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Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 - just a large Galaxy Note

Samsung has just revealed the Galaxy Note 10.1 - it's 10.1-inch and "only" with the same specs of Galaxy Note:
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Specs:
1.4 GHz Exynos DC
10.1 Inch Screen (1280x800 Resolution)
Android 4.0
3 MP Cam
16GB/32GB/64 GB
S-Pen

Same specs as the Note, except for the camera. This has 3Mpixel camera as a main one. According to PCworld, the built-in S Note program spawns a window to the right of the Web browser, so as to take notes while still surfing. 7000mAh battery, Android 4.0 and will come in 16, 32, and 64GB models. Keep in mind this has the same resolution as the Note.
However, i still wouldn't buy it. The reason is portability.

meh ill pass i already have a Gtab 10.1, cant wait for the Note 2 tho .

Im a bit sad as it does not have 1920x1080.. would have been awesome though!

EarlZ said:
Im a bit sad as it does not have 1920x1080.. would have been awesome though!
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Don't you think that's an overkill for a tiny screen? I think 1280x800 or 1600x900 is plenty...
Many 30 and 40'' tv's still have only 1366x768.

Always the same discussion. The difference here is that you so not sit 10 inches from that 40" TV. You usually sit 10 feet away. So the screen is bigger but also you are farther away.
Also we are forgetting the big difference between the 5.3" and 10.1" Note, the smaller one is a phone, has 3G radio.
The good thing about this announcement is that it has ICS on it, and, as the internal hardware is the same as the 5.3" Note, it means it should not take much time to get a ICS ROM for our note. They just have to add drivers for the phone and FM radio parts.
kanej2006 said:
Don't you think that's an overkill for a tiny screen? I think 1280x800 or 1600x900 is plenty...
Many 30 and 40'' tv's still have only 1366x768.
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Agree with above

I was hoping it would be a new a15 processor, but sadly it seems that is not the case :-(
As great as the specs of the note are at present, they are going to be quickly over taken once the Snapdragon S4s and Tegra 3s start hitting the market.
Also the resolution of the screen, whilst acceptable, is going to look outdated in less than a month.
I know these are the perils of buying any high end android device, but I was hoping Samsung would be smart enough to be 1 step ahead. Seems not.

With Apple releasing a retina display for iPad 3 1280x800 is a bit underwhelming for a new tablet. It's not a penile screen though, so that differs from the note.
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Here's what Slashgear thinks about it:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-eyes-on-27215509/

One great thing about it is the bundled Adobe photoshop touch and Adobe ideas software that you get for free. They look really nice, and they cost £6.99 or $9.99 each to buy on their own, so it's great to have them included.
Would it be really optimistic to hope that once the original note gets ICS, those apps will be added to the Samsung app store for note owners to download for free?... Pretty please Samsung?

since the the galaxy note has basically the same hardware.. i wonder if we can just interchange roms

kanej2006 said:
Don't you think that's an overkill for a tiny screen? I think 1280x800 or 1600x900 is plenty...
Many 30 and 40'' tv's still have only 1366x768.
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Nothing is over kill. I dont know why TV comparisons got into this but it makes no sense what so ever.
purple zebra said:
I was hoping it would be a new a15 processor, but sadly it seems that is not the case :-(
As great as the specs of the note are at present, they are going to be quickly over taken once the Snapdragon S4s and Tegra 3s start hitting the market.
Also the resolution of the screen, whilst acceptable, is going to look outdated in less than a month.
I know these are the perils of buying any high end android device, but I was hoping Samsung would be smart enough to be 1 step ahead. Seems not.
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Zamboney said:
With Apple releasing a retina display for iPad 3 1280x800 is a bit underwhelming for a new tablet. It's not a penile screen though, so that differs from the note.
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These tablets feel like a refresh, probably the real game changer is the rumored Tab/Note 11.6 which is probably on a separate event.

No AMOLED display? sigh
Even though AMOLED colors, dynamic range, and 'white balance' (too warm) stinks, but, i'm accustomed to its super contrasty fakeness

Well yeah, same name but bigger, dont think they will upgrade it so much

Can it make phone calls? If not, then I perfer the 7.7

great ! I need the phone with the same size !

Personally I'm quite excited by this.
GSM Arena have reported that its the same screen as the standard Galaxy Tab but with a different Digitizer to support the S-Pen, According to them its quite a bit quicker than the S-Pen running on the 5.3" so hopefully the ICS upgrade will be including the new drivers to upgrade the performance of the pen.
Other than that, its a fantastic idea. Sit in the office all day designing using your regular Photoshop Set-Up with a Wacom tablet, Then go home and chill on your sofa and continue your design using your 10.1" Wacom Powered Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and then continue your work on the bus on your Wacom Powered 5.3" Samsung Galaxy Note 5.3.
This makes the device a designers paradise, I'm not a designer and I never will be... But I think this is a good shot by Samsung to try and take a device away from the regular Power-Users.

Zamboney said:
With Apple releasing a retina display for iPad 3 1280x800 is a bit underwhelming for a new tablet. It's not a penile screen though, so that differs from the note.
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lol. "penile"?

Think i'll wait for ver2 to appear in 12 months or so - it may have a quadcore by then, which would make it a real powerhourse for photo editing RAW files striaght from camera.

Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 - Discussion Thread (in stock)

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It is available for preorder at Negri Electronics for 750USD (a little steep imho)!
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-gt-n8000-galaxy-note-10-1-16gb-unlocked-white.html#.UBusDE3iYvv
Another infi here, use G Translate:
http://www.netbooknews.de/75937/sam...s-kommt-am-9-august-hardware-specs-bestatigt/
How to root video: http://androidroot.org/watch_video.php?v=3B53OKX72N7R
So, after many speculation it has a QUAD core CPU, 2GB RAM and a 5MP Camera. The only drawback is the 720 screen, not 1080, but anyway it is the perfect tablet imho, you can do everything with it!.
Will you buy it, and why?

That's WAY too expensive for a tablet.
Especially since it is a 16GB. They can't compete with prices like that.

lol 750 USD? this is gonna be a joke.

A Watcom digitizer is alone 200$ and when the tablet will be available on proper retail channels it will be around 550$. So, under that price it will worth every penny.

If the pen is not necessary, this is a subpar tablet. The TF700 is better.

This is the only thing that makes me want the tablet, SPen, and also Samsung build quality, i own the Prime and i know what i am talking about. TF700 suffers the same I/O problems like TF201.

I have been saving since introduction of first iPad to buy this. I have used windows tablets with wacom pens and only I know how frustrating that is.
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For that money they could provide NFC ...i don't understand the omission, you could pair it with your phone easily, Nexus 7 has it. At least it has BT 4.0.

it's a beautiful tablet with a great specs and s-pen but it's a little bit expensive.
i wonder what for the infra-red, remote control what, note 2 maybe?! samsung smart tv maybe?

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 also has IR for the control of TVs and other IR enabled devices.

BTW, this device has the Apt-x codec for bluetooth audio (also BT 4.0 I believe). This codec works great and is sort of rare right now. OS X has it built in but it's sometimes difficult to use (other codecs compete, for some reason). Anyway, there is presently only a handful of devices that use this. I want it as I own a Soundmatters Foxl that uses this codec. It works well and sounds better than regular bluetooth audio (which is marginal).
Note: It's interesting that OS X has this codec but iOS does not. Lame. Also, it's apparently one of the only Android device that uses it.

I hope it does have exFat support (ntfs in my dreams .. ), my Prime has it.

Nice commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbgBxr4H59A&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Having waited ages for this tablet's release the specs are disappointing. Not for me I'm afraid...still no Android tablet out there that I can justify purchasing

diverblue said:
Having waited ages for this tablet's release the specs are disappointing. Not for me I'm afraid...still no Android tablet out there that I can justify purchasing
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What is it that you are missing?

Strange, why no 1080p? This one is top of the line Samsung tablet at the moment, should got at least 1080p. 1280x800 for 10.1" tablet is so yesteryear imo. Battery concern? Mali-400 can't handle 1080p?

brooon said:
What is it that you are missing?
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When I sit down and give it a bit more thought perhaps I am being over critical...I just can't get excited yet! Will have to wait and see how it fairs in hands on reviews. I just hope the S Pen calibration is improved over the N7000. As a left handed user I find it pretty poor and the continuous cycle of having to reset the 'left handed' calibration option in the pen options is just frustrating, especially on a device designed to work with a pen! A slight bump in screen resolution and processor speed would have been a nice touch, though on balance these aren't necessarily going to be deal breakers.

I really don't need 1080 screen resolution...it comes with age (worse eye site)
As for pen, it's something different because it has 1024 pressure levels, not just 256 like our Note does.
Another selling point for me is the inclusion of 2GB of RAM, dreaming of dual booting in Ubuntu (or in worst case WinRT which needs a lot of RAM).

diverblue said:
When I sit down and give it a bit more thought perhaps I am being over critical...I just can't get excited yet! Will have to wait and see how it fairs in hands on reviews. I just hope the S Pen calibration is improved over the N7000. As a left handed user I find it pretty poor and the continuous cycle of having to reset the 'left handed' calibration option in the pen options is just frustrating, especially on a device designed to work with a pen! A slight bump in screen resolution and processor speed would have been a nice touch, though on balance these aren't necessarily going to be deal breakers.
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Sorry for the slight off topic but Touch Screen Tune from the market sorts out calibration. Does need root.
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Also, if i activate the pen cursor in ICS i don't feel the need for any calibration.

Galaxy Grand 2 launching in India in first week of January

Samsung*recently made the Galaxy Grand 2 official, and now the company has unveiled the device in one of the original Galaxy Grand’s most important market at a dedicated launch event. The second-generation Grand will be launching in India in the first week of January – a price tag hasn’t been mentioned, but according to*BGR, it should be priced somewhere between Rs. 22,900 (~ $370) and Rs. 24,900 (~ $400). That’s not exactly the most sensible price in a market like India, where local players offer much better hardware at lower prices (not to mention the Galaxy S3 can be had for around the same price), but Samsung’s brand and marketing power should ensure the Grand 2 is every bit a success as the original Grand.
When it comes to specs, the Galaxy Grand 2 sports numerous upgrades over its predecessor, mainly in the screen, CPU, and software department. There’s a 5.25-inch screen with 720p resolution, 1.2GHz quad-core processor, 1.5GB of RAM, 8-megapixel rear camera with 1080p video recording, 2-megapixel front-facing camera, 8GB of internal storage expandable via microSD cards (up to 64GB), and a 2,600 mAh battery. It runs on Android 4.3 out of the box, which technically makes it compatible with the Galaxy Gear, though it remains to be seen if Samsung will officially offer Galaxy Gear support considering the device’s mid-range nature.
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lol what for you reserving the post?
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One word : overpriced
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Meh
Add some more bucks and buy note II
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Not worth the price... screen is too big IMO. 5" is already on the borderline of being useless unless you have a gigantic hand... ideal screen is like 4.5-4.7" Moto G is a much better deal, all around great price with reasonable specs and almost vanilla stock Android.. but I guess there is not much choice in the dual SIM world.
Yet another planned obsolence device from Samsung...
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i just know one thing..from next time better take a phone with rich ppi and Non broadcomm processor... (coz lets be fair, it reduces quality and makes things work)..its bettr sm1 take oldy nexus 4....better then dat atleast its smthng with non broadcomm thing.(i hate this weak chipset)...its dual core is mostly similar to one core of a good quality chipset...second is ppi..300+ ppi is demand today.....and don't have it..
not to forget most games play on our grand in low quality bcoz our resolution is sick.....!!
so is grand 2 resolution (if we compare with today's good phones)..

A price of 19000 to 21 thousand is too overpriced
http://www.prodsea.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Grand-2/mobiles-price-1003-1994
Nothing different to the earlier grand, just a better ram and some minor changes. Not worth to go for it when Nexus or an Galaxy S3 is in a little more reach

Samsung was clever, Grand lines isn't targeted for geeks who value specs... it's for ordinary people who desire a decent and affordable dual SIM device. i9082/L had everything to satisfy ordinary people: dual SIM, 8MP camera, 5" screen albeit low res, but Samsung knows ordinary people just won't recognize the difference, and the most important... the price.
Now Samsung seems to be lost at its own goal, ok they want to satisfy ordinary people with this but they shouldn't have increased the price... all the upgrades are on the specs side, which ordinary people rarely understands and values.

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Samsung was clever, Grand lines isn't targeted for geeks who value specs... it's for ordinary people who desire a decent and affordable dual SIM device. i9082/L had everything to satisfy ordinary people: dual SIM, 8MP camera, 5" screen albeit low res, but Samsung knows ordinary people just won't recognize the difference, and the most important... the price.
Now Samsung seems to be lost at its own goal, ok they want to satisfy ordinary people with this but they shouldn't have increased the price... all the upgrades are on the specs side, which ordinary people rarely understands and values.
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three of my friends also have grand duos and they are very happy with their ordinary grands....only thing is i am happier bcoz i am on 4.4.2....which they dont understand............i had to upgrade their firmware through odin to latest 4.2.2...........that also they dont know like me some 6-7 months ago..........but they are a happy bunch...:victory:

Grand 2 is really overpriced.
Better get Sony Xperia ZL or Xperia ZR for this price as they are way better phones than the Grand or Grand 2.

Samsung tried make this Grand thing look classy with leather look plastic, but it's ridiculous. Not a phony if the price was cheap
And now I heard from gsmarena.com there will be Grand Neo(Lite) launch in mid-February, the spec is come between Grand first and Grand 2.
I think this is a Joke,

Well the faux leather is Samsung's response to consumer complaints about their horrible build quality... using Hyperglaze plastic which is slippery, fingerprint magnet, and so outdated (like a 2006 phone). But it's just fooling the consumers really... I have seen Note 3 Ads with text like "delicate leather stitching" DUDE ARE YOU F***ING SERIOUS THIS IS STILL PLASTIC. I mean if they really want to go with plastic why choose the Hyperglaze or the faux leather. Why can't they use soft-touch plastic like the one in Nexus 5. I just never understand Samsung's design philosophy...
I seriously would prefer if they release few high quality products, not a lot of them but with the same recycled faux leather design and juggling alternative specs... one thing for sure is that however high-end a Samsung phone specs is, it will always have lags due to Touchwiz.

[Q] Camera 2 API, manual control, and RAW (DNG)

So I recently read somewhere that Samsung have not implemented the latest camera API that supports full manual control and RAW output on Lollipop.. And I only found this out after going to the trouble of installing XtreStoLite INTL v.2.0 Lollipop BETA 4 on my 900i and trying to have some fun with Camera FV-5. I'm a little irritated at Samsung for this omission and hope they rectify the situation soon. In the meantime, are there any ROMs out there that have this implementation, or is it something that can only be pulled out of an official Samsung ROM once they get their act together? I've tried a CM12 nightly with no success as well. Camera FV-5 says there is no support, and L Camera just wont run at all.
Thanks

Ok, so I've done some additional research, starting here and here. In a nutshell it is up to Samsung to utilize the additional camera functionality that Lollipop has brought to the table, which among other things requires a reworked camera driver I believe (as mentioned here). And since I don't think we'll ever see a sufficiently capable open source camera driver it seems that we will indeed be at Samsung's mercy here when it comes to the arrival of features like manual camera control and RAW output on the S5 running Lollipop.

Thanks for your research. It is annoying that Samsung chooses to ignore this issue and not add more manual options. Maybe they're doing that on purpose so we buy their K Zoom series? No idea, but that's annoying since it is so easy for them to add that. Many companies have added manual controls even before kitkat! Samsung thinks they know how to optimize their camera better than us and want us to shoot the way they want us to shoot, not fair..

I was very disappointed with the Samsung for not implementing a new feature to the camera 2 api on lollipop. :crying::crying:

Even on BOA3 update there is no camera2 API support!
This update brings no audio lag: Who care about that?!
I'm really disappointed because some times ago I read an article: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8703/quick-note-android-camera2-and-external-isps
The Galaxy Note 3, S5, S4 Exynos, Note 4, and all Nexus device should support the full set of features in camera2 as they seem to only use an on-die ISP.
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So You can imagine how I feel.. :'(

+1 For this ... I am tired of being at Samsung mercy.

I'm afraid that S6 will kill any further development on S5.. so forget about camera2 API?

Shame on Samsung
I'm afraid DJ Palmis might be right.
Rumours are that the new S6 will support the Camera 2 API. This offers a possibility to differentiate the new flagship from the previous one.
But it hurts since I've bought the S5 plus only 4 months ago and I did this while I anticipated the new Android 5.0 functionality and specifically the
ability to use the RAW format. I can hardly accept that my new camera/phone should already have become obsolete.
I hope that it will be possible to derive a new driver from the new S6 driver.

Well, I e-mailed Samsung asking them when they would release an update with a new camera driver and the answer I got was (translated to english): "We will begin updating this successively but presently we unfortunately have no date for when the update containing the camera 2 API will be released. But the update is under development!"
So it seems they are atleast working on it.

Well done on getting a response. All I got was a silly canned reply from some customer service rep who clearly didn't understand what I was talking about.
Great news

https://mobile.twitter.com/supercurio/status/568832675458387968 Google translate is not so good.. Any help from french people?
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I have no hope.

http://samsung.hdblog.it/2015/03/07/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-supporta-le-API-Camera-di-Lollipop/ Camera 2 API on Galaxy S6.. What a surprise!

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I'm afraid that S6 will kill any further development on S5.. so forget about camera2 API
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Not likely, Samsung still supports S3 and S4's for firmware updates, so I doubt when the S6 comes out, S5's will not be supported.

Not working on S6
DJ Palmis said:
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2015/03/07/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-supporta-le-API-Camera-di-Lollipop/ Camera 2 API on Galaxy S6.. What a surprise!
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I tested S6 and I don't have good news for all of You. Even though it fully passed the test of Manual Camera Compatibility application, manual functions of camera2 in Camera FV-5 are not available.

Not a big problem for me because I'll never buy a smartphone with an embedded battery and no sd card.
Anyway: Camera FV-5 was not compatible even with Nexus phones.
Just give them time to develop a compatible version.
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Not likely, Samsung still supports S3 and S4's for firmware updates, so I doubt when the S6 comes out, S5's will not be supported.
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It depends on the meaning of "firmware update". For example there will be no Lollipop for Galaxy S3. No news on Galaxy S4.
That's because when firmware upgrade is related to some deep OS changes.. Mobile brands simply ignore the old devices.

http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/ from the brand new Francois Simond website

Camera fv5 not compatible even with nexus phones?? What are you talking about? It runs for me!

explorer-10 said:
Camera fv5 not compatible even with nexus phones?? What are you talking about? It runs for me!
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Keep calm and I wrote "was"..

After the s5 I am done with samsung and their ridiculousness. High hopes for the 2015 N5

Hello,
I have worked on Android camera SW porting in my now defunct previous company (STEricsson). The fact that a phone supports the new API depends on several things all of which are not Samsung decision only.
The Samsung Android camera application (java one) depends on the Android framework Camera HW services abstraction. The Camera HAL. This camera service is implemented by whatever compagny provides the phone processor.
So if your GS5 uses a qualcomm processor, having the new Camera2 API depends on qualcomm implementing it.
Now for what is related to having support for RAW camera images it is more a system issue.
2 types of Camera chips exists. The ones that do all of the image processing on the camera chip itslef (SOC camera chips), the ones that delegate the image processing to the phone chip (RAW cameras chips).
The cameras that do the image processing in the camera chips (SOC cameras = system on chip cameras) usually directly stream jpeg images to the processor chip. With such camera, the famous RAW format stays inside the SOC camera and is hence not available to the phone processor (the qualcomm chip for instance).
The RAW cameras on the other hand do almost no image processing on their own, they send the raw images to the phone processor which will do the processing.
So in the end, if for a given phone (GS5 or other) Samsung has chosen to use a SOC camera you will never have RAW image support whatever the ROM you use, if Samsung chose to use a RAW camera chip, it is possible one day to have support for RAW images.

Full Nexus 5X Spec Blowout

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Nexus 5X
The all-around champ is back
Introducing Nexus 5X
Capturing the soul of the Nexus family, Nexus 5X offers a 5.2-inch display, top-line performance, and an all-day battery in a compact, lightweight device that’s ready to take on the day with you.
Hitting the sweet spot
Beneath the 5.2-inch display is a hexa—core Qualcomm® Snapdragon“ 808 processor, for world- class speed at an affordable price.
A powerful camera that captures more light
The larger 1.55um pixels capture more light, even in the dimmest conditions, for stunning images. A faster Google Camera app and smart Google Photos app will keep your memories at your fingertips.
Simplified security: One fingertip
Access is quicker and more secure with a fingerprint sensor placed on the back of your device. One touch turns on your phone and unlocks compatible apps .
Always new. Now running Marshmallow.
Built from the inside out to make the most of the world’s most popular OS, with Android 6.0 Marshmallow right out of the box and automatic software updates as they’re released.
The best of Google in the palm of your hand
Your favorite Google apps come pre-installed. Search, Maps, Chrome, YouTube, Photos, Gmail, Drive, and so much more — it’s all there waiting for you.
Technical Specifications:
Operating System
Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Display
5.2 inches
FHD (1920 x 1080) LCD at 424 ppi
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3
Fingerprint— and smudge-resistant oleophobic coating
Rear Camera
12.3 MP
1.55 um pixels
F/2.0 aperture
IR laser-assisted autofocus
4K (340 fps) video capture
Broad-spectrum CRI—90 dual flash
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5 MP
1.4um pixels
F/2.2 aperture
Processors
Qualcomm® Snapdragon” 808 processor, 2.0 GHz hexa-core 64-bit
Adreno 418 GPU
Memory & Storage
RAM: 2 GB LPDDR3 Internal storage: 16 GB or 32 GB
Dimensions
147.0 x 72.6 x 7.9 mm
Weight
136 g
Sensors
Fingerprint sensor
Sensor Hub
Accelerometer
Gyroscope
Barometer
Proximity sensor
Ambient light sensor
Hall sensor
Android Context Hub
Ports
Micro USB Type-C
3.5 mm audio jack
Single Nano SIM slot
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Not sure what to think? I want most of the specs from the 6P to be in the 5X, 5.7 screen is just to big

that's too bad, even the 32GB version only has 2GB of RAM. they're going to miss a ton of sales due to this alone.
no SD card was expected, but people who are new to Nexus devices won't like that either.
sales will be even softer due to no carriers or brick & mortar retailers selling it.
for those wanting a ~5" device, next one to look fwd to will be the OnePlus Mini which should be out by Christmas.

I thought other leaked info indicated camera sensor is RGBW?

Well now we know that the price for 16GB is $379 (probably will be well over £300 I reckon) we can safely say this thing is not that competitive really, on specs or on price. Makes it an easy decision for me.

4K, 340fps?? really?

I skipped the nexus 6 last year, now again I'm disappointed. Not buying this.
Tapping on the toe with a new hat

dissapointed. but well see on the reviews

Wow really this is it! Was deciding the sell my oneplus two but now after this I'm keeping it!

HTC is announcing new phones tomorrow as well, including a 5" phone with mid-range specs (SD 617 chip) that looks just like an iPhone on the back. pretty sure that phone only has 2GB RAM as well.

droydr said:
HTC is announcing new phones tomorrow as well, including a 5" phone with mid-range specs (SD 617 chip) that looks just like an iPhone on the back. pretty sure that phone only has 2GB RAM as well.
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Do you really want htc sense?

peachpuff said:
Do you really want htc sense?
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no, but just figured i'd mention what else is coming available in the 5" size. of course, you could just unlock, root, and install a custom AOSP rom with HTC.

Hmm...so no snapdragon 820 and QHD display that were rumored.

hexacore. rrriiiight. I think I'll just get this for $140 and call it a day.
http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_234308.html

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you could just unlock, root, and install a custom AOSP rom with HTC.
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That's what i thought when i bought the lg g2, but since lg never released lollipop in my country every lollipop aosp rom had issues. Look at the galaxy s6 forums, no aosp in sight.
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Hmm...so no snapdragon 820 and QHD display that were rumored.
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That wasn't a rumor, it was a pipe dream. SD820 isn't coming out till next year.

peachpuff said:
That's what i thought when i bought the lg g2, but since lg never released lollipop in my country every lollipop aosp rom had issues. Look at the galaxy s6 forums, no aosp in sight.
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there's no AOSP for S6 due to the proprietary processor Samsung uses, it's essentially closed source so developers don't have access and thus really can't bother.

teotop said:
4K, 340fps?? really?
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My eyes popped out looking at that too. Has to be a typo, unfortunately.

2GB ram is kinda retarded... I just cannot undestand why they did this....

I don't understand why the hell everyone wants more than 2 GBs of ram. It's a bloody phone...
I am happy with it. Just miss a 64GB option. And maybe G4's 3000mAh Battery.
Am am sure this will be again a hot seller...

For me, all they needed to do was pretty much an updated version of the original, but this time sort out the camera and battery.
I know many find the specs to be under what's expected. But in a few months time when the 5X is still smooth running the latest M and the S6 owners are still waiting, the 5X may be the smart choice.
Lets see what the reviews say about the Camera & Battery.