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I'm thinking about buying a tablet and dont really buy into the whole apple thing, so I was wondering if the Archos 101 2.2 16gb was a good product.
What do you guys think. How does it stand on its own and against others like the iPad and the Samsung for example.
Many thanks
I recommend if you can wait for Motorola XOOM. The better choice with Honeycomb already.
Well... they're slightly different.
The archos can do things the ipad can't, like playing most types of video files, connect to TV via HDMI, connect NTFS HDD via USB to it.
It can't do 3G natively, but you can tether to your mobile if you need to browse away from home/WiFi.
So the Archos does most things the iPad can and then many more..., but it can't do the things the iPad can do quite as well. Not badly, just not quite as suave, if you get my gist.
The ipad is smoother to use, the screen is better, but then it costs almost double the money of the Archos.
So from where I stand, I prefer the Archos for it's flexibility and price wise, I'd rather have 2 Archos than 1 iPad.
The xoom looks good, especially with A3.0....
Is the Archos flashable to 3.0 or will it only run on 2.2?
I do think at half the price the Archos is good value for money, especially if you think about where the amrket is right now.....
choices, choices....
Xoom looks nice indeed, but with dual core, more RAM, etc... it'll cost you what the iPad costs.
Am I correct in that the archos has an ARM Cortex A8 at 1 GHz with DSP? I can't seem to find out how much RAM it has. It doesnt seem to say on their site. Has anyone had any experience of successfully overclocking this processor and to what stable speeds?
Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897877
there will be much better tablets available in the next few months, but right now
I think the 101 is the best value for money 10" android tablet you can buy.
I have had mine since dec 16th and cant fault it. (the screen isnt brilliant when it comes to viewing angles, but is crisp and bright).
The battery lasts me 2 days on moderate use.
It connects easily to my wifi and can see all my networked media via upnp.
I can output to a tv or monitor by hdmi.
I can play every format of video file I have.
It runs smoothly and without crashes now that I have the latest firmware and Zeam launcher.
It uses the wifi hotspot from my HTC Desire.
I can use a Wii remote to control emulator games on it.
I can read comics and ebooks easily.
I can use a wireless keyboard and mouse.
I think the 101 is great value for money, It may never see android 3.0, but it can do so much right now that that isnt a problem to me.
I'd say get one, you wont regret it.
Where is the primary source for apps - is it Android Market or do you have to go through Archos. If its Archose does it have a good choice?
Is the screen scratch proof or do you need to install screen protectors. If the latter I assume it comes with one in the box?
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1. Is the screen scratch proof or do you need to install screen protectors. If the latter I assume it comes with one in the box?
2. Where is the primary source for apps - is it Android Market or do you have to go through Archos. If its Archose does it have a good choice?
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ad 1.: Screen is quite sturdy but prone to Finger Prints and if you need a Mirror, well, there you are . For these two Reasons alone a non-glare Screen Protector greatly improves the Value of the Archos and I won't ever have a Tablet without it. And no: It's not included out of the Box. If it were I'd expect Archos to apply it first hand.
Viewing Angles improve too, from my Experience.
ad 2.: Out of the Box it's Archos own Applib Store, which fills up every Minute, but not necessarely the Apps you need and if so, mostly older Versions of them. Google Apps are missing too.
For this, some clever Developer packed an Archive and some notes how to install Google Apps including Android Market. This is by far the first Thing you should do after powering on your Device for the first Time. Root is not required for this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867303
What's the best place to get one of these in the UK. I've look at getting one from the US were it seems cheaper but the import costs and duty carges kill it of course.
Cheers
I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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Thank you for that... I had seen Simplyelectronics and was contemplating an order. How do we stand for online orders in terms of cancelling unfulled orders and getting our money returned. Do the credit card companies help you with this one? I'll defnitely check out bestbyuk - many thanks.
Does anyone know if the 101 wil be compatible with A3.0 and if so will Archos be releasing for the 101?
CarsnGadgets said:
I found bestbuyuk very fast and helpful. £310 delivered in less than a week.
dont use simplyelectronics though, they lied to me about stock levels, kept me waiting 3 weeks, took payment from my credit card on the 2nd day and took over a month to refund me when I cancelled the order!
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I had used simplyelectronics also, VERY bad experience. took two weeks to send and they also lied about stock levels to me too :/ customer service was no help either.
I had to involve my credit card protection service in the end before simplyelectronics refunded my money.
I am going to order mine today - not from simplyelectronics !!!
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I am going to order mine today - not from simplyelectronics !!!
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where are you ordering yours from?
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where are you ordering yours from?
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I got it from Insight. £269 inc vat. Next day delivery. Brilliant. Go via telephone order though....
Everyone vote! Tell your friends!
***Since the purpose of the poll is to see who will buy, I am not including the "not sure" option. Please just decide.***
At $800 I still think I'll be picking it up pending a couple of confirmations.
The first being that the HDMI outputs the entire screen like on the Notion Ink Adam, and not like my EVO with only outputting from 2 specific applications.
Second is that they won't require a charge/service to activate WiFi. I have no interest in mobile data. If I need access where I don't usually have it I can tether it to my phone.
I want honeycomb, and I want the higher resolution screen over the Adam, so I'm willing to pay more for them. Until it's released or an official price (rather than a leaked possibly faked/mocked up ad) I'll have to wait and see.
same. my nexus one tethers very well. With unlimited 3g plan from tmobile, im all set on data.
I voted that the Xoom is too expensive for my taste.To be honest, the Toshiba tablet is actually better spec'd than the Xoom. I think I'm going to wait for that one. It's rumored to be $500 wifi only.
I'm getting it regardless. My verizon account is under a military suspension until I re-activate it at no charge, and I currently have a $160 credit on it lol. I just found out, so it's almost like I'm getting it for $640. Hopefully it gets subsidized by vzw for 300, then I can just get it and cancel, then really get it for $650.
I'm not worried about price, it will get worked out... all this talk about the price should show motorola there is a huge consumer demand for their tablet.
I'm a no but with a caveiat. I don't need a 32 gig tablet. If Moto comes out with a 16 gig version that would fall more in line with my price point.
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I'll bite if the price is $700 without this bogus wifi activation fee.
But rather than buying first day, I'm now planning on waiting to see if TMo's G-Slate is any good. I doubt there will be Xoom shortages, so I see no reason to be first-in-line.
Yes. I don't think there'll be any shortages.
Although I can't see LG going significantly (or any) lower than the xoom given its 3d features.
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I'm on board with existing conditions. Notion Ink Adam is still vapor to me. As much as I applaud their David and Goliath struggle that is increasing rare, I must face facts. There is no guarantee that they will be around in 2 years, hell they could be hemorrhaging funds and be under in the next 6 months.
I also don't think the 1.2" smaller screen on the LG G-Slate will make up for the extra 5mp camera, and 120hz capable screen. Plus, who the hell asked for 3D in a tablet. It's as bad as Sprint's stupid kyocera dual screen phone. It's an industry first AND LAST.
Toshiba Tablet seems like a botched job. How does a tablet get a fancy photoshop/flash website before a name . I don't suspect there will be many cheap tablets this year without sacrifices in quality. Example the semi-crappy screen in the Viewsonic G-Tablet I returned.
It's XOOM XOOM XOOM for me. I just hope I can hold back the tears when I charge 963$ for the XOOM and the Folio case.
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I'm a no but with a caveiat. I don't need a 32 gig tablet. If Moto comes out with a 16 gig version that would fall more in line with my price point.
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How much do you think it would drop? I don't think there is much difference between the 16/32gb memory anymore. I highly doubt that the difference is more the $50 and that is probably a high estimate!
16 is standard on almost all new/upcoming devices. I think all the vendors are just depleting their stocks.
I think Toshiba has learned from the Folio 100 tablet disaster, and the will come with a much better product. Not too many companies get a second chance in such a short period of time.
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I'm on board with existing conditions. Notion Ink Adam is still vapor to me. As much as I applaud their David and Goliath struggle that is increasing rare, I must face facts. There is no guarantee that they will be around in 2 years, hell they could be hemorrhaging funds and be under in the next 6 months.
I also don't think the 1.2" smaller screen on the LG G-Slate will make up for the extra 5mp camera, and 120hz capable screen. Plus, who the hell asked for 3D in a tablet. It's as bad as Sprint's stupid kyocera dual screen phone. It's an industry first AND LAST.
Toshiba Tablet seems like a botched job. How does a tablet get a fancy photoshop/flash website before a name . I don't suspect there will be many cheap tablets this year without sacrifices in quality. Example the semi-crappy screen in the Viewsonic G-Tablet I returned.
It's XOOM XOOM XOOM for me. I just hope I can hold back the tears when I charge 963$ for the XOOM and the Folio case.
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One possible issue I have with the G-Slate is lack of an SD card slot. I've been looking at images and reading through descriptions, and not only is there no sign of a slot, but it looks like they're marketing it as a device with 32GB storage... period. Also, I agree that the 3D is pointless and unnecessary, but I'm still willing to give the tablet a fair shake.
If all reports are wrong, and the Xoom is closer to $650, I'll buy it on day one. If it's between $700 and $800, I'm waiting for another month. After all, we know that HTC and Asus are in the mix as well.
I think we need the option of "I will when the price comes down".
I told myself i would cringe and jump for the 700 price point. 800 - that is hard to justify. Yes, people, i know it's comprable to the ipad (with those specs), which is why i bought an iPad off craigslist for under 400 bucks - because it met my price point. I could literally take a weeklong cruise for the same price.
As for the contract - no thanks, this will be on wifi unless I am on a road trip or something. Even then - the Evo does wifi hotspot.
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One possible issue I have with the G-Slate is lack of an SD card slot. I've been looking at images and reading through descriptions, and not only is there no sign of a slot, but it looks like they're marketing it as a device with 32GB storage... period. Also, I agree that the 3D is pointless and unnecessary, but I'm still willing to give the tablet a fair shake.
If all reports are wrong, and the Xoom is closer to $650, I'll buy it on day one. If it's between $700 and $800, I'm waiting for another month. After all, we know that HTC and Asus are in the mix as well.
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Looking around the market, I don't see much room for the XOOM to drop. After owning a Viewsonic G-Tablet, I think I see the shape of 500$ tablets. That tablet was good, except that it skimped on pretty much everything. It had a substandard screen(bad viewing angles), substandard touch sensitivity, a finicky wifi adapter(possibly software), and it seems that they installed the accelerometer wrong. Apps that only ran in portrait were always upside down.
I am not sure, but I think the Toshiba Folio 100 was only marginally less of a train wreck. A $650 XOOM would be fantastic, but maybe impossible. I think the iPad is only as cheap as it is because of some unique and smart investments by Apple, and their extremely iterative process of baby steps forward. This cheapens their process. Also they can, not saying they are, take a loss on the tablet, or use a razer thin profit margin and make it up in apps. Motorola has to make their money on the XOOM itself, Apple can play a different game. Then again there is a company with no buying power, Notion Ink, that confounds me. Perhaps the industry has me brainwashed.
I want to just go to sleep and wake up on the 24th.
DCVIPERBOY. There is no contract. Just Verizon forcing you to pay for one month of service to ensure they make some money on this.
Anyone see the FCC report on engadget? Looks like the wifi version is passing through. Hoping it'll launch the same day as the 3g/4g version. 650 could put moto back in the game.
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If there's a wifi only version of the Xoom I'd really consider it...
I dont need a 3g plan with a tablet - I can use my phone as a hotspot for that if need be.... why would I want to pay twice monthly?
also I'd hope it would be cheaper wifi only ;p
Buying, but waiting for wifi only. Evo with wifi router ftw.
i will be getting it regardless of the price. my wife and i are getting an very good return and we figured that we can spend money on something that we really want but probably wont be able to get later. We agreed we can spoil ourselves with one thing then we will use rest for our move. Im usually not an first adopter but i first time for everything
i originally wanted the metallic grey 32gb version, but at the time of launch.. there were none to be found. a local best buy just got a shipment in today, and at the moment, i have 12gb left in my 16gb. that's without any media. i'm planning on putting at least 5gb of music stored locally, 1gb of photos, no movies, a few documents, and ebooks stored locally. i was gonna rely mostly on cloud storage, but thinking about it now.. i'd like to be able to not worry about when/if i am ever not around wifi access or my phone's hotspot signal is weak. do you think i'd be ok with sticking with the 16gb or should i just make the switch to 32gb now, while i'm still within the return/exchange window?
I'm kinda in the same boat. I don't think I will load up mine with too much because I am more of a streaming kind of person but being wifi only I know I am going to need to get some stuff stored locally for traveling and such.
I got the 16 GB version because I'm using the cloud. As for music, I will most likely place my music on my phone's sdcard. That way I can have my music with me even when I don't have my Tab. 9 times out of 10, if my Tab is near me, my phone is near as well.
i am planning to keep this device for a while, so hence why i'm rethinking about the 32gb for a bit more future proofing. at the moment, it is my only computer at home as well..
damn you samsung for not including a micro sd slot!
what do you guys use for cloud storage? i have amazon set up, but haven't used dropbox or google's.. which one do you guys like and any reason why? i'm looking to store mostly my music in the cloud.. and i already buy all my music on amazon, so i think their cloud service is best for me.
i am exchanging mine from 32 to 16. i have cloud music from google and downloaded the equalizer and they sounded amazing!
I bought a 16GB iPad a year ago and thought, this will be enough space. And it was for a few months. But eventually I did fill it up. It wasn't that I filled it all with music or movies. It was just lots of little things, some music, some movies, lots of apps, some big games, lots of small games, manga books, photos. After months and months of use, all this and that starts adding up.
Sure, I don't have to keep everything on there and did have to start uninstall games, removings apps, deleting movies, to make room for new stuff. And my world didn't end. But still, this time I decided I'd rather have more space so I didn't have to make sacrifices.
Cloud is nice, but not everything is in the cloud yet. And some of the iPad game sizes were getting quite big, I imagine Android games will be getting pretty big too.
i would def take it back for the 32 gb. If your questioning yourself about it than you should do it. And yes, you can when they release it buy the adaptor but its just better to have it all on board if you can imo.
I think the 32gb would also have higher resale value too, if you decide to sell it in the future.
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Why bother, they will have a quad core 1.5 gig with a 3d screen this fall any ways so I dont think the average life span of owning a tablet will last over 6 months. Might as well keep buying the cheaper models since you wont own it long enough to fill up all the disc space...
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i am planning to keep this device for a while, so hence why i'm rethinking about the 32gb for a bit more future proofing. at the moment, it is my only computer at home as well..
damn you samsung for not including a micro sd slot!
what do you guys use for cloud storage? i have amazon set up, but haven't used dropbox or google's.. which one do you guys like and any reason why? i'm looking to store mostly my music in the cloud.. and i already buy all my music on amazon, so i think their cloud service is best for me.
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As for documents I use DropBox, SugarSync, & GoogleDocs.
I like DropBox because I can easily upload files to their server using the mobile app as well as Android's share feature. It also syncs to the DropBox folder on my laptop.
I like SugarSync because it allows me to select any folder on my laptop, phone, & tablet. It will keep those folders in sync. I can only upload a file using the app. There's no option to upload a file using Andriod's share feature.
I use GoogleDocs but not as much, because it's very picky in regards to uploading files. 50% of the time it reject files I'm uploading from my computer. The thing that gets me is that they're all just basic Word & Excel files.
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Why bother, they will have a quad core 1.5 gig with a 3d screen this fall any ways so I dont think the average life span of owning a tablet will last over 6 months. Might as well keep buying the cheaper models since you wont own it long enough to fill up all the disc space...
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I agree. The way their steady upgrading specs and increasing performance for up and coming tablets, the life span of this device will probably be 2-3 years, if that.
If someone plans to use 32 GB, then it may be worth the investment. If someone uses less than 16 GB for a 32 GB model, they've just gave Samsung $100 free money. $100 is half the price of a new netbook, which I still could use because tablets can't do everything.
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Why bother, they will have a quad core 1.5 gig with a 3d screen this fall any ways so I dont think the average life span of owning a tablet will last over 6 months. Might as well keep buying the cheaper models since you wont own it long enough to fill up all the disc space...
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That's like saying: why bother getting a Sandy Bridge computer now when you know Ivy Bridge is around the corner. There's always something better that will come along. You just have to realize when something is right for you at the moment, or else it'll be a never ending cycle and you will never get anything in the end.
Anyway, I did end up exchanging the 16gb for the 32gb, as I do see myself needing the extra storage space in the long run. Thanks everyone for your input!
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/fusion-garage-slashes-200-from-grid-10s-price-tag/
Fusion Garage takes notes from HP's fire sale of the TouchPad and reduces the price of it's upcoming Grid 10 tablet by $200.
There is a new trend in the tablet market, and it is a trend that we are very excited about. There has been a trend of low price tablets coming to the market, and HP’s TouchPad is to thank for it. Fusion Garage is the latest company to follow suit by chopping $200 off the price of its still unreleased tablet the Grid 10. The new price on Fusion Garage’s website has the new base price as a reasonable $299.
When the Grid 10 was announced in a faux press conference, it was announced at an industry standard $499 for a 10-inch tablet. With the good news of the price drop there is of course bad news, the release date has been pushed back from September 16 to October 1. If you purchased Fusion Garage’s original tablet the Joo Joo you will get a Grid 10 for free, so the price drop doesn’t really effect you.
The size and price of the Grid 10 were really the only two similar characteristics with other tablets on the market. Fusion Garage created a new operating system called Grid, which was built from the Android kernel. Technically the Grid 10 is not called an Android tablet, even though it can run Android apps. As the name implies the Grid OS uses a huge grid as the main user interface. You us the grid to organize your applications and folders, and it appears to be a very intuitive system.
As stated earlier we can thank HP for slashing the price of the HP TouchPad to $99, and selling out in less than a day. This business model proved that people are willing to buy a tablet without an Apple logo, if the price is right. Prior to the TouchPad the majority of tablets on the market were content with matching the iPhone $499 price tag. We have recently heard about Amazon’s 7-inch Amazon tablet coming out will be half the price of the iPad, and hopefully we will see more tablets follow suit.
Will this price cut cause more people to buy the Grid 10, or is it just too new and unproven to gain traction no matter the price point?
Is there anything more to this C&P? Are you upset about this price drop??? This is like going to a store looking for toilet paper. After finding the toilet paper is the right section but there was a can of bake beans sitting right next to it.
I'll add: I think these folks are idiots if they dropped the price because of the TouchPad. That fire sale said absolutely NOTHING about how tablets should be priced--any product dropped to 80% of its retail price is bound to sell. If you took a Nook Color that's normally $249 and sold it for $49, it would sell like crazy as well. As maybe a better example, take your typical cheap $150 Android tablet and sell it for $30, and it too would sell out.
Rather, hopefully they're taking their queue from the TF, which has sold very well at $399. The market has made it quite clear that only the iPad can command a $499/$599 price point (bizarrely; it truly is a phenomenon what Apple has accomplished), and so coming in at $299 compared to the lowest-priced Honeycomb tablets makes sense.
I can't wait until the TouchPad fiasco is completely dead and buried. It was completely irrelevant to the rest of the tech market.
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Is there anything more to this C&P? Are you upset about this price drop??? This is like going to a store looking for toilet paper. After finding the toilet paper is the right section but there was a can of bake beans sitting right next to it.
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On the contrary, my feelings are neutral about the price drop. I am however, excited that it is so close to the launch date. I want to be able to play with grid os on my TF.
I would venture to say that the people that bought the HP for $99 are all experimenters and do not plan to use it as an everyday go to tablet. The HP had a unique OS and as such will never have much but the basic built in apps. The average day to day non technical user had no idea that the HP was $99 until after they were gone. Unless you troll the techy boards you would not know. Hell 3 weeks after the fire sale the major office supply stores still had them in their flyers at $499. Sounds like these guys do not have much confidence in their tab.
That tablet looks sick I saw it when it debuted. Anyways android tabs are over priced and no one is reacting to HP, only doing what should have been done from the beginning. The low sales numbers prove it. The problem the Fusion will have is that its not a traditional HC tab even at 300 its going to be difficult to gain traction.
Now if the Xoom would of came in at 350, HC would be going neck n neck with Ipad. A lower price is necessary with ipad 3 around the corner. I bet around Christmas all HC tabs will be reduced by 50-100.
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The boneheads at moto really screwed it up. They managed to make it almost twice as thick and almost twice as heavy while wanting to charge almost twice as expensive as the ipad and ipad 2.
I'm making full use of the TF on an everyday basis (work, fun, show off, etc.) and I only paid 380 for both TF+dock new. I wouldn't have had it any other way. To think they could influence someone like me to spend $800 on the xoom is laughable.
This is a really nice looking device. I actually asked if the interface could be ported to the TF since it's built on top of / runs Android. Probably wouldn't use it as my daily tab, but it would make a hell of a nice quickie tab, especially for the price. Maybe leave it near the couch...(or toilet since I like to read )
Got the "Fusion Garage" Grid10 10/13/2011
After update it became very fast and responcive, side loaded "google maps, Samurai 2, and Netflix", so far "Netflix (tried 7 diffrent APK's) is the only APK the does not work well, it kinda works but the video does not load, also I could not get the the "Android Market" to work tries 2 different APK's. I am thinking I will have to spoof the device ID, using the Astro. They still have a Gmail bug, should be fixed soon, just a token issue.
So that's my 411
how about the amazon app store- does that work.
Also, what is your overall impression of the tablet.....good and bad?
Woohoo!
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Overall all good, but still for advanced users like us, the amazon app works perfect.
I am hoping that FG goes with the icecream sandwich kernel if possible.
After they update the tablet is working extremely well.
7.25 battery life, FG emailed users to state a even better update will arrive the month.
I have "anti" beta and loving that to.
Good for the price, and should get even better.
My friend just alerted to me to one that came in to her goodwill, brand new, for $15.
Is it worth it?
The reviews seemed like it was a moot point for the price.
I also DO have a chromecast already, but that's just for living room use. I'd probably keep the q in my room.
So is it worth it for just $15 or not really?
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My friend just alerted to me to one that came in to her goodwill, brand new, for $15.
Is it worth it?
The reviews seemed like it was a moot point for the price.
I also DO have a chromecast already, but that's just for living room use. I'd probably keep the q in my room.
So is it worth it for just $15 or not really?
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Depends on what you want to do with it...
I have mine set up with CM10.2 and plex installed. Then I can send anything to it from my phone/tablet. I also have a wireless keyboard to control it when I need to.
It's set up in my workshop with a small set of speakers and is perfect for listening to music and controlling it remotely.
You can just thought it as a Galaxy Nexus without screen, and IMO it also worth $15 for a aluminum paper weight.
For fifteen bucks? Hell yeah. Just be prepared to load cyanogen onto a faceless device. I embed up using side load and it was easy. If you put cheap cast onto it then it gets recognized as a chrome cast target. If you don't like it leery me know. I'll pay for shipping