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question rooting and at&t warranty

Did anyone get the extra 9.99 warranty? I purchased it and I'm thinking about rooting. Since I never rooted in the past, am I missing out on anything special? I'm not into the custom roms, I like the Samsung rom. Reason I'm asking is I postponed the most recent update.

kipliq said:
Did anyone get the extra 9.99 warranty? I purchased it and I'm thinking about rooting. Since I never rooted in the past, am I missing out on anything special? I'm not into the custom roms, I like the Samsung rom. Reason I'm asking is I postponed the most recent update.
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I'm not sure what your question is. Is it about rooting? (there are guides in the "general" section that you can follow). Are you just wondering about who bought a warranty? (I have Square trade). Or, are you wondering if rooting voids the warranty? (In most cases, yes, but certain warranties allow for it, you have to ask or read the fine print).

scott14719 said:
I'm not sure what your question is. Is it about rooting? (there are guides in the "general" section that you can follow). Are you just wondering about who bought a warranty? (I have Square trade). Or, are you wondering if rooting voids the warranty? (In most cases, yes, but certain warranties allow for it, you have to ask or read the fine print).
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I'm just scared to root since I purchased the att warranty. I check on Square trade warranty. Is the att warranty any good or am I throwing my money away.

kipliq said:
I'm just scared to root since I purchased the att warranty. I check on Square trade warranty. Is the att warranty any good or am I throwing my money away.
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I have read about people using the AT&T warranty OK, I guess it just comes down to preference. Read about each warranty and decide which one better fits your needs.
As far as rooting goes, read the guide(s) posted and decide if it is for you. There are ways to unroot if needed or you can always use ODIN to restore to stock firmware. Read about some of these topics and options and you will be able to make a better decision about what you want to do. Good luck.

Man, I am always bringing up the rear. Always late to the party.
I know att will void the warranty if it is rooted, had a friend go thru exactly that.
I think it depends on what rep you get at att.

The reason I'm thinking of rooting is to use about 3 apps, one is titanium backup and the other is floating apps i think it is called and last is what apps I can use in dual screen mode. The At&t deductible is $199 omg that is the price of the phone
Not sure if all the trouble is worth rooting.

kipliq said:
The reason I'm thinking of rooting is to use about 3 apps, one is titanium backup and the other is floating apps i think it is called and last is what apps I can use in dual screen mode. The At&t deductible is $199 omg that is the price of the phone
Not sure if all the trouble is worth rooting.
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Sure, go for it. If you need to warranty it, you can unroot. Just make sure you do a lot of reading and get everything together before hand...that will make everything a lot easier. Go check Square trade out...it might be a better option for you.

Root or waiting to knox fix?

With the new bootloader Samsung seems to have made the root impossible without leave a trace.
After the root we will have knox 0x1 in the bootloader and no chance to reset it to 0x0.
So...
What do you recommend?
Wait for someone to be able to find a solution or root the phone anyway and hoping we can reset the knox later?

kenzolo said:
With the new bootloader Samsung seems to have made the root impossible without leave a trace.
After the root we will have knox 0x1 in the bootloader and no chance to reset it to 0x0.
So...
What do you recommend?
Wait for someone to be able to find a solution or root the phone anyway and hoping we can reset the knox later?
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Lucky for me, I'm buying mine at Best Buy and getting the Geeksquad protection plan ($10 per month). If the phone bricks or something, I'll return it to them for an expedited replacement (new) at no additional cost! I hope we get root and custom roms and with the risk of tripping the Knox counter since I could care less! :highfive:

I'm keeping it untouched for the first couple of months. maybe there are some bugs or flaws in the device since it's the 1st production line we got. I want to be sure to have warranty if really needed.

I have everything needed to root already downloaded and ready to go. My Note III will not even boot once before it's rooted!
I'm opening the box and booting straight into the bootloader!

Yup I'm rooting as well I'm insured tho so don't really need to worry as I can get a replacement handset if there are any defects from first line
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Ill just root and mod...could care less about warranty.
sent from Canada via my S3,S4 or Note2

Protect Your Bubble
I have Protetc your bubble insurance on my new baby here in the UK and it protect against 'Accidental Damage
Liquid Damage
Theft
Unauthorised Calls
Breakdown
Worldwide Cover'
So if it doesn't boot I'm okay, but i'm still on the fence with it really.

Got my device today...having itchy fingers ...will root tomorrow!
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i will probably wait a week or so before rooting.
better sooner than later though

Bataga said:
Lucky for me, I'm buying mine at Best Buy and getting the Geeksquad protection plan ($10 per month). If the phone bricks or something, I'll return it to them for an expedited replacement (new) at no additional cost! I hope we get root and custom roms and with the risk of tripping the Knox counter since I could care less! :highfive:
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If I'm not mistaken Best Buy has changed there cell phone policy. Now I believe you have to pay $100 or $150 for insurance replacements just like every other carrier. I asked about it and the employee told me that people were taking advantage so it was changed. Just a heads up for you.

I can't remember the last phone the I actually booted into stock firmware. My first boot is always into the bootloader to flash/root it.

I'd wait. My Note 2 didn't see root for 4 months after purchase. The only reason I did root was to add ViPER.

Waiting here as well.
480dpi is killing me tho

Hi y'all!
Actually I was fairly lucky I didn't root right away. The first device I received turned out to be a dud. It took about a week to be sure but when it started reboot looping i turned it in.
Had it been rooted it might had been made an issue.
When I root it though I'll just kick Knox out. Never had any security issues. In my experience it only takes a little common sense.
Regards
Elo.

From what I understand the same issue with the Knox counter stepping up was not fixed yet on the galaxy S4 though the device was released a couple of month back already, don't know if it's really worth it to wait for a workaround to be found soon!

[Q] Bought a "new" note 3 from ebay...

Supposedly untouched brand new in box "unlocked". When I went to give it the ol rootaroo found the knox at 0x1. So here is my question.
Other than screwing me out of the warranty, what other problems will this cause me?
It's a tmobile. What happens when kit kat comes along, or any other update, am I going to be able to update? As of now, there are no roms, so I am stuck with what samsung sends down the pike and if I cant even get that then what good is the phone. I put in an open case, but if it's not going to screw me up too bad, I might just keep it. However, at 649, for another 50 I can buy one straight from tmobile. Should I return it?
Regards,
J

jackler1 said:
Supposedly untouched brand new in box "unlocked". When I went to give it the ol rootaroo found the knox at 0x1. So here is my question.
Other than screwing me out of the warranty, what other problems will this cause me?
It's a tmobile. What happens when kit kat comes along, or any other update, am I going to be able to update? As of now, there are no roms, so I am stuck with what samsung sends down the pike and if I cant even get that then what good is the phone. I put in an open case, but if it's not going to screw me up too bad, I might just keep it. However, at 649, for another 50 I can buy one straight from tmobile. Should I return it?
Regards,
J
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Aside from the warranty which you have mentioned, Not a lot else except KNOX functions (which unless you use for company purposes is useless to the every day user 99% of the time) -
As for returning it, it's up to you, if you feel you have been tricked into buying a phone with no warranty and mis sold, then return it

It was misrepresented as "new" so you do have an option to return. Hopefully you paid via paypal or a secure way as I wouldn't trust them to return the monies voluntarily.

jackler1 said:
Supposedly untouched brand new in box "unlocked". When I went to give it the ol rootaroo found the knox at 0x1. So here is my question.
Other than screwing me out of the warranty, what other problems will this cause me?
It's a tmobile. What happens when kit kat comes along, or any other update, am I going to be able to update? As of now, there are no roms, so I am stuck with what samsung sends down the pike and if I cant even get that then what good is the phone. I put in an open case, but if it's not going to screw me up too bad, I might just keep it. However, at 649, for another 50 I can buy one straight from tmobile. Should I return it?
Regards,
J
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It is not new. Return.
And don't buy electrical things at eBay unless you want to take risk.

A friend recently bought what was supposed to be a used, unlocked AT&T S3 on Amazon, to use on T-Mobile. When she got it I discovered that it is actually a T-Mobile S3. She had problems getting any data connection on it and after speaking with T-Mobile tech support for a few days they ran her IMEI and said they would honor the warranty, she explained that she bought it from a 3rd party and that they said that it doesn't have a warranty but the tech said not to worry, it is covered by the manufacturer. T-Mobile is currently sending her another S3 at no cost.
Sent from my S3 using whatever is in the chamber...

radicalisto said:
Aside from the warranty which you have mentioned, Not a lot else except KNOX functions (which unless you use for company purposes is useless to the every day user 99% of the time) -
As for returning it, it's up to you, if you feel you have been tricked into buying a phone with no warranty and mis sold, then return it
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So are you saying that should updates come, such as kit kat, I will have no problems getting said updates?
I just want to make sure the phone isn't locked out from updates, won't care if I ever get roms.....

Yeah you'll get updates, if you're rooted you won't get them via OTA though. You'll have to use KIES or flash via ODIN. Not really a massive task tbh
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.... and you'll probably get those updates much faster here on XDA than you will via OTA updates anyway!

is it worth rooting?

I ask this as I'm with EE and i'm not sure there standpoint on the Knox feature and whether my insurance will be void if I do root, reason I've gone F it is one there insurance is excellent, two there is a 6 month period where the phone is still technically theres and the most important reason, is there anything to be gained at this time? I don't see many custom roms at the moment, and few hacks worth persuing, I know we can debloat but it's a very minor detail when all of the above is in the balance.
In addition I've noticed I have Computrace agent running constantly i'm told this is some lowjack for phone theft, but I haven't got the best battery life in the world and i'm wondering if this is the cause, however I don't think I can remove this, if I do what might happen.
So is it worth rooting?

LBTaylor1984 said:
I ask this as I'm with EE and i'm not sure there standpoint on the Knox feature and whether my insurance will be void if I do root, reason I've gone F it is one there insurance is excellent, two there is a 6 month period where the phone is still technically theres and the most important reason, is there anything to be gained at this time? I don't see many custom roms at the moment, and few hacks worth persuing, I know we can debloat but it's a very minor detail when all of the above is in the balance.
In addition I've noticed I have Computrace agent running constantly i'm told this is some lowjack for phone theft, but I haven't got the best battery life in the world and i'm wondering if this is the cause, however I don't think I can remove this, if I do what might happen.
So is it worth rooting?
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Depends why you want to root.. I do it to
- remove annoying ads
- titanium backup
- tasker
- xposed

Hmm currently only the ads.is an issue for me perhaps I should wait til a knox free root is available then

Not sure what you mean by Knox free root, to date no one has been able to root the Note 4 without tripping knox and I don't think it will be possible any time soon

I meant root without tripping.
There is a root for the note 3 and s5 I think which is towel root and that doesn't trip

LBTaylor1984 said:
I meant root without tripping.
There is a root for the note 3 and s5 I think which is towel root and that doesn't trip
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The guy behind towel root now works for samsung so we won't be getting knox free root from him. I'm with ee and have insurance and have rooted. If i need to send it back for repair I just drop it down the toilet first, if they can't switch it on they don't know it's rooted plus insurance is different to warranty

What is warranty then? How have you interpreted it?

LBTaylor1984 said:
What is warranty then? How have you interpreted it?
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AFAIK in Europe due to eu regulations hardware failure is covered under warranty even if you are rooted. That's how I interpret it but as I'm insured my insurance includes accidental loss and damage so if I "accidentally drop it" then my insurance will replace the phone.
If you search xda someone did post the full eu ruling on warranty with rooted devices, reading it will probably help you decide

Thanks sawdoctor, you've been a real help

Selling rooted S7 Edge

For those of you who root your phones, is it ever a problem when you come to sell it? Presumably you have to declare it's been rooted and Knox has been tripped, so things like Samsung Pay won't work.
That's pretty much all that's been holding me back rooting my S7 Edge.

No issues faced ever selling a rooted device here in India. Infact all of my devices are rooted the day they are unboxed

I have faced some issues with the selling of rooted devices
People here (Greece) know about the KNOX counter and they demand a very big discount from the price
I had issues with selling my old S6. I had the ad for 400 euros back then and because it was rooted he asked 250

Android pay will still work if unrooted right?

yes android pay will work.
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What's here to discuss? If you don't disclose the actual state of the good your selling, it's straight up fraud. In this case the missing ability to use Samsung My Knox due to a tripped Knox counter, plus the fact that it voids the warranty. After all, this device is marketed as one that can create secure containers using the My Knox app.
I hate idiots who think they're smart because they scam people. The final straw for me was this incident. Basically, I'm never going to buy a used/second hand device, ever. World is full of d*ckheads.
I've sold many, many rooted devices. I always explicitly told people about their bootloader and warranty state. I always write signed protocols that the buyer was thoroughly informed about the devices condition which s/he also has to read and sign.
Of course I sold those devices to a much lower price, which imho is the correct thing to do when you sell something of non-original, altered condition.

What about chinese phones? Some of them come pre rooted and well. Who knows if the manufacturer gives You warranty.
I've sold a couple of rooted phones but no one really cared about warranty, and I always was able to sell them for nearly full price. I never had a buyer that contacted me after buying the phone and complained. They all seemed happy. Probably because in my country such thing as warranty doesn't exist. Everyone orders replacement parts from the internet or they just buy a new device (mostly a worse one).

Pure luck none of them contacted you. Never had luck. Don't need it. Warranty exists where I live. 1. It'd be dishonest. 2. Don't have time for the headaches when problems occur because I wanted to earn some money in a highly questionable way. 3. I'd hate it if someone sold me a rooted device without telling me.

In Bosnia also nobody cares if the phone is rooted or not, you can tell them, but first most of people do no know what it means. I do not know anybody here who wants to use knox security features, and also here you have warranty just if you buy a new phone, if you buy it used there is no warranty anyway so it really does not matter here.

Unless you live in US and countries that have Android Pay selling rooted phones won't be a problem
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Biggenz said:
For those of you who root your phones, is it ever a problem when you come to sell it? Presumably you have to declare it's been rooted and Knox has been tripped, so things like Samsung Pay won't work.
That's pretty much all that's been holding me back rooting my S7 Edge.
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I sold my first s7 edge rooted on Kijiji. I just wrote that it had been rooted on the ad.
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i'm looking to buy a rooted s7 for verizon..
if anyone has one let me know..