For anybody that is like me and would like to be able to unlock their moto x with voice without speaking their PIN, I have found a solution and thought I would share it. It's not perfect, but it gets the job done and only works from issuing a command through the ok google now always listening.
Prerequisites: tasker, secure settings
First, go into phone settings>touchless control>commands while locked. Enable calls
Second, create a dummy contact on your phone. I named mine unlock phone and used 888-888-8888 as the phone number. You can use any number you like but it has to be a working number for this to work.
Third, Create a new profile in tasker with the state being an outgoing call to your new contact
Finally, the task:
A1: secure settings>clear password
A2: wait 5 seconds
A4: end call
A5: wait 5 seconds
A6: secure settings>set pin/password
now when the phone is locked just say, ok google now.....call unlock phone (I've also had luck just saying unlock phone). once the call goes through, secure settings disables the password, ends the call, and then resets your password/pin.
I also have many other tasker profiles that I am willing to share. I have been trying to completely switch to voice commands for the phone so I have been doing a lot of work with tasker and its plugins. Any questions just ask.
Thanks for the post and info about Tasker. I am new to tasker and would be interested in seeing your setups. Thanks for your input:good:
I have profiles for:
opening apps, setting the volume, unlocking the phone,
automatically searching for videos and playing them in netflix or youtube,
once i get the thing to use chromecast, going to add the ability to choose big screen
starting/stopping/pausing music, skipping next/previous songs, restarting current song,
checking the current artist name/ song track,
auto posting currently playing song to twitter account,
prompting when new text message arrives to see if you would like it read aloud
with the option to respond and verify the message before sending
my newest creation:
manually set the speed limit, or when maps opens, it asks if you would like to turn on the speedometer
once you specify a speed limit, it checks to make sure its between 0 and 85, if not it prompts you to say a new speed limit
once the speed limit is set, it monitors your speed every 10 seconds to see if you are going 3 or more mph over
if you are speeding, there is a verbal warning to slow down.
if you are driving more than 5 mph under the speed limit, it doesnt do anything the first time but after the second check, it asks you if the speed limit has changed. this allows you to slow down for whatever reason but speed back up without the phone yelling at you
I am working on a smart monitor that will automatically set the speed limit based on your current speed, warn you if you start speeding but if you continue to speed, it will automatically reset the speed limit without yelling at you multiple times. same thing is true if you drop below the speed limit for a specific amount of time, it will reset it then as well.
then for those times when you leave a town, it will detect that you are picking up a significant amount of speed and set the speed limit after you reach a consistent speed.
Semi-related, I recently learned about the shell input options in Tasker. You can simulate screen touches by selecting the action as script, and then shell. The command itself is:
Code:
input tap x y
Where X and Y are the coordinates on the screen. I find it easiest to enable the setting in Developer Options to see the coords you're touching and write them down, then enter them into Tasker. You can also use swipe instead of tap:
Code:
input swipe X1 Y1 X2 Y2
I didn't mess with it too much, but I see A LOT of potential with it and Tasker App Factory to make one off apps to execute the commands and using Google Now to launch them while driving, etc.
Note that using shell commands does require root.
ntalbert000 said:
For anybody that is like me and would like to be able to unlock their moto x with voice without speaking their PIN, I have found a solution and thought I would share it. It's not perfect, but it gets the job done and only works from issuing a command through the ok google now always listening.
Prerequisites: tasker, secure settings
First, go into phone settings>touchless control>commands while locked. Enable calls
Second, create a dummy contact on your phone. I named mine unlock phone and used 888-888-8888 as the phone number. You can use any number you like but it has to be a working number for this to work.
Third, Create a new profile in tasker with the state being an outgoing call to your new contact
Finally, the task:
A1: secure settings>clear password
A2: wait 5 seconds
A4: end call
A5: wait 5 seconds
A6: secure settings>set pin/password
now when the phone is locked just say, ok google now.....call unlock phone (I've also had luck just saying unlock phone). once the call goes through, secure settings disables the password, ends the call, and then resets your password/pin.
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This is semi related. I'm not sure if a new update caused the Speak Pin to Unlock to disappear but my Moto X screen broke yesterday and I can't even unlock my phone since the digitizer broke. If I use a voice command such as "Navigate Home" to trigger the unlock screen I only get the option to enter pin and no option to Speak Pin which makes this a pain. Of course I had also left USB Debugging unchecked as well.
BootlegZani said:
This is semi related. I'm not sure if a new update caused the Speak Pin to Unlock to disappear but my Moto X screen broke yesterday and I can't even unlock my phone since the digitizer broke. If I use a voice command such as "Navigate Home" to trigger the unlock screen I only get the option to enter pin and no option to Speak Pin which makes this a pain. Of course I had also left USB Debugging unchecked as well.
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Anyone else experience this? Bueller?
You can create a thread describing all your tasker automation. It can help everyone. Just my two cents :good:
@ntalbert000
Prerequisites: tasker, secure settings.
Which one tasker you mean? Its a pattern app? Sorry about my english. Appreciated.
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fredheriko said:
@ntalbert000
Prerequisites: tasker, secure settings.
Which one tasker you mean? Its a pattern app? Sorry about my english. Appreciated.
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There is only one app called Tasker, AFAIK.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm
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How the Hell do you enter owner info on the start screen. you know the "this device belongs to: "
was wondering about this too...if there is a lock screen (like the pattern thingie) so when someone finds it they cant open it, how will they know whos phone it is?!?! All my other phones I could put in something like, if found, please call ##...
friguy3 said:
was wondering about this too...if there is a lock screen (like the pattern thingie) so when someone finds it they cant open it, how will they know whos phone it is?!?! All my other phones I could put in something like, if found, please call ##...
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For pattern lock: Settings > Location & Security > Security Lock
From there you can do a passcode or the pattern. I personally use pattern because it can replace the slide to unlock all together while keeping it secure.
I got the pattern lock....but what about adding a note or your personal contact information, thats whats missing...thanks
If there is a way, I haven't found it. I know you can do it on rooted devices, depending on how the rom is set up, but as far as the droid x, I haven't seen a way to do it. You can download an app from the market that will call your phone if you lose it. Also there are apps that will find your phone on GPS. I know this isn't really what your wanting to do, but it will help you if it gets lost.
after many hours on the net I found the answer. you get this by installing the antivirus program from the apps market. you change the "this phone belongs to:" by going to the antivirus program and pressing the menu button form there go to settings, then remote management and finely lost message. you can change the whole message
antirice said:
after many hours on the net I found the answer. you get this by installing the antivirus program from the apps market. you change the "this phone belongs to:" by going to the antivirus program and pressing the menu button form there go to settings, then remote management and finely lost message. you can change the whole message
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That's just specific to that app. There is no way on the stock rom to set this information you are looking for. Just add a contact called Me to your contact list. That way if you lose the phone, somebody may call you (If they don't keep the phone)
antirice said:
after many hours on the net I found the answer. you get this by installing the antivirus program from the apps market. you change the "this phone belongs to:" by going to the antivirus program and pressing the menu button form there go to settings, then remote management and finely lost message. you can change the whole message
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Too much work for something too small I think.
One way is to update your wallpaper image to have the text you want (using your favorite image editor). Of course then it'll show on the normal home/launcher as well. But a short "Belongs to John Doe, (555) 555-5555" towards the bottom-center should work.
just found WidgetLocker Lockscreen. I havent tried it yet but I guess you can put widgets on the lock screens so I can put a note there with all this information...worth a try
Jelly Bean introduced headset controls which allowed Play/Pause and Next for single and double presses respectively on headsets. I can confirm both these work just fine.
However, the long-press option to launch Voice Search only works while screen is unlocked. When screen is locked, long-press has no effect (it does not even register as a single press)
I tried the following:
1. Disabling Pattern lock (which I mostly use)
2. Turning on screen (but still locked) and then long pressing.
3. Keeping Google Search on in the background and then locking screen.
No luck.
Cannot seem to get any useful info regarding this on the Internet.
There is no point in the voice search shortcut on headsets if the phone has to be dug out from my pocket and unlocked. There has to be a way to bypass that.
Can somebody help??
EDIT: I am also unsure if this is an Android-specific problem or a ROM specific problem, so it would be kind of you if you could test it yourself. You can see my ROM details in the signature. I use Samsung headset in combination with my Nexus 4.
UPDATE: I tried turning off the "Power button immediately locks phone" option and set "Automatically lock phone after sleep" time to 30 minutes. Still the long press doesn't work. It works only after screen is turned on again. Whaaaaa...?!
ANOTHER UPDATE: This issue is present on Google Code but it has been closed without further comments. Please star this issue so that it is noticed by the development team.
Been really frustrated about this as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I'm running Jellybeer 4.0 on SGH i717m
Astounding. I even have to use a third party app to dial by voice reliably. What good is Google's extensive voice technology if you can't use it?
I'm equally as confused. One advantage of owning an iPhone is that you've got an excellent bike companion that could read and reply to texts, make calls, check the time, etc all while keeping my eyes on the road and hands on my handlebars. I always figured my Nexus S didn't do that because I was running a different ROM - but 4.2 on a brand new Nexus.....come on.
rhoadster91 said:
Jelly Bean introduced headset controls which allowed Play/Pause and Next for single and double presses respectively on headsets. I can confirm both these work just fine.
However, the long-press option to launch Voice Search only works while screen is unlocked. When screen is locked, long-press has no effect (it does not even register as a single press)
I tried the following:
1. Disabling Pattern lock (which I mostly use)
2. Turning on screen (but still locked) and then long pressing.
3. Keeping Google Search on in the background and then locking screen.
No luck.
Cannot seem to get any useful info regarding this on the Internet.
There is no point in the voice search shortcut on headsets if the phone has to be dug out from my pocket and unlocked. There has to be a way to bypass that.
Can somebody help??
EDIT: I am also unsure if this is an Android-specific problem or a ROM specific problem, so it would be kind of you if you could test it yourself. You can see my ROM details in the signature. I use Samsung headset in combination with my Nexus 4.
UPDATE: I tried turning off the "Power button immediately locks phone" option and set "Automatically lock phone after sleep" time to 30 minutes. Still the long press doesn't work. It works only after screen is turned on again. Whaaaaa...?!
ANOTHER UPDATE: This issue is present on Google Code but it has been closed without further comments. Please star this issue so that it is noticed by the development team.
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the closest thing that i know of is using touch control to swipe to unlock (like pressing the power button) the using NAV RING to swipe the nav ring to google search, or what ever app you like. not sure if this is what you want but it may get you closer.
HB66 said:
the closest thing that i know of is using touch control to swipe to unlock (like pressing the power button) the using NAV RING to swipe the nav ring to google search, or what ever app you like. not sure if this is what you want but it may get you closer.
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Here is what appears to be the correct place to file this complaint.
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/ZbaIyhTIje4/GAKOqRrNjnAJ
Someone else started the report, I added as well, maybe someone at google will see and fix this oversight.
I have to admit I have wanted to be able to do this for a long time on my motorcycle, being able to press one button and use voice controls would be a god send, although when riding I use an E-Dash app that keeps the screen awake so voice is available.
Still.......would be nice to be able to leave the phone alone, say in a bag or on my hip and use my Bluetooth headset to do all the work
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WilliamWynter said:
Been really frustrated about this as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I'm running Jellybeer 4.0 on SGH i717m
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Solutions Etcetera said:
Astounding. I even have to use a third party app to dial by voice reliably. What good is Google's extensive voice technology if you can't use it?
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bryantee said:
I'm equally as confused. One advantage of owning an iPhone is that you've got an excellent bike companion that could read and reply to texts, make calls, check the time, etc all while keeping my eyes on the road and hands on my handlebars. I always figured my Nexus S didn't do that because I was running a different ROM - but 4.2 on a brand new Nexus.....come on.
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HB66 said:
the closest thing that i know of is using touch control to swipe to unlock (like pressing the power button) the using NAV RING to swipe the nav ring to google search, or what ever app you like. not sure if this is what you want but it may get you closer.
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thedarkharlequin said:
Here is what appears to be the correct place to file this complaint.
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/ZbaIyhTIje4/GAKOqRrNjnAJ
Someone else started the report, I added as well, maybe someone at google will see and fix this oversight.
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Lord_alias said:
I have to admit I have wanted to be able to do this for a long time on my motorcycle, being able to press one button and use voice controls would be a god send, although when riding I use an E-Dash app that keeps the screen awake so voice is available.
Still.......would be nice to be able to leave the phone alone, say in a bag or on my hip and use my Bluetooth headset to do all the work
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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Please check this link
My solution:
1. Download Bluetooth Launch from Play Store
2. Launch, scroll to Google Search and expand it
3. Enable option “com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox.VoiceSearchActivity”
4. close
5. launch Google Now go to Settings -> Voice and enable Bluetooth Headset option
6. connect not working Bluetooth or wired headset and long press button. Dialog should appear and select Bluetooth Launcher always!
7. test if this is the complete solution for you. If it doesnt work properly when screen is locked try following:
- Install Xposed Framework
- go to Downloads and Install "AppSettings"
- open AppSettings and go to Google Search
- Turn On Settings and check "Show when locked"
- save
- restart Phone
If you are having issues with your selected language in Google Now. Also use AppSettings and change Location for Google Search to desired one. Now you should be able to use Google Now in your preferred language.
stunner2002 said:
My solution:
1. Download Bluetooth Launch from Play Store
2. Launch, scroll to Google Search and expand it
3. Enable option “com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox.VoiceSearchActivity”
4. close
5. launch Google Now go to Settings -> Voice and enable Bluetooth Headset option
6. connect not working Bluetooth or wired headset and long press button. Dialog should appear and select Bluetooth Launcher always!
7. test if this is the complete solution for you. If it doesnt work properly when screen is locked try following:
- Install Xposed Framework
- go to Downloads and Install "AppSettings"
- open AppSettings and go to Google Search
- Turn On Settings and check "Show when locked"
- save
- restart Phone
If you are having issues with your selected language in Google Now. Also use AppSettings and change Location for Google Search Now you should be able to use Google Now in your preferred language.
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But Exposed Framework requires your phone to be rooted, which I'm done doing... to much of a pain when it comes time to update
Would it be possible? Including the voice wake functionality "Okay, Google Now" instead of "Hi Galaxy"?
How many would be interested in something like this?
Should not be too hard to do, what do you think?
Probably will need root to achieve it
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SOLVED: using a very simple tasker profile/action (see here)
UPDATE: Install this tiny free app from the Play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.viczian.deathtosvoice (created using Tasker App Factory)
Works on galaxy advancement
vgergo said:
Would it be possible? Including the voice wake functionality "Okay, Google Now" instead of "Hi Galaxy"?
How many would be interested in something like this?
Should not be too hard to do, what do you think?
Probably will need root to achieve it
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Works on galaxy advancement? thank you
Leonardosilvaa said:
Works on galaxy advancement? thank you
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For some reason, I can now double tap home button and I get the option for S-voice or Google voice. I think I cleared the defaults in app settings.
Presjar said:
For some reason, I can now double tap home button and I get the option for S-voice or Google voice. I think I cleared the defaults in app settings.
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Any idea how to replicate this?
Presjar said:
For some reason, I can now double tap home button and I get the option for S-voice or Google voice. I think I cleared the defaults in app settings.
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Yeah I got this too. It happened after I installed SoundHound.
Now I have the options of
Google
S Voice
SoundHound
Interesting but without the option to activate gvoice with screen off its not a huge benefit. I tested open mic+ but it lacks admin rights to bypass the lockscreen etc.
vinokirk said:
Yeah I got this too. It happened after I installed SoundHound.
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The free version? I've tried that but I don't see a menu after double clicking home.
mgutt said:
Interesting but without the option to activate gvoice with screen off its not a huge benefit. I tested open mic+ but it lacks admin rights to bypass the lockscreen etc.
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You mean root permissions?
Sorry, I was wrong. I thought S-Voice is able to bypass a pin lockscreen but it isn't. It is only admin (not root) to allow the screen off command.
The problem of open mic+ is, that it is buggy. It seems to freeze after a short time. Sometimes Google Now freezes as well so I think it is because of Open Mic+ but I didn't tested it enough to verify it. S-Voice seems to be more stable, but is not present if you are in other apps like Maps.
But both systems are too weak in rights. e.g. I'm not able to stop apps (ok root would be needed), not able to say my lockscreen pin, stop a phone call, etc.
Tasker
I just had an idea: it should be possible to create a very simple tasker action, which would be triggered by opening s-voice. It would exit s-voice and switch immediatelly to Google Voice Search. This should work even without rooting.
If this would work, all the convenient ways to start S-Voice would become actually useful to start Google Voice search, including voice-wake, home-double-click, headset-long-press.
I will try this as soon as I get my N3
How do you want to exit S-Voice without root
There's the point! Okay, without root we can just switch away (would mic input focus stay? that would be a problem), with root it should be possible to kick s-voice too.
If one app opens the mic the other will display an error.
Tasker solution works well on unrooted phone
mgutt said:
If one app opens the mic the other will display an error.
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I am happy to report, that the solution I came up with before I had access to the Note 3 works without a hitch.
1. Enable wake-up hotword detection in S-Voice (keep double click Home if you like that too)
2. Create "S Voice" app-triggered tasker profile
3. The activated task should load "Voice Search"
4. Optional step: after starting voice search, my task also kills S-Voice to save memory
(and killing s-voice every time makes you me good)
There is no concurrency problem with the mic (as we were anticipating)
Say "Hi galaxy" while having the screen turned off
(I actually like to "say Die galaxy")
phone wakes up,
home screen unlocks,
s-voice flashes on screen for half a sec (beeps too)
then google voice search appears immediately
it too beeps and listens for the search term or command
Next project: it would be nice to be able to change the "hi galaxy" wake up command
The changeable wake up command is part of the Galaxy S4 S-Voice so I think it will be part in the Note 3 in one of the next updates (hopefully).
Of course I tested your idea, too. But it seems that it works better with Llama than with Tasker as Google Voice starts immediately. As I'm not rooted its not as perfect as yours (I need to tap backwards fast to bypass restarting Google Voice), but the goal is reached
Look:
http://www.maxrev.de/google-sprachsuche-statt-s-voice-mp4-v377253.htm
Update:
Ok I found a better solution. Know I'm using three rules instead of one and this is how it works:
Final Demo Video
The first rule starts Google Voice, but checks if the variable "googleSearch" is not 1 (this is important as it fails, too if the variable does not exist after rebooting the device). The second rules sets the var to "1" if Google Voice is open. The last rule resets the var to "0" with a delay of 3 seconds after Google Voice has been closed. So I'm having 3 seconds to close S Voice before Google Voice would start again.
If you don't want to here the "ping" sound of S Voice after closing Google Voice it would be possible to mute the device for 3 seconds as well, but I don't think this is really important
mgutt said:
The changeable wake up command is part of the Galaxy S4 S-Voice so I think it will be part in the Note 3 in one of the next updates (hopefully).
Of course I tested your idea, too. But it seems that it works better with Llama than with Tasker as Google Voice starts immediately. As I'm not rooted its not as perfect as yours (I need to tap backwards fast to bypass restarting Google Voice), but the goal is reached
Look:
http://www.maxrev.de/google-sprachsuche-statt-s-voice-mp4-v377253.htm
Update:
Ok I found a better solution. Know I'm using three rules instead of one and this is how it works:
Final Demo Video
The first rule starts Google Voice, but checks if the variable "googleSearch" is not 1 (this is important as it fails, too if the variable does not exist after rebooting the device). The second rules sets the var to "1" if Google Voice is open. The last rule resets the var to "0" with a delay of 3 seconds after Google Voice has been closed. So I'm having 3 seconds to close S Voice before Google Voice would start again.
If you don't want to here the "ping" sound of S Voice after closing Google Voice it would be possible to mute the device for 3 seconds as well, but I don't think this is really important
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thats excellent Mgutt
the note does the transition across to google now/voice commands very quickly.. you have put the note back on the table as an option for my next phone.. im just holding out to see if the LG G2 will use the S800 for always on listening when it gets kitkat..
Im a bit spooked by AMOLED now that my galaxy S2 is marred by burn in
etherspin said:
thats excellent Mgutt
the note does the transition across to google now/voice commands very quickly.. you have put the note back on the table as an option for my next phone.. im just holding out to see if the LG G2 will use the S800 for always on listening when it gets kitkat..
Im a bit spooked by AMOLED now that my galaxy S2 is marred by burn in
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I'm having one problem left. But I think its because of Llamas limited amount of triggers. The problem is: Google Voice is not able to receive the next command while its open. Instead S Voice waits for the next "Hello Galaxy". To bypass this problem I tried to switch off the display automatically. This works, but only with a fixed delay as I'm not able to trigger "last touch/last talk + 10 seconds" with Llama.
Would this work with Tasker (and without Root)?
The next option would be to activate "Open Mic+" as long Google Voice is open. But I did not tested if this would work.
mgutt said:
Would this work with Tasker (and without Root)?
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Well we can set the display timeout to 15sec, then restore the default (it's 30 sec for me because of smart stay) when google voice search disappears.
Because of the 30 sec display timeout it hasn't been much of a problem for me, but I was also wondering how to get it to prompt for a next question.
Curious: why doesn't the "ok, google" hotword work in google now? I've just tested the google experience launcher and hot word detection doesn't work in there either.
vgergo said:
Well we can set the display timeout to 15sec, then restore the default (it's 30 sec for me because of smart stay) when google voice search disappears.
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I'm using this setup (after 20 seconds display is turned off) and this is not good if you press the microphone button. Then the display switches off, too. So we need an additional "on touch" condition to avoid that.
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I'm using this setup (after 20 seconds display is turned off) and this is not good if you press the microphone button. Then the display switches off, too. So we need an additional "on touch" condition to avoid that.
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Okay, then set the display timeout to 15sec, wait 15sec then set it back to whatever it used to be. Then if the screen was touched (and the display timeout extended) then it will stay on...
I hope to be able to test these with tasker in the afternoon
I have the T-Mobile Galaxy S4, with the newest (kitkat) stock update, 4.4.2 . It is not rooted.
I use the pattern draw security to wake up from lock screen. I think it is important to have some such security, so that if one leaves one's phone somewhere by accident, someone else cannot pick it up and find out all kinds of personal and financial information.
Yet, when driving a car, it can be difficult (and unsafe) to draw the pattern, or even more so a pin or password, if one wants to make a phone call, navigate, etc For driving, it would be good to be able to unlock the screen with voice. (One could set an unusual wake-up command (no, not "Hi Galaxy" ), so that others would not be able to wake it up with voice. )
I would like to be able to open from the lockscreen with either the pattern OR voice, depending on the situation.
There is a post in a forum that shows how to do that: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...tooth-security-lock-screen-your-note-3-a.html
However, that post is in a forum for Galaxy Note 3.
I tried it on my S4. I turned off the pattern security, and set it to swipe. I followed all the listed steps. Except--one command I could not find on the S4 [Quote from forum post]: LONG PRESS Voice Wake-up to reveal the hidden command> √ "wake up in Secure Lock".[end quote]
I could not long press anything to get that hidden command "wake up in secure lock".
After following all the other steps, with no security, I could wake from the lock screen by voice command. But only with no security, with lock screen set to swipe (which is no security at all).
Once I re-enabled the pattern security (also tried it with PIN), I could not wake the phone by voice any more.
Does anyone know how to get this to work on the T-Mo Galaxy S4? I think it is important to have some security, but would like to be able to wake the phone up by voice while driving.
If it is not possible from the phone's own setup, is there an app one could install that would add that functionality?
One of the secure lockscreen settings is to unlock with voice and face recognition. I would never set that. For one thing, when driving, one would have to stare at the phone for face recognition, not safe. Also, I would not want to have to unlock the phone with my voice every time. For instance, in a quiet place, I don/'t want to have to talk to my phone to unlock it. (And then everyone would hear what one's unlock command is!)
If totally impossible to do with the current update on the S4, is there a way to give suggestions to Samsung, to ask for that feature on the S4? (Which from that other forum post, certainly looks like it is possible on the Note 3.)
This capability would improve both highway safety and phone security. For people should not have to stare at their phone screen to draw a pattern or enter a PIN while driving. But if they therefore turn off lockscreen security entirely, they are compromising their phone security, inviting identity theft, etc. One should be able to have a secure lockscreen that one can open by drawing a pattern (or PIN or password, whichever one prefers) OR a user-set voice command. (In other words, have the lockscreen set to open either way.)
Thank you in advance for your input.
So after a bit of digging around and research, I managed to find and enable Smart Lock. For those of you who didn't know, it's hidden under Security > Trust Agents. After you've enabled, a new 'Smart Lock' menu appears at the bottom of the Security settings menu where you can manage your Smartlock features. Interestingly, it also features the new 'on-body detection'.
So I set it up about 3 days ago but it doesn't always work for me and I'm questioning if it works at all. My lock screen is set to re-enable after 10 minutes of inactivity so it may just be that I logged in during this time and thought that it may be working. I have 3 differen't ways of using smart lock, all of which are enabled: 1= Bluetooth devices including my Moto 360 which is always connected 2=Location, my home address and 3=On-body detection.
But yeah, as I say, it doesn't seem to be working as 90% of the time, I still have to enter my pin to access my phone. Anyone else tried this or willing to test it out? I'm running the first N910FXXU1BOC3 release from Netherlands/Samsung Experience stock.
bumpy - Anyone!?
Went out of the country and decided to try it out, was working great, but here and there I noticed that the phone gets unlocked in the pocket on second day of using this feature, my pictures and music folder has been deleted, I suspect that it happened accidentally in the pocket... Don't have any other explanation. I would avoid this feature while traveling or if you have to pull out phone quite often.
I'm also having the same issue, mine doesn't work when using Smart lock with my Moto 360, it keeps asking for my finger print to unlock...
I have used On-Body Detection and I can say that it worked great from my point of view. One thing to mention, i don't keep my phone in the pocket of my pants, always pocket of my jacket so did not have any issues with unlocking by itself and performing random operations.
But on BOC3 i did notice that the phone was constantly awake and one of the things i tried was disabling on-body detection i can see now that the wakelock issue was resolved and i'm getting a estimated 3 Days left on 80% battery. From my point of view this is more important that unlocking the phone easier
And regarding the trusted devices part and pairing with a smartwatch, i don't see the security benefit of that as the Bluetooth range is quite big. From a security point of view, trusted devices based on a Bluetooth link is not a good idea.
Its not working at all for me with 'Trusted Devices' - I use my Motorola 360 as a trusted device and it all confirms its set up. The only change it actually makes though is that when I wake up my phone, I have to swipe up to access my pin entry screen. Whereas if I disable smart lock, I get straight to the pin entry screen! This was a completely clean flash of BOC5 (Lux) all data, system, cache, etc was wiped and formatted before install through ODIN.
maverick1103 said:
I'm also having the same issue, mine doesn't work when using Smart lock with my Moto 360, it keeps asking for my finger print to unlock...
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Iggy82 said:
Its not working at all for me with 'Trusted Devices' - I use my Motorola 360 as a trusted device and it all confirms its set up. The only change it actually makes though is that when I wake up my phone, I have to swipe up to access my pin entry screen. Whereas if I disable smart lock, I get straight to the pin entry screen! This was a completely clean flash of BOC5 (Lux) all data, system, cache, etc was wiped and formatted before install through ODIN.
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Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
Smart Lock works awesome on my phone. I have my truck's bluetooth as a trusted device and I set up my home as a trusted location. Both work flawlessly but one thing I had to do was add an additional location for my home along with the preset "Home" location I had set up in Maps a long time ago. It wouldn't work until I manually added the 2nd home location.
It's a great feature.
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Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Thanks!
It's just not intuitive. I didn't think to swipe outside the lock ring.
Is it possible ty by-pass unlock screen completely, when in "trusted zone"? Without root.
I'm currently using KNOX and have lockscreen disabled.
If I enable lockscreen (to check its features etc), to disable it again I would have to delete my KNOX container.
keekooceeaou said:
Thanks!
It's just not intuitive. I didn't think to swipe outside the lock ring.
Is it possible ty by-pass unlock screen completely, when in "trusted zone"? Without root.
I'm currently using KNOX and have lockscreen disabled.
If I enable lockscreen (to check its features etc), to disable it again I would have to delete my KNOX container.
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I suppose it's a matter of personal preference, I like the idea of being able to quickly secure my screen without, for example, disconnecting my BT earphones. Plus, it's more difficult to aim for the little lock icon than to actually swipe in the middle of the screen.
I am not sure about your question as I don't use the KNOX container, sorry! It sounds though as a security measure that is not possible to bypass. But I could be wrong.
iridaki said:
Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Thanks for sharing, I figured it out in the end and forgot to post back with the answer, I couldn't believe I didn't realise it straight away ?
maverick1103 said:
Thanks for sharing, I figured it out in the end and forgot to post back with the answer, I couldn't believe I didn't realise it straight away ?
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Took me a few attempts too, can be confusing at first!
iridaki said:
Took me a few attempts too, can be confusing at first!
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Still it's the one main feature I have been waiting for with lollipop which I'm glad I have now!
iridaki said:
Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Brilliant, it does work! It was purely me swiping up from the lock icon like you say! Doesn't seem very intuitive but I'm just glad it's working! I owe you a beer!