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Corning Supplies Gorilla® Glass for Samsung Galaxy S Premium Smartphone
Evolution of Smartphones Led by Cutting-edge Display Technologies
SEOUL, South Korea--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Corning Incorporated (NYSE: GLW), a world leader in specialty glass and ceramics, announced today that Corning® Gorilla® glass has been designed into the Samsung Electronics Galaxy S, a newly released premium smartphone.
“Advanced display technology plays a crucial role in meeting consumers’ growing expectations on high-end mobile devices, especially smartphones. Corning’s Gorilla glass has helped maximize Galaxy S’s unique smartphone features by enabling a high-quality touch display.”
The Samsung Galaxy S features a four-inch super AMOLED display, while weighing roughly 119 grams in a slim, highly durable design. The enhanced super AMOLED display is enabled in part by using Corning Gorilla glass as the protective cover. Gorilla glass is an environmentally friendly alkali-aluminosilicate thin sheet glass that is both scratch resistant and durable.
BJ Kang, senior manager of Samsung Electronics said, “Advanced display technology plays a crucial role in meeting consumers’ growing expectations on high-end mobile devices, especially smartphones. Corning’s Gorilla glass has helped maximize Galaxy S’s unique smartphone features by enabling a high-quality touch display.”
Haeng Hee Lee, president of Corning Korea Company Ltd added, “Device makers are challenged with designing stylish yet durable products. The Galaxy S is a fine example of a premium device created through the combination of Corning’s specialty glass and Samsung’s mobile display technologies. Corning’s Gorilla glass enables device makers to introduce durable display products with innovative designs.”
More than 20 major makers of PC and handheld devices have already recognized the benefits of Gorilla glass by designing it into more than 225 devices, and more than 55 models will be released over the next six months.
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About Corning Incorporated
Corning Incorporated (www.corning.com) is the world leader in specialty glass and ceramics. Drawing on more than 150 years of materials science and process engineering knowledge, Corning creates and makes keystone components that enable high-technology systems for consumer electronics, mobile emissions control, telecommunications and life sciences. Our products include glass substrates for LCD televisions, computer monitors and laptops; ceramic substrates and filters for mobile emission control systems; optical fiber, cable, hardware & equipment for telecommunications networks; optical biosensors for drug discovery; and other advanced optics and specialty glass solutions for a number of industries including semiconductor, aerospace, defense, astronomy and metrology.
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ConceptVBS said:
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Great story, but I've seen scratch tests that seem to indicate otherwise. Also, I'm surprised that they didn't announce this earlier. I lean 80% towards this being true, but not everything is adding up to me.
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Great story, but I've seen scratch tests that seem to indicate otherwise. Also, I'm surprised that they didn't announce this earlier. I lean 80% towards this being true, but not everything is adding up to me.
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Its a official press release so its true.... And even diamond can be scratched
Well, I was judging these relatively versus what I've seen from GG. Again, I'm just saying that not everything adding up. Keep in mind, there are maybe 6+ models and variations, perhaps we shouldn't look further into this than it being only the I9000 without further information. After all, the US carriers did gimp phones to save themselves some money whether on the front-end (storage) or back-end (tethering/ff camera).
Also, this could've been adopted late in the development cycle so the test I watched could've been using a previously spec'd screen (I think this is the least likely). It's not like Corning or a manufacturer to announce this late. They announced this on the Streak nearly a year before it hit the US, and at least 6 months before it hit EU. This is typically a big step up for a manufacturer and a good way for Corning to get themselves recognized and desired by consumers, meaning it's good marketing for them as well. No one loves GG more than the Engadgets & GSM Arena (leap of faith there), so at least getting bonus points from them when one of the "knocks" on the Galaxy S is the industrial design. Gorilla Glass plus plastic means the screen is as strong as can be and the casing can be replaced in case the phone took a brutal fall.
So, am I saying that this is false, no, I believe the story, I just take it with a grain of salt saying that unless they confirm it on the entire family line there might be something else hidden in the details (that's where they say the devil is, )...I'm probably just looking too far into this though. ...I'm just saying is all...
Still doesn't excuse Samsung for the poor design on the international version. By that I mean having the glass go all the way down and having it cut out for the home button making it a very weak point for cracking.
All reports I've read about SGS being cracked have been down there. Same happened to mine and the shock it got was so minor I didn't even realize or think the screen would get damaged. So those with that version of the SGS be careful.
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Schmich said:
Still doesn't excuse Samsung for the poor design on the international version. By that I mean having the glass go all the way down and having it cut out for the home button making it a very weak point for cracking.
All reports I've read about SGS being cracked have been down there. Same happened to mine and the shock it got was so minor I didn't even realize or think the screen would get damaged. So those with that version of the SGS be careful.
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There are plenty of people whose glass hasn't cracked. Remember, Samsung have sold millions of these phones, and given enough people in a forum, many people will have the same problem. I don't think this is an inexcusable mistake, or poor design. There is a border protecting the glass (which seems to be made of metal), and it's tough glass.
It isn't designed as a rugged phone, and how common is this issue?
Just watch this video and see how fragile this device is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68
If you drop it during a conversation, say bye bye to this "gorilla glass".
Fatherboard said:
Just watch this video and see how fragile this device is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68
If you drop it during a conversation, say bye bye to this "gorilla glass".
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Are u kidding? Fragile? Looks like u didnt see the whole video.
no, it looks like you haven't...
Fatherboard said:
Just watch this video and see how fragile this device is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68
If you drop it during a conversation, say bye bye to this "gorilla glass".
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This isn't even worth debating. http://gizmodo.com/5571658/first-iphone-4-broken-after-one+foot-drop
You'd have to be an idiot to buy any smart phone if you are concerned about dropping it. The main benefit of Gorilla glass isn't protection (although, clearly it needs to handle everyday life), but to offer protection against scratches.. You wont have any problems if you don't drop it..
This has the tendency to happen. you guys are idiots if you think you bought a bulletproof device.
Haven't you ever dropped a cellphone during a conversation?... that's odd. I might have to replace my palms, then.
Err i think you might be the idiot mate, first you say its fragile and supply a link showing that the glass is actually quite strong (for a mobile) and then you say its no different to any other phone.
I work on a building site and i have no fears of damaging my screen although you would have to be a bit of a moron to have a phone like this and not put protection
it anyway
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omg, no wonder you're working at a building site.
Fatherboard said:
This has the tendency to happen. you guys are idiots if you think you bought a bulletproof device.
Haven't you ever dropped a cellphone during a conversation?... that's odd. I might have to replace my palms, then.
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Disregard my comment, I misinterpreted your statement. Yes, I do agree it isn't unbreakable. The purpose of gorilla glass is mainly to withstand basic knocks, and scratches, not to be immune against scratches. It isn't designed to withstand drops.
Gorilla glass or not, I already have 2 little scratches..
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leoon said:
Gorilla glass or not, I already have 2 little scratches..
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I got 0 But it say's nothing, maybe if it was normal glass you would have 10 scratches, no one knows!
newsflash: Glass tends to scratch/break when recieving shock.
Doesn't matter in what device, if you drop it from ear-hight, it will crack. At least a bit.
I have to say i'm impressed such a hard glass plain didn't shatter even when falling from waist hight.
What about the glass that is covering the camera on the back? Any info about that? I put silicone on my SGS and still after some time I can see little tiny scraches on the glass cover.
It is quite funny in the beginning how the Iphone fan boy use to boast on the quality of Iphone that Iphone glasses are gorilla glass and samsung is not glass but plastics.
Now as more information are becoming available how the table have turned. I guess that will shut iphone fan boys up for a while.
What doesn't make sense is that why it takes so long for them to make the announcement when clearly, it could have boosted the sales.
Yea ill leave my zagg screen protector on ... knowing my luck the day i take the screen protector off. The bus or train im in will get into an accident and my phone will magically fly out of my pocket and land face first on a a screw on the ground.
Here's something to think about. The One's casing is indeed 100% aluminum. In every previous attempt by a manufacturer to use an all-aluminum housing the result was disastrous for wireless reception. That includes antenna-gate on the Sensation which only had a partial aluminum body. Looking at the casing HTC's either going to try to get a signal through it or the antennas will have to be forward facing to get through the glass front panel. Neither is a recipe for great and/or consistent wireless reception. It'll be interesting to see how the One does once it's tested by sites like GSMArena and Anandtech.
First of all..I still don't get the "all aluminium construction" as from some pictures the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
Other than that:
His focus on the all-metal attributes is a direct shot at the iPhone 5, which similarly uses aluminum but has a top and bottom row on the back that's constructed of glass, enabling the antenna inside to broadcast and receive signals. The HTC One, however, worked around that by building the antenna into the metal back of the phone, allowing for a more seamless looking device.
While the back of the phone is part of the antenna, Croyle doesn't foresee any reception issues like the iPhone 4, which used the metal frame around the phone as its antenna, causing some signal issues when held the wrong way. Croyle promised there wouldn't be an "antennagate" with the One.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ke-good-first-impression-with-all-metal-body/
Its mentioned a hundred times on this forum how the antenna is integrated into this phone. The back has strips for it... look at the pictures...
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Eggcake said:
First of all..I still don't get the "all aluminium construction" as from some pictures the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
Other than that:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ke-good-first-impression-with-all-metal-body/
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HTC says that the white strips on the sides are in fact metal.
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First of all..I still don't get the "all aluminium construction" as from some pictures the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ke-good-first-impression-with-all-metal-body/
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It's no plastic @ the side its all metal....its just metal in a different colour...if u take out all components u are left full metal case so I don't see where the plastic is from
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Eggcake said:
the sides are clearly NOT metal but plastic.
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Guess again.
HTC also makes a big deal about the One's all-aluminum chassis, describing it as using a zero-gap unibody design. Indeed, available in hues of black and silver, the handset feels sturdy, has reassuring heft, and its smooth metallic skin exudes high-end craftsmanship. HTC also took pains to point out that while the thin white trim encircling the silver model I manhandled appears to be plastic, it is in fact metal.
The iPhone 5 needed a lot of glass and the iPad needs the plastic Apple logo for the WiFi and those black plastic strips for the 3g versions. The HTC fans better hope that they need less plastic than Apple or they will have an Asus Transformer prime fiasco here.
The fans better hope that HTC has thoroughly tested this thing from a basement, between two skyscrapers, to a boat, to the top of the mountain, in car, on a helicopter etc. Judging from HTC craftsmanship from the past though, especially button ergonomics, good luck HTC fans.
Oh alright, that's news for me. Very good news in fact
guess they learned what to fix after the fiasco on the one x
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The HTC fans better hope that they need less plastic than Apple or they will have an Asus Transformer prime fiasco here.
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That's exactly what I thought of when it was announced the One's housing was all-aluminum. Here's what Anand said about the Prime's signal issues which Asus corrected in the Infinity by adding a plastic strip along the back where the antennas are. Wi-Fi limped along on the Prime but GPS was so FUBAR because of the all metal-back Asus ended up giving owners a detachable external dongle in order to use GPS at all.
There is no RF window on the back of the Prime where the two antennas are located. Aluminum does a fairly good job of attenuating RF signals, which contributes to worse range on WiFi than the original plastic Eee Pad Transformer. WiFi performance at the edge of reception as well as the maximum usable WiFi range are both noticeably lower than its predecessor.
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guess they learned what to fix after the fiasco on the one x
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The One X Wi-Fi issue was caused by connectors not meeting properly during the production process. HTC can't defy the laws of physics which say metal and wireless signals aren't compatible. In the Prime scenario Tomatoes8 mentioned Asus added a second antenna and used diversity as a means of getting a signal through the metal back cover. They also amped the signal up to the point it interfered with BT which uses the same 2.4GHz frequency. The challenge is even greater using metal on a phone because there's less physical space to work with in terms of antenna size, placement, and interference with other components.
For HTC and fans of their devices sake I hope this isn't an issue. But if they succeed in using an all-metal housing and still maintain competitive wireless performance they'll be the first to do so where there’s a history of others failing.
Just another quote/info from Anandtech:
Plastic is injected into the aluminum block after certain cuts are made for the back case, which then gets machined into the final form. The One uses the top and bottom aluminum strips for antennas, both of which are actively tuned to mitigate unintended attenuation from being held. There’s a plastic insulative strip in-between the two antennas and the main body. In spite of being aluminum, the One also includes NFC, whose active area surrounds the camera region. There’s no wireless charging from Qi or WPC, however.
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But yeah, let's hope they really tested it...it would be a fiasco otherwise.
maybe u can use the garanty?
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Just another quote/info from Anandtech.
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Great info. But one has to wonder with an R&D budget larger than HTC's capitalization why Apple wouldn't have figured the same thing out and avoided the issues they faced when they took the Apple logo off the back of the iPad and moved the antenna under the perforated speaker grate and had to use a plastic trim strip over the antenna on the 3G/GPS version. The only real pass/fail test will be when there are One's in people's hands for a couple of months. It took almost three months (launched in March, issue identified in June) for users to figure out the commonality in the One X's wireless issue. Kudos to HTC if they've figured out how to design a metal device with decent wireless performance where others haven't been able to.
I've put together a Google forms survey to collect some objective breakage data: Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey
Please take some time to complete the survey one time whether you've experienced a breakage or not, it's important to have a complete set of data. You will be able to view the survey results after submitting the form.
Please take the survey a 2nd time ONLY if you have previously completed it to report no damage but now have a damaged screen or back glass and wish to report it. Make sure to properly check Question 2 to indicate a re-take.
Direct link to results summary, just in case you want to check back later: Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey Responses
Direct link to results spreadsheet: Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey Responses (Spreadsheet)
cschmitt said:
I've put together a Google forms survey to collect some objective breakage data: Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey
Please take some time to complete the survey one time whether you've experienced a breakage or not, it's important to have a complete set of data. You will be able to view the survey results after submitting the form.
Direct link to results summary, just in case you want to check back later: Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey Responses
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Just filled it in.
Though it would've been useful to include some additional questions, such as the manufacturing week and year, and the part of the serial number that indicates the manufacturing batch.
degraaff said:
Though it would've been useful to include some additional questions, such as the manufacturing week and year, and the part of the serial number that indicates the manufacturing batch..
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Do you know the exact details on how to determine week/year/batch from S/N? I can add those questions, but I don't want to collect S/N's outright.
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Do you know the exact details on how to determine week/year/batch from S/N? I can add those questions, but I don't want to collect S/N's outright.
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Behind the SIM flap is a plastic information sheet that can be pulled out. The production week and year, for example, are indicated by something like "14W38" (that's what's on mine) which means that my unit was manufactured in the 38th week of 2014. I'm not sure about the serial number though. I just looked and there's no immediate "S/N" indication. However there is a big number after the "CE" sign, for me it says "CE 0682". Maybe that is the number of the production batch?
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Behind the SIM flap ...
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Added year / week and your description of how to find it on info sheet. Reminds me of busting open a fortune cookie.
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Reminds me of busting open a fortune cookie.
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Yes it kind of does feel like that.
My two cents
Very informative, thank you.
Just know, if you go looking for something, you can find it.
This phone is still new, so for anyone thinking of getting it, don't let the mass post on glass cracks and drm / camera conversation put you off. This phone is big in the game.
At the time of posting, its a resounding majority "No" to broken glass (small sample)
One day into the survey and we have 51 responses. I find the most interesting data to be that 65% do not use a screen protector and 73% do not use a case.
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One day into the survey and we have 51 responses. I find the most interesting data to be that 65% do not use a screen protector and 73% do not use a case.
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Confirmed! Sony Xperia Z3C users aren't the smartest around! :silly:
What's the percentage of cracked screens?
Dsteppa said:
What's the percentage of cracked screens?
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The sample size is still small, but 6% for front glass, 9% for back glass.
There is one response where both front and back glass cracked.
In all cases no screen protector or case was in use, with the exception of one cracked back glass while using a TPU case.
There's a link to results in the OP.
It would be nice to get several hundred responses for a more accurate picture.
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It would be nice to get several hundred responses for a more accurate picture.
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Oh yeah, I know don't worry. Just wanted to know the percentage we're at now
Percentages are pretty much useless here because naturally, mainly people with issues come and participate here in the first place. Only Sony or some kind of independent media could give a clue on those percentages.
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It would be nice to get several hundred responses for a more accurate picture.
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But even then there will be a selection bias - people with glass issues are more likely to find this thread than people who are perfectly happy.
jasestu said:
But even then there will be a selection bias - people with glass issues are more likely to find this thread than people who are perfectly happy.
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Exactly.
Edit: but even if only those with glass issues report at least that does give some idea of the number of users affected.
On the Sony Mobile support forum, there is a post from a person whose Z3C's glass cracked while the phone was laying on a table and playing music. Since I did notice that especially the rear glass vibrates very heavily at higher volumes, I'm wondering if those vibrations could induce cracking in some cases?
How could you think that simply the vibrations generated by the (however minuscule) speakers could crack a sheet of glass, let alone Gorilla/Dragontrail glass? Just check some stress tests to see what kind of forces these types of glass can withstand.
The same strange reports about glass cracking on its own appeared for the LG Optimus G and LG Nexus 4 right after launch and then nothing.
Inginerul said:
How could you think that simply the vibrations generated by the (however minuscule) speakers could crack a sheet of glass, let alone Gorilla/Dragontrail glass? Just check some stress tests to see what kind of forces these types of glass can withstand.
The same strange reports about glass cracking on its own appeared for the LG Optimus G and LG Nexus 4 right after launch and then nothing.
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The rear is not Gorilla Glass nor Dragontrail.
The glass sheets in said stress test videos are usually much thicker than those used on phones.
Strong vibrations can cause a sheet of glass to crack, especially if the glass has a production fault.
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The rear is not Gorilla Glass nor Dragontrail.
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What kind of glass do they put on the back, then?
degraaff said:
The glass sheets in said stress test videos are usually much thicker than those used on phones.
Strong vibrations can cause a sheet of glass to crack, especially if the glass has a production fault.
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The vibrations generated by the very small speakers are not exactly what I would call "strong", much less glass-cracking strong!
Inginerul said:
What kind of glass do they put on the back, then?
The vibrations generated by the very small speakers are not exactly what I would call "strong", much less glass-cracking strong!
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http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ss-is-on-Xperia-Z3-Compact/m-p/838791#U838791
There is no doubt that the rear uses different glass than the front, since the rear is way more prone to scratching than the front.
The vibrations at high volume are pretty strong in this phone, don't forget you've got two of those speakers. In case of (like I said) faulty glass, they may even be harmful to the glass.
dropped z3c on cement and.....
.....no damage. I watched my 1 day old z3c slide off a laundry pile in my basement onto the cement floor (about 5 foot drop) and no cracks or noticable damage.
However, i just took my xperia z2 out of its protective case to sell it and noticed a crack all the way across the back glass. Ive never dropped that phone and its always been in a high quality case. Im thinking the z2 may uave cracked trying to pry it out of the protective case (which fit very tight).
Just my two cents.
Has any one found a bumper case for the yotphone 2 yet
some retailers including yota are providing them free with handset
yota customer services wont stipulate where from but just keep watching for any news. internet search doesnt show any one yet providing them . would be usefull!!!!
I got mine as part of a promotion for orders during most of January. As you say, some retailers are selling them along with the handset. Have you tried asking the facebook page? They seem pretty good with answering questions.
sorry but no face book or any other social network member, guess i will have to wait for yota or someone to enlighten me
Fair enough. Sorry then dude, hope they start being sold separately eventually for you.
Just thought would mention that the bumper is for sale on the yota website now. It may have been a while but just a heads up for those still looking for one.
yotaphone 2 bumper case
finally now available on line via the buy now / store @ about £12
kam1962 said:
finally now available on line via the buy now / store @ about £12
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I can remember in a video yota showed different colours of bumper case but on their site shows only black.
Has anyone bought the aluminium bumper case?
adamo86 said:
Has anyone bought the aluminium bumper case?
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I Bought an aluminium one on eBay. Short review and some pics:
- fit is OK, no slack
- finish looks OK, mine is matte black
- protrudes a bit to the front and the back (so the device does not lie on the glass when put down on a perfectly flat surface)
- edges are quite sharp, might leave marks on the case in due time. bumper has some soft tape on the inside, but that doesn't cover the sharp edges. The hole in the bottom for USB and microphone has these sharp edges too, not comfortable as I usually support the phone with my pinky there.
- adds about 2mm in width and 3mm in length to the phone. (7.2 x 14.8 cm with bumper, 7 x 14.5 cm without). Not too bad, but you can feel the difference initially.
- buttons can be operated OK, although power button does not stick out that much.
- small clasp in the corner
All in all not bad for a couple of dollars. I don't own the bumper as sold by Yota Devices, so I can't compare it.
Hopefully it will absorb some impact when falling on the floor too, but I will leave that part to someone else to review.
edit 1: some additions after 2 weeks of use:
- There seems to be some impact on reception. In an area with low signal strength, the bumper seems to cause the connection to become unstable/drop. Removing the bumper restores the connection. In good reception areas it's harder to note the impact.
- The sharp edges at the bottom are annoying me, I'll have to smooth them out, or lose the bumper.
- No scratches (yet) on the phone though from the bumper
edit 2: Don't know how I missed this earlier, but GPS reception is heavily impacted by this bumper
I went for a run yesterday, and my Endomondo app could not get a good lock. The map only showed approximate location, but it wouldn't start recording my run based on that. After 15 minutes still no lock, until I thought of the bumper. Removed it, and got a solid lock after 3 seconds...
Will the phone get scratches after use. Or r the ruff edges away from The device
adamo86 said:
Will the phone get scratches after use. Or r the ruff edges away from The device
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I've only received it today, so can't comment on long-term use, but the sharp edges are on the inside as well. The little review above is mainly positive in the price/value department, the Yota Devices bumper might be higher quality.
Someone care to review the Yota bumper here?
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I've only received it today, so can't comment on long-term use, but the sharp edges are on the inside as well. The little review above is mainly positive in the price/value department, the Yota Devices bumper might be higher quality.
Someone care to review the Yota bumper here?
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I have a bumper case which came with the device but I don't know if it's from yotaphone. The bumper feels like silicone to me may be it's gel. I prefer gel cases. It feels flimsy.
I have the rubber bumper from yota itself, nice thing.
happy with it for 15usd
Yota Bumper
My "official" Yota Phone bumper arrived, here's a short review:
Material:
Not sure what the material is called, but it's like a matte rubber, but less flexible than rubber, thougher. It's somewhat grippy, but not too much. Doesn't feel like gel or silicone to me.
Dimensions:
It adds 2 mm in width, and 3 mm in length to the phone (just like the aluminium one). It fits nicely, altough the sides are slightly 'floppy', you can stretch it away from the phone easily. I can imagine that only getting slighty worse, not better over time.
features:
The bumper does not have 'real' plastic or metal buttons, buttons are just molded into the rubber. The back side has a thicker rim than the front.
Comparison with the aluminium one:
I have to say the cheap aluminium case looks slightly more classy to me, a bit more svelte, with nice paint & real buttons. It does have a small buckle, which some may find distracting.
The rubbery Yota one looks a bit more ordinary, less luxurious, to my taste. However the aluminium one does have practical drawbacks: sharp edges (especially annoying on the bottom opening), impact on reception (both mobile and particularly GPS, see below), and it might scratch the device at some time, although I haven't seen that in a few weeks of use.
The metal one takes a bit more care to put on, to prevent scratches, the rubber Yota one slips on in a second.
BTW: I updated the aluminium bumper review to mention poor GPS reception
I want this bumper
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I want this bumper
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Agreed, This looks like the bumper you can get from the Russian yotaphone store... they even do it in different colours
http://yotaphone.com/ru-en/store/#bumper
Does anyone know how to obtain the official yota bumper if one does not live in the UK or Russia (I am in Canada)? I have contacted the UK yota store but they will not ship outside of the UK. I cannot find it anywhere else with the usual online dealers (clove, expansys, ...). Thanks.
Cool cases check it out guys
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/For-yotaphone-2/429058_501181446.html
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scdoyle said:
Does anyone know how to obtain the official yota bumper if one does not live in the UK or Russia (I am in Canada)? I have contacted the UK yota store but they will not ship outside of the UK. I cannot find it anywhere else with the usual online dealers (clove, expansys, ...). Thanks.
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It's sold in other countries too (I purchased mine from the French Yotaphone website), but this will be of limited benefit to you until they add Canada/USA to the list... (on a side note, anyone knows when the North America Indigogo campaign ends, and when the phone will be officially launched there?)
If you want, I have a trip planned to Canada in late August, I can certainly purchase one and either hand it to you if you live close to Montreal, or post it from there using local post services if you're too far away (Canada is definitely a biiig country).
Let me know if you're interested.
I've watched about 3-4 Scratch/Drop tests since the Note 20 Ultra released and everyone has been pretty bad so far. Micro Scratches galore and major screen breakage. Looks like the new Gorilla Glass isn't all its cracked up to be. Its actually pretty disappointing.
If someone is going to carry this phone around without any protection: May God have mercy on your soul.
thedarkness37 said:
If someone is going to carry this phone around without any protection: May God have mercy on your soul.
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I'm not, I got a case before mine even arrived. I'm just saying for how much they touted this new glass its not living up to the hype.
It's glass... Glass does what glass will do....
Not sure what you watched but the one I saw dropped 10 times from about 5-6 feet on the front without a single break. Small breakage on the back from a back drop.
This drop test video seems to disagree with you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6OcmT18R-I
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Not sure what you watched but the one I saw dropped 10 times from about 5-6 feet on the front without a single break. Small breakage on the back from a back drop.
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I watched these:
Corning says the phone will survive a 2 meter drop. That is 6 feet. These phones are starting to crack at 3 feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp9Ehqb_dGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLWOlVqvigU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6OcmT18R-I
howie411 said:
I watched these:
Corning says the phone will survive a 2 meter drop. That is 6 feet. These phones are starting to crack at 3 feet.
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You have to consider when corning says that they are talking about a flat piece of glass....now when samsung curves it and probably makes it thinner than the testing glass it goes back to the same durability as previous GG6 phones....I'm waiting to see some durability tests on the regular flat screen note20 but seems no one is (understandably) buying those.
These "tests" are no very realistic.
Imagine if a car magazine bought a new Ferrari and decided to test it by driving 100 mph down railroad tracks or in a corn field!
Want a realistic test especially for a woman? Put the phone in a big purse fall of crap they typically have, place in a paint can shaker for 1 hour. That would simulate a week's worth of wear?!
The majority of users have a case. Even a thin one increases survivability of drops enormously. Except cases with little "raisivity", the rim over the edge, on direct drops to macadam parking lots and such.
howie411 said:
I've watched about 3-4 Scratch/Drop tests since the Note 20 Ultra released and everyone has been pretty bad so far. Micro Scratches galore and major screen breakage. Looks like the new Gorilla Glass isn't all its cracked up to be. Its actually pretty disappointing.
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I dont trust a 1300 purchase to hype. They are never gonna drop a glass solution that will make me okay with leaving my phone completely naked.
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seczdbz said:
You have to consider when corning says that they are talking about a flat piece of glass....now when samsung curves it and probably makes it thinner than the testing glass it goes back to the same durability as previous GG6 phones....I'm waiting to see some durability tests on the regular flat screen note20 but seems no one is (understandably) buying those.
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I find it hard to believe they don't test the glass ON the device.
pcriz said:
I dont trust a 1300 purchase to hype. They are never gonna drop a glass solution that will make me okay with leaving my phone completely naked.
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I find it hard to believe they don't test the glass ON the device.
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I was talking about corning themselves. When they are testing/showing the strength of the new glass it is a just a flat piece of glass.
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I was talking about corning themselves. When they are testing/showing the strength of the new glass it is a just a flat piece of glass.
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I'm talking about Corning as well. They have a partnership with Samsung and a few others. They manufacture the glass for Samsung. I still find it a reach to think they are testing a flat piece of glass in a vacuum and not in the shape of the final product attached to at least a dummy device that represents the final product.
This is my opinion but I'm curious if you have a source on such a definite statement of how they test their product.
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I'm talking about Corning as well. They have a partnership with Samsung and a few others. They manufacture the glass for Samsung. I still find it a reach to think they are testing a flat piece of glass in a vacuum and not in the shape of the final product attached to at least a dummy device that represents the final product.
This is my opinion but I'm curious if you have a source on such a definite statement of how they test their product.
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It's the same concept of how samsung makes display panels for so many other phones but once that other phone maker gets the samsung panel they calibrate it to their own specs...I can't post any links yet but if you just search gorilla glass victus on YouTube there are videos showing them testing the glass...the dummy phone they test has a flat display and some other tests are just a piece of flat glass itself.
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It's the same concept of how samsung makes display panels for so many other phones but once that other phone maker gets the samsung panel they calibrate it to their own specs...I can't post any links yet but if you just search gorilla glass victus on YouTube there are videos showing them testing the glass...the dummy phone they test has a flat display and some other tests are just a piece of flat glass itself.
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Umm okay. A display panel that produces different results based on the driver's attached to it is not at all an analogy for a single piece of glass.
Also the videos you are talking about are for an iteration of their glass. They are advertising a product that could be used by anyone willing to pay for it. The fact that their promo videos for it show flat panels is only proof that most devices people imagine will be flat.
Samsung doesn't make gorilla glass. Every glass panel Corning makes for various customers is made in Harrodsburg Kentucky. They hold patents for their glass, you mean that is handed over to the individual OEMs to do with it what they will?
I'll just agree to disagree. Samsung doesn't get a recipe for the glass and just does what they want. And if corning is cutting corners between flat panels and curved just to make numbers that's neither here nor their for the consumer. Samsung is a large advertising medium for them, so delivering a subpar version of the glass to one of it's biggest avenues for getting it's name out there would be kind of silly.
I guess I don't get your point, is Samsung taking a good product and making it worse? Is this a defense of corning?
In my eye glass is glass, even the Jerry Rig video shows it's marginally more durable at best compared to GG6 last year's model.
It's all hype and marketing.
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Umm okay. A display panel that produces different results based on the driver's attached to it is not at all an analogy for a single piece of glass.
Also the videos you are talking about are for an iteration of their glass. They are advertising a product that could be used by anyone willing to pay for it. The fact that their promo videos for it show flat panels is only proof that most devices people imagine will be flat.
Samsung doesn't make gorilla glass. Every glass panel Corning makes for various customers is made in Harrodsburg Kentucky. They hold patents for their glass, you mean that is handed over to the individual OEMs to do with it what they will?
I'll just agree to disagree. Samsung doesn't get a recipe for the glass and just does what they want. And if corning is cutting corners between flat panels and curved just to make numbers that's neither here nor their for the consumer. Samsung is a large advertising medium for them, so delivering a subpar version of the glass to one of it's biggest avenues for getting it's name out there would be kind of silly.
I guess I don't get your point, is Samsung taking a good product and making it worse? Is this a defense of corning?
In my eye glass is glass, even the Jerry Rig video shows it's marginally more durable at best compared to GG6 last year's model.
It's all hype and marketing.
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I agree with you that in the end its all just hype and marketing. It's glass and it will still break and scratch.
thedarkness37 said:
If someone is going to carry this phone around without any protection: May God have mercy on your soul.
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I just put a skin on the back, that's it. I cannot stand cases. I like to feel the glass n metal of the phone. No some £10 plastic case. Yuk.
pcriz said:
I dont trust a 1300 purchase to hype. They are never gonna drop a glass solution that will make me okay with leaving my phone completely naked.
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Corning is not going to grab every different type of phone whose manufacturer purchased their glass and perform some sort of drop test. They make their sheet if glass and run it through its paces. After it's been altered to suit OEM needs, it's up to that party to come up with their own claims.
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Corning is not going to grab every different type of phone whose manufacturer purchased their glass and perform some sort of drop test. They make their sheet if glass and run it through its paces. After it's been altered to suit OEM needs, it's up to that party to come up with their own claims.
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I didn't they say would. They will test the panels. Probably do batch tests because they make so many. They make the glass. Of course they are testing the glass. I didn't say they were individually putting each panel they produce into a phone to check but to assume they don't do form fit checks would be strange.
They make every panel of glass in house. The claims of durability are theirs. Cornings.
Just want to leave my actual experience with the phone, on my last 7 days of use since I got it.
I'm using it with a slim TPU case, bare screen. Extra careful handling, no mixing with objects in the pocket, no accidents whatsoever.
After 5-6 days of use, I can already see some light marks/scratches, specially across the top border of the screen.
They are not visible most of the time, but they appear once you hit it with light on a certain angle, and they annoy me as hell.
As some other user told me here on XDA, it's likely due to microparticles living on my pocket, that end up creating this "misterious" scratches at some point.
This is specially relevant on this N20 Ultra, because of its huge size and its difficulty fitting on any pocket whatsoever.
And this has happened to me with my last 5-6 Galaxy phones (S20+, Note10+, S10+, etc), with their so-called "Gorilla" glasses.
So no it's not scratch resistant, certainly not a bit more than most of the previous generations. Not sure about crack resistance though, but I'd rather not test that myself.
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So no it's not scratch resistant, certainly not a bit more than most of the previous generations. Not sure about crack resistance though, but I'd rather not test that myself.
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I've always liked to point out that a lot of their focus is on shatter resistance. And unless they managed to magically change the laws of physics, the easiest way to avoid shattering glass is to make it "softer" this means the hardness is lowered so its less brittle. Problem is, thinking of it simply based on hardness and softness, softer glass scratches. Its why products like whitestone are so brittle, their hardness is higher.
Its not the worse trade off but like you said. Scratches are annoying.
Personally I ignore anything about gorilla glass. Unless they put a warranty against it, I'm gonna take measures to protect my investment.