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Thought the title would get your attention.
After upgrading to Froyo, I have many issues, two of which I'll cover here in hope that someone can resolve them.
First issue is battery life. Absolutely horrible after upgrading. Thought it would be the opposite. Can someone please provide some resolution to this issue? I've disabled a number of things said to resolve this problem but none have worked.
The second issue is the accelerometer after upgrading. Most screens end up in landscape view and switching back to portrait is difficult. I have tried to calibrate it but that didn't work. Don't like the huge delay or failed attempt to switch between both on this version. Calibration does not work.
Any help is appreciated...
pookieguy said:
Thought the title would get your attention.
After upgrading to Froyo, I have many issues, two of which I'll cover here in hope that someone can resolve them.
First issue is battery life. Absolutely horrible after upgrading. Thought it would be the opposite. Can someone please provide some resolution to this issue? I've disabled a number of things said to resolve this problem but none have worked.
The second issue is the accelerometer after upgrading. Most screens end up in landscape view and switching back to portrait is difficult. I have tried to calibrate it but that didn't work. Don't like the huge delay or failed attempt to switch between both on this version. Calibration does not work.
Any help is appreciated...
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buy a new battery and a good charger
menu>settings> display> uncheck Auto-rotate screen
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Why would I want to uncheck that option? I want it to auto rotate but want it to happen quicker than it has after upgrading.
battery..
In addition, the battery is obviously not the problem here. This started after upgrading to Froyo.
Were you using a custom ROM with 2.1?
Are you using a custom ROM with 2.2?
As far as I know, the stock ROM with 2.1 didn't have great battery life either (thought I'm not sure, I rooted my phone the day I got it ). So if you're using a stock ROM with 2.2, you could have the same issue.
Also, if you are rooted, try using SetCPU. Even with the default kernel you can use it to underclock your phone when the screen's off and save a lot of battery.
pookieguy said:
Thought the title would get your attention.
After upgrading to Froyo, I have many issues, two of which I'll cover here in hope that someone can resolve them.
First issue is battery life. Absolutely horrible after upgrading. Thought it would be the opposite. Can someone please provide some resolution to this issue? I've disabled a number of things said to resolve this problem but none have worked.
The second issue is the accelerometer after upgrading. Most screens end up in landscape view and switching back to portrait is difficult. I have tried to calibrate it but that didn't work. Don't like the huge delay or failed attempt to switch between both on this version. Calibration does not work.
Any help is appreciated...
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You hate Froyo then please return your EVO to sprint
are you running a task killer? try removing it. Have you tried any of the MANY battery life tricks? Try flashing the update.zip, could have been a messy install. you also could be suffering from useritis.
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Thanks for the reply. No, phone has not been rooted. I simply waited for the 2.2 upgrade and can confirm both issues are a result of upgrading. You are right...the stock ROM did not have good battery life. However, after upgrading, it is much worse in comparison.
The g-sensor issue is also a huge problem. With that said, I'm looking for a fix to these two issues.
Thanks,
task killer..
tonyh703,
Yes, I'm running Advanced Task Killer which did not have a problem before. Is this an app that can cause this problem? I'll remove it if so...
You really need to do a little detective work to find out why your battery is not lasting. My battery is actually lasting noticeably longer on froyo. I was using Fresh 1.0.1 before with Netarchy's kernel and would just barely make it through the day of moderate use. Now that I have updated to Fresh 3.1.0.1, I am easily making it through the day with about the same use. Yesterday, I went 14 hours and still had 26% left when I plugged it in for the night. My usage was about 2 hours streaming last.fm, about a half hour of phone calls, about 1 1/2 hours of internet and twitter, about 45 minutes watching video's, and an hour and a half of reading with my kindle ap. To me that is pretty darn good. I have gps on, twitter syncing every half hour, and google sync on, most of my other stuff like email and such is set to manually sync. The only thing I did notice is that the first day after going to Froyo, my battery went down pretty quick, but after a day or two it settled down to the way it is now on it's own. Today I have had about the same use as yesterday so far, and have been off of the charger for 11 hours and have 76% remaining.
As to your other problem, can't say, mine is working fine.
If youve got an led flashlight type of app installed uninstall it they conflict with the HTC LED flashlight. That seems to be the most common problem with people upgrading to Froyo.
Agree on your second point. I wish there was a way to at least lock the screen to an orientation when need. The delay though is ridiculous.
I have also noticed that the delay to type sometimes is severely long causing me to retype the words a second time before they appear in the screen.
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FWIW - I found a little trick on a forum somewhere that allegedly came from HTC techs...
It goes like this - first, charge your phone as normal (phone on, 8 hours)
Then, after 8 hours and the phone reporting fully charged status, take the phone off the charger for about 3 minutes (just enough to slightly discharge it) and then turn it off (power down) and put it back on the charger for an hour or so.
Then, take it off the charger and turn it back on.
That's it! It sounds a bit ridiculous, but I think the cited reason was that whenever you install a new ROM, the "system" needs to understand when the battery is truly full and this trick helps to recalibrate and ensure that it is.
I really don't have any way (nor the desire) to verify the science behind this, but I did it myself after the horrible battery life I got with FroYo.
About a week out now and my battery is behaving completely normally, and possibly better than with 2.1, though only marginally if that...
Give it a shot - if it works, there you go, if not... Well it's not like you've lost anything.
Good luck, though YMMV.
Sent from my EVO 4G (Froyo - Stock HTC Rom)
have any of yall had a long delay when putting in a name for the reciver in sms? I kid you not it takes almost 3 to 5 sec for it to pull up a name and phone number from my phone book.
Its sad that you need to do "tricks" to get decent battery life, because most people expect it out of the box. Yes you can apply a custom rom with a undervolted cpu, but that shouldnt be necessary. I personally love doing all that stuff, but the majority of people are completely ignorant to these methods and might return their phones because of battery life, but for you people on here...BAKEDSNACK 1.2.5 with the latest of his kernel..amazing battery life.
Get rid of that task killer!! Froyo does not need it... Not to mention none of the task killers support Froyo correctly. Uninstall it, try using Froyo without it.
I recommend getting rid of the task killer and go without system panel lite. It works with froyo without any problems. I also recommend letting your battery completely die out before charging it again.
My Evo worked without any issues after the update to froyo. Also, if you are a widget fanatic, I recommend limiting the amount yo u use . The reason being that everytime you unlock your phone and scroll from one page to through next, you are loading said widgets into memory which help to eating up the battery quicker.
Also if you have a lot of things updating in the background, that can kill your battery quicker. I'm always on my phone and get anywhere from ten to fourteen hours of use. I also use a cpu manager to extend the life of my battery when not in use.
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DO NOT DEPLETE YOUR BATTERY COMPLETELY!! These are Li-ion batteries. Depleting the battery too much can damage the cells. Discharging the batteries 100% before charging to avoid memory effect is a phenomena unique to Ni-Cad batteries. If a Li-ion is discharged too severely, it causes an irreversible reaction inside the cell that prevents the battery from holding any charge at all. This common in laptop batteries.
To the OPs issue, do you have the latest Facebook update (1.3.1)? Version 1.3.0 had an issue that was keeping the phone awake eating up battery life.
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sombdy said:
DO NOT DEPLETE YOUR BATTERY COMPLETELY!! These are Li-ion batteries. Depleting the battery too much can damage the cells. Discharging the batteries 100% before charging to avoid memory effect is a phenomena unique to Ni-Cad batteries. If a Li-ion is discharged too severely, it causes an irreversible reaction inside the cell that prevents the battery from holding any charge at all. This common in laptop batteries.
To the OPs issue, do you have the latest Facebook update (1.3.1)? Version 1.3.0 had an issue that was keeping the phone awake eating up battery life.
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I could see how this could be bad if you discharged it completely every single time, but every phone ive had including the iphone, it has been specificly stated many times to COMPLETELY DISCHARGE THE BATTERY ATLEAST ONCE A MONTH
Still no luck...
Guys,
I have removed the task killer and have removed the other LED Light utility. Still having battery issues. Any other suggestions please??
Also,
What about the accelerometer? Having many issues with it. First off, when a text msg comes in, it automatically shows in landscape. Phone switches to landscape fine but it is very difficult to switch back to portrait.
Any other help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Hello all,
I bought the HD a couple of months after it first was released and have never had this problem until about 3 days ago, where my phone has started to suddenly "die" even with ample battery life in it. When I reboot it, it simply starts to reboot then dies again as if the battery is dead, however, when I plug it into the charger, it shows that it has over half to almost full battery life. So the problem can not be that the battery is simply dying. What could be causing this problem? I have ample free main storage and program memory and it occurs even when there is only one program running or even when I'm just in the middle of a call.
Can anyone help me solve this problem? I have tons of medical programs in my phone which took forever to install and don't want to hard reset the phone, especially if that is not even the solution to the problem. Help?
Same thing happened to me, but my phone gets some water. I had to dry it and wait a month. Then it worked fine. If your phone hasn't took any water the problem must be elsewhere.
One question, it dies even if attached to the power? or only on battery?
If it dies only on battery then could be the battery not working properly.
bye
Batteries do weird stuff when they're dead. If it works OK on power but not on battery, chances are the battery is indeed on its way out. If you don't want to do a hard reset, a replacement battery on ebay is cheap and worth trying.
Hello,
I have exactly the same behavior. I changed of Rom, different build, each time running Task29, but it is always the same thing :
- when charged, phone never dies
- when on battery, it randomly dies but always when phone is awake
I think too it may come from the battery, so I just ordered a new one, and I'll keep you up to date.
Ciao,
Yea, so far it has occurred about 4 times, always when it's not plugged in however the battery meter shows alof of battery time left. I'm thinking it's the battery too, it just sucks to have to pay so much for an OEM battery. Oh well, thanks for the help everyone.
Hello,
so I received my new battery this morning.
After some phone calls and some tests...so far so good ! I'll tell you if something's change in the next days, but it seems changing the battery is the solution.
Cheers,
Mine started doing similar things. Guess I will order a battery too. Which one did you get?
Well I got the exact same one I had previously : an official htc touch hd battery.
Part number : 35H00120-01M.
I hope this one will last until I really want to change my phone .
Any more issues since replacing the battery?
still no issues so far. I am really happy because as the battery is new, my phone last much longer than before.
Same here. Got the new battery yesterday and it's back to it's old self. Now it should last me until the dual core processor Android devices come out next year.
Well it would be nice if my pnone only turned off when it wasnt on charge but it seems to just reset itself whenever it wants. it will simply turn off and start right back up sometimes not even reaching the rom load before it turns off again. It does this for a while or just simply once. I tried erasing all data off it and hoping it was something i uploaded but it could be that my battery is just no good anymore.
Any suggestions? ive been dealing with this for 6 months
I don't know about you, but I played quite a lot with my phone, trying a lot of ROM, for a while, even beta ones, and I tried to overclock it. Often the phone would heat up a lot. It may have be hard on the battery.
Right now I am using a stable rom of NRG from last month, with the new battery, and everything is fine. The phone never heat, and I happy for now.
Like Marksm, I am waiting for Android dual core phones or at least based on Tegra 2.
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Well it would be nice if my pnone only turned off when it wasnt on charge but it seems to just reset itself whenever it wants. it will simply turn off and start right back up sometimes not even reaching the rom load before it turns off again. It does this for a while or just simply once. I tried erasing all data off it and hoping it was something i uploaded but it could be that my battery is just no good anymore.
Any suggestions? ive been dealing with this for 6 months
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As pointed out in above posts, a change in battery appears to have rectified issue
been there done that. Didnt work, i got a new phone but i would really like to keep this.
I'll post everything I've tried and everything that's gone wrong here.
So initially I purchased this phone off of a friend nearly brand new, the screen had broken and had been replaced. Otherwise the phone is in perfect factory condition.
I unlocked the phone, and am using it on Rogers. APN settings working perfectly.
I installed GOLauncherEX on the phone as Motoblur wasn't doing it for me.
Battery life was crap (lasting hardly 3 hours and dying while I sleep). I found that Motoblur HOME had been running alongside GOLauncherEX. At first I simply uninstalled the third-party launcher, but then opted to grab LauncherPro+ and HomeSwitcher. This dramatically improved battery life.
Lately, I've been having issues once in awhile again. Mostly if I leave the phone unplugged while I'm sleeping (fully charged when unplugged) and we'll use the timeline 3am - 11am. It would either die completely or drop to around 15%.
As long as I could have enough charge to last me through work, I was fine with this as it was way better than what had been happening before.
This morning something extreme and unexplainable happened.. and it's the first time I took a look at the battery usage meter to see what had happened. Picture is below.
If someone could offer some tips or help that would benefit me even the slightest, it would be very much appreciated.
My bad for sneaking a link in, but it was the only way to show the issue.
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(Remove the space between 1297964 and 124 at the end)
Oh and also, phone is rooted, bloatware is frozen via Titanium Backup Pro.
Have you recalibrated?
WiredPirate said:
Have you recalibrated?
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Do you have any suggestions as to what to use to calibrate?
I'm not keen on flashing any new roms if that makes a difference.
SL1VR said:
Do you have any suggestions as to what to use to calibrate?
I'm not keen on flashing any new roms if that makes a difference.
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Calibrating is something you may need to do after flashing a ROM, you can search and find a guide or you can use this app.
I have not flashed any new roms and I don't intend on doing so, but I'll check out the app you posted.
Thanks for your help,
any new ideas are still welcome.
The benefits of battery calibration are not limited to only if you flash a new ROM. Battery calibration should be the first thing you try if you are experiencing battery troubles imo, and there is allot more in depth information in the guides you could search for.
There is one more thing I can think of you can try, download Watchdog and see if there are any malicious or poorly written apps burning up your cpu/battery.
WiredPirate said:
The benefits of battery calibration are not limited to only if you flash a new ROM. Battery calibration should be the first thing you try if you are experiencing battery troubles imo, and there is allot more in depth information in the guides you could search for.
There is one more thing I can think of you can try, download Watchdog and see if there are any malicious or poorly written apps burning up your cpu/battery.
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Thanks for your help, grabbing Watchdog now.
Maybe unlock the bootloader and flash a custom rom?
Go into account and sync and shut off background data. I was getting. 10-12 hours battery life and now over 30 by just doing that. Worked for a buddy at work too.
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Radio is key. After I flashed radio 1.77.30p, my phone can easily using 3 days without freeze anything.
Do not use 1.97 radio and don't use task killers. 2.3.4 gingerbread does a much better job of killing tasks than Froyo did and it's unnecessary. Also, turning off background data is not necessary.
Phalanx7621 said:
Do not use 1.97 radio and don't use task killers. 2.3.4 gingerbread does a much better job of killing tasks than Froyo did and it's unnecessary. Also, turning off background data is not necessary.
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I would say it is. Apps including google will try and update and locate your phone via 3g and gps when its sitting there idle. Its not necessary if you only install apps that dont use background data, or disable them individually but some dont allow it.
I still was able to get 15 hours with data enabled and over 30 with it disabled. There is a huge difference there. I just have to open my yahoo now to update it which I dont mind.
While I appreciate everyone's replies and help, has anyone actually looked at the picture I posted?
As much as I am most definitely interested in prolonging my battery life, that picture is showing a sudden drop from 70% to completely dead, idling, screen off, while I'm asleep.
SL1VR said:
While I appreciate everyone's replies and help, has anyone actually looked at the picture I posted?
As much as I am most definitely interested in prolonging my battery life, that picture is showing a sudden drop from 70% to completely dead, idling, screen off, while I'm asleep.
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I would purchase a new battery from Motorola, It looks like your battery has one or more bad cells in it. Only thing that really explains it. Even with everything turned ON as far as data - the battery should not drop that far that fast.
i'm not entirely sure whats going on with the charge level dropping so sharply. Either something is draining your battery big time or the readout when it says 100% is incorrect.
I had issues with the battery up time as well. In my case, the battery wouldnt last more than 8-9 hours. I had to charge it two times a day. Once overnight so its 100% when i go to work and again as soon as i get home. If i charged to 100%, unplugged and went to bed, it would be at 15-20% when i woke up.
The last time i went abroad, i left the radio turned off completely. I noticed that the battery held its charge for about a day and a half.
Now i did root, unlock the BL and install CM7 on my phone. It seemed better but not that much. After i setup the phone to NOT use my 3G data connection while my wifi was on, i noticed that i was getting great battery life when i was at home but still rubbish at work.
I'm doing a test right now to see if this makes a difference or not. I have turned off data on my phone all together this morning. I charged it to 100%. Normally after 6 hours at work, my phone is at about 30-35%
Right now its sitting at 75%
the 3g is whats killing the battery, on my phone anyway. I will see how long the battery lasts without turning on my data at all. Then i will compare that with how its like with background data turned off.
I would suggest you try re-calibrating your phone's battery, i use battery calibration from the market. Then either turn data off altogether like i have or just turn background data off as the others have suggested and see what kind of a difference it makes.
While i realize you dont want to, it may help further to have a ROM like CM7 installed as it wont have all the bloatware that can further reduce the performance of your phone. You should definitely give turning the data off a go to see its the culprit before you go spend money on a new battery which may or may not fix the problem.
Best to isolate the root cause before you spend money on fixing it. If turning off the data doesnt do it, then you very well may have a battery problem.
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i'm not entirely sure whats going on with the charge level dropping so sharply. Either something is draining your battery big time or the readout when it says 100% is incorrect.
I had issues with the battery up time as well. In my case, the battery wouldnt last more than 8-9 hours. I had to charge it two times a day. Once overnight so its 100% when i go to work and again as soon as i get home. If i charged to 100%, unplugged and went to bed, it would be at 15-20% when i woke up.
The last time i went abroad, i left the radio turned off completely. I noticed that the battery held its charge for about a day and a half.
Now i did root, unlock the BL and install CM7 on my phone. It seemed better but not that much. After i setup the phone to NOT use my 3G data connection while my wifi was on, i noticed that i was getting great battery life when i was at home but still rubbish at work.
I'm doing a test right now to see if this makes a difference or not. I have turned off data on my phone all together this morning. I charged it to 100%. Normally after 6 hours at work, my phone is at about 30-35%
Right now its sitting at 75%
the 3g is whats killing the battery, on my phone anyway. I will see how long the battery lasts without turning on my data at all. Then i will compare that with how its like with background data turned off.
I would suggest you try re-calibrating your phone's battery, i use battery calibration from the market. Then either turn data off altogether like i have or just turn background data off as the others have suggested and see what kind of a difference it makes.
While i realize you dont want to, it may help further to have a ROM like CM7 installed as it wont have all the bloatware that can further reduce the performance of your phone. You should definitely give turning the data off a go to see its the culprit before you go spend money on a new battery which may or may not fix the problem.
Best to isolate the root cause before you spend money on fixing it. If turning off the data doesnt do it, then you very well may have a battery problem.
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I'll definitely try everything you've mentioned, I did calibrate my battery since I first started this topic. I'm not sure if there's a difference, if there is, it isn't noticeable. My phone died last night, and I charged it overnight again so I haven't had a chance to see if what happened the other night will happen again. Soon enough, I'll post details if I notice anything peculiar.
Since you said you bought the phone off a friend I would like to make sure you have the right battery.
The battery "must" be of the following to show the right charge level, otherwise it might appear the battery discharging very quickly.
The part/model no.: SNN5893A
Manufacturing Date: ??/April/2011 or onwards
In regards to the poster above who mentioned shutting off background data, my phone lasts 17-19 hours running CM7 with nothing frozen, background data on, and I record quite a bit of video + pictures every day. I don't use task killers either. So I'm thinking that maybe the background data thing is either actually covering up a radio problem, a carrier issue, previous ROM information leaking through, or a faulty battery as stated above that could possibly need replaced.
**Update** See new note added 2/16/13 at bottom!
Trying to provide a single informational resource on three, typically related issues:
1. My N7 turns off randomly
2. My N7 dies early at ___% battery (you fill in the value)
3. My N7 turned itself off, and won't turn back on
There’s a ton of threads all over the net regarding these issues, some providing unintentionally misleading info, some progress towards actually defining the issue and posing possible solutions. Reports of these issues started back when the N7 was first released and continue to this day. These issues have been reported to Google, but who knows whether or not the Google God will attend to them anytime soon.
What follows is what I’ve learned about these issues, how they affected most users, and how they were resolved for most users. This is not intended to capture every possible exception.
Issue #1:
For some users, their N7 just turns off randomly, regardless of battery level. For them, a loose battery connector is typically the cause. Popping off the back cover, re-seating the connector and possibly putting a tiny piece of tape to keep it secured over time is the fix.
Issue #2:
Many users notice that their N7’s turn off by itself, typically when the battery is at the lower-end of the % scale – anywhere from 40% down to 20% or so. Most users think that their N7 is running out of power "early" – but it seems that the 40% - 20% indication is erroneous - the battery is really at 0%, and is turning off as it should. This appears to be the caused by a software glitch that Google has to address. Doing a Factory Reset and a battery pull appears to remedy this issue for just about everyone. Please note that a corollary to this issue is the observation that once charged, the N7 remains at 100% far longer than it should.
Issue #3:
Taken out of context, having an N7 that won’t start seems like a terrible thing. But in most cases, it’s caused by Issues #1 and #2.
- If Issue #1 caused it: reconnect the loose cable, recharge your battery if needed, and you are good-to-go.
- If #2 caused it, your N7 battery is dead. Plug your N7 into the original power supply, patiently wait a few minutes then patiently hold down the power button up to 30 seconds (actually look at your watch – it’s gotta be “up to 30 seconds”!), for just about everyone reporting, it’ll start up just fine.
- If both of these methods don't work, try powering-down via the bootloader: plug your N7 into the charger, press Volume-Down and Power at the same time, in the bootloader choose "Power-Off Device", unplug your N7 and plug it back in. Do you see the battery meter? If so, you're done.
- While the original power supply should be the best to use in these troubleshooting procedures, if you are not getting a resolution of this issue, some N7 owners have had success with power supplied by USB via PC. Give it a try.
Since these problems are widespread, there are a number of “fixes” offered other than those above, that are somewhat anecdotal – they only “work” in one/couple instances and therefore there’s no real evidence that they are relevant. This group includes:
- Using battery calibration apps to fix the problem
- Dumping battery stats
- Uninstalling a specific " troublesome" app
Some users send their N7’s back to Google, and their new N7’s are deemed "fine". A number of knowledgeable users have speculated that most of these N7’s sent back really only suffered from the fixable issues listed above. To support this notion, some have reported that the replacements have the same “defects” as their first units, and they continue to send them back.
My experience:
My N7 worked perfectly for the first two weeks of ownership. Then it started turning off at 30% and 23%. I also noted that once I charged-up, my N7 would stay at 100% forever, leading me to believe that the battery readings were hosed-up. After these problems started, it would not go below the 30%-20% thresholds. The first time I tried to power it up - it wouldn't - and I thought is had totally borked. I tried eventually figured out that I needed to add power, wait, then hold down the power button. Worked every time.
For me, I wanted to know if I had a loose battery connector - a common problem, even though my N7 was not shutting down randomly, it was always at low battery levels. I figured that I'd just do the two things that research showed would work for sure, and would cover two different issues. I popped the back off, found that the connector as well-seated, but I pulled it off anyway to do the "battery pull". I reconnected and added a bit of electrical tape to keep it secured. I then did a Factory Reset using the option under "Settings/Backup and Reset". My N7 has been absolutely PERFECT since - just as most users report.
There is still the apparent issue of Google fixing the issue that causes the battery indication to be inaccurate.
I hope that this post serves to help others that experience these issues.
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Update 2/16/13
I noticed in the past 2 days that my N7 started staying on 100% for prolonged periods of time. I figured that it once again lost it's ability to provide accurate battery status. Therefore, I projected that when it gets down to 30% or so, it'll turn off. It did.
I did the fixes I outlined in the OP and this time they didn't work. After pulling the battery and doing a factory reset, it still indicated 30% battery left - and I KNOW it's really at/near 0%.
I've been monitoring this issue since I made this thread and I've noticed that a growing number of N7 users were fixing this issue by simply turning off their N7's for a period of time. So I gave that a go.
I plugged my N7 in for about 20 minutes to give it the juice it would need to restart after the period of time being turned off. Then, I unplugged it and turned it off. Waited an hour, and when I restarted it, the battery had been recalibrated to 0%. Awesome!
So where does this leave us? Here are my thoughts:
- Since there are a number of different causes that result in the symptoms listed in the OP, those fixes are still relevant for those specific causes.
- We should add this latest fix to the collection, as it worked perfectly for me today.
- It's possible that our N7's should be periodically turned off - possibly overnight as it charges. I know that I plan to occasionally do this. If you don't have a disconnected/loose battery cable, or some issue with software that is remedied by a Factory Reset, maybe your N7 just needs to be turned off to recalibrate every now and then. Update: As of 5/3013, my N7 has been flawless. It's entirely possible that this is because I shut-down my N7 every week or two to recalibrate.
As always, I hope this keeps N7 users from freaking out, or sending their N7's back - unless it's really necessary.
And as I said in the OP, Google really needs to address this, as there's plenty of evidence that many N7 owners experience these issues. I'll update my report to Google.
Stock 4.1 upgraded to 4.2.1
No Root/unlock
Software or Hardware? Who know's..
I received my N7 on dec 20th 2012, still haven;t gotten to use it more than a day or 2... had battery issues off the hope, shut of at 21% ish... tried turning it on... just got screen flickering. Tried chargin it for hours, still nothing... after submitting an RMA after a couple days of charging with device on or off or with screen flickering ,,,nothing worked. Hung up with support... tried with USB connected to PC... got the device to boot.
I also in between random variations of cables and what not I did the D/C on battery ... didn't do much for me.
Charged device to 100% used down to 60% charged to 75%
Used again for 5 minutes
Device turned off.
Wouldn't boot
Another day of messing around... got it to turn on
Booted, battery was at 0% said it was shutting down
Tried a few more times (without charging) Just shut down cause battery was at 0%
Tried again, Booted said battery was at 85%
Light Use
Plugged in to charge, got home from work next day, device won't turn on
Been 3 days
New device form RMA gets in today.
If it comes with 4.1 I am going to run it for a few days because when i received my first device, it seemed to be working fine for the first 2 hours... got my device setup then decided to do the update to 4.2.1
Immediately my device shut down and gave me a screen flickering issue... did hard reset (held power for like 10 sec) device turned on... then experienced all the crap above.
So if i update after a couple days... and then run into issues... it would tell myself that there could be an issue with the update... but who knows as all the reading I have been doing, every scenario is different.
Google told me to submit a second RMA if it continues.... I'd rather not have the device if I just have to keep returning it.
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Stock 4.1 upgraded to 4.2.1
No Root/unlock
Software or Hardware? Who know's..
I received my N7 on dec 20th 2012, still haven;t gotten to use it more than a day or 2... had battery issues off the hope, shut of at 21% ish... tried turning it on... just got screen flickering. Tried chargin it for hours, still nothing... after submitting an RMA after a couple days of charging with device on or off or with screen flickering ,,,nothing worked. Hung up with support... tried with USB connected to PC... got the device to boot.
I also in between random variations of cables and what not I did the D/C on battery ... didn't do much for me.
Charged device to 100% used down to 60% charged to 75%
Used again for 5 minutes
Device turned off.
Wouldn't boot
Another day of messing around... got it to turn on
Booted, battery was at 0% said it was shutting down
Tried a few more times (without charging) Just shut down cause battery was at 0%
Tried again, Booted said battery was at 85%
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Plugged in to charge, got home from work next day, device won't turn on
Been 3 days
New device form RMA gets in today.
If it comes with 4.1 I am going to run it for a few days because when i received my first device, it seemed to be working fine for the first 2 hours... got my device setup then decided to do the update to 4.2.1
Immediately my device shut down and gave me a screen flickering issue... did hard reset (held power for like 10 sec) device turned on... then experienced all the crap above.
So if i update after a couple days... and then run into issues... it would tell myself that there could be an issue with the update... but who knows as all the reading I have been doing, every scenario is different.
Google told me to submit a second RMA if it continues.... I'd rather not have the device if I just have to keep returning it.
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Sorry to hear of this.
Not sure that I read that you did the Factory Reset, as suggested in the OP.
Give that a try.
Pulling the battery and/or doing a full Factory Reset is the fix for the vast majority of N7 users.
You may be an exception to that. Hope not.
Ya I have done the factory reset and battery pull, after the reset it just reset to 4.2.1 it came with 4.1.
Then it shut down on me again, I have my new unit it now. Running solid so far, good battery charge... not taking forever. hasn't shut down yet.
I'm going to run it on 4.1 for a day or 2 then update. Hopefully I don't run into issue after the update... it was probably coincidence but i ran into problems after updating on my first N7 to 4.2.1
Well, then unlike many other N7 owners, since you did both the battery pull and Factory Reset, you can rest assured that you didn't waste your time sending your N7 back - it needed replacement.
Good luck with it!
Just reporting back with a status. The fixes I described above seem to be working perfectly for days now. Check my OP and give those recommendations a shot if you're having any issues. Hope this helps to simplify a potentially confusing landscape and to resolve these issues for other N7 owners.
Two of the ”fixes” that folks anecdotally reported... using a battery calibration app and clearing battery stats are 100% guaranteed not to work. Those who actually ascribe any effect to them are merely using faulty reasoning. Quite simply, the calibration apps are just another method of wiping battery stats. Nothing at all in batterystats.bin has any bearing on battery life or reported charge indication.
This isn't directed at anyone in particular. Rather, I'm just expounding on something from the OP.
Definitely a very useful thread, given what seems to be a not too uncommon issue. As an aside, I've also experienced the problem after flashing a new kernel. Reflashing the previous kernel corrected the issue.
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Two of the ”fixes” that folks anecdotally reported... using a battery calibration app and clearing battery stats are 100% guaranteed not to work. Those who actually ascribe any effect to them are merely using faulty reasoning. Quite simply, the calibration apps are just another method of wiping battery stats. Nothing at all in batterystats.bin has any bearing on battery life or reported charge indication.
This isn't directed at anyone in particular. Rather, I'm just expounding on something from the OP.
Definitely a very useful thread, given what seems to be a not too uncommon issue. As an aside, I've also experienced the problem after flashing a new kernel. Reflashing the previous kernel corrected the issue.
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najaboy:
Excellent background on those two "fixes", and I agree 100%.
In creating this thread, I didn't want to really slam-dunk any of the "fixes" that other people have offered in other threads. But the research shows that you are exactly right: calibration apps and wiping battery stats will do absolutely nothing - guaranteed.
It's amazing how many misleading threads I had to wade-through to get to the fixes I recommend. No wonder so many people have returned their N7's to get one that "doesn't have the issues".
Crisis averted
billykxda said:
Trying to provide a single informational resource on three, typically related issues:
1. My N7 turns off randomly
2. My N7 dies early at ___% battery (you fill in the value)
3. My N7 turned itself off, and won't turn back on
There’s a ton of threads all over the net regarding these issues, some providing unintentionally misleading info, some progress towards actually defining the issue and posing possible solutions. Reports of these issues started back when the N7 was first released and continue to this day. These issues have been reported to Google, but who knows whether or not the Google God will attend to them anytime soon.
What follows is what I’ve learned about these issues, how they affected most users, and how they were resolved for most users. This is not intended to capture every possible exception.
Issue #1:
For some users, their N7 just turns off randomly, regardless of battery level. For them, a loose battery connector is typically the cause. Popping off the back cover, re-seating the connector and possibly putting a tiny piece of tape to keep it secured over time is the fix.
Issue #2:
Many users notice that their N7’s turn off by itself, typically when the battery is at the lower-end of the % scale – anywhere from 40% down to 20% or so. Most users think that their N7 is running out of power "early" – but it seems that the 40% - 20% indication is erroneous - the battery is really at 0%, and is turning off as it should. This appears to be the caused by a software glitch that Google has to address. Doing a Factory Reset and a battery pull appears to remedy this issue for just about everyone. Please note that a corollary to this issue is the observation that once charged, the N7 remains at 100% far longer than it should.
Issue #3:
Taken out of context, having an N7 that won’t start seems like a terrible thing. But in most cases, it’s caused by Issues #1 and #2.
- If Issue #1 caused it: reconnect the loose cable, recharge your battery if needed, and you are good-to-go.
- If #2 caused it, your N7 battery is dead. Plug your N7 into the original power supply, patiently wait a few minutes then patiently hold down the power button up to 30 seconds (actually look at your watch – it’s gotta be “up to 30 seconds”!), for just about everyone reporting, it’ll start up just fine.
Since these problems are widespread, there are a number of “fixes” offered other than those above, that are somewhat anecdotal – they only “work” in one/couple instances and therefore there’s no real evidence that they are relevant. This group includes:
- Using battery calibration apps to fix the problem
- Dumping battery stats
- Uninstalling a specific " troublesome" app
Some users send their N7’s back to Google, and their new N7’s are deemed "fine". A number of knowledgeable users have speculated that most of these N7’s sent back really only suffered from the fixable issues listed above. To support this notion, some have reported that the replacements have the same “defects” as their first units, and they continue to send them back.
My experience:
My N7 worked perfectly for the first two weeks of ownership. Then it started turning off at 30% and 23%. I also noted that once I charged-up, my N7 would stay at 100% forever, leading me to believe that the battery readings were hosed-up. After these problems started, it would not go below the 30%-20% thresholds. The first time I tried to power it up - it wouldn't - and I thought is had totally borked. I tried eventually figured out that I needed to add power, wait, then hold down the power button. Worked every time.
For me, I wanted to know if I had a loose battery connector - a common problem, even though my N7 was not shutting down randomly, it was always at low battery levels. I figured that I'd just do the two things that research showed would work for sure, and would cover two different issues. I popped the back off, found that the connector as well-seated, but I pulled it off anyway to do the "battery pull". I reconnected and added a bit of electrical tape to keep it secured. I then did a Factory Reset using the option under "Settings/Backup and Reset". My N7 has been absolutely PERFECT since - just as most users report.
There is still the apparent issue of Google fixing the issue that causes the battery indication to be inaccurate.
I hope that this post serves to help others that experience these issues.
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Brand new Nexus 7 purchased today, came with 4.1 and I applied 4.2.1. Difficulties getting it powered on in the first place and lots of reboots and apparent crashes. Factory reset once and found some of those other threads you mentioned, disabled location services and that seemed to help a bit but still getting reboots. More digging and I found your post. Took your advice and pulled off the back of the Nexus 7, pulled the battery up and the connector basically fell out, it obviously wasn't seeded properly. Popped it back in properly and it's working much better now, although I'm going to give it 24 hours to make sure my issues are resolved. I just created an account in here to thank you. Think I'll stick around and see what else I can learn.
got my nexus 7 at September 2012,
got no problem with the abttery at the first charge,
but few weeks later, the battery started to die at 20% , then died at 30%, i didnt notice until i saw the battery history, it just jumped from 30% to 0%,
keep in mind that i'm not using the asus standard charger (dont know if this affect us)
tried charging it with the original charger, look like the problem is fixed, the battery died at 5%.
not sure if this is a coincidence or not
sorry for the bad English
Hazmatilda said:
Brand new Nexus 7 purchased today, came with 4.1 and I applied 4.2.1. Difficulties getting it powered on in the first place and lots of reboots and apparent crashes. Factory reset once and found some of those other threads you mentioned, disabled location services and that seemed to help a bit but still getting reboots. More digging and I found your post. Took your advice and pulled off the back of the Nexus 7, pulled the battery up and the connector basically fell out, it obviously wasn't seeded properly. Popped it back in properly and it's working much better now, although I'm going to give it 24 hours to make sure my issues are resolved. I just created an account in here to thank you. Think I'll stick around and see what else I can learn.
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Congrats!
Go enjoy your new N7!
webslasher said:
got my nexus 7 at September 2012,
got no problem with the abttery at the first charge,
but few weeks later, the battery started to die at 20% , then died at 30%, i didnt notice until i saw the battery history, it just jumped from 30% to 0%,
keep in mind that i'm not using the asus standard charger (dont know if this affect us)
tried charging it with the original charger, look like the problem is fixed, the battery died at 5%.
not sure if this is a coincidence or not
sorry for the bad English
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Have you tried the recommendations in the op?
billykxda said:
Have you tried the recommendations in the op?
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I guess you solved your issue?
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I did have issue #2. I already had fully charged over night. Battery indicator showed 100% for a while, so I figured the problem wasn't solved. What I did was shut down my N7, then hook it up to the charger, boot my N7, unhooked it from charger, played 1 level in Amazing Alex and checked battery indicator again: 99%. I hope this means I solved the problem for now
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Fotogravin said:
I did have issue #2. I already had fully charged over night. Battery indicator showed 100% for a while, so I figured the problem wasn't solved. What I did was shut down my N7, then hook it up to the charger, boot my N7, unhooked it from charger, played 1 level in Amazing Alex and checked battery indicator again: 99%. I hope this means I solved the problem for now
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Interesting. There have been reports of people addressing this problem by just turning off their N7 for a while, booting back up and all is well. Others like you added the plug/unplug charger to the mix and that seemed to work for them.
This issue has been reported to Google as well - there is a thread on Googles defect site that also lists all sorts of "fixes" that people have attributed to this issue.
Still, the only highly-repeatable fixes I've seen in various threads/forums are in the OP. But, who knows? If you can get your N7 past these issues, it's a good thing!
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Hi, you can add me to the list. My N7 often turn off itself when battery level is under 50%. I have tried everything (factory reset, flash stock image...) but problem still persists.
So i have a N7 with half battery capacity most of the time. I hope next update will fix it otherwise i'll send it to Asus.
Edit: mine just switch off at nearly 25%, i'll try to downgrade to 4.1.2 and see if it helps...
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roswell782 said:
Hi, you can add me to the list. My N7 often turn off itself when battery level is under 50%. I have tried everything (factory reset, flash stock image...) but problem still persists.
So i have a N7 with half battery capacity most of the time. I hope next update will fix it otherwise i'll send it to Asus.
Edit: mine just switch off at nearly 25%, i'll try to downgrade to 4.1.2 and see if it helps...
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Hi!
Did you try all of the suggestions in the OP?
-bk
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Hi, i didn't open the battery cover because i don't want to lose my warranty, i prefer to let Asus do it for me.
My history with Asus is finished, bought 3 products from them, 3 have problems...
Btw: of course downgrade to 4.1.2 did nothing
Thanks for your answer and have a good weekend.
Cheers, Ros.
Edit: RMA asked, hope Asus will fix it.
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My N7 is driving me crazy. Bought it last year around October, and it seemed fine at first. Battery would die at around 4-5% which is acceptable. Then it started getting worse over time. At this time it was completely stock - locked and not rooted. It got to the point where it would shut itself off when it reached 40%, so I decided to factory reset, pull battery, unlock, root and install Paranoid Android, hoping this would solve (or help) the issue.
Did all my unlocking and rooting last night, installed PA, set everything up, then started reading on my N7. Device turned off at 65% now. To say that I'm disappointed is an understatement. I'm all out of ideas on what I can do to fix this thing. I charged it overnight and disconnected it from the charger 3 hours ago, and it's still at 100%, even though I've used it quite a bit. Infuriating.
ynrozturk said:
My N7 is driving me crazy. Bought it last year around October, and it seemed fine at first. Battery would die at around 4-5% which is acceptable. Then it started getting worse over time. At this time it was completely stock - locked and not rooted. It got to the point where it would shut itself off when it reached 40%, so I decided to factory reset, pull battery, unlock, root and install Paranoid Android, hoping this would solve (or help) the issue.
Did all my unlocking and rooting last night, installed PA, set everything up, then started reading on my N7. Device turned off at 65% now. To say that I'm disappointed is an understatement. I'm all out of ideas on what I can do to fix this thing. I charged it overnight and disconnected it from the charger 3 hours ago, and it's still at 100%, even though I've used it quite a bit. Infuriating.
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Sorry to hear this. This is what I'd recommend...
Take the N7 back to bone stock to reduce the number of variables. Follow my suggestions in the OP (I know you've already done them - but I'd still "do the drill" again). If this doesn't work, you can try some of the outlier suggestions that others have made that are less substantiated - why not at that point? If it's still a no-go, I'd return it. For your money, you deserve a perfect N7.
Hi
I have recently started having a problem with what I presume to be the battery of my Nexus 4. It seems to have started suddenly about a week ago, though was working absolutely fine before. I don't think it was due to any specific app having been installed. I have also done a factory reset on it, but that didn't solve the problem.
Basically, the battery will discharge to about 75%. The phone will then suddenly switch off; turning the phone back on, it simply shows the battery to be fully depleted and switches off. If I plug it into a power source, the phone turns back on and begins charging, from 0%, though seems to suddenly fully charge it within about half an hour.
My phone has not been rooted.
I would really appreciate any help/advice on this issue as it is incredibly frustrating having to have my phone almost permanently on charge.
I have attached two screenshots of the battery usage graph.
Thanks!
bab88 said:
Hi
I have recently started having a problem with what I presume to be the battery of my Nexus 4. It seems to have started suddenly about a week ago, though was working absolutely fine before. I don't think it was due to any specific app having been installed. I have also done a factory reset on it, but that didn't solve the problem.
Basically, the battery will discharge to about 75%. The phone will then suddenly switch off; turning the phone back on, it simply shows the battery to be fully depleted and switches off. If I plug it into a power source, the phone turns back on and begins charging, from 0%, though seems to suddenly fully charge it within about half an hour.
My phone has not been rooted.
I would really appreciate any help/advice on this issue as it is incredibly frustrating having to have my phone almost permanently on charge.
I have attached two screenshots of the battery usage graph.
Thanks!
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If you are on stock, try flashing the stock image(4.2 or 4.3 up to you) there's plenty of threads on here thatll guide you thro the process.
I've had the same issue about three times, during the first week of using my Nexus 4 (about half a year ago). I've already had my mind made up to RMA it, but waited for it's shut-off to happen once more to collect some evidence of this problem and... it never happened again. I'm pretty confident that I didn't install anything that might have helped (I only installed BetterBatteryStats to check the instant drain, but really doubt it could change anything, it's just statistics), and I've never factory wiped the phone's data yet.
I've been searching for answers around the internet back in May, but never found anything of value, so my only advice is... wait a little, and if it doesn't get better itself return it to the merchant. My previous HTC phone was restarting almost everyday from the first day I bought it, until a month later I returned it for warranty repairs and after they changed almost all internals of the phone it never crashed again (till today, since I still use it as GPS and media player when running).