My Note 3 bootloader is MJ7 does updating to MK2 with mobile Odin will trigger knox ?
moom999 said:
My Note 3 bootloader is MJ7 does updating to MK2 with mobile Odin will trigger knox ?
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Mobile odin needs root to begin with. So if you root you most probably gonna trip your knox, so mobile odin is the least of your worries.
antt00 said:
Mobile odin needs root to begin with. So if you root you most probably gonna trip your knox, so mobile odin is the least of your worries.
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It has root and knox 0x0
moom999 said:
It has root and knox 0x0
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Previously how did you get to MJ7 rom with root?
antt00 said:
Previously how did you get to MJ7 rom with root?
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I rooted MI7 using kingo root then OTA until MJ7
moom999 said:
I rooted MI7 using kingo root then OTA until MJ7
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Oh so you have fallen into this category which is a knox walking time bomb. At the moment your knox will not trip. But you are rooted with new bootloader., There is a high chance your knox will trip when you try a factory reset.
As to whether you can safely update with mobile odin pro, this I am not sure. Hope someone else can give you the answer.
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Is it possible to downgrade from MJ7 to MI7 back using odin ? ....mine is unrooted yet
afiqsabri said:
Is it possible to downgrade from MJ7 to MI7 back using odin ? ....mine is unrooted yet
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Nope can't do it anymore
jaythenut said:
Nope can't do it anymore
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then i have to wait for someone introduce root on MJ7 w/o tripping the KNOX with the new bootloader
afiqsabri said:
then i have to wait for someone introduce root on MJ7 w/o tripping the KNOX with the new bootloader
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461929
Have a look here i think they have MJ7 pre rooted stock ROM knox safe
jaythenut said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461929
Have a look here i think they have MJ7 pre rooted stock ROM knox safe
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last two weeks i had my note 3 faulty at volume up button, i did installed with MJ7, went to service centre, volume button changed and downgraded to MI7, i think sc only can do the downgrading then....
jaythenut said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461929
Have a look here i think they have MJ7 pre rooted stock ROM knox safe
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Nope, it will trigger Knox....
any idea how this behaves if you did not upgrade the bootloader files? (update with custom created odin tar)
aka could you downgrade if you still have old (MI7) bootloader?
Hey guys.
I recently got my new Note 3 (N9005, unlocked, no carrier) and upgraded it to the latest MJ7 FW. Now when I started to look for ways to root it, without triggering that KNOX counter, I couldn't find any clear info on it. Is it possible on the latest MJ7? If it is, how? Have anyone tried it?
Oh, just to make it clear - I'm aware of that "Root De La Vega" but first couldn't find working link to the scripts and second I couldn't find any info about whether it triggers the KNOX counter on MJ7 FW?
No that is not possible yet, because you are on the 'new' bootloader now, which prevents the RDLV method. I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox. Sorry man, but for now it's better to wait for some smart developer to come up with a solution...
And going back to older FW is not an option? I mean downloading old FW from sammobile and using Odin dropping this older FW?
stargazer_vit said:
And going back to older FW is not an option? I mean downloading old FW from sammobile and using Odin dropping this older FW?
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Downgrade isn't possible. U'll end up with boot loops if you try.
If u want root without triggering knox, then you'll have to wait until another exploit is found.
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Luycks said:
No that is not possible yet, because you are on the 'new' bootloader now, which prevents the RDLV method. I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox. Sorry man, but for now it's better to wait for some smart developer to come up with a solution...
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I tried kingo and vroot on my Note 3 (SM-9005, Firmware version MJ7). They both failed to root the device. But the KNOX remained 0x00, meaning that the warranty was still valid.
So, what do u mean by ' I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox.' Does it apply to MJ7? Or did someone succeed rooting the Note 3 with Firmware version MJ7 and end with voiding the KNOX warranty (0x01)?
zhengsmall said:
I tried kingo and vroot on my Note 3 (SM-9005, Firmware version MJ7). They both failed to root the device. But the KNOX remained 0x00, meaning that the warranty was still valid.
So, what do u mean by ' I read that also kingo and vroot triggered knox.' Does it apply to MJ7? Or did someone succeed rooting the Note 3 with Firmware version MJ7 and end with voiding the KNOX warranty (0x01)?
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There is NO WAY at the moment to root MJ7 without triggering Knox... Period...
If you needed root you should've rooted it before update to MJ7 and then updated with Mobile ODIN Pro...But that ship hasn't only sailed, its been hit by an iceberg and sunk....
Thx anyway, I have to wait before new approaches are revealed since I'd like to keep the KNOX flag 0x00.
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Nope, you have the patched bootloader.
Useful information:
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/about-cf-auto-root
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog...ox-enabled-devices-and-knox-warranty-void-bit
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/about-root-de-la-vega
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Hi,
I rooted my N9005 on nordic MJ3 using Kingo. Then I upgraded to MJ7 using Mobile Odin to keep root and Knox 0x0. Can I downgrade to MJ3 using Mobile Odin without tripping Knox and keeping my root?
Sartre said:
Hi,
I rooted my N9005 on nordic MJ3 using Kingo. Then I upgraded to MJ7 using Mobile Odin to keep root and Knox 0x0. Can I downgrade to MJ3 using Mobile Odin without tripping Knox and keeping my root?
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No you have MJ7 bootloader already and cannot be downgraded... to any firmware before MJ7. So don't even try to flash in ODIN any earlier build as it will fail and possibly softbrick ur phone.
Mobile Odin does not flash bootloaders to my knowledge, so I should still be on the MJ3-bootloader.
It will not work
You will egt a bootloop as the mj7 bootloader wont accept anything prior to mj7
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Sartre said:
Hi,
I rooted my N9005 on nordic MJ3 using Kingo. Then I upgraded to MJ7 using Mobile Odin to keep root and Knox 0x0. Can I downgrade to MJ3 using Mobile Odin without tripping Knox and keeping my root?
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same here will not work
Thank you for the replies.
According to the application Device info I'm still on The N9005XXUBMJ3-bootloader (see screenshot) so I thought it would be possible, but I won't try if it will just soft-brick mye phone.
Well I was bored and did the downgrade to MJ3 with Mobile Odin since I was sure that it would work because I'm still on the MJ3-bootloader. The only precaution I took was to keep the MJ7-modem, as not to mess up the EFS-folder.
And it worked great! I had to reroot the phone using Kingo, but otherwise everything works as normal and I'm still Knox 0x0. Now I hope that my batterylife gets back to normal again, as it was horrendous on MJ7.
Interesting!
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So it seems that a downgrade with Mobile Odin is possible as long as you're going to the same firmwareversion as your bootloader. I've had some bad experiences with the EFS-folder and downgrading on the Galaxy S3, so I just left the modem untouched.
Sartre said:
Well I was bored and did the downgrade to MJ3 with Mobile Odin since I was sure that it would work because I'm still on the MJ3-bootloader. The only precaution I took was to keep the MJ7-modem, as not to mess up the EFS-folder.
And it worked great! I had to reroot the phone using Kingo, but otherwise everything works as normal and I'm still Knox 0x0. Now I hope that my batterylife gets back to normal again, as it was horrendous on MJ7.
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Thanx for the advice, it worked well! And you're right, you must not downgrade the modem, or you'll end up with softlocks (it happened to me at first downgrade attempt) I used mobile odin to downgrade (and cleared "modem" and "modem #2" entries).
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I am really confused as always I used to find the thread for rooting my SGS4 but with the new firmware upgrade (Russia region), I can not find how to root it, and I am not upgrading it as it is important for me. Specification I am attaching (from similar updraded phone already) .
it should be PDA: I9500XXUFNF4CSC: I9500SERFNE3 MODEM: I9500XXUFNA6 (I can only find with PDA I9500XXUFNB4 in this site).
I would certainly appreciate your guidance in this matter, as only after being sure I had the needed .tar and odin, as I always root it with ODIN being the simplest and safest way, I always upgrade via KIES.
I was directed to post here.
Thank You in advance
Just use the normal rooting.
cf auto root or towelroot.
Firmware doesn't matter.
I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/
towelroot
fcornejo said:
I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/
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I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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Use towelroot if you don't want to lose your warranty (because you will void konx )
Trigger Knos
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply
Warranty
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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I am not so sure about towelroot never used it that is why I am avaoiding, triggering Knox I do not know what it means? Anyway when you root your phone you lose warranty so what difference does it make?
avadis99 said:
Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply
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knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...
Thank you for the explanatiom as such it means it does not harm the phone or prevent future upgrades? If so I prefer to root as I had done before. I have no intention of downgrading but surely would like to continue upgrading. I always use my rooted phone with Knox frozen
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fcornejo said:
knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...
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Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN
avadis99 said:
Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN
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You can check by entering to download mode...
One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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avadis99 said:
One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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It will only affect your ability to downgrade......you won't be able to with official firmware. Upgrading is still possible and the Knox flag being triggered will not affect you upgrading but will never re-set the trigger.
Thank you so much
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Is there a way to root the NF4 firmware?
CF Auto Root
Is it confirmed to be working on NF4? I don't want to trip knox
uf21 said:
Is it confirmed to be working on NF4? I don't want to trip knox
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It will trip knox.