Do developers know that Bluetooth 4 (LE) does not work? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
support for energy saving BT 4.0 standard was proudly introduced with Android 4.3 and the S4 supports it hardware-wise.
Unfortunately, as I learned, Android delivers improper BT4-stacks to be able to connect a BT LE- device to the S4 (and others as well).
Third party apps like "BLE Heart Rate Monitor" and others seem to override/correct it (somehow) as they can connect to the BT LE device.
Does any developer think to take a look at this?

body150165 said:
Hello,
support for energy saving BT 4.0 standard was proudly introduced with Android 4.3 and the S4 supports it hardware-wise.
Unfortunately, as I learned, Android delivers improper BT4-stacks to be able to connect a BT LE- device to the S4 (and others as well).
Third party apps like "BLE Heart Rate Monitor" and others seem to override/correct it (somehow) as they can connect to the BT LE device.
Does any developer think to take a look at this?
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This should be posted in general thread or Q&A thread this doesn´t belong here!!!

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This should be posted in general thread or Q&A thread this doesn´t belong here!!!
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I intentionally posted it here, as this is the place where the devs and ROM-Makers show their work.
So, I guess that many/most devs don't know about this as BT4-devices are not so popular yet, but will be.

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Is the IPAQ 910-12-14 manufactured by HTC?

I ask, because seeing this forum, is the first time I've seen that mentioned.
In another forum (not XDA-dev) I saw the manufacturer listed as Inventec.
And in an HP IPAQ forum. someone asked if the HTC mini-USB to 3.5 or 2.5 audio adapters would work on the IPAQ 910. Someone else answered "no", saying that the HTC mini-USB ports are eleven pin, while the one on this IPAQ is ten pin.
If the phone were made by HTC, I would think that they would use the same kind of mini-USB port, as on their other phones.
Is it known for sure, that the IPAQ 910 was manufactured by HTC?
Has anyone here tried one of the mini-USB audio adapters made for HTC, on their IPAQ 910? If so, how well did it work?
HTC chargers seem to work.
Thanks for your feedback.
no it is not made by HTC.
for audio adapter , see here
keyx said:
no it is not made by HTC.
for audio adapter , see here
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Why is it listed here then, under "Other HTC manufactured phones-Sable"?
So, do you agree with those who say that the mini-USB audio adapters made for HTC phones, will not work well with the IPAQ 910?
It's OK to use the same chargers and sync cables though, no? They seem to work--I hope not harming the phone in some way.
because we don't have other better place to meet & group the threads together haha, so people just just post here for any HP IPAQ i suppose
anyway adapter made for HTC won't work on 91x because the pin-layout is different for audio.
It is ok to use the same cable for charge and sync because the charge and data transfer is a common standard in mini-usb. No audio is defined in the standard so manufacturer define their own-standard
Thanks for the info.
It is weird then, that manufacturers make their own proprietary headphone port, and then do not even make an adapter for it.
Shame on HP for doing so! (At least HTC makes an adapter for theirs, including one that has another mini-USB for charging, and a 2.5 and 3.5 headphone ports.)
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Ha Ha. So the "HTC Sable" is a non-existent phone, an imaginary HTC phone, to list non-HTC phones under, so that the board admins don't know that people are discussing a (GASP!) non-HTC phone on their HTC-only board?
Oops, I hope they don't read this thread!
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By the way, Keyx, since you seem to be very technically knowledgeable, if you have a chance, please take a look at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3619813&posted=1#post3619813
and let me know, if you have any insight into the question.
If I had known about this board, I might have posted it here. Not knowing, I posted it in the general WinMo board.
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HTC Sable exist and made by HTC, it is one of the older IPAQ model, i forgot the model number though
EDITED: look at the text under the main title of this subforum: Also known as HP iPAQ hw69xx (hw6915 / hw6925 / hw6945 / hw6965 / hw6910 / hw6920 / hw6940)
Traditionally a few IPAQ were made by HTC but not 61x/91x this time
I don't have a data plan now so can't really look into DUN issue..may be a few weeks after i can,definitely not now though
keyx said:
because we don't have other better place to meet & group the threads together haha, so people just just post here for any HP IPAQ i suppose
anyway adapter made for HTC won't work on 91x because the pin-layout is different for audio.
It is ok to use the same cable for charge and sync because the charge and data transfer is a common standard in mini-usb. No audio is defined in the standard so manufacturer define their own-standard
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As I mentioned already some time ago, there is a better place. Setup specially for ipaq 614/914 etc .... And ppl waiting to get news
Look here
Dirk
dirlan2001 said:
As I mentioned already some time ago, there is a better place. Setup specially for ipaq 614/914 etc .... And ppl waiting to get news
Look here
Dirk
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There is an IPAQ 910/912/914 forum there now, but zero posts there yet. I guess people are reluctant to post, if they think no one will read and respond there.
Someone has to start posting there........
I used to work on the HTC Juno (T-Mobile Shadow) in the Smartphone General section of xda-developers, and after a year or so they finally gave us our own sub-forum. They may eventually do the same here. You're right that there's a bit of an HTC-only vibe with the way the forum is organized, but certainly I've seen Toshiba and Samsung-manufacturered device ROMs around here too.
The benefits of staying with xda-developers are clear: we use the same tools and methods that are used for HTC devices. Not to mention that despite the new iPAQs having a different manufacturer, they share much of the same kinds of underlying hardware (i.e. Qualcomm chipset, ARM processor). Those who own an HP 61x or a 91x are likely to have owned an HTC device in the past and may own an HTC device in the future. It is nice for us to stay with the same community
The big irony, of course, is that we've seen far more progress on xda-developers for the 61x and the 91x than we have for the (older and uglier) iPAQ h6300, which was actually made by HTC. Just ask brewhoxs - he'll tell you all about how there's no custom ROM developed for that device at all
Maybe rather than jumping to other forums we should put the pressure on xda-devs moderators to give us a sub-forum of our own.
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I used to work on the HTC Juno (T-Mobile Shadow) in the Smartphone General section of xda-developers, and after a year or so they finally gave us our own sub-forum. They may eventually do the same here. You're right that there's a bit of an HTC-only vibe with the way the forum is organized, but certainly I've seen Toshiba and Samsung-manufacturered device ROMs around here too.
The benefits of staying with xda-developers are clear: we use the same tools and methods that are used for HTC devices. Not to mention that despite the new iPAQs having a different manufacturer, they share much of the same kinds of underlying hardware (i.e. Qualcomm chipset, ARM processor). Those who own an HP 61x or a 91x are likely to have owned an HTC device in the past and may own an HTC device in the future. It is nice for us to stay with the same community
The big irony, of course, is that we've seen far more progress on xda-developers for the 61x and the 91x than we have for the (older and uglier) iPAQ h6300, which was actually made by HTC. Just ask brewhoxs - he'll tell you all about how there's no custom ROM developed for that device at all
Maybe rather than jumping to other forums we should put the pressure on xda-devs moderators to give us a sub-forum of our own.
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Well that's the problem .. the guys at WinMoDev made an agreement with XDA to keep out each others fishingpond. XDA for HTC-phones and WinMoDev for other. Although I must agree I haven't seen much life on WinMo, the forum being many times down for some reason.
So wether we keep 'hiding' in the Sable-forum, or move over depends on the posters and on the readers, of course.
Just my 2c
Dirk
dirlan2001 said:
Well that's the problem .. the guys at WinMoDev made an agreement with XDA to keep out each others fishingpond. XDA for HTC-phones and WinMoDev for other. Although I must agree I haven't seen much life on WinMo, the forum being many times down for some reason.
So wether we keep 'hiding' in the Sable-forum, or move over depends on the posters and on the readers, of course.
Just my 2c
Dirk
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Really? This is the first I've heard of such a mutual no-compete agreement between the voluntary operators of two free forums.
Interesting. Not to toot anyone's horn, but we'd probably get a successful one-shot transition if keyx, sergiorus, ke_steve_le, Montecristo and myself all moved at the same time.
And maybe we should? Except winmodevelopers.co.cc says they are moving to new phpbb forums that will be at winmodevs.com. Plus when I visit the existing site it tries to install an unknown ActiveX control. Not cool!
Haha we should shop around wmexperts.com and ppcgeeks.com for competing trade offers
benjaminries said:
Really? This is the first I've heard of such a mutual no-compete agreement between the voluntary operators of two free forums.
Interesting. Not to toot anyone's horn, but we'd probably get a successful one-shot transition if keyx, sergiorus, ke_steve_le, Montecristo and myself all moved at the same time.
And maybe we should? Except winmodevelopers.co.cc says they are moving to new phpbb forums that will be at winmodevs.com. Plus when I visit the existing site it tries to install an unknown ActiveX control. Not cool!
Haha we should shop around wmexperts.com and ppcgeeks.com for competing trade offers
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Hi,
Here's the topic in which Jay mentionned it ... The forum is still on the original *.forumer.com, so indeed rather confusing.
I use Firefox, no ActiveX seen or heared
Dirk
hey guys
im sorry to see you have had isues with the forum
at one point there was a very confusing time as we were gonna move to another brand of forum but that fell through, as for the downtime that was due to us perfecting the forum
one change that was implemented though as we have taken away all of the device forums this was mainly due to fatc that more and more device makers are bringing out winmo phones this makes it very hard for me and the other admins to keep track of
also we needed a place for non htc android devices to go
HOWEVER
the forum is up and running if you fancy moving there now
http://winmodevs.com
all the non htc devices are still welcome
also just to note the only reason there isnt a lot of posts is because if people dont se others helpoing they wont post so basically i need you devvers to get all you stuff moved over and theyll be a who load of new posters

Samsung Moment forum needed

Within the past week I migrated from the ROM-crazy Touch Pro to a Samsung Moment, and I'm disappointed to find that while XDA has a thriving Android community, there's barely a mention of the Moment. This is perplexing, as the Moment seems to be a very strong device.
I have found the SDX website and appreciate the good work going on over there, but it's a pretty small (though talented!) community. I would expect the Moment to gain more of a following if it were to get more exposure. Is there a reason XDA does not have a forum for this device? How would one go about requesting a new forum?
being a Moment and a CDMA Hero User i was wondering the same thing. :\
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Within the past week I migrated from the ROM-crazy Touch Pro to a Samsung Moment, and I'm disappointed to find that while XDA has a thriving Android community, there's barely a mention of the Moment. This is perplexing, as the Moment seems to be a very strong device.
I have found the SDX website and appreciate the good work going on over there, but it's a pretty small (though talented!) community. I would expect the Moment to gain more of a following if it were to get more exposure. Is there a reason XDA does not have a forum for this device? How would one go about requesting a new forum?
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This is a HTC device forum so no wonder the SAMSUNG Moment doesn't have its own forum. You can post things about the Moment in the Android Software Development section though.
I considered that, but then I noticed the Samsung Omnia and various Palm, Toshiba, and LG devices had XDA forums.
rattlez33 said:
I considered that, but then I noticed the Samsung Omnia and various Palm, Toshiba, and LG devices had XDA forums.
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No love for the Moment And I have one too
Reason would be because the XDA dev's would be pretty worthless (not an attack on them, just a statement of the following fact) at modifying and developing specific for the samsung moment. It utilizies different hardware and software that isn't found on any other android device (bits and pieces are found on other samsung devices only)... For example, the samsung moment utilizes a ONEnand chip and RFS (a samsung propritary) file system...
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I considered that, but then I noticed the Samsung Omnia and various Palm, Toshiba, and LG devices had XDA forums.
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I heard a mod said that those devices parts were made by htc and the phone was put together by htc. kinda like the nexus one thing.
Samsung Mobile and Sprint announced today that the Samsung Moment has been selected as the first phone to showcase a demonstration of a Mobile Digital TV chip.
Samsung and its Moment may not be mainstream like Motorola but I like the Moment and can't wait for the 2.1 update coming in late March or April. Should make it a better device with the improvements. At least that's the theory...
there is a forum for moment. i had it in my bookmarks but i had to do a reinstall on my comp so im searching for it again atm cuz i didnt save bookmarks.
Sadly the admins don't have time to read every thread in this forum... so it might be a better idea mentioning this in the following thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616206
This is monitored by the admins.
Dave
Indeed.. I already posted a request for the Galaxy(S) and the Spica in the request forum. If you want others, just go post your demand in following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616206
There is already a forum for Samsung (Android) devices.
Most Samsung users go to the SDX forum as XDA is an HTC Dev forum. I'd recommend checking there, first, as they have done A LOT in the way of development/modding/hacking/theming for the Moment.
The structure of the information provided in the guides can be a little hard to follow at first, but the guides are rather good. ROM/Update flashing is (often too) simple and the rooting process is automated in update.zip format, now.
Link: hxxp://sdx-developers.com
Personally, as a Moment user, I utilize both XDA and SDX, as great info can be found in both forums.
grayn0de said:
Personally, as a Moment user, I utilize both XDA and SDX, as great info can be found in both forums.
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Same here.

Custom Roms and Bluetooth PAN

Is there a custom Rom or custom patch that will allow the A500 to utilize the DUN/PAN bluetooth profile? I really like this tab, but I am very disappointed that it does not support this like my Galaxy tab does.
Wrong forum.
Sorry I posted here since I thought it was development related.
Moving to General.
PS: Every Q? thread should be posted in General.

Tell Samsung to include Camera 2 in its Lollipop update

Not sure if this type of thing is permitted, but here goes.
I've posted a note to Samsung on my blog to try and get them to include support for the new Camera 2 API in the Lollipop update for, at least, the Note 4 and S5. Sharing on FB, Twitter and tagging Samsung is the easiest way to try to get them to hear users.
An Open Letter to Samsung
It is too late for the S5 as updates have already been release...same thing for the Note 4. I didn't fully look at your letter, but perhaps state for future updates because the current is already done.
I don't have my Lollipop update yet. Regardless of whether it's the first update to Android 5 or subsequent is irrelevant. The point is that Samsung should support the Camera 2 API.
There are companies that do listen to their customers. And it's not unheard of for a company to change direction if enough of its customers express a desire for (or against) something.
I have seen it posted in the International Forum that "it's there but switched off". I'm sure we will see it in a future update.
I dont get all the negativity. If you don't want to help, don't reply and move on.
KingBeef said:
I have seen it posted in the International Forum that "it's there but switched off". I'm sure we will see it in a future update.
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It's not there because Samsung doesn't use camera2 api. They made their own because Google still sucks at it.
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To all in this thread, post respectfully... Or Do Not Post.......easy
To the OP, Trying to use the camera2 is not as easy as it sounds, Remember, updates also need to be downwardly compatible, that makes enacting something much harder, or buggier.
So, couple that with then having all supporting app devs to adjust or modify their apps to work with it...... just not as simple as releasing a new feature or update.....
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Gaming on Android Head Unit...Any controllers working?

Hello All,
I recently installed a test game console emulator to see if it would work on my android head unit. Gladly, the emulator works and seems to operate at full speed. However, I tried to use my wireless xbox 360 controller and wireless receiver but it seems the system does not recognize it. I also tried using the xbox one bluetooth controller, but the system did not detect the controller via bluetooth. I then tried to install the wiimote but the wiimote controller app crashes once it detects the wiimote. Their website says they do not support android 4.2 and above yet.
Has anyone been interested in gaming on their android head unit and if so, have you tried using a variety of controllers? What has worked, and what hasn't?
I'm not too sure about what my android system's name is...it came in a generic white box. But I've posted pictures of the unit and information if that helps.
Thanks,
Scott
Gen Game New S3 is android 4.0+ I got it with my vr headset and use it with my firestick mostly, but it is legit straight across xbox similar. I have not tested it on a head unit but it's shown to be versatile thus far. You may need to get a bluetooth usb dongle but I doubt it.
USB dongle. Didn't think if that. Great idea! Thanks!
did the usb dongle work? mine didnt.
Note for others searching, contemplating posting - this thread is not Android Auto.
Also consider reviving a 3 year old post.
marchnz said:
Note for others searching, contemplating posting - this thread is not Android Auto.
Also consider reviving a 3 year old post.
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have you seen this issue addressed in these forums? been searching for weeks. and yes, we have an android tesla style head unit. we could open new threads, but i feel for continuity purposes and to help out those searching some closure here is warranted.
inee said:
have you seen this issue addressed in these forums? been searching for weeks. and yes, we have an android tesla style head unit. we could open new threads, but i feel for continuity purposes and to help out those searching some closure here is warranted.
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insulting people in forums is sooo 2000s. no the point did not go over my head. but if youre going to contribute to bumping this old thread, why not make yourself useful and post something helpful?
inee said:
why not make yourself useful and post something helpful?
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Since you still haven't figured it out, here's some helpful advice - you have a better chance of getting a useful response if you learn how to post in the correct forum.
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mike.s said:
Since you still haven't figured it out, here's some helpful advice - you have a better chance of getting a useful response if you learn how to post in the correct forum.
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well aware of that, but see that was immensely more helpful than your other post. suggest having the mods then move this to the correct area; going back to my earlier post about continuity. people who google will be drawn here, and not necessarily to my new post so it would probably be more efficient to move than post.
edit: actually, i DID post in a similar thread in the head unit section. so theres actually two threads about this. but i still suggest moving this.
If after reading the forums as you said, you would have found that it is not possible due to the hacky BT on these copycat devices
Also, if you wanted the thread moved, report it. I have.
Thread moved.
Also note numerous posts on why other BT devices, do not work on these hacked Chinese head units.
not sure “it is not possible” is a fact; or more likely improbable. there is a youtube video of an nvidia controller working on bt. i wanted to see if an xbox one controller works which i already own, instead of buying another controller.
Is anyone else having the issue that their controller buttons are binded to head unit controls from factory? I'm trying to play emulated games and the buttons do things like close the app, open the radio app, dim screen, etc etc

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