dirty flashes. It worked for me, but YMMV, each device/situation is different.
Good luck.
"I like to live on the edge" lmao!
I'm just going to start from scratch sense some app or something is destroying my RAM and pising me off. That's what made me want to update in the first place. That and I like the new features. Well anyways thank you guys for the help. I appreciate it a lot. I love this community. I'll report back how it goes.
Is there a single ROM out there for someone who went from MDL(I am pretty sure), who then ODIN'd MF9 way back last year...who then ODIN'd NAE MODEM ONLY, and is able to use their phone or camera, on ANY ROM whatsoever?
ive tried Negalite and SACS...using philz and twrp respectively, full wipes and all...roms install, some better than others...but on neither can I use phone or camera...and in 12 hours I am going to be halfway across the ocean
if anyone who knows of a similar situation, and has an idea for a rom that I can use while currently on MF9 bootloader, but NAE modem...pls help
thanks
Youll have a wayyyy easier time just Odining a full NAE tar..
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Youll have a wayyyy easier time just Odining a full NAE tar..
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okay...but my firmware and radio both say nae...whats a full nae tar gonna change?
That's the current version of the official ROM.
Sorry i meant MF9. Since your on MF9 bootloader than you should be able to flash the MF9 tar right? This way your at least back to a normally functioning firmware. Then just flash your favorite rom. I'm not sure about your specific situation. Its a little hectic. Lol but this would be my best guess and probably correct. Lol this way you'll at least have a funtioning device.. right?
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Sorry i meant MF9. Since your on MF9 bootloader than you should be able to flash the MF9 tar right? This way your at least back to a normally functioning firmware. Then just flash your favorite rom. I'm not sure about your specific situation. Its a little hectic. Lol but this would be my best guess and probably correct. Lol this way you'll at least have a funtioning device.. right?
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true...so odin flash an mf9, like i was originally on, then find another rom thats working on mf9? suggestions? i loved sacs and negalite, but i believe ive got to be nae for those....
Im sure thats not a problem. NAE is simply the baseband/bootloader. This is not affected by rom.
TrickyD76 said:
true...so odin flash an mf9, like i was originally on, then find another rom thats working on mf9? suggestions? i loved sacs and negalite, but i believe ive got to be nae for those....
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You could try and flash stick rooted nae ROM and if that works for you then dirty flash nega or sacs.